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461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Betting in bitcoin is legal or illegal? on: February 06, 2018, 03:50:38 AM
I don't think it will illegal.
If your country banned bitcoins or crypto currencies then betting inside your country with bitcoin will be considered as an illegal act,so you may be punished.But it is hard to find who is using the gambling sites using virtual proxy network,so there is no problem if you play using bitcoins even if your country banned them.
Which is right, even they (government) banned it all the way gamblers still will find their ways to keep on playing, it's really depend from the position of each countries how they interpret this system, if they totally against it, then betting using bitcoin will also be affected and will be restricted but if they
allow their people to use it possibly that they will have regulations to make it legal.
Basically it's human rights to do whatever we wanted but in government law there's some rules for you to avoid a punishment yeah the rules created in our country are to protect us - they said .... - just look at your own government rules, illegal or not it's up to your region rules. Basically no one can stop you to gamble but a punishment.
462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 06, 2018, 03:00:40 AM
well, another dreadful performance from Chelsea, I actually stopped watching the game after 3-1 so I missed Pereyra's goal Sad  all in all, Watford put up a great performance (Deulofeu MOTM), while Chelsea was just Hazard and 10 9 other guys, poor belgian can't carry the whole team.

So, I guess Abramovich is going to wait until the Champions League match against Barcelona to sack Conte? unless, of course, Chelsea manages to advance to the next round.


Shame I didn't watch the match, but I can see an early red card meant Chelsea played the game with 10 men for at least 2/3rds of the game. Still absolutely no excuse to lose like this.
even after the red card, Chelsea was in control of the game (55% possession, though they didn't have that many shots on target), it wasn't until Hazard's goal that Watford decided to go for the win.
Surprise surprise surprise! Bakayoko played so terrible in the last 3 matches everyone would blame him and also It's gonna be a hard job for conte now to survive as a manager at Chelsea if the last chance are on Chelsea vs Barcelona match, I believe the odds for conte to be sacked would around 3 or so , conte future at Chelsea are hanging now with tons problem he received lately.
463  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I watched my $5000 metamorphose to $2075 :( on: February 06, 2018, 02:48:52 AM
it depends on how long you invest your money, if you do not need it now you do not have to bother seeing it, bitcoin is down now of course all other altcoin also decreased, not just you but all the people who hold altcoin are the same as you, nothing wrong with that. Grin
That's why you should never put your money that used for primary needs , you would get frustrated to see the real crash right now. The situation seems went even worse your $20,000 turned to $6,000 with the current rates, but really when you invest the money that you can forget it for long term you might could see the new ATH come faster. Just forget your investment for future purpose.
464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Please stop selling! on: February 05, 2018, 05:07:43 PM
I can understand how you feel but we can’t stop others decision. I have been holding and will continue to hold. I feel that this dip is to shake the weak hands and then Bitcoin will continue going up. Cheers
Media are the one who drives people to make that selling decision and the whales know the opportunity behind all of these crazy exaggerated rumors. Well in the end you can't win against the market trends , just follow it closely or be super patient to have huge profit in the future by holding every single bitcoin you have.
465  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are you wondering what's happening with bitcoin? on: February 04, 2018, 11:45:28 PM
Now I think we need to keep watching, for me the scenario is unpreditable. Taking the charts of previous moments in consideration, the price will pump sooner or later and Bitcoin won't disappoint us. I think it's more depending on whales, when they want they will push the price up. What do you think about it?

