@Spendulus, the Moon is 32 nautical miles wide and I can prove it in a court of law with a sextant. You would have to debunk/discredit "Yanoff, Myron; Duker, Jay S. (2009). Ophthalmology 3rd Edition. MOSBY Elsevier. p. 54. ISBN 978-0444511416" to win.
Be my guest, go right ahead. Show your work. It's all right here ( https://i.imgur.com/zS0G3hs.jpg), a pole of known height and distance then just add a Moon that measures 32 minuets: 1 minuet = 1 mile for the human eye. Size and distance are then known; 32 nautical miles wide at an altitude of ~3,100 nautical miles. Source: "Yanoff, Myron; Duker, Jay S. (2009). Ophthalmology 3rd Edition. MOSBY Elsevier. p. 54. ISBN 978-0444511416" You can literally see the ISS with your own eyes. With a camera you can see basically all the details, what is that then? If you think its some kind of plane then someone would have photos of it from another plane up close. |
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''These things you ask are scientifically proven by science that isn't included in the link.'' Baseless claim with no evidence, when has science proven that everything has a cause? There is no way to prove that, ever unless you can go back in time to make sure everything was created by something else.
The fact that there are countless things that have been shown to have been made by something else, combined with the fact that nothing has ever been shown to have made itself, scientifically proves that the universe was made by something outside itself. Why "scientific" and "proof?" Two major reason: 1. When the odds get high enough in a direction, science accepts that direction as fact; 2. Since the universal fact of no self-creation stands scientifically, something outside the universe created it. Why outside? Because if it were inside, it would be part of the universe. But it cannot be part of the universe, because the universe can't create itself, scientifically. Since you constantly want to believe in scientifically impossible odds, you are moving away from science into religion or philosophy. But maybe for you it is simply denial madness. Again, why is the "outside" Creator God? Because creating such a tremendous thing as the universe can only be done by someone that fits the definition of "God." So we see, from this alone, science proves the existence of God.  ''. When the odds get high enough in a direction, science accepts that direction as fact;'' Well, how are you calculating the odds here? Let's say earth has different 'items'. A person is an item, a truck is an item, etc. The earth right now has probably hundreds of millions of items, do you know the cause of all of them? How about for the last 10000 years, do you know the cause of every single item? Let's say you know the cause of 1 million items, 1 million items is only 1% of 100.000.000 but we are talking about several times that number and only about the earth. Let's consider our entire galaxy, how many items there? Trillions? What's 1 million compared to a trillion? around 0.00001%? And that's only 1 galaxy, so which odds are exactly high here badecker? |
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Sold the whole 0.108 BTC at 10800$ for 1165$
Sold LTC right now at 141.2$ and got 1005$
Current Balance: 2170$
Thinking of investing in VITE but I will probably just wait for their DEX to be released. I believe the coin will be dumped heavily and I will buy at lower prices.
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^^^ Clearly my ability to articulate the argument proves I've studied these physical experiments to some degree.
Your argument is always about me and never the subject matter at hand, clearly your interest lies with maintaining the status quo of "official" lies by any argument necessary (pipul) not determining facts from fiction.
No my argument is about how are you judging those experiments if you are not a scientist? How do you know you have enough knowledge to determine whether those experiments are what they claim to be? You have no answer to this because you simply believe them. |
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^^ the 1887 M&M experiment proved the Earth is motionless.
^^ Then in 1939 Dufour & Prunier replicated the Sagnac experiment taking rotating frames of reference into account thus falsifying relativity.
How do you know this? Did you determine it based on your extensive knowledge of science? How do you know you are suitable to interpret their results accurately if you haven't studied it?
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What do you think about putting some percentage in altcoins? Just DYOR and invest wisely..
I'm thinking of putting a good amount on BNB and VITE, I'm waiting for BNB to go down a little but at this point it's not looking likely heh. |
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You seem to be very confused about what an answer is.
An easy example you might understand: (probably not)
I ask, why do things fall down? An answer could be: they fall down because the earth is flat and accelerating upwards, is that a true answer though? No, just like the answers in the bible, its a statement with no evidence.
Science answers with gravity which can be measured and tested and you yourself admit its real, you admit science works better than religion.
Religion takes an overview of life. Science focuses on little pieces of stuff, and often comes up with stupidity regarding that stuff. If we had only science, we would stumble and die for lack of a big enough understanding of how to live. If we had only religion, we would simply go on with life as we have for thousands of years. You seem very confused about what the topic is. Did religion help edison, einstein, newton and every other genius/creator/inventor ?? Did it at all??? Did they need to know about god to invent or discover things? Of course not. We are here because of them, you can type stupid shit because of them not religion, religion didnt invent computers or the internet. Lol, actually modern science was headed by many men of faith, including some of the ones you mentioned, and it was important to them how they viewed the world and did their work. Many inventions have come about by people of faith, and even some from Divine revelation. But I ask you: did evolution create computers or the internet? No. The only way the questioner's question makes sense is with the assumption that "science" proves evolution, and disproves the Bible, which it does not. In fact, science keeps proving many of the things the Bible says (in addition to archeological evidence that it is true, along with other signs such as precisely fulfilled prophecy, etc). Age of the earth, age of the universe proves the bible to be a hoax. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errorsThere are a ton of scientific mistakes in the bible, again proving the bible to be science fiction. If another religion has more fulfilled prophecies would you change your religion to that one? A. There's much evidence that the Earth and Universe are young, if you looked at my original reply to this thread, there are at least two former Atheists who switched to being young-earth Creationists based on the evidence. Saying it is old is based on many assumptions, including the assumption that God does not exist and did not create anything (which is a BIG assumption), and their models are full of inconsistencies that constantly run into problems in nature, they cannot fully explain how the Universe formed with their models, therefore why would you trust them to know the age? There's a lot more evidence for a young Earth & Universe by the way than what they present in their presentations. Here's some from the original reply. -Spike Psarris: Science or Storytelling? Spike Psarris worked on a military space program, entering as an Atheist, become a Creationist based on the evidence, and then later becoming a Christian after that. https://youtu.be/gufYmnj0Gjw -Spike Psarris: Dinosaurs and the Age of the Earth https://youtu.be/REwIALE9P2g-What You Aren't Being Told About Astronomy - Vol. I (Our Created Solar System) See Volumes II (Our Created Stars and Galaxies) and III (Our Created Universe[?]) https://youtu.be/CzyQbOQ0dv0 -Why i believe in a young earth by ex-evolutionist Dr.Grady McMurtry Part 1 Another former Atheist, watch the other parts, I forget how many there are: https://youtu.be/uJGairhrPGc Also see: -Origins: Our Created Moon Here's a video about the moon from the show Origins hosted on the Cornerstone Network - watch all of their videos Cheesy https://youtu.be/Dk50bycmr_w-Check out SECTION 2 https://evolutionfacts.com/EncyclopediaTOC.htm And also: -Michael Egnor: The Evidence Against Materialism Neurosurgeon discusses how materialism is not supported by science, but rather hinders science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHrpBPdtSI&feature=youtu.be-James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin of Life James Tour is a world renown synthetic organic chemist, and deals with nanotechnology, and a Messianic Jew. Type in James Tour in Youtube, and you'll see a host of videos by him, including a couple directly related to your question. This video is as well, but the title isn't as direct. https://youtu.be/zU7Lww-sBPgB1. There is none. B2. There are many other evidences that the Bible is true, so no. B3. The fulfilled prophesies have impossible probabilities of being fulfilled, but they were, even in recent times, and more to come (ps, have you ever looked into the odds/probabilities of things happening by chance, such as the formation of a single protein? Beyond impossible odds... over, and over, and over again. Or that it's more probable [mathematically speaking] that you're a Boltzmann brain than that the Big Bang happened? That's essentially a fully formed floating brain in space that randomly popped into existence a short moment ago and will disappear in a few short moments, lol). God was there, and He gives us the historical record, which matches scientific evidence: young earth/universe, global flood, genetic Adam & Eve, genetic population bottleneck, diaspora of languages from a single point (also seen in genetics I believe), uniqueness of creatures in their DNA and reproducing after their kinds, geological evidence of people, places, and events throughout history, etc. Why do I care that a few idiots changed their mind and started believing in creationism? The evidence against a young earth is INSANELY HUGE. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Evidence_against_a_recent_creation There are literally dozens of different methods that all point to an earth far older than 10000 years old, it's not even close lol. |
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^^^ The location in space of planet Earth doesn't have anything to do with people. It has to do with the way God set up cause and effect, and the way He maintains the physics of it all. What does that have to do with bill gates inveting an operating system? Or einstein? Again, even the religious inventors and geniuses didnt need the bible to do what they did. Does the bible teach the scientific method? Does it teach a better method? Does it teach anything related to engineering, physics, math? Cause and effect in everything! This universe is on the way to being destroyed. Each person gets his proof of it when he dies. The purpose of the Bible is to save souls for the new universe... rather than leave them with this universe and its destruction. Why would anybody need the Bible for scientific stuff? That's not its purpose? The Bible is nothing more than a brainwashing fairy tale that had more power in earlier times when life was much more simple and mysteries remained. If it in inspires and guides you through life, more power to you. What proof do you have that it is a fairy tale? None. On the other hand, I can provide you with lots of evidence that it is not. See my original reply. Plenty, from the incoherent stories to the many scientific errors in it. Or simple logic, is god all powerful and knows everything? Then why would he need 7 days to create anything? Why would he need to rest? Why are we here if he already knows who will go to heaven? How will heaven prevent humans from doing bad things? Etc. You only need an IQ above 50 to understand the flawed logic. Sorry, there is no incoherent stories or scientific errors in it, unless you simply want to look at another Atheist's surface level explanation of things, instead of digging deeply into the matter and see what's really going on. And you wouldn't have logic unless a God of logic gave you the ability to reason, it would not have happened by chance. