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1301  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 15, 2021, 05:05:21 PM
- count non-vaccinated people whenever a test comes up positive or whenever a 'doctor' 'suspects' that a person might have 'covid'.  Presumably the same sorts of cash bonuses exist for 'treating covid cases' which is sure to bolster the numbers as needed.

Right. So if only "very few" people are involved, how many of your conspiracy doctors exactly are seeing suspected COVID cases, given there was a peak of 250,000 a day? Is it one per state, or maybe Fauci sees every one personally? Man, he must be busy!


If you give 'free money' by just by having doctors (and dentists even) mark down 'covid', make it clear to them through administrative channels that you wanted them to do that and that they can do it if the victim has a couple of symptoms (e.g., a temp + a headache) and tell them that there will be no follow-up, most people are going to take it.  Doesn't mean that they are exactly 'bad people' since they didn't see much ham in picking up some free bucks, and it certainly doesn't mean that they understand the intricacies of gene therapy or the kinds of control mechanisms people like Schwab and Gates are seeking to put in place.

This stuff is kind of obvious.  Thus, it is also kind of obvious that you are being deliberately dense and/or grasping at straws.

1302  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 15, 2021, 04:30:54 PM
-snip-
Ahh damn Cnut237, we were both wrong. Turns out the real answer is that every doctor, every nurse, every pharmacist, every lab tech, every virologist, every epidemiologist, every you get the idea in the entire world is part of a grand conspiracy that only tvbcof and BADecker can see through! Roll Eyes

Yeah, yeah.  This one is getting old.  Any fool can see that very few people would need to be in the manufacture and distribution loop to pull off some adulteration of vaccines.  Why don't you flip to another page in your binder and find a new talking point.

When the first atomic bomb went off it was a big surprise to almost everyone, and the Manhattan project was vastly more visible than the opaque world of pharmaceuticals and biologicals.  They had Los Almos with a stunning collection of top physicists, and huge facilities with tons of workers in Washington and in Oak Ridge.  Almost nobody who worked at or on these facilities had the slightest idea of what they were actually working towards.


1303  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [POLL] Do vaccines kill people? on: May 15, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
The new strategy to make 'vaccines' 'work' is to:

 - count vaccinated people as covid cases only if the have to go to the hospital.

 - count non-vaccinated people whenever a test comes up positive or whenever a 'doctor' 'suspects' that a person might have 'covid'.  Presumably the same sorts of cash bonuses exist for 'treating covid cases' which is sure to bolster the numbers as needed.

A corresponding fraud:

 - halt RT-PCR cycles at 28 when testing for SARS-cov-2 in vaccinated people.

 - continue to run the test cycles deep into the no-go zone when testing non-vaccinated people to take advantage of the false-positive rate.

They calculate that most people are to stupid to comprehend the mechanics of the fraud.  Sadly I don't think they are wrong about this.

1304  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 15, 2021, 07:23:43 AM
ive been invited to take the AstraZeneca vaccine this week. I already had covid tho last year...would you still take it?

I'd rather take the virus twice than taking the AZ or J&J vaccine. Haven't you been reading the news? They fuck you up.

https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20210422/scientists-find-how-astrazeneca-vaccine-causes-clots

At this point only sputnikV looks promising to me.

Sputnik-V is DNA like AZ or J&J.  They all use adenovirus 'vectors'.  Sputnik's 'secret sauce' is to use two different species of adenovirus so that the booster infect better (because a semi-functional human immune system recognizes the earlier adenovirus infection and fights off the booster to a degree.)

SinoPHARM is advertized to be plain old-school inactivated virus (though it may be saline if one pays enough), but it is almost impossible to obtain.  Outside of China it seems to go mostly to the elite such as presidents and generals under 'compassionate use' loopholes.  I've heard various things about SinoVAC including that it is also old-school inactivated virus technology...but all of these so-called 'vaccines' could be various different things depending on the time and place.  No way to know.

