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381  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 10, 2022, 09:35:40 PM
And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right,

Because israelis are "greedy filthy half-humans"? But i had no doubt that every pro-russian scum is also antisemitic garbage.

Your words not mine, and no I don't believe that.  It's absurd.  Indeed, my primary beef against 'the Jews' so-to-speak is a fundamental belief that they are 'chosen'.  This manifests as some truly disturbing and dangerous thought patterns and behaviors often enough.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/YWQgwkBiqDWw/

(Just as a side-note, the above report-ish thing sheds some light on the riddle of how a guy like Zelensky and the Nazi-ish elements of the Ukrainian government and military can get along so swimmingly.  It's probably deeper than simply not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you (e.g., Ukrainian/Israeli oligarch Kolomoiskiy) from both parties mentioned here.)

Some of the most loathsome elements Kabbalistic interpretation seem to be much more broadly disseminated through the Jewish mindset than simply a small set of creepy Rabbis.  Things like sufficiently read-in Jews 'creating worlds by speaking Hebrew'.  i.e., lying out their asses and making up fictional stories about Russian soldiers war crimes.  People who grew up in 'Christian nations' have a hard time getting their minds around such a thing and are thus commonly victimized by such tactics.
 
Israel don't sell any weaponry to anyone if USA forbit this to do. Period. I know this because I'm in fact ukrainian jew and i know about Israel much more than you  Wink

The only channel of technology for russia is China, but here I also doubt. China would not risk (at least for now) to give microelectronic to such sanctioned country. Or price will be like x10-x100 from market. With x100 price you can't build a lot of rockets and missiles tho.

You don't seem to be very high-functioning on the intellectual level and are thus not very representative of the many Jews I know.  Funny enough, I always tended to get along well with and enjoy the company of the Jews I've worked at a higher rate than most others, and I'm sure it had a lot to do with their often adroit minds, willingness to engauge in debate, etc.  To the best of my knowledge, none of the many Jews I have known and considered friends seem to harbor the grotesque ethnic supremacy of the Hasidic groups, but then as far as I know none of them had been brainwashed from an early age in the Yeshiva system.

Anyway, it really doesn't take a lot of people being diabolical scumbags to get shitty things to happen.  It's more about the placement of the tiny minority who are genuine psychopaths.

382  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 10, 2022, 04:57:57 PM

Further, by this time, Russia which has never stopped preparing for self defense, not only knows how to build most of the West's military machinery for itself, also has added war machinery that it has developed, and that is different that that of the other nations.


I think it a fair working model to assume that everything the Americans have, the Israelis have.  And pretty much everything the Israelis have is available to Russia and China if the price is right, or if it serves some other purpose that the Israelis suppose to be useful to them.

383  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 10, 2022, 11:28:32 AM
As for the International Criminal Court, that's bullshit. Russia does not recognize this organization, as well as, for example, the United States.

Most big countries, that can afford to ignore it, do so. So, no trials for Americans, Chinamen, Russians or Indians...and some more

And for smaller fish without the big-player clout, one can get the ICC off one's ass by putting some effort into getting the globalist sponsored de-pop shot into the citizenry's arms so it seems.

384  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 10, 2022, 11:24:17 AM

If said building is in fact non-military, maybe the precision weapons were slightly diverted by Ukrainian EW.

Civilized and responsible countries don't put weapons factories, ammo transit depots, etc, in the middle of large cities so as to avoid situations like this.  IOW, they don't use human shields.
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Meanwhile in Moscow...

Ministry of Defence.

[_img width=400]https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/main-building-of-the-ministry-of-defence-of-the-russian-federation-is-picture-id1065083576[/img]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Building_of_the_Ministry_of_Defense_(Russia)

https://www.google.com/maps/search/russian+barracks+in+moscow/@55.7596161,37.6161838,12.63z

All these are legitimate targets.

Comparing apples to oranges due to your reading difficulties, but...

Legitimate target to drugged up psychopath actors like Xelensky perhaps.  I wouldn't rule out that Russia's MOD headquarters are untouched not because the ZioNazi's are not dumb enough to do it, but more because they don't have the means.

Here's Ukraine's.  Has it been bombed?  If not, why not?  I mean unstoppable Russian hypersonic weapons that can easily destroy city blocks routinely fly practically right over Kiev on their way to mercenary barracks in Lviv so obviously the 'orcs' could easily vaporize the place at will.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_of_Defence_building_(Ukraine)

385  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 09, 2022, 09:02:34 PM
Oh, stop being so silly! Even if the buildings in the pictures are Ukraine buildings, we don't know for a fact that they weren't hit by friendly fire

I heard this explosions and i know for sure that it's not a "friednly fire". Ukraine doesn't have cruise missile and there is any artillery in the city. So yeah, because this building is close to semi-military factory and russians are pretty bad shooters, we have civilian building hit by russian missile.
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If said building is in fact non-military, maybe the precision weapons were slightly diverted by Ukrainian EW.

Civilized and responsible countries don't put weapons factories, ammo transit depots, etc, in the middle of large cities so as to avoid situations like this.  IOW, they don't use human shields.

BTW, why don't you just post a street-view link of the building rather than diddle around with some 'bet' (on nothing of any significance.)  You probably are not sophisticated enough to even know that metadata tags in photos files are trivially manipulated most of the time.  Beyond that, nobody is particularly surprised that a handful of buildings in Kiev did get some damage, and yes, probably even some ones which were collateral damage.

Before sending this note, I wanted to see if streetview actually worked in Kiev and picked a totally random spot on a totally random street.  It does.  Imagery from 2015 and, I shit you not, there is a swastika painted on a shed!  @50.4661427,30.4881492

386  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 09, 2022, 03:21:13 PM
The Supreme Court of the DPR sentenced to death British citizens Sean Pinner and Aiden Aslin, as well as Moroccan Saadoun Brahim, who are accused of participating in hostilities as part of the Ukrainian armed formations as mercenaries.

Putin might have enough sway in Donetsk to convince them to commute the sentences to life.

Maybe if Zenensky and Bojo went to Putin, hat-in-hand, and asked Mr. Putin nicely he would see what he could do.  If Zenensky and Bojo don't care enough about their own nationals (and people who fought on their behalf in coke-head's case) to even try that simple thing then there will be that much more blood on their hands.

Seriously for a minute, I'm curious if there are strong indications that the trial was either fair or unfair on the part of the DPR.  A non-partisan analysis of what is know of the proceedings would be of interest if anyone (serious) runs across such a thing.

387  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 09, 2022, 10:11:35 AM
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What's true and what's not?
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Best I can tell, Russia fires pretty specifically and accurately at targets which are, with high probability, involved in military and military logistics operations.  People living in Kiev seem fairly comfortable living in Kiev as long as they are not near military targets, and high profile Western politicians are comfortable strolling around the streets.  The more the citizenry of Kiev are used as human shields for logistics operations, the more danger they will be in, but one can hardly blame Russia for that.

Conversely, the Ukrainians seem happy to shell civilian targets specifically on their last trip out of one of the formerly Ukrainian areas.  Maybe it is just that the military targets are just to hard to reach and the ammunition is in the use-em-or-lose-em category so they exercise their characteristic vindictiveness against the civilian populations.  That contention is bolstered by the testimonies of the countless Ukrainian POWs and deserters.

The tactics of the Ukraine forces is echoed also by the civilians who actually do have a current 'POV' and have not bailed to Poland or whatever.

There is an inherent justice in this situation (unlike most of the operations engaged in by the West) in that the responsible side has the ability to target anywhere in the 'enemy' country at will, whereas the Jewkrainians are only allowed a limited range and a few shots from the titanium framed Western weapons before they break and have to be abandoned.  God is Great?

