Isn't monero getting dropped left and right from exchanges? Guess the "privacy and anonymity" that it offers couldn't work to its advantage huh.
Yes, but this is exactly the reason CEXs don't like Monero. Its anonymity and privacy is a threat for them, because they can't censor it and they can't have any control over it in case any central authority (i.e. government, bank etc) ask for it. So, to comply with their rules, CEXs have to ignore Monero. It is by default, too good for us, too bad for them. Binance, Kraken, KuCoin still list it: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/#MarketsEven if they delist it, they can do nothing about DEX bridges. As a privacy coin it only complete a Internal transcation which is not possible publicly track like another crypto coins/tokens. but bitcoin is totally decentralised coin and it has more privacy then Monero. also bitcoin has decentralised wallet which is not possible to hack. so it doesn’t matter how internal transcation complete Monero coin bitcoin will always a strong secure coin then Monero Excuse me? Are you a ChatGPT bot or what? 
As a privacy coin it only complete a Internal transcation which is not possible publicly track like another crypto coins/tokens. but bitcoin is totally decentralised coin and it has more privacy then Monero. also bitcoin has decentralised wallet which is not possible to hack. so it doesn’t matter how internal transcation complete Monero coin bitcoin will always a strong secure coin then Monero
Are you saying "then" or "than"? Bitcoin is not as private as monero is. Monero offers anonymity, whereas Bitcoin offers pseudonymity. As far is decentralisation is concerned, then it is very difficult to calculate which one is more decentralised. Bitcoin is huge compared to XMR. I'd argue Monero's decentralization is pretty good, since anyone with a CPU can contribute to the network's security (much like during BTC's early days). Not everyone has an ASIC though... |
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Full anonymity on the internet is a no go . If three letter agencies decide to track you down , you are doomed . Sure, it's not easy, but care to explain how Satoshi's identity still remains a secret 15+ years after BTC's announcement/whitepaper? You fail to understand that you are not the all seeing eye . That you or i don't know who satoshi is , doesn't mean that satoshi's identity isn't known to everyone . Who are the ones that know it ? If i had to guess , people close to him that are good in keeping secrets . Oh , and of course three letter agencies , if an order to find him was given at some point . And three-letter agencies have done absolutely nothing regarding Satoshi during the last 15 years because...? |
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"Valid" points indeed, zero personal bullshit:
I did not say he brings nothing but valid points, so not sure what are you trying to do here, there valid points, and I summarized some of them in my previous post, do you have any actual argument against them? Can you you put HmmMAA on ignore so none of his posts show to you and then explain why you called us big blockers and how can you counter our arguments? HmmMAA doesn't give a shit about BTC, his "interest" (concern trolling at its finest) regarding BTC censorship is 100% fake. In fact he loves it and would love it even more if BTC was destroyed. But sure, you can listen to him if you want... ps: I never called you a big blocker. Learn to read more carefully: Because big blockers hate him and they have to "remind" us that he's a religious fanatic and/or dog-cat eater. And yet, you felt "offended" somehow... I'm only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand. |
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You must be new here if you don't know why HmmMAA visits this thread.
Yes indeed, I am indded new here, 6 years in the mining section does not make me old by any measure, but then I don't care why HmmMAA or anyone else comes to post here, all I read is their "content", and he brings valid points which you need to counter with valid points instead of personal b.s"Valid" points indeed, zero personal bullshit: Care to explain why should we care about Luke's eating habits? |
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Because big blockers
You must be new here, big blockers are next door, in the altcoin section. You must be new here if you don't know why HmmMAA visits this thread... he's a BSV fanatic and he's going to attack everyone (character assassination) who doesn't support big blocks. |
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Because big blockers hate him and they have to "remind" us that he's a religious fanatic and/or dog-cat eater. People hate Luke for do many reasons that I have completely lost count. Frankly I don't even remember what he did in the block size wars time. Probably his stance wasn't as remarkable. But most points in have heard against him date to years even before that, like more than 10 years ago. Idk but people still in the Bitcoin community seem to have some long standing interpersonal hatred, it's kinda odd to observe tbh. It's not that strange TBH... ever been involved in other communities/fora? Linux distro wars (i.e. Ubuntu vs Debian = which one is the "true" GNU/Linux?) are not all that different compared to block size wars. Human nature/psychology (deeply tribal) is always the same. "My tribe is better than your tribe"But most people here are IT-focused, so it's understandable that they don't know much about human psychology traits. |
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Every time something Luke talks about is brought up people will have to remind everyone of his religion.