1305  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 15, 2021, 04:55:49 AM

Yesterday my family were in contact with a minor government official who had to get vaxxed a few days ago in order to keep his job.  Today my wife is feeling poorly.


You can not lose a job for a none approved vaccine. At this stage all vaccines have emergency authorization only.
Don't let your place of employment bully you.
At end of day everyone has to make own choice, whats more important job or life.

https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/23/federal-law-prohibits-employers-and-others-from-requiring-vaccination-with-a-covid-19-vaccine-distributed-under-an-eua/

The work around is that a government worker needs to be able to travel.  So-called 'private industry' (the airlines, buses, etc) won't let you travel if you are not injected.  Ergo, you need injections if you want to keep your government job, but the government policy is NOT itself forcing participation in the drug trials which have emergency use authorization (rather than 'approval').

1306  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Israel is evil. Finish them off! on: May 15, 2021, 03:11:53 AM

Most Jews do not like to admit it but our god is Lucifer…”  -- Harold Wallace Rosenthal

The quote/assertion has some nuance as do most things of course.  I only skimmed the article so far but I'll go back and re-read it later when I have some time.

1307  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 15, 2021, 03:02:02 AM

Yesterday my family were in contact with a minor government official who had to get vaxxed a few days ago in order to keep his job.  Today my wife is feeling poorly.

1308  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 14, 2021, 03:11:57 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated/index.html

New CDC guidelines -- Vaxed people can go outside or go indoors maskless.

Who would have thought it would have taken the morons at the CDC this long to say what doctors around the world have been saying? How long did it take them to look at the Israel data which show the vaccine is massively effective? No offense, but you're a bit paranoid if you are wearing a mask after you've been vaccinated. Get vaccinated, take off the mask. Use common sense, CDC.


How wonderful it is to be vaccinated. The anxiety and fear are starting to diminish as we strive for the higher goods.

I wonder what will be the scenario after "Only the anti-vaxx" is not vaccinated, will they be like rallying over and over for not being able to go outside freely? HAHAHAHAHA how hilarious will it be

In a few years we'll be able to go outside free of you got-vaxxed zombies/mummies and pick out the vacant properties we want to develop.  The wild-card will be the shedding and whether you are going to be making us sick with your diseased GMO bodies cranking out God knows what.  I'm more than happy to stay isolated for a few years if that's what it takes not to pick up your filthy shed.  Just hope that practicable isolation will be effective, or that some other method will be found.

1309  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India covid19 crisis on: May 14, 2021, 09:18:25 AM
Smartphones are so expensive in India, that nobody can get any video of all the damage being done by Covid... videoing at the hospitals, of course.


What cell phones do exist are tied up making 'desi' aunty porn...which I personally approve of and appreciate Smiley

1310  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 13, 2021, 01:40:07 AM
Some of the posters here are nothing more than extened arm of goovment. They play the tune as good or even better without missing a tone.
Cyperpunks they arn't, Hal would be sadden take aback at state of forum. Dogecoiners are more Bitcoiners than this bunch of pretenters are.
They are a disgrase to whole Bitcoin community. What they really stand for:


Cryptocurrency gained attention of the corp/gov not too long after it got going.  It's a fair bet that they took all the standard steps to attempt to maintain some guidance over it's trajectory.  That would include exploiting compromisable individuals (of which there are plenty in the crypto space) and arranging 'deep' social media roots.  Bitcointalk had a bigger footprint earlier in the game in earlier times, so it seems a fair bet to me that some of the voices here exist for strategic reasons.  Many others have simply been re-assigned.  We probably see some residuals, and of the B and C team quality mostly.

1311  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 11, 2021, 08:47:46 PM

Uploader says it was a covid jab.  I see no evidence that that is the case, but then I have also not looked real hard.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/j5yKSMbZgb6s/
  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Ux6awXbLiCkF/

One way or another, I'm guessing that the parents who dragged their kids in for the initial child trials are actually getting paid.  After the jam those trials through the remainder of the families won't get jack shit, and by law the insurance doesn't even have to pay if you are stupid enough to willingly participate in a drug trail (as have 100 million Americans so far I guess.)

