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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 11, 2018, 11:20:57 AM
Hello everyone, thank you all for your great contributions. I found Bitbay with my best friend a year ago, when it ws a bit over 1c. We both loved it. The difference being, he went out and sold almost everything he had and put it all on Bitbay, while I called him crazy. He called me crazy and said it was the future. Now he's a multi-millionair telling me "I told you so and you said I was crazy" and laughing, and I'm here with my d!ck in my hand   Grin Shocked   Embarrassed

So anyway, now that I'm in I just want to say this to mr. Zimbeck - the community here and myself really believe in this project. I think you have all the right ideas, I'm all itno this and nothing else. But being in business myself, I cannot stress enough: someone with a mediocre product but great marketing, will always beat someone with a great product and mediocre marketing. I think this is the best venture in the crypto world by far and I'm looking forward to $1/coin, but I really really stress you gotta invest in a really good marketing person. If you even have just ok marketing with your phenominal project, then $1/coin will be just the beginning. Otherwise, it will be the end. You see all these other hype-helium coins with nothing at all out-performing us on nothing but marketing. Imagine what a REAL project can do...

PS I love how you Mr Zimbeck still read and reply to your community, keep it up & all the best wishes!!!

Hahaha well a lot of us here have similar experiences, some people saw Bitcoin when it started, sold early, etc. It happens.

As for reading and replying it doesn't take much time. Sure, I'm busy and perhaps one day I will have to turn off social media. To be honest, not sure why so many devs do otherwise. It benefits to listen to investors.

As for marketing, I completely agree. Indeed there is evidence of projects with nothing and just a lot of marketing at billions in marketcap. Some parts of our tech will speak for itself and potentially move us higher, however we are looking for marketing people and we need one who believes in what we do and has the time to devote almost full time. And also the experience. Our team is building.
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 11, 2018, 11:15:33 AM
Hello!

 I installed wallet BitBay version v2.0.0.0-g32a928e
Some days he synced and now shows a tick that is synchronized.
I did 3 test transfer on this wallet
But it's not any of the three test translations of coins into this wallet, made in different days.
0.00 BAY

These transactions are also not showing in my wallet.

What is the reason and what to do?



And you say it's completely synced?! How long ago did you install this wallet? If it was before November 1st it could be the old one. What is the address? Can you send me the file debug.log? What block is it on?
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 11, 2018, 11:12:23 AM
I had a quick question, is there a difference in staking rewards or behavior between the qt client and the market client?

Well the markets client breaks for change and splits your account into denominations. So I think if you have a lot of coins you are more likely to get consecutive stakes. You could certainly do the same thing though in the QT manually by sending yourself coins a few times. With a smaller balance then they should be pretty similar.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 11, 2018, 11:10:43 AM
Hello.

I have few questions about this project.

If i understood well from the thread the coin has a finite supply and no more coins will be created?
I see that reward is been awarded for staking , from where are this coins awarded from?
Are those rewards from the transaction fees or how this works?

I have bought small amount on the exchange i want to store it locally
Which wallet do you advise?!
If i use the web wallet can i later import the keys into any desktop client if i use the multisignature account?

If I want to stake securely on vps do i need to have 2 full nodes or can it be done
with 1 full node and 1  web wallet?

Thanks.



The static amount of 20 per minute compared to a supply of a billion equates to 1% per year or 10 million new coins per year.




He is also concern about the where about of staking rewards after 10years of staking. where will staging reward come since logically all coins would have been minted and we would have reach max supply. 'is it from tx fee?' he asked.

I think the max supply would not be reached after 10 years... it will go for a very long time. Also there is questions of if we add variable stake on the peg on frozen coins.
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 08, 2018, 10:54:45 PM
Hello.

I have few questions about this project.

If i understood well from the thread the coin has a finite supply and no more coins will be created?
I see that reward is been awarded for staking , from where are this coins awarded from?
Are those rewards from the transaction fees or how this works?

I have bought small amount on the exchange i want to store it locally
Which wallet do you advise?!
If i use the web wallet can i later import the keys into any desktop client if i use the multisignature account?

