Мда. И тут же стал недемократичным. Гэгэмон должен разобраться, лягушатников обижают! Очень интересная заваруха намечается. Гегемон пока в недоумении. Карин "Домовёнок Кузя" Жан-Пьер давеча доверительно сообщила миру, что дескать "Ситуация остаётся подвижной. Ещё очень рано характеризовать природу происходящих событий". Не до Африки пока гегемону, ему Фитч кредитный рейтинг понизил. Мелочь, а обидно. Ну, ничё, пусть привыкают  У Франции расклад не из приятных. Либо молча проглотить пилюлю и съебаться нахуй, либо получить в подарок свой собственный маленький африканский Вьетнам. |
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Yep, December 8, 2018. You indicated the date, but why didn’t you say anything about the year? Because that year there was no special operation yet, and even probably the railway line of the Crimean bridge. The rest of the links are all the same crooked handwriting of Ukrainian propaganda. It is foolish to transport military equipment over a road bridge, which can hardly cope with the flow of civilian traffic when there is a separate railway line nearby. But this is not essential, because we are talking about the transfer of Russian military equipment by the automobile branch of the Crimean bridge in general. It doesn't even matter here whether it was before the full-scale Russian invasion in February 2022 or later. The article itself at your link was published on December 9, 2018. But of course it doesn't matter to you, I already understood that. The fact remains that both the railway and the road are used by Russia to transfer military equipment to the occupied Ukrainian peninsula of Crimea, which means that this bridge is a legitimate military target for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. In addition, even if Russia did not use the Crimean bridge for military purposes, it was still built illegally, without agreement with Ukraine, which means that Ukraine itself has the right to determine its fate, especially after the de-occupation of Crimea. Therefore, damage or destruction of the bridge cannot be considered a terrorist attack, as Russia presents to the world community.
There is no need for Russia to present anything to the world community, the world community already understands everything very well. Ukraine screwed up with its counteroffensive, has been marking time for two months now and in a couple of places was only able to get closer to the first line of defense. This, even with a big stretch, cannot be sold to the West as a victory, although the West has provided Ukraine with everything necessary for success. Ukraine can successfully fight only against civilians, that is, engage in terror - and the West on the eve of the elections will not support failed terrorists. A diplomatic row is already flaring up between Ukraine and Poland, and there is talk in the West about the possible assassination of Zelensky. And Ukraine itself is preparing a "peace summit" in Saudi Arabia and suddenly became preoccupied with the opinion of the "Global South", although the previous peace summit in Copenhagen completely failed and its participants could not even agree on any joint communiqué. |
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I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack.
I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty.
I have no idea why this building was attacked. There is Ministry of Industry and Trade or Ministry of Digital Development, Communications and Mass Media is located in MIBC, but it doesn't sounds like targets. There isn't even guarantee that these drones were released from territory of Ukraine, after all distance to Moscow isn't such small. Anyway, it's fun to see Russians complaining about terrorist attacks, when their country is doing it almost on daily basis and on much higher scale. And BTW, didn't you said something similar about West turning their backs on Ukraine if they won't show significant results of counteroffensive before NATO summit? Haven't you noticed the decline in support for Ukraine in the West since the counter-offensive didn't go according to plan? Or has the taste of disappointment already washed off Zelensky’s lips at the results of the NATO summit in Vilnius, which left Ukraine in limbo by canceling the NATO membership plan and offering no clear entry algorithm in return? Do not worry, this problem is already being solved during the special operation, Russia has a very rich experience in the successful fight against Nazism.
You are confused, obviously.  Your braindead war criminal dictator, Putler, is actively financing fascists all over Europe, like he's financing Germany's AfD as well.  Get your facts right, you Russian war crimes apologist.  Perhaps sanctions do not work well if Putin manages to finance the European opposition. |
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Apparently you do not understand the meaning of the word "blockade", but I will explain it to you now. The blockade means Russia is blocking shipping through Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea. Ports in the Danube are not under blockade, navigation through them by any ships flying the flags of third countries can be carried out without hindrance. However, Russia reserves the right to strike dual-use port infrastructure because it has good reason to believe that it is being used to transport weapons to Ukraine. With these strikes, Russia contributes to the speedy end of the conflict, albeit not in the way that Ukraine likes.