388  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 08, 2022, 04:56:27 PM
@icopress, may I ask you to open a self-moderated thread? Some other lusers have mentioned it and I think that, at this point, it may be the only way to save this thread.
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It's hilarious: the name of the thread literally starts with [POV]. For any Russians and tankies: this means [point of view]. It's icopress' point of view. His personal view, in text and pictures of how he and his close ones experience this war. The title also says that he answers questions; so if someone has questions to an eye-witness, they can ask them.

He did educate that cigerettes were good sellers in a war zone.  I mean, who knew?

If they want to come up with conspiracy theories or otherwise discuss international politics, there are enough other threads for that. They can even open a new one where they express all their opinions 'without censorship' (or anyone complaining). We're not complaining because they are a fan of Vladimir Putin, but because it's inappropriate and off-topic in this thread.

@tvbcof and @BADecker, please just make a discussion thread about the issues you have, but not clog up this [POV] thread.
Since you like to bring up the forum's history of free speech; you surely also know that there are unoffical official rules, such as:

Forum rules

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.
2. No off-topic posts.

You forgot to include ~paxmao who's comment had little or nothing to do with Ukraine and got this branch going.  I guess maybe a generalize tip about when running a grift, make sure that you have monopoly control of the narrative.

As for the relevance of posts, not everyone has a flexible enough mind to recognize relationships to context.  Or the same interests.  Maybe not even you, chief.

389  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 08, 2022, 02:05:35 PM
@icopress, may I ask you to open a self-moderated thread? Some other lusers have mentioned it and I think that, at this point, it may be the only way to save this thread.

Hey, that's right.  We're gonna getcha if you don't censor.  Look out!  Better make yourself a nice safe-space nest.  Don't be embarrassed; all the kids are doing it these days.  It's the new way to cope.

  https://youtu.be/onoaKEEyNEI?t=54


You have many threads to express your views or you can open your own, yet a few here prefer to throw completely off-topic half-baked "views" here to annihilate any on-topic conversation.


Freedom of speech has been a tenant of this forum since it was part of bitcoin.org.  The manager(s) of the form have done pretty well at maintaining that principle of open dialog relative to most platforms.

If you are dedicated to censorship as a standard method to overcome the deficiencies inherent in spamming ridiculous and already-proven-false info, you are hardly alone in the world of 2022.  You could use any of the big corporate platforms since your messaging doesn't conflict with what they want circulated.  I would say that you could even start your own, but it's not likely true as it requires some degree of technical savvy.

The main issue that I have is that you want to both leach off the work of others here AND change the platform to be Twitter-lite or something.

390  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POV] War in Ukraine (I will answer your questions). on: June 07, 2022, 10:45:31 PM
@icopress, may I ask you to open a self-moderated thread? Some other lusers have mentioned it and I think that, at this point, it may be the only way to save this thread.

Hey, that's right.  We're gonna getcha if you don't censor.  Look out!  Better make yourself a nice safe-space nest.  Don't be embarrassed; all the kids are doing it these days.  It's the new way to cope.

  https://youtu.be/onoaKEEyNEI?t=54

391  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 06, 2022, 02:51:58 PM
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Ukraine is a large strategic piece of land that creates a military buffer zone between the south-west and west.  That is why Russia wants to exterminate 40+ million people and destroy and then rebuild the area. Erase Ukrainian culture and replace it with Russian culture.
That is the plan.
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Since there is no credible evidence for this even though they have already a ton of opportunities, it's pretty clearly a 'plan' that originates in your own fever-dream mind mostly.  With help from psychological operations targeting your caliber of person of course.

Actually I kind of doubt that even you really believe very much of the BS you've been spouting, but whether or not it's not of much consequence.

392  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 06, 2022, 01:19:08 PM
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Sooner or later. It will be 100 times worse for them than Afghanistan and in the end, they will go home empty-handed.

Logic dictates that if Russia just wanted some easy resource there would be a ton of other places which would make a lot more sense.  IIRC, they were in Khazakstan less than a year ago to re-seat some WEF favorite after he had the great idea to not allow un-vaxxed into banks to get their money and was headed for safety out of the place in a private jet the next day.  That coincided with a world-wide loss of appetite for heavily coerced injections among the leaderships funny enough.  Likely temporary until some more ducks are in a row though.