If I want to stake securely on vps do i need to have 2 full nodes or can it be done
with 1 full node and 1  web wallet?

Thanks.


The supply is 1 billion. It grows 20 coins per block (every 64 seconds on average). Staking is ...


Thanks you very much for your detailed answer above.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=890531.msg27673357#msg27673357

Just few more questions.

Is the amount of the coins that someone has in stake related to the chance to receive reward?
I mean if  account 1 has 100 000 coins and another account 2 has 20 000 coins
is the chance for account 1  5 x greater to be rewarded then the account 2.

Also regarding your previous detailed answer
are there any step by step guides how to setup staking nodes and secure them by using multisignarure account and
hiding keys in images?

Thanks.

Yes that is correct. The probability of getting a stake is based on what size the input is. Also in the Markets Wallet, it splits up the coins into denominations. For example 200,000 coins would get split into 50k, 50k, 50k, 50k. This lets you get more consistent stakes because when you stake that amount is held in limbo for 120 confirmations or roughly 2 hours. Thus if within that 2 hours you would have a greater chance for another one. But you would need a pretty big balance for it to make a statistical difference.

There is not a cold staking guide yet although we do have a bunch of video tutorials and there is one for Steganography. The software even has a feature to forget the location of keys on exit so the hiding in images has a greater impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJKttNPfIg&list=PLILfNPSQCo6yjFiwXY6-C-ikIDs6v2nHU

The feature is "key to image" it was actually also in the setup wizard. A few things to consider. When you hide keys in images be sure to backup the original key files (perhaps print them out on paper). When you have keys stored in images remember that when you send that over email or some internet service (although I am not sure why one would do that) then consider that some places compress images and that would erase the Steganography. This means when you hide keys in images make sure to not alter the image later.

It's a great feature for security because it makes your keys very hard to find as opposed to the all too common "wallet.dat"

So when staking over LAN for example, you go to Settings and Mining/Staking and then you enable staking. You also must unlock the wallet so it can spend. If you have more than one multisignature account you can add either one or two keys (depending on if you are cold staking) using the "Stake multiple accounts" feature. You can even donate stake profits however we recommend doing that to a personal wallet (don't use an exchanges wallet).

If you want to stake normally with both keys on one machine, then make sure both keys are loaded. If you want to cold stake, load only one key and load the second on the second location. Then in the staking tab enter the IP address. It will try to communicate and tell you immediately if it succeeds.

I should also mention you can spend from two locations as well using the 2 step send feature. If one key is loaded on one computer you can send a half signed transaction to a second location of yours via email or bitmessage. You can even set the 2nd location to sign the offer automatically. All of that is in the "Advanced Sending" in the send tab. There are a lot of great security options. It's like being your own bank.
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 08, 2018, 10:43:32 PM
Has anyone ever tried to use the RPC commands of the wallet?
It tried both bitbay-qt and bitbayd (newest github clone), and everytime I send a request I only get "empty responses".

This is what I send:
Code:
curl -u bitbayrpc:BBZP3Q4MqWqksU -X post -d '{"id": "0", "method":"getinfo",  "params": []}' -H 'content-type: application/json' http://127.0.0.1:25001
Curl always reports:
Code:
curl: (52) Empty reply from server
I tried GET and POST and digest auth. Everytime same behaviour.  Huh

The same Curl command works for many other currency wallets, only bitbay is making problems.
 
The port is configurated in bitbay.conf and netstat is showing bitbay listening on this port, so to that point everthing seems to be correct.
Looks like either a problem in my command or a problem in bitbay wallet RPC implementation?
But other wallets from other currencies would also respond an adequate JSON encoded error message in the case the given command is invalid. Bitbay just does nothing.

Hmm good question. Well I run RPC with the markets client using python and bitcoins authserviceproxy library and it works just fine. I'm not sure why you would get a blank response. I assume your RPC password and user and server=1 and rpcport are all correct in your config? If you run the markets wallet, it stores the data directory local to c:\bitbay\bitbaydata and if you run the QT it stores it in appdata. We will take a look at it and see if there is any reason for this.

Also any reason you aren't using the standard RPC port of 19915?

Hi dzimbeck and thank you for your kind response!

