A little pre-emptive announcement: A group of Bitcointalk users have modified (or perhaps completely invented) some IRC chat logs and screenshots in order to spread FUD about the Blocknet and XC. It's incredibly easy to create a "record" of any purported conversation you want and present it as fact. However such logs are not provably truthful, and in this case are false and clearly are posted with malicious intent. Dan's identity is public and he has staked his personal reputation upon his public conduct and upon XC. Dan has delivered - and overdelivered - on XC's tech for five months without fault. XC's timeline is testament to this. And if Dan delivers (notably in the absence of any pumps on XC), then he is not out to scam people out of their money. Pertaining to some equally vacuous FUD claims: XC's premine was never dumped, but has been spent entirely on development. Together with Dan's personal funds, it has funded XC's development. On a final note, the collaborative spirit that inspired the Blocknet has led Dan to collaborate on a number of projects. He has openly stated in advance his collaboration (on a freelance basis) with every coin that he has worked with. This has been done candidly and Dan has nothing to hide regarding his collaborations. (In fact, there's reason to be proud of the big-mindedness of rising above petty competition to benefit crypto as a whole.) Dude stop it, "ethicise the market".  Is it you Mr. Taaki? He sounds like you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU2a4AfleTE Come speak in tv like that please^ is me. |
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You mean these?
Ha ha. Yup. |
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A little pre-emptive announcement: A group of Bitcointalk users have modified (or perhaps completely invented) some IRC chat logs and screenshots in order to spread FUD about the Blocknet and XC. It's incredibly easy to create a "record" of any purported conversation you want and present it as fact. However such logs are not provably truthful, and in this case are false and clearly are posted with malicious intent. Dan's identity is public and he has staked his personal reputation upon his public conduct and upon XC. Dan has delivered - and overdelivered - on XC's tech for five months without fault. XC's timeline is testament to this. And if Dan delivers (notably in the absence of any pumps on XC), then he is not out to scam people out of their money. Pertaining to some equally vacuous FUD claims: XC's premine was never dumped, but has been spent entirely on development. Together with Dan's personal funds, it has funded XC's development. On a final note, the collaborative spirit that inspired the Blocknet has led Dan to collaborate on a number of projects. He has openly stated in advance his collaboration (on a freelance basis) with every coin that he has worked with. This has been done candidly and Dan has nothing to hide regarding his collaborations. (In fact, there's reason to be proud of the big-mindedness of rising above petty competition to benefit crypto as a whole.) |
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A little pre-emptive announcement: A group of Bitcointalk users have modified (or perhaps completely invented) some IRC chat logs and screenshots in order to spread FUD about the Blocknet and XC. It's incredibly easy to create a "record" of any purported conversation you want and present it as fact. However such logs are not provably truthful, and in this case are false and clearly are posted with malicious intent. Dan's identity is public and he has staked his personal reputation upon his public conduct and upon XC. Dan has delivered - and overdelivered - on XC's tech for five months without fault. XC's timeline is testament to this. And if Dan delivers (notably in the absence of any pumps on XC), then he is not out to scam people out of their money. Pertaining to some equally vacuous FUD claims: XC's premine was never dumped, but has been spent entirely on development. Together with Dan's personal funds, it has funded XC's development. On a final note, the collaborative spirit that inspired the Blocknet has led Dan to collaborate on a number of projects. He has openly stated in advance his collaboration (on a freelance basis) with every coin that he has worked with. This has been done candidly and Dan has nothing to hide regarding his collaborations. (In fact, there's reason to be proud of the big-mindedness of rising above petty competition to benefit crypto as a whole.) |
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Thanks for the umm... interesting conspiracy theory there.
Sorry, forgot your username.
Heads up everyone, FUD incoming.
Looks like someone's figured out how to doctor screenshots and create pastebins.
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The primary reason your (tylerderden and unicornfarts) posts were deleted earlier is the way your opinions were presented.
It's one thing to present an opinion.
It's another to bash people over the head with it. A community must be addressed with civility and respect if you hope to be heard. Unless you speak to people with their perspective in mind - and thus with empathy - your posts will get deleted.
- Emotively loaded terms,
- Unsubstantiated claims that aim to discredit a project,
- and posts that abuse or attack people,
are various ways in which a primary lack of empathy is played out.
Please take this to heart for the future. You're very welcome to be members of this community, but not on just any terms.
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I agree wholeheartedly that some people on this thread subject us to an absurd amount of paranoid, nickpicking demands.
It would make everyone's lives easier if the habit changed.
The amount of PR I could get done without Bitcointalk threads would be staggering.
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed. why ? Everyone knows what a PR guy should be paid (industry standard), so unless your embarrassed by the amount in some way, just state it. It is an industry standard rate, but out of pure personal preference (personality type, whatever...) I prefer to keep my salary a personal matter. Privacy is important to all of us. Here more than anywhere. |
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You cant claim you are funding a project out of your own pocket and then fund the project with a coins premine. No amount of wordplay or anything else will change any of this. No such claim was made. We claimed to have part-funded the project with the premine. Read the statement earlier. What you attribute to wordplay on our part is, in fact, lack of comprehension on your part. (Do you understand why 95% of your posts get deleted? You pay scant attention to the facts of a matter.) |
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You promised open accounting of funds and your PR guy is saying he isnt sure if he wants people to know he is being paid?
No, I'm saying I'm not sure I'm comfortable with people knowing the *amount*. I'm quite comfortable with people knowing *that* I'm employed. |
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Synechist...curious what your BLOCK salary is? Let's make that public so we don't have another XC fiasco on our hands.