This means that Russia reserves the right to strike at the dual-use port infrastructure, since it has only some reason to believe that the port infrastructure is being used to transport weapons to Ukraine. Don't you regard such attacks on the port infrastructure as terrorist acts? I'm not even talking about delivering strikes with "calibers", that is, high-precision weapons, on residential buildings, as it happened the other day in Krivoy Rog, where the entrance from the fourth to the ninth floors was destroyed by "calibers". Then why does Russia call the strikes on the Kerch bridge a terrorist attack, if the occupiers constantly transport heavy military equipment to the southern front in Ukraine through it? Because the Crimean bridge consists of two branches - automobile and railway. The railway branch is dual-purpose, and the automobile is civil. The railway line of the Crimean bridge is a legitimate military target for Ukraine, and the attack on the road line is a terrorist act. And do not pretend that you are too stupid not to understand the difference yourself. Did you yourself come up with the fact that Russia does not use the road branch of the Crimean bridge for the transfer of military equipment in order to use it in the war against Ukraine? Then I am the first to give a link to a site with a video of how tractors on platforms transport caterpillar military equipment along the automobile branch of the Crimean Bridge. As can be seen from the text of this link, it was published online on December 8 by one of the builders of the bridge, who recorded the movement of several pieces of equipment from the height of the railway line. On the video, you can replace the column of tractors with tanks that are moving to the Crimea along the bridge. The video shows a wide panorama of the Crimean bridge, which cannot be confused with any other bridge. https://sud.ua/ru/news/obshchestvo/130280-rossiya-perebrasyvaet-tanki-v-okkupirovannyy-krym-cherez-kerchenskiy-mosthttps://flot2017.com/okkupanty-perebrasyvajut-cherez-krymskij-most-tehniku-foto/https://24tv.ua/ru/na-krymskom-mostu-fiksirujut-kolonny-vrazheskoj-tehniki-smi_n2150756https://www.rbc.ua/ukr/news/rosiyski-viyskovi-perekidayut-tehniku-timchasovo-1666009462.htmlhttps://www.unian.net/war/rossiya-aktivno-perebrasyvaet-voennuyu-tehniku-iz-kryma-foto-12055437.htmlYep, December 8, 2018. You indicated the date, but why didn’t you say anything about the year? Because that year there was no special operation yet, and even probably the railway line of the Crimean bridge. The rest of the links are all the same crooked handwriting of Ukrainian propaganda. It is foolish to transport military equipment over a road bridge, which can hardly cope with the flow of civilian traffic when there is a separate railway line nearby. |
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And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification. What's denazification? How should it be done? From what I'm seeing in this thread, you're mixing terms and using the word "nazi" to describe Ukrainian nationalists. So, you want to get rid of nationalists in Ukraine? What gives you, a foreigner, the right to interfere in their internal politics? Last time I checked the real Nazis (Germans) attacked their neighbors, but Ukrainians were attacked. No amount of name calling will change the fact that Russians are the aggressors here. Nazism is an internal affair of any state, only as long as this state is actively and effectively fighting Nazism. In Ukraine, Nazism spread metastases to the broad masses and even to state authorities, so this ceased to be an internal affair of Ukraine. Do not worry, this problem is already being solved during the special operation, Russia has a very rich experience in the successful fight against Nazism. |