Yes I checked username and password, as well as the "server" flag (which just opens an additional RPC port?).
I'm running it on linux and want to run multiple different wallets in parallel. That's why I used this non-standard port.
But even the standard port doesn't change anything.

I didn't try the market wallet yet, because I just wanted to use it for staking.

Sure thanks. Yeah indeed running wallets in parallel you should change the RPC port so it may run. You should be able to do that in the config file. The Bitbay markets software sets it hard coded so it's best to change the QT's wallet config file if running both.


Also did you try yshurik's suggestion? He posted:

Hi, http method should be written in upper case

-X POST

(-x post will not work)
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 07, 2018, 09:19:48 PM
Hello.

I have few questions about this project.

If i understood well from the thread the coin has a finite supply and no more coins will be created?
I see that reward is been awarded for staking , from where are this coins awarded from?
Are those rewards from the transaction fees or how this works?

I have bought small amount on the exchange i want to store it locally
Which wallet do you advise?!
If i use the web wallet can i later import the keys into any desktop client if i use the multisignature account?

If I want to stake securely on vps do i need to have 2 full nodes or can it be done
with 1 full node and 1  web wallet?

Thanks.


The supply is 1 billion. It grows 20 coins per block (every 64 seconds on average). Staking is a pseudo-random competition where nodes stay online in hopes to win a block. When they "win" they confirm transaction signatures and get paid the 20 coins for the service. So the staking is in exchange for a service, an actual persons computer checking validity of transactions to make sure they follow the protocol and avoid forks. The longest chain with the best consensus wins and that is the blockchain. Because to keep it clean someone needs to add to the shared history/ledger/block-chain.

The transaction fee is actually separate. The fee is paid per kilobyte based on the size of your transaction. You pay the fee to avoid flooding the network with spam and also because the more transactions a persons computer processes the more time it takes them. So this keeps the network safer against DDOS attacks. The transaction is extremely small, only a few pennies.

To see an example of transaction fees and how they apply to scale things look at Bitcoin. As the network gets flooded with transaction volume that Bitcoin simply can't take, transactions have now have fees up to 300 dollars! I myself have even paid that to send some Bitcoins. This is in the design of most crypto-currencies. It's actually proof the system works. As the network scales, the people staking or mining put priority on transactions that pay higher fees. So the system is self regulating.

Fees come out of your balance and you can actually choose how much you pay in fees. But if it's too low or lower than the protocol accepts (10000 satoshis per kilobyte) then it might not get into a block.

The reward of 20 coins each block actually comes from nowhere. It is new coins added to the supply. Those new coins are actually not spendable for 120 blocks to ensure the block was true.

The static amount of 20 per minute compared to a supply of a billion equates to 1% per year or 10 million new coins per year.

BitBay will hopefully not ever have the scaling problem Bitcoin has as we are more than happy to improve the system by either having nodes pool together to confirm transactions to help scale, rely on much larger servers to confirm transactions, increase block size, and potentially add a node reputation system and prune the chain every once in a while. Also we would store any fancy ETH style contracts in sidechains to take pressure off the main chain. Although none of that is implemented if anyone adds to Bitbay to improve those aspects those are the things I would suggest or do.

We always recommend the Markets Wallet to store the coins. The software is very powerful contracting software. However not everyone runs contracts, so if you wish to you can certainly use the web wallet. Actually, that is a very good question you asked. I think that the web wallet compresses the public keys so even if you did use the same private keys, it's probably not possible to import multisignature keys into the Markets Client and generate the same address (despite similarities). Although it would be easy for me to add support on that. Instead you would have to send funds from Web Client to Markets client.

However, if you use the single key Web Client, you can import that private key into the QT wallet. That is because the private key is in WIF format and public keys compressed.

If you want to stake securely we have actually one of the most secure staking systems in the world. It's called "cold staking" and you can stake using two computers over LAN. Basically load one key on to one computer and the second key on the other computer. Then you sign from the two locations! Both computers need to be synced and running the software. We have not tested this on two VPS however I think all that is needed is the correct IP and the port for BitBay to be open. It's a bit technical but a really cool, fun and secure thing to do. Since a hacker would have to compromise both locations.

