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321  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I think that butterfly labs is a scam on: August 20, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
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322  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: BFL Extremely Abusive on: August 20, 2013, 09:01:18 PM
They've been taking pre-orders for ASICS early 2012, they have now taken more than 12-18 months to deliver on their products.
Of course, this is a lie.  Not a single order's scheduled delivery date is more than 10 months old.  Where you get the claim of 12 - 18 months is beyond me, but it's completely, unequivocally false (in other words, an outright lie.)


Inaba / BFL_Josh is wrong - as usual.


Official shipping update from BFL_Jody from https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/296-monday-august-19-2013-shipping-update.html:

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Jalapenos: All 4.5 gh/s Jalapenos through Dec 31, 2012 pay date shipped today. Anyone with a 6.5 gh/s upgraded Jalapeno will be shipped tomorrow through this paydate.

Little Singles: Oct. 5, 2012 pay date

Singles: July 3, 2012 pay date

MiniRigs: MiniRigs for June 23 (2nd 500gh/s unit) and July 22 for 1st 500 gh/s This line was static with no shipments today.


July 3, 2012 and June 23, 2012 was more than 12 month ago, no? Wink
Josh, maybe you should talk to your colleges more often.


323  Bitcoin / Hardware / BFL ASIC Status vs. BFL Monarch Status on: August 20, 2013, 01:45:19 PM
What we know about BFL so far:
  • BFL was late with their generation 1 miners (FPGA). Units consumed considerably more power than originally advertised.
  • BFL was (is!) way behind schedule with their generation 2 miners (ASICS). Units consumed way more power than originally advertised.

Question is: Will history repeat (a third time) for BFL?

Let's keep track of the Monarch updates - and see if the locusts descend this time (on time) Grin


324  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL board project COINTAMINATION - EU+USA facility - need samples for one board on: August 19, 2013, 09:22:25 PM
With the new 28nm BFL technology just around the corner - is your project still worth it?
325  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: ASIC Mafia, Mining HW Ponzi scheme on: August 19, 2013, 09:16:42 PM
When I see these pictures around the forum with all the CEOs of asic miners together (BFL, KNC, ButterflyLabs, Avalon, AM, etc), I start to think that all of them are coordinated discussing the hashing power that they are releasing to the network so they can put a price accordingly.

Do you think that is like that? Is this the begining of a bitcoin mafia?

I'm not sure if this is the beginning of the Bitcoin Mafia - or if the Mafia is already there. But when I look back at the last 12 month I have to conclude: The idea of Bitcoin is dead.

It started altruistic, to give the banksters the finger - but it ended up attracting all sorts of scum (crooks, psychopaths, convicted felons).

Greed seems to be the predominant attribute of mankind. Whether the mammons name is Gold, US-Dollar - or Bitcoin. Makes no difference ...
326  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: I just cancelled my BFL pre-order because of Monarch. on: August 19, 2013, 09:09:09 PM
By the time you get your product back, Difficulty is too high and they came up with a better, cheaper product that they will deliver sooner.

I assume the ones that are really fucked are the poor fellas that bought BFL chips.
327  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: [POLL] Should Butterfly Labs (BFL) get a Scammer tag? on: August 19, 2013, 08:05:38 PM
Only 77 percent say BFL is a scam? Seriously? After BFL pulled a Monarch out of their hat?

A Monarch, that miraculously can cancel formerly uncancelable (pre) orders?

From BFL's webpage: "Transferring your order to a new 28nm Mining Card will cancel your old order completely. ..."

Could anyone explain how a customer can "transfer" an order - but is not allowed to receive a refund because of BFL's "all sales are final" statement?

That means, the argument "we cannot refund you because we already spent resources to build up your device" becomes a fallacy if an order "transfer" is allowed.

How can BFL justify this "non refunds" policy any longer?
328  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Gox/Bitstamp spread breaches 20%. The bank run on Gox has started! 8/19 on: August 19, 2013, 09:26:30 AM
Why then not buy BTC at bitstamp for example, where price is lower? The difference between Gox and others is still rising.

Oh great idea! I wonder why nobody else had this idea
/sarcasm off  Roll Eyes

It doesn't matter if you sell your Bitcoins on MtGox for 100, 1000 or one gazillion USD per BTC - as long as there's no way to withdraw your funds.
329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Butterfly Labs New 600GH "Mining Card" - RED FLAGS?!?! on: August 19, 2013, 06:41:27 AM
Edit: Now if Slock turned....damn...you'd know that so much shit hit the fan that the fan fell from the ceiling from the sheer weight of it all.

Slok actually does work for BFL. Either this, or he has some very (very!) good inside connections to information only BFL staff can now.
330  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: It's -on-! on: August 18, 2013, 08:34:57 AM

Putting on a fresh pot of coffee,  Simon's on his way Smiley


Eduardo deCastro
Founder and CEO, HashFast

"It's -on-"? What is on? The thread-starter frenzy?

Does the HashFast crew really has to start 5 new threads per day?
331  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 18, 2013, 07:33:56 AM

It's 3:00 AM Paris time, and I do enjoy reading threads usually.

Nasser

Of course you read them not logged it. Smart move. I still believe Jeff Ownby is using this account.

One of the mods could easily clarify this (checking the IP from where BFL-Engineer posted this).

@BFL-Engineer, would this be OK for you?
332  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
Regarding power consumption, Radeon 5970 and 5870 both consume more power than our card does, the very reason we took this design approach.

Regards,
Nasser

My 5870 used to consume about 200 Watt.

It seems you don't know the power consumption of the card you claim you have designed (350 Watt).

Maybe you should take a look at your own web site  Grin

333  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 10:40:17 PM
"BFL exec Sonny Vleisides informs me that customers still waiting for 65nm ASICs will likely be allowed to switch queues for the newer product. Also, since the 65nm chip is out of the R&D phase and it will be some time before the new 28nm chip enters the assembly and shipping phase it seems unlikely that this new product will have a meaningful effect on the old."

http://codinginmysleep.com/bfl-introduces-28nm-asic-and-its-a-pcie-card/
334  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 10:17:35 PM
PCI is just perfect (from the average joe with some mobo to datacenter guys with cabinet)
No more exotic stuff.

How is a USB connection "exotic stuff"?
335  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 08:55:29 PM
Jesus fucking Christ. Here we go again.

Christ? Yeah good point! Where is Christ Vleisides (whose name is on the incorp docs).

Can't find him here http://www.butterflylabs.com/management/
336  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 08:42:19 PM
So much lie on this webpage. I don't know where to start.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/management/ is even more funny.
337  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 08:34:02 PM

The page says:
Tape out August 2013
November/December delivery


Tape out for their "old" ASICS was supposed to be September 2012, with October 2012 delivery.

It's August 2013 now and people that ordered a Single SC late June 2012 are still waiting.

Why would anyone trust BFL ever again?

338  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 17, 2013, 07:39:13 PM
I guess BFL was told to stop using PayPal to snare new investors!

Or maybe PayPal does not like to be called "fucking PayPal".

339  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: HashFast Store is Live! on: August 15, 2013, 06:58:23 PM
The HashFast store is live and we have roughly 300 Baby Jets left.

We have attempted to reach everyone that initiated a purchase previously. If you would like to complete a purchase or speak with a  customer service representative, please call us at (800) 609-3445, or email us at sales@hashfast.com.

John
HashFast.com

What's up with your Marketing & Sales guy? Looks like Josh 2.0  Wink
Hope he's not the same asshole.


https://hashfast.com/team/
340  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Butterflylabs Huge SCAM on: August 15, 2013, 05:53:09 PM
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