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And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification. You enjoying the new drones that I predicted to hit Moscow just one day ago and today it was the truth.Russia how funny they are,one of their generals said some time before that hardly any sky is shielded more than that of Moscow yet drones are hitting the financial district,Russia is incapable of protecting their own citizens and the so called elite which work in that institution that was hit.Ukraine never forget any war crimes Russia has made and will make them pay as Zelensky says it is only a natural process that the war will be felt inside Russia,inside Moscow.I am waiting for more strikes and devastation against a country which started a war out of nowhere and this is the end of malevolent countries. I'm trying to find any military reason for these drone attacks on the business center, but unfortunately I can't. And a repeated strike on the same building in Moscow City refutes the version of the Russian Defense Ministry that the first drone was suppressed by electronic warfare, these were targeted Ukrainian attacks on a skyscraper in Moscow, in which there are no military facilities. Simply put, this is pure terrorist attack. I understand why Ukraine resorts to terrorist tactics - because its counter-offensive is failing. I understand, but I don't condone it. It is impossible to defend democratic values by terrorist methods. Soon even its most zealous supporters in the West will turn their backs on Ukraine, because support for Ukraine already smells very shitty. |
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Ruzzia has choosen a path that is likely to lead it to a lower stance in the world and a reduced influence even at regional level. The war with Ukraine is sucking up armament at a pace that simply cannot be sustained, so regardless of the territorial and economic result of the war, Russia will have an army that is a shadow of what it was, including the reputation.
Don't be silly, Russia will come out of this conflict much stronger than it was before. The mass experience of using unmanned aerial vehicles alone is worth something. Armies around the world are now carefully studying the Ukrainian conflict, trying to learn valuable lessons from it, but the experience gained in practice is much more effective than any theory. |
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Apparently you do not understand the meaning of the word "blockade", but I will explain it to you now. The blockade means Russia is blocking shipping through Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea. Ports in the Danube are not under blockade, navigation through them by any ships flying the flags of third countries can be carried out without hindrance. However, Russia reserves the right to strike dual-use port infrastructure because it has good reason to believe that it is being used to transport weapons to Ukraine. With these strikes, Russia contributes to the speedy end of the conflict, albeit not in the way that Ukraine likes.
This means that Russia reserves the right to strike at the dual-use port infrastructure, since it has only some reason to believe that the port infrastructure is being used to transport weapons to Ukraine. Don't you regard such attacks on the port infrastructure as terrorist acts? I'm not even talking about delivering strikes with "calibers", that is, high-precision weapons, on residential buildings, as it happened the other day in Krivoy Rog, where the entrance from the fourth to the ninth floors was destroyed by "calibers". Then why does Russia call the strikes on the Kerch bridge a terrorist attack, if the occupiers constantly transport heavy military equipment to the southern front in Ukraine through it? Because the Crimean bridge consists of two branches - automobile and railway. The railway branch is dual-purpose, and the automobile is civil. The railway line of the Crimean bridge is a legitimate military target for Ukraine, and the attack on the road line is a terrorist act. And do not pretend that you are too stupid not to understand the difference yourself. |
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Well, why deny the obvious past events and facts? On July 24, Russia attacked the Danube terminals of Reni and Izmail with Iranian drones. At the same time, three drones were shot down, the rest destroyed the hangar with grain and damaged storage tanks for cargo. Having bombed the elevators and the port in Odessa, Russia took up alternative routes for the export of Ukrainian grain, which has already led to new rounds of food prices in the world, since Ukraine is one of the world's leading grain suppliers and Russia's main competitor in the grain market. The Danube is one of the key export routes with a monthly throughput of over 2 million tons. Since the port of Reni is located close to the border with Moldova and across the Danube from Romania, analysts believed that Russia would not risk bombing an object a hundred meters from the territory of a NATO member state. But it wasn’t enough for Russia that in nine days after withdrawing from the grain deal, it destroyed over 180 thousand tons of grain, 26 port infrastructure facilities and sank five civilian ships by launching missile attacks on the Black Sea ports of Ukraine. Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/articles/c2jrp1yxvngo&ved=2ahUKEwiu_tOU7rqAAxVZhv0HHZB-D18Qjjh6BAgTEAE&usg=AOvVaw11ABJulIs0dn A92i7zQB3b So you say, carry grain by land and along the Danube as much as you like? Thus, Russia eliminates a trade competitor in the face of Ukraine? Purely bandit methods of a terrorist country. Apparently you do not understand the meaning of the word "blockade", but I will explain it to you now. The blockade means Russia is blocking shipping through Ukrainian ports in the Black Sea. Ports in the Danube are not under blockade, navigation through them by any ships flying the flags of third countries can be carried out without hindrance. However, Russia reserves the right to strike dual-use port infrastructure because it has good reason to believe that it is being used to transport weapons to Ukraine. With these strikes, Russia contributes to the speedy end of the conflict, albeit not in the way that Ukraine likes. |
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Strictly speaking, what is the essence of the grain agreement for Russia? This is to stop shelling the territory of Ukraine, in particular, its Black Sea ports, to stop attacking civilian ships and, thus, to enable Ukraine to sell its grain on the international market. That is, in fact, the international community demanded from Russia to stop engaging in robbery and piracy against a neighboring state. Therefore, it is not necessary to show the actions of Russia as something that happens within the framework of ordinary civil contracts and the observance of some legitimate interests of Russia.
Are you seriously? This is the essence of the grain deal not for Russia, but for Ukraine. What is the benefit in this for Russia? Ukraine is a direct competitor of Russia in the grain supply market, why should Russia help its competitor? Russia is now the world leader in wheat exports, and this is largely because it has taken part of the market share from Ukraine. Only business, nothing personal. Try to learn to look at things more broadly, any deal should be mutually beneficial. Russia is constantly trying to be persuaded to gestures of goodwill, and then instead of gratitude, this is perceived as a sign of weakness. Do not do it this way. Yesterday there was information that the Israeli ship Ams1, despite threats from Russia, entered the Ukrainian branch of the Danube. It is the first ship to break the Russian blockade of the Black Sea since Russia's bombardment of the Danube port of Reni on 25 July. Ams1 is followed by Sahin 2 and Yilmaz Kaptan. Origin of these vessels: Israel, Greece and Türkiye/Georgia. The American P8 anti-ship aircraft provides security. It is refueled directly in the skies of Romania. Additional information is provided by the Forte12 RQ-4 reconnaissance drone. The situation is escalating and soon we will find out whether Russia is ready to fight with the whole world. https://tsn.ua/ru/groshi/izrailskiy-korabl-pervym-prorval-zernovuyu-blokadu-rossii-i-napravlyaetsya-v-ukrainu-smi-2381521.htmlAhaha, I recognize the crooked handwriting of Ukrainian propaganda. There is no and never was any blockade for the Danube, transport grain by land and along the Danube as much as you like, the blockade is only for transportation along the Black Sea. The problem with transportation along the Danube is not in the blockade by Russia, but in its depth, which is insufficient for large bulk carriers. In small river barges - as much as you like, you can even transport grain by plane. |
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Western sanctions are very useful for Russia in the long term and strategically and cause local discomfort in the short term and tactically.
In the case of the grain deal, Russia does not ask for anything, it lists its terms on which the grain deal can be renewed. It seems that Ukraine needs it more than Russia.