With that said, even staking from one VPS using both keys loaded on one computer is still very strong. We have an anti-keylogger that is great to avoid keystroke loggers. Plus both private keys can be hidden in images. Always make sure you back up the original keys though of course. However be careful with VPS because of Spectre and Meltdown. These two new hacks can read what is in memory on a shared cloud host and maybe even some VPS. Although a hacker would read a password from memory this is what the cold staking was made to defend against. A hacker would not only need that password but the private key itself. I might need to check my signing policy to see when I clear those variables from memory when sending transactions. So yeah you can stake with one full node.







448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 04, 2018, 10:33:33 PM
Early supporter of this coin as far as minor investor but I have to admit I haven't used the site yet.  I am a serious eBayer with the same account since 1998 and thousands of sales there.  If the BitBay experience could be the same kind of experience as eBay it would be awesome.  Any thoughts on this?

That is where we are headed. However remember this is like a combination of local bitcoins, craigs list, alibaba, ebay, freelancer, barteronly all in one! It's because of the versatility of the unbreakable contracts. The advantage we have over ebay is no fees, no escrow, etc.

The drawback for now is it's desktop software but we are very interested in a web interface. This requires a rewrite of Halo in JavaScript. With the continued success of the coin it's becoming more realistic.

The desktop software itself is pretty powerful the templates are meant to be as few clicks as possible. Also someone has worked on a bitmessage relay server to speed up messaging. And someone also built some electrumx nodes for fast connection to the network. So the user experience will continue to improve.

I'm almost done with my next template which will make it more user friendly to buy/sell. It has a shipping calculator (only useful for estimating larger packages). It also has auctions and even reverse auctions (where sellers bid for buyers). And so forth.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 04, 2018, 09:17:45 PM
Has anyone ever tried to use the RPC commands of the wallet?
It tried both bitbay-qt and bitbayd (newest github clone), and everytime I send a request I only get "empty responses".

This is what I send:
Code:
curl -u bitbayrpc:BBZP3Q4MqWqksU -X post -d '{"id": "0", "method":"getinfo",  "params": []}' -H 'content-type: application/json' http://127.0.0.1:25001
Curl always reports:
Code:
curl: (52) Empty reply from server
I tried GET and POST and digest auth. Everytime same behaviour.  Huh

The same Curl command works for many other currency wallets, only bitbay is making problems.
 
The port is configurated in bitbay.conf and netstat is showing bitbay listening on this port, so to that point everthing seems to be correct.
Looks like either a problem in my command or a problem in bitbay wallet RPC implementation?
But other wallets from other currencies would also respond an adequate JSON encoded error message in the case the given command is invalid. Bitbay just does nothing.

Hmm good question. Well I run RPC with the markets client using python and bitcoins authserviceproxy library and it works just fine. I'm not sure why you would get a blank response. I assume your RPC password and user and server=1 and rpcport are all correct in your config? If you run the markets wallet, it stores the data directory local to c:\bitbay\bitbaydata and if you run the QT it stores it in appdata. We will take a look at it and see if there is any reason for this.

Also any reason you aren't using the standard RPC port of 19915?
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 04, 2018, 09:12:16 PM
However I'm the only coder who works on the core Markets Client (I started working on this 4 years ago in BitHalo).

I have some follow up questions. Since you are the only coder how maintainable is your code? Are you the only one who has the unobscured source code?

Great question, I have the entire code memorized and know where everything is. There is a couple very trusted members of the community who have a copy of the full code in case anything happens to me and they also have the whitepaper of my peg so a coder would know the way to do it.

With that said, my code is all in one file. It could really use a refactor and even be broken up into a library of extremely useful crypto tools. Since the software does so much other coders would benefit a lot from the techniques used. I would like to see a team of coders eventually rewrite it in JavaScript.