I have not been paid by the Blocknet. I've been paid by XC, in XC only (well, in BTC twice if I remember correctly). I am asking what you WILL be paid so we know before you're paid and not told when funds have been all spent... Nothing has been decided. If I am officially put on the Blocknet payroll, this will be announced. On the other hand, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with my salary becoming public knowledge, so perhaps that won't be disclosed. My work for the Blocknet has been purely on a volunteer basis so far. You guys promised us that bookkeeping of the funds would be open and on the blockchain, so unless you guys plan on breaking that promise, all expenditures that happen from the ITO funds will be public knowledge anyway. Which shouldn't be a bad thing, keeps everything as honnest as it possibly can.  Transparency is necessary if you do such a projekt. I totally agree with your points and hope this will be solved here soon. Yes, you're right, and all spending will be recorded on the blockchain. No question of that. On the other hand it could make sense in terms of the privacy of devs for, say, coins to be taken from the funds in larger batches allocated to, say, a given release. From there, payments to individuals could be kept private, while the amount used for a given release will still be publicly disclosed. How does that sound? |
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Sorry, I think I just deleted someone's post by mistake.
(This wasn't yours, Tylerdurden.)
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Why can I not trade BLOCK on BTER now?
Because we're having an ITO. There's no trading during ITOs. |
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- Specifically, XC's funding comes from Dan's corporation, which has pioneered IP over RF in marine environments.
If you want to bring up Dan's corporation in an official statement and mention that it funds XC development then there should not be a problem naming that corporation, right? If XC is official as the name suggests and everything is legit then transparency shouldn't be an issue. Clear information helps investors make sound decisions. It's ATC Corp. |
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I think it's really important for the dev to be here on the day trading starts or releasing something regarding Blocknet to give a positive start of trading and supporting the price.
We plan a few updates during the ITO actually. ;-) |
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XC has got to be the most FUDed coin in all of crypto. Seriously...  Even some of you who have been here for awhile don't know which way is which any longer. If I were a whale or market maker of sorts and wanted to manipulate/profit from the market, I would have manipulated you all into behaving exactly as you are right now. Divide and conquer. Divide...and conquer. Make no mistake, someone is going to profit huge from all of this FUD and the resulting market volatility. Might I remind you all that Dan plans to incorporate XC next year? This is his incentive. Fuck the premine. XC is on a level beyond what the rest of crypto can comprehend. Synechist, you look like you need a hand deflecting all this, but you're doing a wonderful job by yourself. Wish I could be around more to help deflect some of the babble in here. Thanks for the perspective there - and the compliment. I agree with your analysis, for what it's worth. |
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Nagger06, your post was deleted for having contained no substantiation for your claim.
Insinuations need to be argued, not baldly asserted.
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I don't care about blocknet. I want to know why does it even exist. Any feature you can add to blocknet can be added directly to XC.
Generating revenue through fees is a pipedream. How are we supposed to believe in small fees when XC is consistently losing massive value? We need a stable currency first. And I don't see how blocknet helps us get there at all. Maybe it's useful. If it just involves borrowing other coins' features I don't see the use. Any coin can add any feature it wants. It would be much more preferable to have one coin with all the features of the other coins.
Let's talk about this in the Blocknet thread. It's not true that any feature you can add to blocknet can be added directly to XC. The pipedream is the belief that features are going to make a crypto currency stable. Let's get this straight right now, the only feature that will make any crypto stable is demand to use it for something other than holding for price appreciation. The demand to use it is the only feature that will change the crypto environment to anything other than a trading game. The crypto that solves this puzzle wins and none are close yet. Hmm... stay tuned. (We've been dead-set on the objective of real-world usability from the beginning. Something new is coming.) We don't want something new. We want the features you say are working to actually work on all platforms. Also...you may of missed my questioning... What is the name of Dan's corporation? Can you break down how the pre-mine was spent on the projects you mention? The Reddit thread said this would be done during the spending process but that did not happen. Now you have an opportunity to correct this. Apologies for not responding to this. I messaged Dan to ask whether he'd like to respond, but I haven't heard back yet. I think it should be him who discloses this. I don't have the relevant info anyway regarding spending. |
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Synechist...curious what your BLOCK salary is? Let's make that public so we don't have another XC fiasco on our hands.
I have not been paid by the Blocknet. I've been paid by XC, in XC only (well, in BTC twice if I remember correctly). I am asking what you WILL be paid so we know before you're paid and not told when funds have been all spent... Nothing has been decided. If I am officially put on the Blocknet payroll, this will be announced. On the other hand, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with my salary becoming public knowledge, so perhaps that won't be disclosed. My work for the Blocknet has been purely on a volunteer basis so far. |
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Just wanted to confirm that I am staking (as normal) a few hours left for my next staking reward.  So what's the plan regarding the extra blocknet tokens generated while staking? Will we keep them? or will deducted at the end? Either we do keep them or not I will contribute to the network, keeping my wallet running. We will delete a quantity of BLOCK equal to whatever people earn from staking. So the end result will be 10m coins. How will you do this deletion? If 10m BLOCKs are sold and people stake, there will be more than 10m BLOCKs in investors' hands. How can you take away BLOCKs from investors? We won't. What I've heard from Dan is that the plan is to burn coins in our possession. We too are buying at the ITO as individuals. Sorry, but this does not make any sense ! You and Dan are ready to burn the extra coins from what you have got ! Not me, Dan. |
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