If Western sanctions are very beneficial for Russia in the long term, then Russia and the Russian people should just wait until that long term comes and just enjoy the sanctions. At the same time, Russia, it turns out, prevents the early onset of the beneficial effect of the sanctions by unilaterally withdrawing from the grain agreement and demanding that some of the imposed sanctions be lifted for its renewal, such as connecting its Russian Agricultural Bank to SWIFT. Therefore, there are obvious contradictions between the declared usefulness of sanctions in the long term and Russia's actions. Ahaha, "unilaterally withdrawing", "demanding"? LOL I repeat once again, the grain deal is over because the time has come for it to end, it was not open-ended. Russia refused to extend it, because it considered it unprofitable for itself. It does not demand anything, on the contrary, Russia is under pressure to extend the unfavorable agreement for it. And Russia is ready to meet halfway, it does not respond with a categorical refusal - for this, you just need to satisfy a few of its conditions first. This is a normal practice for building mutually beneficial relationships, if you want to get something, you first need to give something. ps Russia has good reason to believe that the humanitarian corridor for the export of grain was also used to supply weapons to Ukraine, which is their misuse. Therefore, Ukraine has no one to blame but itself that the grain deal no longer works. |
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And are you seriously calling for mass targeted killing of civilians at a huge scale towards the end there?
Don't waste your time on this character, this is a walking collection of propaganda clichés. A typical Ukrainian neo-Nazi, with every statement he makes an aggressive anti-advertisement to the Zelensky regime. The only benefit of his statements is that it becomes clear why Ukraine needs denazification. |
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Думаю это типичный сопутствующий ущерб. Или результат работы ПВО. А что похоже на воронку от Калибра или Искандера?
Ты лучше скажи, а с какого перепуга Россия будет добровольно отказываться от своего сильного ассиметричного преимущества в дальнобойном высокоточном ракетном оружии? Может вообще всё оружие отменим и устроим групповой махач в поле на саперных лопатках? Терпите блять, это ещё цветочки - скоро завод Гераней в Татарстане заработает на полную силу и дроны начнут сразу сотнями летать, вот это будет конкретно жесть и эпикфейл для любой системы ПВО. А ты думал в сказку попал? Никто не обещал, что будет легко.
Будем считать это сопутствующим ущербом. А что до остального - так мне условно чем больше крови, тем лучше. Значит больше умрет "пацанов-гопников", и соответственно больше останется в пропорциональном исчислении, ""ботаников". За единицу времени. Конфликт же не будет длиться вечно. Просто я предпочитаю последовательный размеренный геноцид "орков" в пользу "эльфов". А так при твоем подходе Украина быстро получит F-16 с ATACMS, и гештальт будет быстро закрыт. С перерастанием во взаимный обмен ядерными ударами или без, это уже не настолько важно, но как бы при прочих равных не хотелось бы... А ты не задавал себе вопрос, почему Украина до сих пор не получила F-16 с ATACMS? Так я тебе скажу, потому что США это невыгодно. До какого-то момента эскалация конфликта для США выгодна, а потом становится невыгодна. Я же кажется рассказывал уже как-то охуительную историю про системность США и про алгоритм принятия решения этой системы? Она довольно тупо пытается максимизировать соотношение вознаграждение/риск. Так вот, поставки F-16 с ATACMS риски для США заметно увеличивают, а никакого вознаграждения за это даже не обещают. Поэтому США эти поставки саботируют и будут саботировать, так же как и поставки Абрамсов к примеру. Ну понятно же, что если Леопарды обосрались, то и Абрамсы не смогут, только репутацию подпортят. Поэтому не переживай так сильно, неконтролируемого роста эскалации не будет. Просто я подумал что Америка может быть не заинтересована в таком уж геноциде тупых. А значит может закрыть гештальт, поставив ф16, атакмс и бог весть еще чего. Ну сам подумай, разве у них мог бы возникнуть описанный мной по ссылке выше "джихад" умных против тупых? Нет, невозможен имхо. США вполне привыкли править тупыми. Глупой массой. Если критически уменьшить процент тупого населения, их стандарты перестанут работать. Они тупо в перспективе потеряют контроль над территорией как РФ, так и Украины кстати. Конфликт интересов налицо. Так они его уже потеряли, вот и бесятся. Нету никакого джихада, разве что в твоих влажных фантазиях. Идёт типичная игра, у кого крепче нервы, и у кого длиннее скамейка запасных. Украина пытается террористическими атаками вынудить политиков надавить на военных, чтобы те поступились военной целесообразностью и отдали приказ идти в атаку. Получается пока так себе, в смысле вообще не получается. Я думаю у Украины есть ещё примерно месяц, чтобы окончательно раздербанить накопленный за зиму-весну жирок стратегических резервов и остаться с голой жопой перед наступающей осенью-зимой, так и не сумев прорвать линию Фаберже. И ведь заметь - прорыв не самоцель, в него надо будет бросить тот самый стратегический резерв, который сейчас бездарно тратится на тщетные попытки организации прорыва. Короче по всем признакам пиздец котёнку, возможно уже осенью Украине придётся выходить на переговоры и без единого туза в кармане. |
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Думаю это типичный сопутствующий ущерб. Или результат работы ПВО. А что похоже на воронку от Калибра или Искандера?