1312  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Coronavirus Outbreak on: May 11, 2021, 06:54:44 PM
The theory that COVID-19 escaped from a lab may not be so far-fetched
https://nypost.com/2021/05/09/theory-that-covid-escaped-from-a-lab-may-not-be-far-fetched/

We 'conspiracy theorist' knew all this shit, and a lot more, for a long time.  Over a year in a lot of cases.  The people describing the issues have been banished from social media platforms, but they can still be followed for people who care to do so.

The shit is about to come out so mainstream is trying to do damage control by guiding the peep's perceptions and trying desperately to make it look like they are a little bit more useful than tits on a boar hog.  What a joke.

1313  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 10, 2021, 02:33:50 PM
Praying for the wellness of INDIA, hope my prays comes to your country.

I don't want to blame the Hindu Festival cause its their own countries beliefs, but please let that be a major lesson to take the pandemic more seriously now.

At this point, they could have avoided the festival (Kumbh Mela), since it has been blamed for a least some of the spike. But the government needs to investigate the origin of the double mutant strain of the Coronavirus (B.1.617). I am feeling something fishy about this strain. Why it is limited to India and not found in any of the neighboring nations? Anyway, indications are that this wave might be levelling off. For the last 2-3 days, there is a slight decline in the number of new cases.

Going conspitard theorist on us now, eh?  Is the earth flat too?  Har, Har.

Experts say that the 'double mutant strain', and the virus staying on it's side of the national border is totally expected.  Just like the cloud with radioactive fallout from Chernobyl did.

Don't worry about this stuff else you will be wearing a tinfoil hat and people won't like you.

1314  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 09, 2021, 10:38:26 AM
Just another sad day for India. I hope that they'll surpass this difficult times.
Covid-19: India records over 4,000 deaths, 4 lakh cases in a day

Praying for the wellness of INDIA, hope my prays comes to your country.

I don't want to blame the Hindu Festival cause its their own countries beliefs, but please let that be a major lesson to take the pandemic more seriously now.

I guess we'll just have to embrace a uniform 'one world religion' which will help us all 'be safe.'  Might I suggest a mixture of Scientism and Noahidism?

1315  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid spike protein causing deadly blood clots > in all the covid vaccines ... on: May 09, 2021, 09:10:54 AM


..
covid19 damages lungs more and causes more pathogen to cause damage in other organs and so the bloodclot risk is more like 10%

and so vaccine is 1000-10,000x safer than getting covid

i personally rather have a needle in my arm rather than a virus in my lung.




I feel so afraid after seeing such images. I wish and hope everyone remain safe from this deadly covid-19 virus.  Cry

Wait!  Are you sure that that image is not from the 'mystery vaping illness' which popped up in 'clusters' here and there (including around the biological weapons labs of Fort Detrick) in 2019?  You know, the one which caused 'ground glass opacity' in the lung x-rays?  You remember that one don't you?

1316  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 09, 2021, 07:37:35 AM
My beef isn't with the vaccine directly, but the system that would force this on people.  If you bend over for your shot now (not literally) then you'll likely have us all doing it for the rest of our lives in order to go outside.  I strongly believe it will weaken the human population as a whole.  Like a person who starts using chapstick and finds their lips are dry constantly without it, one day mankind will be dependent upon vaccines to survive if we continue down this path. 

That day passed some time ago.  The WHO recognized it in the same conference that they recognized that they are losing the confidence of the medical profession itself, and also that 'we all know' that full medical doctors got 1/2 a day of training on 'vaccines' in their 8 years of med school and don't know shit about the technology really.  And that was the old technology prior to the re-tooled gene therapy treatments.

