my problem with the cloak instamine was that they mined the total initial coin supply (4.5m) in 7 days and went to a highly inflationary 6% POS reward. this unfairly gave all the coins that could ever be mined to a very small group of people who then staked it @ a whooping 6% and controlled the supply. i knew that type of distribution model was doomed to fail.
I'm pretty sure the masternode PoS rewards rate is higher than 6% and certainly was much higher when the number of masternodes was lower. i hope you are just trolling and playing dumb. unlike cloak not all the coins were mined in the first 7 days. we still have millions of pow coins to balance things out and keep things fair. troll harder next time, or better yet work on an official gui. over half your coin supply is mined and y'all still don't have a official gui, lol. and you call yourself a dev, pathetic. start deving and quit trolling. Get the facts right at least. The millions of PoW Dash coins won't be mined for hundreds of years. - Coins will cease to be generated near the year 2300
In the same 200 years, the Monero 0.3/minute tail reward will produce about 31 556 736 coins, meaning more than "half [the] coin supply" is not mined. In fact, at some point Monero becomes slower than Bitcoin, and slower than Dash for that matter. (Graphs showing the double intersection with Bitcoin were posted, maybe someone else has a link to that.) You're still welcome in the Monero community now that you are properly informed it has the kind of slow and fair distribution that you like.
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I'm not sure your point but I included the second line because it made the point about not knowing what is going on in the wider community. I've never been heavily involved with GPU mining but I had heard for openrigs.
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Due to the nature of new technology and what we've seen with cryptocurrencies - if you can't handle the price swings, you shouldn't be in it; period.
Stop whining like little bitches.
Just my opinion.
You are prob quite the bitch if your coin of choice drops 90%. Just saying. It is down 90% from where it was during a very brief pump right before the revelation of the 'whale digger'. I find the timing of that pump a bit suspicious, but regardless, that's not at all what most people have paid for their CLAMS. For most of the past year it traded around half that price so it is down 80% not 90%. Still a lot though.
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Updated pool balance and transactions above.
EDIT: There was a small error in the starting balance which I have now corrected.
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Why monero was a scam? Will read thread carefully later.
in a nutshell it's because there were some instaminers at early stage akin to nxt, but with a less worse impact than nxt it was not launched so transparently, let's say this That is a plain misinformation, it was never "instamined", the emission curve worked out pretty perfect, due to difficulty adjustments after every block. Perfect is even an understatement. It was damn near clockwork. The first 5 blocks were instamined at low difficulty but the 6th block had difficulty that overshot high a bit and perhaps some bad luck causing a 5 minute delay. After about 5 minutes there were 6 blocks mined. The comparison to Nxt is absurd anyway, that was 100% ICO.
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my problem with the cloak instamine was that they mined the total initial coin supply (4.5m) in 7 days and went to a highly inflationary 6% POS reward. this unfairly gave all the coins that could ever be mined to a very small group of people who then staked it @ a whooping 6% and controlled the supply. i knew that type of distribution model was doomed to fail.
I'm pretty sure the masternode PoS rewards rate is higher than 6% and certainly was much higher when the number of masternodes was lower.
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According to the Dash anti-criticism brigade, anyone who is critical about anything related to Dash is a troll who is trolling. Especially core team members who are secretly from Finland and living in a castle. Sorry you're not suitably indulged, but in case you hadn't noticed, this is probably the most open thread on the whole of bitcointalk. Unlike your own where censoring "off-topic posts" is "de rigueur". You're either confused or poorly informed (or both). There is a 100% open unmoderated Monero ANN thread (still subject to forum rules of course): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0There is also a moderated Dash price and trading thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1233119.0
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Zerocoin's likely gonna be more bloated than XMR is. You hope! LOL, you better fucking hope as well And what do you base your idea on? Hopes and dreams because you hate XMR? Get your head out of your ass - just because a few supporters hate DASH doesn't mean the coin is bad. Hey...you are that guy who had that super-optimised Vertminer, and refused to share it with the community, aren't you? I don't like you at all. I don't hate XMR. But what I dfo hate is when malicious trolls infect the threads of what they see a their competitor coins. Everybody who is into crypto should be working together for the ultimate success of crypto itself, not stabbing each other in the back, which is what you guys seems to think is necessary. I still have one for v2, what's it to you? Besides, I hate it when they do so, as well - you say "you guys" like XMR is full of these people. It's not. It's the assholes that are the loudest, is all. no one in the 'core' leadership has come out and distanced themselves from the trolling, they have taken part in it..... I haven't seen smooth or fluffypony or the others constantly coming here and saying the same shit. iCEBREAKER and dnalor, yeah, maybe. According to the Dash anti-criticism brigade, anyone who is critical about anything related to Dash is a troll who is trolling. Especially core team members who are secretly from Finland and living in a castle.
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When he's done selling, someone else will (eventually) start. There are another 14 million or so undug CLAMs out there.
Yes of course there are. Was that information missing from the OP when you decided to support it? No, it has always been known. My point is that even though this particular digger claims to only have another 250k CLAMs to dump there's no reason to believe that's the end of the dumping. You took my quote out of context. I've re-added the context above. Your context is pointless. No one would claim that selling would ever stop. Selling and buying will continue as long as the coin exists. There is nothing happening now or in the future that wasn't reasonably foreseeable. If you don't like this coin, create a new one. It is not too late to do that.