I think that for now, as is always good in february, should be good to build some positions in very solid alts that are way due for a correction in BTC value but also hedge with fiat because you don't know how low some alts can go in terms of fiat value, and there's definitely some good ones that are worth to buy the dip.
While HODL-ing , people look at altcoins potential to grow together whenever bitcoin ready to bounce back, it's not something new , the strange thing are when people do make a brave speculation now but cut the loss sooner due panic, people nowadays wants an instant cash , it's impossible, you need a lot of time before collecting good things later as profit. It's like a scheduled crash for bitcoin but yeah no one know.
466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How has past few months affected your gambling? on: February 04, 2018, 10:41:21 PM
Of course it didn't affect my winning/losing at all, but i gambled way less bitcoins than when their price was smaller, but i still gambled using same USD amount. I think it's same with everyone else, maybe some gamblers didn't play these weeks at all due to huge bitcoins, and their transaction fee, prices.
There might be some differences on btc value but still people would really play on usd amount on major cases i believe. On my side it doesnt really affect on how prices go with bitcoin since im just playing anytime with usd value no matter what would be the amounts of bitcoin can be spend as long i do already know the limits.
I personally always use use rates when bitcoin value skyrocketing, but take an opportunity to get a lot of bitcoin when the price crashes so I increase my bet amount in the last few weeks , love to take a risk as it's the meaning of this real life. Well at least that's what I've done.
467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Fear not,bitcoin will rebounce on: February 04, 2018, 10:25:23 PM
Im not on fear at all, im a trader for 2.5 year now and i know market how it goes, and corrections means a healthy crypto .. Anyway catch BTC @5800 then have a beautiful ride
It's shouldn't dropped at 5.8k , 7k are enough as my prediction as the best time to buy, even at 8k it would still best moment before things goes wild just like what we've experienced moving up more than 10 times, crypto are crazy risky, but when you know the market game , it's better place to make money rather than forex or stocks market.
468  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitsler support team has become more arrogant on: February 03, 2018, 08:19:35 PM
I think this is just a FUD against Bitsler from competitor with newbie account.
I had two tickets in past month and both issues was resolved quickly and the support 'tone' was polite.

Yes it is obviously FUD to make bitsler looks bad, but he did it very bad as well. He thinks that by spreading base-less accusation is a great way to destroy bitsler's reputation. He do not even try to give more replies in this thread, so we know what is the purpose of this thread.

Well we might have a different point of view, I feel the same like op , a little bit actually. In the end I admit things went wrong in my end not on their end, just the way they respond things looks like make people uncomfortable with their  sarcastic replies, just saying... It's my personal experience.
469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 03, 2018, 07:55:01 PM
Liverpool vs Tottenham - As a big Liverpool fan I’m desperately hoping for a home win but in reality Tottenham are a good team so any outcokebis possible in this match. I think the most likely winning bet if you’re looking to bet on this game is for both teams to score.

Liverpool is gonna win imo.  But a draw could also happen.  Big clubs tend to neutralize each other out.

Anyway, I have a weird feeling Burnley will draw vs City today...  Hmmmm.  I think Burnley is gonna tackle the sh*t out of that City midfield.

I'm out of the house now.  Can't watch the match.  Sad
Tottenham would try to stay away from arsenal at 6th position, they have a winner mentality after the last match against Manchester United rather than Liverpool lately, I wish Tottenham win the match and it might could be a boring match with a draw as result. I'll go for draw or away , not a bad odds really to give it a shot.
470  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why not play games online instead of gambling? on: February 03, 2018, 06:13:07 PM
It's not just for fun of course, they want a profit. Once you enter a gambling site your main aim is profit. I guess the reason why they are saying they only used small amount because they are just playing for fun is mainly they are afraid to lose big so they only trying small amount and saying those fun thing. When I was still in gambling, I never intend to have fun but for profit. Fun is only achievable if you are happy with the result of your playing.
And also the thrill are different when you play certain game put some money on it compared just to play a game without stake something, the expectation there makes the entertainment factor are so perfect make people addicted to gamble over and over again , sure it's ended up with money / profit as an orientation.
471  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The market fell sharply, what is going on? on: February 03, 2018, 05:32:05 AM
I wouldn't want to stay in USDT right now given everything that is on going and that is the reason for all this nasty swings it is the FUD, FUD and more FUD. Now of it really should make the market move this much but the fact the media keeps pounding it down our throats, I think some investors get scared off by this. Hoping things will revert back after the Chinese New Years here.