It was the same conference when they realized that they have dug the hole you described and only then realized that the shit isn't work.  Not even when they pile on more and more 'boosters'.  Basically you turn someone into a vegetable before you hit the point of 'immunity', and that is only for one possible ailment among thousands.  They don't know whether to shit or go blind!  They seem to be pinning their hopes on gene therapy because they've got nothing else.

Meanwhile the 'unvaxxed' are doing fine and it is becoming increasingly evident.  Since not vaccinating is a non-option due to the way the medical/industrial complex and 'public health' works, they are really desperate.

It is little wonder that it is the 'medical professionals' themselves who are rejecting the covid jabs at the highest rates.  And a fair number of those who didn't have already eaten the big one.

1317  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you trust the co-vid19 vaccine ? on: May 08, 2021, 08:22:09 PM
If a virus can spread through air and vaccine is very small amount of virus then why can’t we spread vaccine through air and end the pandemic once for all.

Just a thought...

You are a day late and a dollar short.  It's been 'thought up' for quite a while now:

Page 47 here:  https://jhsphcenterforhealthsecurity.s3.amazonaws.com/181009-gcbr-tech-report.pdf

From: https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/self-spreading-vaccines-self-amplifying-mrna-vaccines-covid-vaccine-menstrual-disruption/

How crazy is the assertion from unvaccinated women that they seem to be 'catching' fucked up menstruation from their vaccinated peers again?

People are suggesting the spike protein itself must be spreading.  Although I could imagine it being fairly powerful, I cannot really see it 'spreading' in this manner very effectively.  OTOH, adenovirus which is designed to put a custom designed DNA payload into the infected person's cells very likely could spread around if, like polio, the virus reverted to a replication-competent state...or was 'accidentally' never put into one in the first place.

1318  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 07:54:51 PM
Another one from India.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Moax1yF9IQvt/

No translation needed.  People all over the world 'hang their heads in shame' in the same manner;  see the lady who appears to be a nurse.

Surely more and more of the medical staff would be starting to realize that they are being set up as the biggest scapegoats in the history of mankind.

Here's one from Brazil.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/1n0u3UBECHZk/

Another that is probably somewhat dated footage but some I had not seen before.  I went to two hospitals in my locked-down country and could not actually get into one of them but saw only one or two people come and go in the few hours I watched before being sent to another.  The other was pretty close to what this vid shows from what I saw in the several hours total time that I was in it.  So, I do speak with some hands-on personal experience.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/BHEwCd1R5TCu/

It would be pretty hard for people to 'stage' these things.  Occam's Razor suggests that these private citizens walked into these facilities and filmed what they saw.  And they were rightly outraged given the propaganda.  Obviously the stuff that got on-line would have been from the leading edge of people who are outspoken and the commentary frequently reflects this.

1319  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 04:46:59 PM

The trend in highly-vaccinated nations does seem to be a dramatic reduction in cases. It's worth noting that in the UK, new cases were dropping significantly prior to the vaccine rollout (due to a strict lockdown after Christmas)... which I think goes some way towards invalidating your 'scare people into taking the vaccine' hypothesis (as does the widespread media hysteria about blood clots).

And then once the lockdown was eased, vaccination was at a sufficient level that case numbers continued to fall. I'm not as familiar with the situation in Israel.

[img_ width=600]https://i.imgur.com/ZKtayjY.jpg[/img]
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom
[img_ width=600]https://i.imgur.com/EvC7sRj.jpg[/img]
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/israel

Missing vaccination rates and lock-down markers on the above charts.  Someone will probably have them soon.  I'll keep an eye half open for them.

On a hunch last year when the mask were in full swing I did enough looking to see if Israelis were wearing them by finding some random tourista vids.  Almost everyone had them, and right around 100% were around their necks.  Some people who were pretty clearly tourist were wearing them on their mouths and noses.  It's going to be hard to tell me that Israel had 'success' by masking up.  In my experience most Jews are simply not big enough freiers or nudneks to fall for something so idiotic and insulting so I'm not surprised to see their attitude about their muzzles.  I'm sure that at least some of them were aware that it was part of a bigger plan.