When I add things to the code I have to work with 50k lines of tedious changing and testing. I work slowly for that reason, careful to avoid typos. When I'm done we will give it to a team of skilled python coders who will rewrite and refactor it so it's nice and modular. It's worth noting that we are working with a strong coder right now who is doing some c++ and GUI work. So we are in the process of building up our team now that things are going well.
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BLK/BC) | PoS | No ICO on: January 01, 2018, 07:28:25 PM
By the way, can anyone tell how to stake with BlackHalo? I unlocked the Wallet, and aktivate staking. Is this enough or do I need a cold staking IP insert?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.msg26443242#msg26443242

You don't have to cold stake, that is optional. Make sure you have both keys loaded (in the history tab it tells you how many keys are loaded). And also make sure it's unlocked and activated in settings.
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 01, 2018, 07:23:32 PM
Hello, I really like this project but have some questions:

1. You have listed many job positions but it is still hard to distinguish, at least for me, how many active coders are working on this project?
2. Any plans to market the product to a broader audience if so when we can expect that (don't see this on the road map)?
3. What do you think about your competition and why do you think your solution will win? I am mainly asking about ZCoin which already got a lot of recognition and has decentralized marked on their road map but feel free to also comment briefly on any other projects.
4. Is this project fully open source?

Yes it's open source. However on the Python Markets/Halo client we change variable names to prevent easy cloning. Our decentralized markets exist. Other projects only have it on their roadmap as you have said. Also our markets are the best because we don't use arbitration. Arbitration on an anonymous crypto is a bad idea. They don't have vested interest and their judgement will be a coin toss causing loss for users, they can also collude and steal escrows or escrow their own deals by luck, and crypto is non-reversible.

Thus we have the tried and tested double deposit escrow AKA unbreakable contracts where both parties place a deposit of some size and both lose if one of them tries to cheat the deal. It's a "Halo handshake" like a self insured escrow. This is a huge feature because it can really benefit any industry (what industry doesn't benefit from an unbreakable contract)

We do market this however we are still building the team. Right now there is a lot of people helping to improve our marketing.

We have a bounty list and most of them are for marketing. However I'm the only coder who works on the core Markets Client (I started working on this 4 years ago in BitHalo). We have another coder who does JavaScript and some of the side projects like the poker site, the web wallet, the block explorer.

And then we have a couple volunteer coders who are doing things like the Bitmessage relay. And we also have one more coder who has worked on a new UI for QT and a dedicated Mac Wallet that isn't Wine.
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 31, 2017, 09:07:42 PM
muahahahaha..i just realized that this is up since 2014..rookie spotted  Grin still new on this crypto thing.
Sure, let us know if you have any questions or check out our forum, slack or bitbay.market

 Grin
454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 31, 2017, 09:06:10 PM
Hi,

An dumb question guys,

How i uninstall in windows 64bits the old bitbay wallet? bitbay-qt

Thank you


I just want to uninstall to install the new wallet.

The old QT wallet is simple the executable. Deleting it will uninstall it. However there are files stored in the folder c:\users\(your user name)\appdata\roaming\bitbay

However just remember in that folder is wallet.dat which contains your account so make sure to back that up or move funds out of that wallet before you intend on deleting that folder.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 31, 2017, 01:29:11 AM

I will admit that the poker site did throw me off.  It's dangerous to build up expectations in today's news driven market and then deliver something completely out from left field.  I was disappointed with the news as I was expecting something else.  I think the market has reacted similarly.


Actually if you read my response above you will see the "poker" platform was actually a side project by Anoxy which was actually complete when I got it but I asked him to make it multisignature so that exchanges can learn from our example so that users funds are not in jeopardy after a clearing process. It's a great model for an exchange.

To be honest, the Christmas event was simply part of the roadmap and I didn't even write the roadmap. It was cool that they saved it as a surprise. No other coin had anything for their investors on Christmas, personally I think anyone who reacts adversely to a gift is not thinking clearly. We not only gave our users that platform for fun, they also did a giveaway with Steganography which really kept people engaged to our twitter and forums. We didn't get anyone's hopes up so the hype may just be due to investors themselves who blew up our twitter hyping the event. Our core marketing team has been thinking of fun and creative ways to keep users engaged which is a lot better than other coins who pretty much didn't give their users anything for Christmas. What did Litecoin give their users for Christmas? Another Tweet saying "dude Bitcoin gold, Litecoin silver" lol such fundamentals, so fashion.

