Hi all

This is to let you all know that we're moving discussion to Slack. You can keep up with Blocknet-related news there.

The Blocknet's Slack channels are community-moderated. No doubt many of you will be excited about the decentralised nature of this.

You can expect Infinitechaos, a community member, to post an invitation form here before long.


Regarding our progress, legal preparations have taken longer than expected; as such we're a little behind schedule.

We do, however, have a prototype. But we also have an alternative that should allow us to leapfrog our own timeline somewhat, which is exciting. (This is why the Github repo has been renamed to "XBridge-old.") Once we're ready, you'll hear about it.

Thirdly we're in the process of expanding the developers' environment so that multiple devs can work across a multi-platform app‏. This is partially what's taking up our time.

Thanks for your ongoing support. See you on Slack!

Let's say it's only as difficult a situation as the investors make it. :-)

Speaking of which, how about we deprecate the Blocknet's presence on Bitcointalk and move to something like Slack? This environment is toxic; dominated by poop 'n scoop scammers; time to leave.

Interesting how things look when the intention to twist words is taken away.

Did you wilfully forget the words "preliminary and subject to revision"?

No, shills are not welcome here. Other opinions most definitely are.

Did you misread my post? Seems so.

Stop painting this thread with that thin rhetoric about offering a "civil and logical discussion" when your posts here are anything but that. They come across as an underhanded attempt to devalue the Blocknet. You do not come across as a person open to the views of others and inviting discussion; you come across as a person keen to push his view onto others.

As for you other guys wanting news, it's a Sunday. Why ask when people are taking a weekend?

_mr_e, shills are not welcome here.

Just contact a coin rep. It's not like you have to prove ownership of coins first.

If you don't want to work with the people involved in order to shape the Blocknet the way you'd hope it to be, then just leave. There's no sense in fussing over stuff here. Get involved.

That's precisely the opposite of what I said.

Read it again: you have a voice; speak to your coin representative so your view can be tabled and brought up.

A Coin Representative's function is to stand for the interest of their communities and dev teams.

Furthermore if CoinGateway receives word from Coin Representatives that there are concerns or complaints about a proposed action by the board, then their responsibility is to refuse to sign the relevant transaction until the concern or complaint is successfully resolved.

Read about the process here: http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Multisig_Escrow_of_Funds
(And if you want to suggest amendments to the process itself, you know what to do.)

The incipient Foundation - i.e. the coin representatives - meet on roughly a weekly basis.

Last week it was decided that some expenses needed to be paid in advance of the Foundation being formalised.

If you're not happy with either:
- the degree of information provided about expenditures
- the expenditures themselves,

then take it up with your Coin Representative. Perhaps in future we'll give more details on expenditures - that is, if there's a majority vote for this.

Let's approach this as a community and in an orderly, productive fashion.

If you want things to work your way, you'll need to communicate this in such a way that the necessary people hear it. So speak to your Coin Representatives and let's get this thing going.

Whatever Reebokass's intentions, the effect of his actions is to come across as a troll.

A longtime XC troll.

Like you Pookie.

Now stop looking for FUD-fodder and go away.

http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Record_of_Accounts

Join Slack. Bitcointalk is hostile to constructive conversation.

You, Reebokass, have not kept our agreement that you'd stop posting negative, whiny remarks.

As a result you will not get any constructive replies from me.

Stop being such a mopey whiner and look up Dan's posts yourself.

Hi PaidFudder.

You're banned.

Don't post here again.

No, but this thread is being deprecated due to lack of confidence in Bitcointalk.

Non-trolls are welcome to join XCurrency on Slack.

The rest of you poop 'n scoop scammers can get lost.

No idea who crispyzeal is, but Blocknet-related work is happening here: https://github.com/atcsecure?tab=repositories

Anyone having an issue should get onto the Troubleshooting thread in XCurrency's Slack. Seems to be sorted.

Evening all

Just to let you know that we'll be maintaining a record of accounts for the Blocknet here: http://wiki.blocknet.co/index.php/Record_of_Accounts.

[replying on xctalk...]

http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/236-intro/page-2#entry1685

Thanks infinitechaos - much appreciated, and no hard feelings. The tipping point wasn't your post fortunately. ;-)


What tipped me over was something more... structural.

As the smear campaign was unfolding I saw that its success would depend entirely on the community's collective ability to read it for what it was - some internet trash contrived (pretty cleverly) to distort a bunch of facts into a very ugly-looking picture.

Accordingly I urged the community repeatedly to just dismiss it.

Unfortunately I realised that in the past months I'd enabled a strong dependency upon - and expectation that - I'd provide information, explanations, support, and that as a result there was simply no way in which people were going to be able to just dismiss the smear campaign's claims and move on.

And this meant becoming answerable to a bunch of reprehensible trolls and getting dragged head-first through a disgusting pile of filth, for weeks.

In other words, they had us. We lost. They were able to leverage a dependency-relationship to incite an insatiable public demand that their claims be engaged with.

This is what changed my perspective. I no longer have faith in Bitcointalk, a forum that allows poop-and-scoop scammers to run rampant and destroy the value of months and months of hard work.

I also saw the urgent need to dismantle the dependence in this community for continuous information. It's a major weakness.

We simply must be more independent in our assessments of XC's health.

Yes this stuff is very energising and does all of us a lot of good.

The trick is that if by getting passionate about XC we don't thereby get super-negative when it goes through a rough patch. [My opinion: don't depend on the team too much for info and support. It doesn't improve XC's price or the community's health.]


Thank you Driv3n. That means a whole lot.

At heart engaging with a community is inextricable from the environment we engage in. The smear campaign brought home how toxic Bitcointalk is as an environment. How to engage a community in such an environment? I don't know. It's been very hard.

I suppose I didn't consider in advance how a FUD attack might problematize a relation between a team and a community. But it did; this is the most long-lasting damage it's done really. We do need to engage, and positively. I've just lost faith in our medium for engagement.