(Parenthetically, it's crap like that which makes me pretty suspicious about 'Young Global Leader' Putin when Klaus Schwab brags up that Putin is one of his brood.)

Ukraine had, on paper at least, a formidable military and good defensive infrastructure by world standards.  Not exactly 'low hanging fruit'.  Russia would have had a much better time of it just taking care of unfinished business in Georgia and that sort of thing if he was bent on theft and conquest.  Maybe he's just getting to it.  Wouldn't surprise me.

393  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 05, 2022, 06:57:38 AM
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Before you start screaming about US being the liars, remember...Russia did annex Crimea. 

After a referendum by the people of Crimea which made it crystal clear that almost none of them had any interest in being terrorized by Nazi filth installed in Kiev by American neo-conservatives.

The American rebel that went so hard anti establishment he ended up pro Putin establishment.

Where is the 'pro Putin establishment'?  If you figure out the answer to that question, you may end up learning something about yourself.  Probably not though.

394  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The power of youths in politics and ensuring your vote and every vote counts on: June 05, 2022, 06:13:08 AM

'Youths' may make reasonable choices at more or less coin-flip rates if there were actually choices to be made, but the way the 'democracy' game usually works it is played with a two-headed coin.  'Youths' are used for other things which is why social engineers in service to the power structures demand to get access to them at a very young age (see 'public schools', truancy regulations, etc.)  In doing so, they gain ownership of most peoples minds for at least two or three decades when in some people it starts to wear off.

In both posts, you can agree with me that youths do play any leadership role in the political structure of a nation state. The best place the tend to come in is in the process of leadership selection. This I think it's outrightly wrong.
I look a my country and I see them open slots and make it look accommodating for youths and even women, like they encourage and welcome there participation but, this is just another deceit in itself.
The leadership roles are decided and circulated by political godfathers and friends who chose a time to lead and whom to hand over to. Though candidates are paraded to us and make it look like democratic but in the real sense, it's just the godfathers playing there roles and the youths as just a means or tool to the process.

I'm not sure you read my post correctly.  Youths tend to play the roll of the 2000 lb bull with the ring through it's nose.  You can put a rider on it's back and shock it with cattle prods to have a little fun, but mostly it lives in a pen and is content enough to munch food (video games and porn) until it is trucked to the next scheduled rodeo (BLM rally, climate change rally, Charleston psy-op, etc).

395  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 05, 2022, 06:01:33 AM
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Before you start screaming about US being the liars, remember...Russia did annex Crimea. 

After a referendum by the people of Crimea which made it crystal clear that almost none of them had any interest in being terrorized by Nazi filth installed in Kiev by American neo-conservatives.

396  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meet Some War Heroes of Ukraine (In progress) on: June 05, 2022, 05:56:34 AM
For those who missed it, the woman responsible for many of the 'heroes' and 'villains' of the Ukraine narrative actually managed to get her ass fired.  By Ukraine!  Took a while, and a lot of egg on the faces of a lot of lamestream media 'personalities', but there is still a limit I guess.  Even in the Jewkrainian govt-by-acting-troupe so it would seem.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/mZZ1EJqmBmU/

What did not happen is reinstatement of the social media accounts which were cancelled on the basis of questioning a lot of this lady's bullshit.  Imagine my shock.

397  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 04, 2022, 03:37:28 PM

The establishment by Russia of control over the Donbas and the South of Ukraine is now only a matter of time. Arms deliveries by the West already look more like symbolic gestures than real help. Numerous replacements from the defense are simply not ready to fight, and the most combat-ready parts of Ukraine have already been ground in a meat grinder in the Donbas. I do not think that Russia will stop there, I think Russia will solve the issue with Ukraine systematically and comprehensively.

We'll see I guess.  Seems to me that the neocon led West is determined to get a Vietnam cranking along somewhere in the area.  Seems to me that it will be in either Russian Kiev, or non-Russian Kiev.  I'm betting that the Russians are smart enough to arrange the latter.  It's pretty obvious that it won't be in the East or South of pre-2022 Ukraine since the local demographics won't support it.