Ты лучше скажи, а с какого перепуга Россия будет добровольно отказываться от своего сильного ассиметричного преимущества в дальнобойном высокоточном ракетном оружии? Может вообще всё оружие отменим и устроим групповой махач в поле на саперных лопатках? Терпите блять, это ещё цветочки - скоро завод Гераней в Татарстане заработает на полную силу и дроны начнут сразу сотнями летать, вот это будет конкретно жесть и эпикфейл для любой системы ПВО. А ты думал в сказку попал? Никто не обещал, что будет легко.
Будем считать это сопутствующим ущербом. А что до остального - так мне условно чем больше крови, тем лучше. Значит больше умрет "пацанов-гопников", и соответственно больше останется в пропорциональном исчислении, ""ботаников". За единицу времени. Конфликт же не будет длиться вечно. Просто я предпочитаю последовательный размеренный геноцид "орков" в пользу "эльфов". А так при твоем подходе Украина быстро получит F-16 с ATACMS, и гештальт будет быстро закрыт. С перерастанием во взаимный обмен ядерными ударами или без, это уже не настолько важно, но как бы при прочих равных не хотелось бы... А ты не задавал себе вопрос, почему Украина до сих пор не получила F-16 с ATACMS? Так я тебе скажу, потому что США это невыгодно. До какого-то момента эскалация конфликта для США выгодна, а потом становится невыгодна. Я же кажется рассказывал уже как-то охуительную историю про системность США и про алгоритм принятия решения этой системы? Она довольно тупо пытается максимизировать соотношение вознаграждение/риск. Так вот, поставки F-16 с ATACMS риски для США заметно увеличивают, а никакого вознаграждения за это даже не обещают. Поэтому США эти поставки саботируют и будут саботировать, так же как и поставки Абрамсов к примеру. Ну понятно же, что если Леопарды обосрались, то и Абрамсы не смогут, только репутацию подпортят. Поэтому не переживай так сильно, неконтролируемого роста эскалации не будет. |
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Ну хорошо. Исключим из моей ^ формулировки фразу "по границам 1992". Ибо вообще хуярить по гражданской инфраструктуре - это нечестно, имхо. Конечно до того момента, когда начнут маскировать военных под гражданские объекты.