Why? We are not in a Christian or religious debate forum. Literally nobody should care about this.
The discussion on how inscriptions abuse bugs in Bitcoin code is a very serious discussion on its own and whoever conflates it with irrelevant points and assassinations of character is actively doing a disservice to bitcoin's future.
And like, ok, I get that some people here have conflicting interests like for example someone running a competing pool to Luke' OCEAN now... But for Bitcoin users? Increasing bitcoin's transactional utility is literally good for everyone.
Because big blockers hate him and they have to "remind" us that he's a religious fanatic and/or dog-cat eater. «Άμα θέλω να σε βρίσω, 1000 αφορμές σου βρίσκω» |
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Full anonymity on the internet is a no go . If three letter agencies decide to track you down , you are doomed . Sure, it's not easy, but care to explain how Satoshi's identity still remains a secret 15+ years after BTC's announcement/whitepaper? default, zero effort anonymity online is a no go people actually have to put in personal effort to disguise themselves. this includes learning what agencies look for to then know what to evade doing EG if they are now particularly interested in watching users of mixers.. dont use mixers, because using them you will be on a watch list i would not be surprised if theymos had been contacted by monitoring services to pass them metadata* about forum users whom overtly advertise mixing *ip addresses, geo locations, sign up email addresses, session data, etc https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.phpThis still doesn't answer my question regarding Satoshi's secret identity... I never said he used mixers or gmail/hotmail or his real IP (Tor exists for a reason). |
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IMHO, it was a mistake on Satoshi's part designing Bitcoin is such a way to also include arbitrary data (i.e. the bank bailout message), not just financial transactions.
If I had it my way, BTC's blockchain would store ONLY financial transactions (this is possible with Mimblewimble which makes the blockchain very lightweight, i.e. BEAM, GRIN) and there would be a separate, optional blockchain (sidechain if you will) to store text messages, photos, audio files, videos (even DVD movies) etc.
Unfortunately it's too late to do that, nobody will accept a hard fork.
Damn , that satoshi dude is such a braindead ignorant , he should have ask advise from cryptosize how network should be coded . If we consider that cryptosize knew about bitcoin since 2003 it was a great opportunity to have a network as the mastermind wants it to be . What a clown  . HmmMAA is a butthurt BSV fanatic/big blocker, don't mind him... |
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Repeat after me: My censorship is good, yours is bad! Unfortunately BTC cannot fix the flawed human nature/psychology (hypocrisy/double standards). |
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Full anonymity on the internet is a no go . If three letter agencies decide to track you down , you are doomed . Sure, it's not easy, but care to explain how Satoshi's identity still remains a secret 15+ years after BTC's announcement/whitepaper? |
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But it's a prime example of why trying to ban ordinals is a mistake. You will absolutely end up banning other legitimate use cases, while the ordinals can easily move their arbitrary data to elsewhere where it is impossible to ban. IMHO, it was a mistake on Satoshi's part designing Bitcoin is such a way to also include arbitrary data (i.e. the bank bailout message), not just financial transactions. If I had it my way, BTC's blockchain would store ONLY financial transactions (this is possible with Mimblewimble which makes the blockchain very lightweight, i.e. BEAM, GRIN) and there would be a separate, optional blockchain (sidechain if you will) to store text messages, photos, audio files, videos (even DVD movies) etc. Unfortunately it's too late to do that, nobody will accept a hard fork. |
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Cash (i.e. physical FIAT) has two essential properties
- Anonymity. In the general case it is not possible to find out who owns a given coin/banknote at the moment. Nobody knows what transactions are performed except for their participants. This is partly true. Banknotes (not coins) have serial numbers. Why? Because this allows them to have (limited) traceability. If you ever get a banknote from a bank robbery, abduction etc and the serial number of it is marked as "tainted", then you will have a huge problem if you try to deposit it in a bank. It's the same thing with tainted BTC (from MtGox, Silk Road etc.) and CEX (crypto banks). Also, they may introduce additional tracing technology, in case the masses want to retain cash at all costs: https://www.fleur-de-coin.com/eurocoins/banknote-rfidhttps://www.eetimes.com/euro-bank-notes-to-embed-rfid-chips-by-2005/ |