Anyway, as I've said for a while, I highly doubt that the same 'formulation' is used in each country never mind the potential population genetics which could be a factor.  I said from the get-go that I figured the chances of using the same 'Pfizer' in Israel as they use in other countries is near nill, and that's likely why they didn't shop around much.  Corp/gov are promising to get around to having independent audits to validate product consistency around summer 2021 as a rough target, though I don't recall if that was Pfizer or not.

We do know that some people in the U.S. got saline at the pharmacy because they got letters saying to come back in for real shots.  Given that 'we' are still in trials, that's actually fairly appropriate, though I suspect it was more about needing to do something about the spiraling death counts.  We also hear about 'mixing accidents' with 'bad batches' and 'mishandling' and what-not so the suggestion that the contents of different vials are not necessarily the same is not particularly in question.  The question is more whether some outfit like Pfizer (who has been successfully sued billions for falsifying safety data and other malfeasance) would cook up different batches for different people is plausible.  I think it is actually more than likely...but than I've studied previous 'vaccination' programs around the world and the eugenics movements more than most people have.

1320  Other / Politics & Society / Re: India records another 3,980 convid-19 death in one day on: May 08, 2021, 02:01:22 PM
...

Here's the image from your video:
[img_ width=600]https://i.imgur.com/um15vvV.jpg[/img]

Kinda blurry, but weirdly for this sort of video, the chart does seem accurate. Source here with clearer charts and links to data: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/india

So the data are accurate. But is the conclusion accurate, that vaccination is causing the increase in cases? Well, no.

The reason the conclusion is flawed is because those two lines use different scales. Are cases increasing dramatically in India? Yes. Is vaccination increasing? Yes.
But vaccination is still at a very very low rate, and so is likely to have only a very small impact, and certainly not enough to prevent case numbers from surging. If the vaccination level were considerably higher, then we would expect case numbers to begin to fall - as indeed we see in the UK, where doses administered per 100 people is 75, compared with India's 11.

[img_ width=800]https://i.imgur.com/BLxKlHg.jpg[/img]
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita


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edit: I should add that spurious correlations are everywhere. But we often need to dig deeper to determine whether or not there is a causal relationship...

[img_ width=800]https://i.imgur.com/cwJFGH2.jpg[/img]
https://tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

At least you are making a feeble attempt to have an intelligent conversation about this.

I agree about the need to determine if there is a causal relationship, but I am unimpressed with the (very tired) strategy of pointing out that spurious correlations do exist in the real world sometimes.  That observation is pretty much a 'no-shit' to anyone with a brain, and it seems to be reached for by people trying to desperately fight back against Occam's razor.

Granting your assertion of a 'very very low rate' for 'jabs' in India, I would point out that if whatever is being jabbed there is particularly hard on the population it also could (not 'does') help explain the chart features fairly convincingly even given the scales.

For myself, I believe two things to be very probably true  1) a large fraction of the population (in the 50% range most likely) have been infected with SARS-cov-2 over the past 15 months and have cleared it as typical of any coronavirus, and 2) once one has cleared the virus, re-infection with any naturally occurring derivative within the next few years is unlikely.  These two 'very probablys' make me not anticipate a sudden spike.

Now I myself have anticipated, and loudly and publicly so, that we WOULD see a 'sudden spike' because it would be the most effective way to get people to roll up their sleeves (or have them rolled up while pinned to the ground) even in light of increasingly evident damage being caused.

A good test of various hypotheses will be to analyze if the same spike and the same timing of record breaking 'cases' happen in multiple different countries.  It will be amusing to see the contortions that certain 'experts' use to explain that one...if we see it of course...

Oh BTW, thanks for snapping the chart, uploading it, and for a decent assessment of it.  For real.

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