(On the demographics, I'm either echoing Lira here or he's echoing me...I don't recall.  He said as much, but it was my analysis as well by looking at the situation as carefully as I can as it's been playing out.)

Seems to me that Russia is by no means 'land poor' so they don't particularly need the resources they may leave on the table by ignoring or behaving reactively to what goes on in 'the rump'.  To the degree that they really do care about their 'Slavic brothers', they can easily let them slip through the new borders (and allow them to filter back home armed and trained if they so choose.)  With an open-ended conflict, any attacks from UkRumpistan can be met with a 'kaliberation' pretty much anywhere the Russians feel like doing one (although when Poland formally annexes Lviv and the other areas in the West it might limit their flexibility to a degree.)

I would expect that ultimately the UkRumpistani militants would be focused on causing trouble in the Westward direction anyway.

398  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The power of youths in politics and ensuring your vote and every vote counts on: June 04, 2022, 01:26:16 PM
Youths are very important to every voting system, Every political party needs the youths to give them their support and votes,because the population of the youths in the world are very bigger than that of the adults.Youth's energy during election is the main reason why any political party that passes election succeeds.The devotion and the strength they put in an election while it's going on is the major reason why the party who succeeds or wins wins.

Good argument for making sure that actual 'democracy' never actually occurs.

'Youths' may make reasonable choices at more or less coin-flip rates if there were actually choices to be made, but the way the 'democracy' game usually works it is played with a two-headed coin.  'Youths' are used for other things which is why social engineers in service to the power structures demand to get access to them at a very young age (see 'public schools', truancy regulations, etc.)  In doing so, they gain ownership of most peoples minds for at least two or three decades when in some people it starts to wear off.

399  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 04, 2022, 05:42:14 AM

For a hundred days of the operation, the Russian army clearly showed the West its combat capability. The West has focused too much on counter-terrorist operations in recent decades and has forgotten how to fight on a full scale. Russia has Poseidons and Sarmatians, Zircons and Daggers on combat duty - and the West has no methods how to counteract them. I do not see any real prospects in the feasibility of your plans.

I maintain my suspicion that Russia has little or no interest in any area but the East and Southern seaboard.  As they take control of real estate in these areas of interest they are just integrated into the Russian federation with massive support of the locals.  As I've said before, the ZioNazi presence for 8 years was a big advantage to Russia over and above simple cultural and language demographics.  The Russian speaking Ukrainians I knew had zero use for Russia so either most of the people in that category already left, or changed their minds after the neocon color revolution and installation of neo-nazi terrorists from 2014 till early 2022.  I mean there are waiting lines around the block for people to get their Russian passports.

So, with these areas locked in (and some loose-end areas to liberate including possibly Odessa unless it just becomes trading stock), Russia might as well give NATO and the neocons the 'Vietnam' they want.  Just have it take place in the Kiev area and West of that.  That should keep the Western military industrial complex busy and rolling in tax dollars, and the JewSA neocon God Moloch happy with a steady stream of souls.

As for longer range destructive capability given to whack-a-doodle psychos like Zelenski and his merry band of Nazis, two can play at that game.  And a nation who has installations and activities all around the world is much more vulnerable.  That only problem is that now and in the foreseeable future on the current trajectory, ruined American equipment to be replaced and dead servicemen 'is not a bug; it's a feature.'  But the thing about whack-a-doodle psychos is that they could hit other things (e.g., corporate owned infrastructure...which may or may not be in competition with native Russian product creating favorable supply/demand curves.)  That's more likely to get the attention of the people who matter (in the WEF, BlackRock, and etc.)  And if that fails to get attention, there is always Israel.

400  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: June 03, 2022, 07:17:53 PM
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BTW grain is being looted in Kherson region and other areas not part of DNR/LNR.
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Makes sense to make Kherson part of Crimea, administratively, because of certain water issues.

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