Очень важное уточнение ты сделал. Т.е. когда укры используют гражданские объекты для размещения там складов с вооружением и личного состава ВСУ, или когда "прячут" военную технику в жилых кварталах (используя гражданское население Украины в качестве "живого щита", о чём давно пишут даже западные правозащитники), то хуярить по таким объектам - можно и нужно.Я правильно тебя понял? Нет, неправильно. Можно же хотя бы месяц взаимно не хуярить друг друга по гражданским объектам? Это так сложно? Ясен пень что обе стороны будут маскировать военных под гражданские. Вполне вероятно что через месяц такое решение (не хуярить) понравится обоим сторонам. Сегодняшний Таганрог не считается - вроде как это был разведывательный дрон РФ. На него могли в ответку среагировать поспешно Ps. Кривой Рог - это что вообще? https://t.me/dnepr_operativ/47475Думаю это типичный сопутствующий ущерб. Или результат работы ПВО. А что похоже на воронку от Калибра или Искандера? Ты лучше скажи, а с какого перепуга Россия будет добровольно отказываться от своего сильного ассиметричного преимущества в дальнобойном высокоточном ракетном оружии? Может вообще всё оружие отменим и устроим групповой махач в поле на саперных лопатках? Терпите блять, это ещё цветочки - скоро завод Гераней в Татарстане заработает на полную силу и дроны начнут сразу сотнями летать, вот это будет конкретно жесть и эпикфейл для любой системы ПВО. А ты думал в сказку попал? Никто не обещал, что будет легко. |
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PS You still didn't indicate which ARRANGEMENTS were violated, which is generally expected by 150%  Connecting Rosselkhozbank to SWIFT, unblocking foreign assets and accounts of Russian companies associated with the production and transportation of food and fertilizers, resuming supplies of agricultural machinery and spare parts, as well as restoring the operation of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline. Here is a link to the April statement of the Russian Foreign Ministry on this issue. In a way, I adore you.) As an opponent, of course An opponent who "buries" himself with his answers, and this is not the first time ! Let's analyze your claims and attempts to justify another act of terrorism of Russia. Chronology of actions: 1. Ukraine strikes a military facility built by the occupant country on the territory of Ukraine and designed to deliver military cargo. 2. Russia officially declares its withdrawal from the grain deal and officially declares that now, after the strike on the so-called "Crimean Bridge" (illegally built object, in violation of international agreements, rules, ...), ANY ships going to/from ports (emphasis on the phrase "from Ukrainian ports") of Ukraine will be legitimate targets for destruction, and of course those that ensure the grain deal. 3. You state that the reason is allegedly some violations of some agreements, but you do not cite them. I ask you to specify what was violated by Ukraine? 4. You cite "facts" that took place much earlier than the date of Russia's refusal from the grain deal, and absolutely do not correspond to the OFFICIAL STATEMENT of the Kremlin ! 5. You are also forgetting a couple of facts: - There are no deals between Ukraine and Russia. There are commitments between Ukraine and the UN with Turkey's support. - Russia has violated many treaties, obligations and conventions since 2014. For which it has received sanctions and the Kremlin Fuhrer has been prosecuted. I would love to read your next reply Here you like to turn everything upside down, confuse causes and effects and find a relationship even where there is none. The grain deal did not end because Ukraine attacked the Crimean bridge. And because the grain deal was not open-ended, the date of its completion approached and Russia did not want to renew it - because for the year of the grain deal and several times of its extension, it did not receive any benefit from it. The validity period has expired, and now there is no grain deal. I do not think that Russia has any claims against Ukraine in this regard, rather, there are claims against the UN for its long inaction in the issue of ensuring Russia's interests within the framework of the grain deal. Empty voice calls for the renewal of the grain deal will not have any impact, even if they come from the Pope. Russia is quite consistent in protecting its national interests and does something if it is beneficial for it. The grain deal is unprofitable for Russia, so it has been suspended. If someone wants to resume the grain deal, he should not ask Russia about it, but give Russia what it wants, I have given a wish list for resuming the deal a little higher. I'm tired of repeating the same thing over and over again. It seems to me that there is no point in discussing the resumption of the grain deal, especially since Ukraine seems to have some problems with the infrastructure in the Black Sea ports. Let Ukraine export grain by land or across the Danube, there is no more grain deal. |
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Yes, everything is fine in Russia without SWIFT, and with spare parts for agricultural machinery - and this is clearly seen in the sharp increase in wheat exports from Russia this year. The very concept of a deal means that it is mutually beneficial for all the parties involved, while the grain deal lasted almost a year and Russia did not receive any benefits from it. Therefore, the deal was not extended. If the UN manages to really interest Russia in resuming the deal, it will resume. Russia listed specifically what it could be interested in. That's exactly how it works.