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I'm honestly surprised you know every gossip in the Bitcoin town.  |
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btw. I haven't recognized the reason why Sinbad was immediately archived, while some previously seized/closed are still open. Like Blender, Chipmixer, Whirlwind... What's the difference here? Sinbad had 50% funds from criminals. Whoever used that service or even worse advertised/promoted it (to gain monetary profit) aided criminals. |
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people have financial privacy against other people. but not the government Not that I agree with this logic, but do you think you have privacy against other people with bitcoin? Coin control is very limited and you will likely merge inputs together at some point. i have a known vanity address i use for worthless meaningless public stuff i have MANY addresses for my private stash that i have accumulated over 11 years. .. try to find my real stash.. goodluck i never used a mixer, but i know you wont find my stashenjoy trying though Can a chain analysis company find it (since you said you've never used mixers)? |
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Did anyone notice about the recent high fee being paid? Such a nice trick to launder money without using a mixer, right?
Of course, someone paid 83 BTC fees to clean the money trail. And no, it wasn't a fat finger mistake. Still a bit risky though (if you don't know which pool is gonna solve the block). People will always find ingenious ways within BTC's mainnet rules, that's for sure... |
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If the situation continues miners will have their best christmas ever . Looks like the hype isn't cooling down , ordi is now at more than 50000 times the money cost to inscribe . That gives a lot of ammo to the inscribers to continue . That's why miners wouldn't want big blocks.  |
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It's a huge ASIC investment to acquire 51% of the hashpower. Billions of dollars are required, maybe trillions in the future. They don't have to acquire anything. Just force pool operators to obey their blacklists, and count on enough individual miners not caring enough to switch to a different pool. F2Pool started censoring transactions based on the US government OFAC blacklist, despite there being exactly zero laws requiring them to do so and despite them not even being based in the US. Everybody who cheered for the Blackrock ETF should rethink their actions imo. This forum is full of people who welcome ETFs, welcome institutions, and welcome more regulations, all because it will make the price go up. And if the bitcoin forum founded by Satoshi is largely happy to sacrifice everything bitcoin was designed for in order to chase some short term fiat gains, then you can damn sure the average Joe isn't going care. I'm afraid you're right. Most Bitcoiners are huge hypocrites, they give zero fucks about freedom, they only care about fiat gains... Hell, I don't even pay attention to BTC/USD these days anymore (I no longer participate in price discussions). I know the price is rising, but what's the point? |
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So this means non-custodial wallets will now be KYC-compliant via the use of the AOPP protocol?
If users sleepwalk into subservience, then it's certainly possible. Hopefully enough of them are alert and aware of how dangerous AOPP can potentially be. For those that aren't, maybe we need to shout louder? It seems like it should be blindingly obvious, but then I sometimes forget that not everyone places value in having full control of their funds. Sheeple are sleeping, they just won't wake up and try to understand who wants to abolish privacy by 2030: https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710Another "conspiracy theory" according to some "educated" folks... Do you know how many people have been shouting since 2020 about the Great Reset agenda? And how many people dismissed it as a silly, tinfoil hat conspiracy theory? Sheeple/useless eaters will get what they deserve, I have zero pity/sympathy for them. |
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