By the end of August 75% plus will have their orders.
You heard it here first...
No. We heard it there first: http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitforce-sc-release-notes/(yes, this page is still online!!!) "... The SC product line has been under development for quite some time and is not the result of an expedited development process. Although there are always issues during development, our team is highly experienced in exactly this field and we're currently ahead of our original timeline. Honest Abe, we're scheduling shipments for October of 2012. ..."
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crazy temps I see this board die very soon Since when is 76C crazy? I run my GPU's at that all the time mining for years. I'm sure AMD/Nvidia use a higher quality process. Proof?Seriously? BFL does not even know what QA stands for! Their track record of failures speaks for itself. You really wanna compare AMD and Nvidia with them BFL cowboys?
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Only to people who are assholes to me first. I respond in kind, if you haven't noticed.
"I respond in kind" ... LOL ... that could become the quote of the month Calling people liars, idiots, retards and cock suckers might be "kind" in the parallel universe you live in - in this universe it's very rude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlWrmIqGs3Y&t=2m48s
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76C with the case completely open seems rather high.
Heat is also one of my biggest concerns! Josh once said the units run cool and quit in a "cool environment" (whatever that means). It's getting summer here where I live, with temps ~30°C. I assume the units will go over 80°C under those conditions. Ongoing high temps kill ICs pretty quickly.
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Remember all those threads/posts we made months ago where we said customers would start to get pissed and will be the demise of BFL..
They called us the "BFL clowns league". Now everyone knows who the real clowns are ...
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Yeah I don't get it either.
Either those guys are totally retarded - or BFL pays them to post stuff like that.
What's so retarded about 5.5GH/s @ 34W? 5.5GH/s @ 34W would be a great deal - if BFL could deliver. 5GH/s @ 5W (as originally promised by BFL) would be an even greater deal - if BFL could deliver. 5GH/s @ 5W delivered in October 2012 would have been the awesome deal that we paid BFL for. Unfortunately BFL fucked up big time. But that's not the point. The point is all those shills and retards on BFL forums. Example? BFL_Jody: "Sorry folks, nothing new today".Troll1: "Awesome! Thanks for keeping us up to date". Shill1: "Great job BFL!". Troll2: "+1". BFL_Jody: "We managed to ship 2 Jalapenos this week".Shill1: "Jody it's looking awesome! Looks like you worked through the weekend almost non stop! Keep up the good work!" Troll1: "Well done, BFL! Finally some progress". Shill2: "You guys rock!". Shill3: "Keep up the good work". Troll2: "+1". Troll3: "+1". The proper reply for all those BFL "updates" would be: "Get your shit together you fuckers and do what we paid you to do a year ago!".
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Fixed that for you: Avalon and asicsminer will be super rich and BFL will be is super rich. but not super rich.
ASICS will be accessible to everyone!!!!!!
ordering now from BFL is a waste of time and capital
BFL already has our pre-order money, remember?
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I keep forgetting this is about money, when looking at this thread from another angle, instead thinking about those stock related "Buy now!" or "Sell now!" threads it all makes sense. These negative posts are all about maxing your own profits by making as many people as possible get refunds.
Might be true for some of us. But most of us are just fed of with their constant lies and the lost profit since October 2012.
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If you ever wanna see a a refund, better get it now, they obviously won't be able to cover for everyone. You know they have been paying 25 employees, suppliers, facilities, Josh's life insurrance, a few Nexus 7 and fans, etc. for over a year using your "pre-order" money, right ?
It would be against the law if they touch my pre-order money. Unless they shipped my unit, they are not allowed to do so. Once BFL goes belly up it will be interesting to see if they've broken this law.
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I'm not sure if this is completely intentional on BFL's part, but it makes one think very hard about what BFL's game is.
My theory for their incredible amount of dilettantism is this: There's no pressure on BFL, because they already have our money. They have enough venture capital and pre order money for another six months(?). Another year(?). Who knows. I assume Josh & Sonny grant themselves a princely salary (say $800,000 per year) because they are such high potentials . Once this money is gone, and/or no more new money comes in, because even hillbillies understood that difficulty made BFLs devices unprofitable, BFL is history. Once BFL goes belly up, prosecutors can't find anything unlawful, because BFL tried as best as they could to bring ASICS to the market. Oh noes, who could have know that they fuck up each and every step? It was just another startup that failed, right? ... And a nice addition from user "dropt": "You forgot the part where they sell a copy of the mask to a newly formed tech company for pennies on the dollar in efforts to balance the books and stave off bankruptcy. As BFL implodes, said newly founded tech company starts a massive solo mining asic farm."