Can you please explain why, if sanctions are beneficial for Russia and bad for the EU, for god's sake, why would Russia ask to have them lifted at all? Since obviously it won't be mutual to all! The EU won't starve as it has done last winter eating frozen hamsters in their frozen Como villa while Russia will just import things it can produce itself thus damaging their economy(.............oh, rolf, I need like 5000 breaths after laughing my ass out typing this), so again, why in all gods in the universe would they want that? Western sanctions are very useful for Russia in the long term and strategically and cause local discomfort in the short term and tactically. In the case of the grain deal, Russia does not ask for anything, it lists its terms on which the grain deal can be renewed. It seems that Ukraine needs it more than Russia. |
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PS You still didn't indicate which ARRANGEMENTS were violated, which is generally expected by 150% unblocking foreign assets and accounts of Russian companies associated with the production and transportation of food and fertilizers, res uming supplies of agricultural machinery and spare parts, as well as restoring the operation of the Togliatti-Odessa ammonia pipeline.. But, but, but, I was told by eggxperts like you and pooya87 that - The rest of the world doesn't need SWIFT as it's just garbage - You already get paid in rubles so what would change as you obviously have accepted payments in rubles for gas - Russia can produce everything for itself so it doesn't need Western machines, spare parts, planes, cars, It might be possible that all were lies and you even need to import sarcasm cause I have like extra two tons around here ready to be shipped Now unrelated to the above delusional case, there won't be any problem with food, well, at least not in Europe! I've just landed home, opened a few hours ago the local forums , whatapp communities, to do a little research for my parents and...scheisse 6.9 tons/ha , HLM 81 (this is the maximum we get in our region), and the price on-site is 150-175 euros (harvested and dumped in the silo!) We're looking at simply record crop, not sore about corn but wheat, sunflower, rapeseed and beets are through the roof, pretty sure next year we're going to have way lower production as every farmer thinks of moving to some other crops, wheat and corn and barley simply are not helping. With meat let's see if the exports keep going, China is gobbling pork meat as crazy there is almost nobody in the whole region with the capacity to spare, the 5 million mt will be broken without a sweat, 57carcass is now 2.50E from 1.95 before covid broke in 2019, so around 25%. But if they stop their imports it's going to go below 2 euros again! For Africa? Well, that's a different story! One about picking the wrong side! Yes, everything is fine in Russia without SWIFT, and with spare parts for agricultural machinery - and this is clearly seen in the sharp increase in wheat exports from Russia this year. The very concept of a deal means that it is mutually beneficial for all the parties involved, while the grain deal lasted almost a year and Russia did not receive any benefits from it. Therefore, the deal was not extended. If the UN manages to really interest Russia in resuming the deal, it will resume. Russia listed specifically what it could be interested in. That's exactly how it works. You can keep your sarcasm to yourself. Although you probably already have a stomach ulcer from this level of sarcasm, but I don’t need it. |
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i don't understand why people in 2023 feel that they need to go into a war, its very bad respect to the soliders that die. no young human should need to die because two old men cant get along. no one.
Пoтoмy чтo этo нe люди, этo pyccкиe. I don't understand what you said but it seems you speak Russia so I think you know more about this then me, i respect that, sorry if i said somehting wrong. He didn't contradict you and you did not say anything wrong. A sentence in Russian doesn't mean a person speaks Russian. Put it in a translator and you'll see what that sentence means. Hello, yes I did use google translate, but sometimes it can be wrong anyway. It said "Because they are Russians" and I did not exaclty understand how to take it, maybe it was "Because they are russians and russians are bad people" or "Because they are russians and russians don't let anyone push them down".. My english is also not hundred procent perfect. i hope you understand I don't mean to offence anyone. Thanks Alik said that Russians are not humans. This is a typical propaganda trick to dehumanize one's ideological enemy, which is often used by radical nationalists in their practice. Simply put, the author of the topic is a Nazi and does not hide it. |
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