Any event that is over-hyped can result in an anticlimactic feeling for people when the event ends.  I'm about to finish my next template and that is the development that really matters because it means one step closer to finishing everything on the roadmap.
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 31, 2017, 01:13:13 AM
There is a big sell-off now in Bitbay which I think will continue. I dont think Bitbay will ever revolutionize anything. The People behind it has showed for everyone a loss of competense and knowledge. The Christmas "Surprice" has seriously forced me to sit Down and reconsider my possition in here, as it all started to reminds me about a kindergarden. As a investor for the last 18 years I have seen Things in the bitbay community that makes me wonder. Who are the People behind and how realistic are the idea they try to sell; that bitbay will be the New Ebay.com? I dont buy this idea, thats for sure! They dont even own the domene www.bitbay.com  Huh

to me this is all too obvious:

* They will never become a New Ebay
* This crypto is just another copy of something, thought they have spent Money to let someone make a wallet and so on.
* I think owners of bitbay tokens should be more Critical about whats going on. The Project had a value last week that was 325 million dollar! This is Complete insane.

The market value has now seriously start to decline, but who really think bitbay will be a major Company like ebay, Amazon etc? Well, not me for sure.
I am done With bitbay, but I wish you all good Luck.

I would like to hear some other realistic opinions about this.Thanks.

Here's a 'realistic opinion" for you newbie: Go learn something about the subject, and the project in general before you spout off totally ridiculous accusations and "facts" you made up in your own head. And, I'm sure we are mostly happy you are done with Bitbay since you didn't bother to learn a single thing about it before posting this trash. This project has been around since 2014 and I assure you the market cap is not insane. In fact, it's quite low but, we're working on that.


I wanted to hear from others about their realistic opinions, but I can see that you don’t like sceptical questions. You push away these questions and called it for insults.

There are many questions I would like to discuss, but it must be free from wounded souls and bad feelings.
Do you really know how many poker – and internet casinos there are in the internet? If you think this is a brilliant idea, making another poker casino, all I can tell you that you have no clue about what you are talking about. I dont think you have a strategy, just to hang on some more year and hope you quickly are able to get out `before house of card is falling?  

There is over 1 billion tokens but nobody except from those who are behind all this know for sure how many more billions tokens they will create, in the long run. It would be nice to know how you guys distribute new tokens. Do you sell them in pack of 50000 each and put the profit in your own pocket?

I feel pretty sure that the real casino is to own bitbay tokens. The comunications to the community is childish and "see if you are able to find the package... so you can win 5000 tokens. Hurrayy".

You dont have more unbreakable contracts than where you got your blockchain code from or other blockchains. I am just sceptical to what I have seen lately. Who are the team behind this really? A bunch of toddlers, or high skilled professionals? I just lost my faith in the whole consept and I have a strong feeling that a lot of people will lose a lot of money on this. People that have put their money into something like this. I am afraid it will all end up in tears for so many. The team behind this project is from Poland as far as I know. I have to say in general; that the wheel was not invented there and I have seen other failed project from eastern Europe. The typical error is not developed any  businessidea from the beginning. What is the vision, strategy (ahh maybe a little more than a X-mas surprice and a new wallet?). And have you told the "investors" how you are going to get there??

I suspect you are people with some knowledge about how to make cryptos, that is not difficult at all. Something very different is to develop and have a clear vision about the businessidea behind. Where are the money suppose to come from in the future and when? You suppose to start making money from this business in 2018, in 5 yerars, 10, 20 years?

As I said earlier. I would like to discuss this "company" and take a deeper look at its strengths, weaknesses, opportunities and threats, a so-called SWOT analysis. But these tools or models may be unknown for you?  I hope to hear from others out there, that can also discuss Things in a Critical way. Remember this. Nothing that can not handle daylight will survive in the long run.

It`s really bad you can not handle critics of any kind. It would be Nice to hear the plan for the near future of bitbay. What is the true business idea? To make a true Marketplace?

"The newbie". I am New in this forum, but i just dont undertand whats wrong With that? Was it wrong to participate into this forum maybe?

Do you get all your information on Twitter and have you bothered to look at the site or download the software? The poker thing was a side project. I'm the dev I didn't even work on it. I only coached the guy who made it because he already gave us the platform and I explained to him that multisignature with front end security was the way to go for his exchange he was thinking of building so we tested it on the poker platform. If there was a multisignature exchange it would have saved consumers BILLIONS of dollars (Mt. Gox, Mintpal, etc) you are casting it off as a poker site but it's actually a pseudo-trustless exchange/poker site due to the security model. It is extremely valuable code and could currently save exchanges from hacks. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

This coin is about unbreakable contracts which can revolutionize the world as we know it. My software Halo was the worlds first to even have smart contracts years before Ethereum and it is STILL to date, the only peer to peer contracting platform in the world. This software transcends e-bay. It's like e-bay, alibaba, barteronly, localbitcoins, freelancer combined. Because contracts can be made without the problem of deception (double deposit escrow) it can help so many industries. Also the rolling peg like I said is an entirely different beast and it will curb this volatility you see in crypto by freezing and unfreezing coins.

And if that isn't enough this was the worlds first decentralized markets with built in IMAP as well with hundreds of other features.

So what do you refer to by this alleged "house of cards" that I've busted my ass off for 4 years to build? Have you ever built software before and are you aware of how much work it is?

This comment I'm going to highlight because it shows how little you understand about crypto:

There is over 1 billion tokens but nobody except from those who are behind all this know for sure how many more billions tokens they will create, in the long run. It would be nice to know how you guys distribute new tokens. Do you sell them in pack of 50000 each and put the profit in your own pocket?

This might be the dumbest question ever asked on this forum. First of all the coin supply is fixed at a billion. In Bitcoin and ANY altcoin you can't "create" more coins from thin air that is not how it works. Coins work by "proof of work" or "proof of stake" and coins generated through competing for blocks. So stop what you are doing and first go research how Bitcoin works. We don't "distribute" new tokens. If you buy 100,000 tokens and you stake it you get 1-5% per year in interest and thus you get new tokens. That is what secures the network because the people who win new tokens check signatures on transactions.

We don't have "more unbreakable contracts" than what? That wasn't even a sentence. Download the software before you really make a fool of yourself. I'm the ONLY coder of Halo there is no other blockchain that has double deposit escrow AKA unbreakable contracts.

The team behind this is not from Poland. You are confusing us with Bitbay.net. We are http://Bitbay.market.

Who are these "people" or "team" you refer to? I'm the dev of BitHalo(BitHalo.org), BlackHalo and BitBay (bitbay.market). I've been coding for 4 years you maybe have this project confused with something else.

Also we CAN handle critics but we won't deal with FUD, lazy research, insults that are based on lies or false (like that we are from Poland which we are not or that code was taken from other projects which it was not or you just literally making up how you think crypto works to accuse people of pulling coins from thin air).

If you keep saying things like that your comments will simply be deleted for baseless FUD. Responding to you is a waste of my valuable time. We do pride ourselves on good customer service but check what you say before spouting off about things you don't know about.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 30, 2017, 08:18:13 PM
There is a big sell-off now in Bitbay which I think will continue. I dont think Bitbay will ever revolutionize anything. The People behind it has showed for everyone a loss of competense and knowledge. The Christmas "Surprice" has seriously forced me to sit Down and reconsider my possition in here, as it all started to reminds me about a kindergarden. As a investor for the last 18 years I have seen Things in the bitbay community that makes me wonder. Who are the People behind and how realistic are the idea they try to sell; that bitbay will be the New Ebay.com? I dont buy this idea, thats for sure! They dont even own the domene www.bitbay.com  Huh

to me this is all too obvious:

* They will never become a New Ebay
* This crypto is just another copy of something, thought they have spent Money to let someone make a wallet and so on.
* I think owners of bitbay tokens should be more Critical about whats going on. The Project had a value last week that was 325 million dollar! This is Complete insane.

The market value has now seriously start to decline, but who really think bitbay will be a major Company like ebay, Amazon etc? Well, not me for sure.
I am done With bitbay, but I wish you all good Luck.