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Wouldn't it be smarter to avoid developing a prototype and paying for the ASIC mask if the goal is to con people? I mean, why bother now when they can actually make more money selling the product which is already out there. My theory for their incredible amount of dilettantism is this: There's no pressure on BFL, because they already have our money. They have enough venture capital and pre order money for another six months(?). Another year(?). Who knows. I assume Josh & Sonny grant themselves a princely salary (say $800,000 per year) because they are such high potentials . Once this money is gone, and/or no more new money comes in, because even hillbillies understood that difficulty made BFLs devices unprofitable, BFL is history. Once BFL goes belly up, prosecutors can't find anything unlawful, because BFL tried as best as they could to bring ASICS to the market. Oh noes, who could have know that they fuck up each and every step? It was just another startup that failed ...
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Jesse Seaver von The Huffington Post hat vor zwei Wochen auch schon was geschrieben: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jesse-seaver/the-great-bitcoin-debate_b_3294847.htmlZitat: Anonymous Miner: Mining Bitcoins has become an arms race against time. (Well, it always was, but now the big guys are in, with the big guns.)
Butterfly Labs might promise to deliver in two weeks ("two weeks" is their standard reply), but if you (pre)order now it might be end of 2013 til you get your hardware. Because of companies like Avalon (they plan to throw hundreds of thousands of ASIC chips on the market around August 2013 and have already sold 490,000 by now), the difficulty will be sky high by then. In my opinion, Latecomers won't even make their investment back, not to mention making any profit.
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It looks like to me that they are selling a 2nd 2Ghs box for $100?!?
If that is true then that is a much better deal that the 300Mhs USB thingy for 2 BTC.
If it is a 2nd box then maybe they have a supply of rejects that don't meet the needed performance and are trying to recoup some of the loss in building them?
Selling: yes Shipping: no
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Für 100$ kann man die Jalapenos jetzt um 2 Gh/s aufwerten Ja das schlägt dem Faß so langsam den Boden aus! BFL ist fast ein Jahr zu spät mit der Auslieferung, die Teile verbrauchen viel mehr Strom aus versprochen. Da wäre es angebracht, wenn sie, als Entschädigung, den Leuten den Upgrade umsonst geben würden. BFL_Josh/Inaba hat ja immer groß herumgetönt sie würden locker alles überbieten was Avalon vorlegt, würden ihre Kunden nicht enttäuschen. Ihre Produkt hätten so viel Spielraum und wären so gut zu übertakten. Alles Blödsinn! BFL macht sich jeden Tag ein Stückchen unbeliebter.
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Ne, Geld verdienen haben die nicht im Sinn. Das ist kein Geschäftssinn. Wenn sie den hätten, hätten sie bereits ihre Produkte draussen und hätten Preorders für kleine 500gh/s miners angenommen
Ne Moment, genau anders herum: Die haben (hatten?) nur Geldverdienen im Sinn. Was gibt es für BFL für einen Anreiz zu liefern? Unser Geld haben sie ja schon. Und es kommt jeden Tag genug neues dazu von Leuten die auf den (abgefahrenen) Zug aufspringen.
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Noch wäre es nicht zu spät.
Leute ich versteh euch nicht. Wir könnten alle stinkreich sein, hätte BFL, wie versprochen, im Oktober geliefert. Block Reward bei 50, Difficulty bei 1/5 vom jetzigen Wert, ... Und trotzdem ist es OK für euch?
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I made the following post last July in which I indicated it made NO SENSE how BFL could make power/speed claims on ASICs without actually developed them.
Dude! You annoy BFL sheeple since one year? No wonder your Ignore button is dark orange
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Anyone has experience with MtGox wire transfer withdrawal (non-SEPA)? What's the typical delay like?
1 day Not sure. A month or two ago everybody wanted in. People queued up to get verified to finally be able to purchase some of this strange Internet money. Not it seems a lot of people want out - and can't.
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To make more profit
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