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The developers gave a fixed amount of CLAM to every funded BTC, LTC, DOGE address thinking that that was the fairest way of doing things. This seems like a straw man. Maybe they thought it was the "fairest" way to do things but that seems somewhat implausible. Does "fairest" even exist? More likely they thought it was a way to distribute coins to a very wide swath of the cryptocurrency community. I doubt seriously anyone believed that some participants with very large numbers of addresses wouldn't exist, but by distributing to every non-dust address that meant that at least some meaningful number of coins was being distributed to each of a huge number of participants. If they did believe there wouldn't be people with many addresses, well I guess you can't deny stupidity.
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I heard a rumor that monero.net was 100% core devs payout fee.
Can anybody say what does happen with monero.net? Things seem suspicious...
I'm not sure what you mean by 100% core devs payout fee. Donations maybe? As far as I know no core team member has been directly involved with any pool. I don't know what happened to monero.net.
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It hired someone to 'clean up the code'.
That is one small crowdfunded project, responsible for maybe a half dozen commits, not at all core to the 1200+ commits.
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Are the accusations about a solo miner raping XMR true?
The facts are here: http://da-data.blogspot.com/2014/08/minting-money-with-monero-and-cpu.html (also read the comments from the author of the post including his response to Vitalik's ignorant attack) The correct summary of those facts are in my post above. The spin from Dash folks such as MasterMined170 is mostly false. The thread, by the way was created by Bytecoin scammers, as part of their now-well-documented effort to attack Monero in the summer of 2014 and pull community support back to Bytecoin, which of course failed (see CoinTelegraph revelations, etc.). Nearly everything in the OP is false or unsupported. For example, come-from-above was never an XMR whale (probably never had any at all) and never donated 5000 XMR to the GUI wallet. The GUI wallet bounty thread is here, including the list of actual donations. I know it is correct since I administered the bounty. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589561.0
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There are another 14 million or so undug CLAMs out there.
Yes of course there are. Was that information missing from the OP when you decided to support it?
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to try and minimize the cripplemine by using "current coin supply" LOL that you think that is minimizing. We could use the total supply after 200 years like you are doing for Dash in which case the so called cripple mine is more like 1%
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Seriously ... is FCN still alive? I own a few, so it would be cool if it was, but there's been no activity here for months ... crypto never ceases to amaze though lol Is smooth involved? I've never been involved with FCN, although I've mined some of it. I have no idea if it is still alive. I would assume so since the block explorers at minergate and chainradar still show it.
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some more monero launch info.... Two points:
a) It's becoming obvious that the Monero trolls live in a glass house. Monero had its own issuance problems, with one guy receiving between 50% and 90% of all the coins in the first three months. Is it the current Monero team's fault? No, probably not. They inherited the broken miner and fixed it as soon as they were able. Did it ultimately affect the early distribution of the coin? Yes.
Let's not let facts get in the way: By the time I got into it, developer "NoodleDoodle" (hey, this is crypto, people can pick whatever names they want -- Satoshi Nakamoto?) had already untwisted the first "de-optimization" with the AES encryption key. By the 14th of May, we were 45% of the total hashing power on the coin. .. I think we exceeded 60% of the net hash of the coin at a few points In the end, our game continued into July -- almost two months We spent over a quarter of a million dollars renting cloud compute time I don't personally own any, nor do I hold any Bitcoin - I mine and sell for the most part, to minimize my risk exposure. Summary: 1. NoodleDoodle's commit was May 7, so the start of dga's mining was after May 7, or 19 days after launch. We know his hash rate reached 4045% by May 14, or 26 days after launch. i.e. during most of the first month he wasn't mining at all. 2. Clearly his hash rate was below 50% for much of the time and only rarely (and not even with certainty) above 60%. There is no evidence it ever reached anything close to 90%, and certainly it wasn't close to that for any consistent period. 3. "Almost" two months, not three months. 4. He kept none of it. This allows us to narrow down the maximum amount of coins mined by dga and his backers pretty closely: Months 2-3 total coins mined was 1.37 million. Their likely overall share of roughly 50% makes that 685k. It could have been a little higher but we know from the above quote that they mined for less than two months so this seems a reasonable estimate. Which comes to right around 6.85% of the current supply. If anyone thinks that a group of large miners and smart coders spending >$250K (plus a lot of coding work) to mine and sell 6.85% of the current supply during the second and third months of a coin launch is a disaster, then yes you should stay away from Monero.
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That's true, but I don't think it's their responsibility to do so. They make the coin available to us, and we are free to use it how we like. I found the coin and decided to use it at Just-Dice. The client wasn't in a state that worked for me, so I made a bunch of changes to it to make it work how I needed it to work, and contributed those changes back to the open source codebase. That's how it's meant to work - provide the services you want to see, and don't wait for "people at the high levels" to do it for you. In fact there are no "levels" - you're free to use and build CLAM however you like.
My tone on this page and the last may seem more antagonistic than it really is, doog, but this is typical open source rhetoric - we're not all coders. That's hardly the point. He contributed code back but other people can contribute in other ways. A lot of marketing and trying to convince sites to support a coin can be done by anyone. In fact it is often more effective if it comes from many grass roots supporters than from a few coin developers.
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