I would like to hear some other realistic opinions about this.Thanks.

Oh geez a brand new account coming here and asking for "realistic" opinions after throwing a slew of insults. I have a better idea, how about next year you guys get nothing for Christmas instead of a poker platform that took one of our devs a year to build. Not to mention the worlds most secure poker platform. Bitbay.com isn't selling their domain. We NEVER market ourselves a the new "ebay". First of all we have unbreakable contracts which in of itself is totally world changing. It doesn't just apply to sales but employment outsourcing and barter. Also we are planning the rolling peg which is an entirely different beast.

So next you complain that the price was a little bit higher last week? You realize this is crypto right? What is with all these new investors who don't seem to understand that a coin going up or down 50% a day is what investors like to call "just another normal day". Bitcoin is down 40% should investors reconsider their position in Bitcoin too?

Okay so look at the chart a year ago we are up 5 times. If you want quick gains I recommend you go to Las Vegas. It sounds more like you wanna gamble instead of invest.  Cheesy
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 30, 2017, 02:41:49 AM
My friend installed the full client and cannot download full blockchain on Mac notebook. It stops at 60%. He downloaded the blockchain from the site but cannot understand how to use it.
Does the blockchain files suit for Mac and where to put it? Can somebody explain or give a link? Thank you!

Or maybe another way: we could not find the option how to use key files in web wallet. Can smb tell?

Blockchain bootstrap doesn't work with Mac, we used to have a pre-synced Mac build in the site directory. If it's stuck at 60% does he have sleep on his Mac where maybe hard disk was turned off or interfered?! Or did he ever force close it or not shut down properly. If so he might need to sync again. The blockchain files are inside the app package in c:\bitbay\bitbaydata

David do you have any thoughts on the upcoming UBTC fork.  I attended their conference in Santa clara and it seems their planning a sort of dynamic pegging system as well.  According to the roadmap on their site they plan to release their peg on Jan 8th and will peg to USD. 

There is a big difference between a dynamic rolling peg and a hard peg to usd. However that seems very unlikely that they would have such a feature completed overnight. I suppose it depends on the technique they wish to use. Not sure why people think that Bitcoin forks are somehow different from an altcoin. In my point of view a Bitcoin fork is an altcoin until it becomes universally accepted as the original Bitcoin. Bitcoin Cash is the only fork that could potentially replace it because it was done due to a very big technical debate that in my opinion hasn't truly ended.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 25, 2017, 07:36:29 AM
My friend installed the full client and cannot download full blockchain on Mac notebook. It stops at 60%. He downloaded the blockchain from the site but cannot understand how to use it.
Does the blockchain files suit for Mac and where to put it? Can somebody explain or give a link? Thank you!

Or maybe another way: we could not find the option how to use key files in web wallet. Can smb tell?

Blockchain bootstrap doesn't work with Mac, we used to have a pre-synced Mac build in the site directory. If it's stuck at 60% does he have sleep on his Mac where maybe hard disk was turned off or interfered?! Or did he ever force close it or not shut down properly. If so he might need to sync again. The blockchain files are inside the app package in c:\bitbay\bitbaydata
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 25, 2017, 01:36:49 AM

Can't trade BAY on Bittrex anymore cos they will pass your details to IRS who will demand trading/capital gains tax on every coin-to-coin exchange from now on.

http://fortune.com/2017/12/21/bitcoin-tax/

By that logic, you cannot trade any coins on bittrex from now onwards. The best way out is to have a careful track of your coins and pay tax when due. The IRS is going to ask for its pound of flesh eventually. You either have to pay your taxes voluntarily or be ready to renounce your citizenship.

Well of course taxation is theft. However I think on every trade you also could have capital loss and the capital gains you pay depends on your tax bracket. I was seeing there is no need to pay gains if you are under a certain amount of gains. There is 100k foreign residency deduction (but that might only apply to income) and other things.

Regardless of how you cut it, crypto is better than dollars and this is their attempt in fear to control it. They have been making lots of big moves lately and it won't matter. Net neutrality, a horrible real estate tax law, no 1031 on property, immigration restrictions, etc. All it's gonna do is make people leave America.
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