A good amount of correction has already happened and now due to media wrong interpret it is killing the pace which bitcoin should be rising. It is creating a panic among all and thus people are even selling in high losses which is kind of really killing them self. Holding for some time for now will make things more better and also will get the good uprise in Feb itself.


Perhaps this is the battle of information, many bad guys are drowning the market by gossiping false and untrue, it is difficult to select news and be sure HOLD.
Yeah just hold, it might take a long long time to bounce back or even for just recovering to the current all time high but it's sure in the future your holding would worth. Do it by now as long as you can afford to lose what you've invested in bitcoin, the whales are on the game now.
472  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin now below $10,000 on: February 02, 2018, 07:04:13 AM
I've been here from like 2014.

To me this is nothing but blatant market manipulation.

Most of you don't remember but the demand in India for Bitcoin was so high that exchanges had to pause trading because they were none for sale.

Now this "legal tender" fud they are throwing around is a big joke.
It's serious threat for those people who come to invest at the highest price around $15k to $19k , they are shocked especially a newcomer who didn't make a good plan enough. We might know that future price promising another ATH but of course it costs a lot of of time and you have to be patient otherwise things could went wrong and instead having some profit it provides you tons of problem.
473  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: February 01, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
Really a lot of surprising result yesterday. Definitely biggest upset was Chelsea losing at home 0:3 vs. Bournemouth. Didn't watch the game but result is awful even if they had some bad luck.

I thought that I might be able to secure easy money this time as I go for chelsea -1 and manchester united +1 parlay but too bad it didnt pull off. Also made a single bet for chelsea to win so Im losing 0.03 btc this week just from this game. I guess this is what gambling really is as unexpected things keep coming everytime , darn  Grin

Correct we thought sports betting is skill game and we will not lose more bets, but sometimes this kind of unexpected results made us lose big amount in a single shot. And this time we are getting too many surprising results don't know how to pick the right bets. I think last night many of our mates lost their bets. It's just unfortunate luck that's it. I was disappointed to see man united performance last night.

I never thought of it being a skill game, I know for some reason that chelsea is much better and losing is merely not an option for them that is why I am being confident with my bet. They dominate the game as well with their possesion, even created alot of chances but Begovic made atleast 3 or 4 saves

The funny thing is that the odds for bournemouth to win is at 10.00x  Cheesy
No one chase that odds unless they are the cherries fans itself. I'm not surprised on spurs vs united final score line, but this 0-3 lost to a struggling team like Bournemouth at their own home are a big loss for most bettor . Unlucky Chelsea where united down to spurs they should take that opportunity but they get slipped, the title race seems could ended with 5 or more games left for Manchester city.
474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Make-believe toy money (Bitcoin) is coming to an end on: February 01, 2018, 08:15:51 PM
It's a normal thing to see the market get a crazy crash , people with tons experience have anticipated something like this and those people who keep telling that bitcoin gonna die , disappeared etc are the one who feel so disappointed , expressing it through a frustrating words like that, not surprising at all. Since beginning bitcoin are a very risky business, remember to always use free money , always be patient, watch and learn . You might would remain to put hopes in bitcoin as a future economy system.
475  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why is bitcoin price so stable in 2018? on: February 01, 2018, 08:29:00 AM
Considering the fact that the year just started, it is still too early to jump into conclusion, regarding the state of bitcoin. The market is not static and so, cannot be stable. I see the market being at equilibrium and trying to get a support, which is why the price is hovering around 10k - 11k. 
Struggling, bitcoin market in risk to get drop even lower to get crash even worse. If then bitcoin value could survive at the price range of $12k to $13k for at least a couple weeks it might would remain volatile then. That's my thought.
476  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 5% each day trading Ethereum on: January 31, 2018, 11:40:04 PM
Hi Guys,

When daytrading Ethereum, do you think a profit of 5% will be possible?

What's the maximum percencentage per day in terms of profit?
More than 5%?

Love to see your opinions.
Cheers
Just think with different way , you did earned 5% daily for 15 days but then lost it in the next 30 days 2.5% daily which means you lost what you've earned plus wasted time. Then look at how people who just holding and successfully made a tremendous profit!
477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Could the Bitcoin price by the end of 2018 only 4000$ - 6000$? on: January 31, 2018, 11:06:46 PM
It would be a terrible thing if the Bitcoin pattern is the same as in 2013-2015, it could be the end of 2018 is only about 4000 $ -6000 $, as I think if it might happen?

Let's look at the pattern in 2013-2015 below:


and this is the pattern from 2016 to the present:


What if it really happened, give your opinion? Cheesy

Can't see why on the world you will based the "pattern" of 2013-2015 for what will be the situation for 2016-present.

Although literally that no one knows what will happened, it's kind of a non reasonable to think as of now that we will land going back to minimum $4,000 so that it will be identical on the past charts. Patterns are just patterns but the main thing to know is, why it was happened?

Always remember that past performance can't always guarantee future results.

For now, let's just watch how price will behave this upcoming days, weeks, months etc. Still long way to think of what will be the bitcoin price at the end of 2018.
I don't believe on such pattern could happens repeatedly. It might same accidentally, but things in bitcoin always changed by a lot of factors and it's usually unidentifiable accurately. So the charts with random reason why it could have the same situation just like 2013 2015 doesn't really makes sense.
478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: GOOD NEWS No Ban On Cryptocurrencies ¨South Korea¨ !!! on: January 31, 2018, 10:31:56 PM
Isn`t this old news? When they were talking a about total ban? They wanted to eliminate arbitrage and implement identification for all the traders. I don`t see normalization, we are still in bear mode ;s
Yeah it's an old news but not that old, they looking to completely ban every single thing involved Bitcoin but they do realize it's impossible, so they just try to create some regulations to those people who want to trade Bitcoin by asking the exchange to share the user data with certain institutions there, that's all.
479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Facebook Is Banning Ads for Bitcoin and ICOs on: January 31, 2018, 10:38:10 AM
Another negativity about bitcoin,surely it is gonna make downfall in bitcoin price in the coming days.Already the bitcoin price falling under $10K and I am not sure how much it is gonna fall.But I don't know what are the reasons for banning bitcoin ads.Few days back Mark told that they are going to create a new crypto currency for facebook payments but now they are banning crypto currency ads.Everyone is afraid of bitcoin or just they want to control the growth of bitcoin.Whatever I will hold my bitcoins surely it is gonna be the future currency of this world.So investors don't panic it is maybe a another dump created by whales.
Just because a big famous company like Facebook ban things involved Bitcoin ads doesn't mean it could affect the price of Bitcoin directly, I think it's doesn't make any sense. They have the rights to do it as they might consider mostly those people who advertise there uses Bitcoin as media to scam common people, I've seen a lot of annoying ads like that and it's indeed inappropriate.
480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Historic BITCOIN crash on: January 31, 2018, 10:09:38 AM
There are not really any bad news that are driving this, my conspiracy theory is that there will be a breakout soon and whales are pushing the price down now, to scare the speculators and the newbie traders. They need to buy more cheap coins and the only way to get people to sell their coins, is for them to artificially create a fake "dump".  ^hmmmmm^

Once the price reach a very low point, they will quickly buy up these cheap coins and more newbies and speculators will be pushed out of the market.
As per your statement it's seems some people are trying to make other people get bankrupt with that way , I don't think the market run as easy as like that. It's okay that's your theory. Fundamentals nowadays has big impact to the Bitcoin market, look at how the price of bitcoin soaring once korean exchange announced they would operate soon ,  back at the end of 2017. But this time I'm not sure the crash happened due some people create a panic atmosphere just like your general theory , it could be due the real huge selling occurred right?
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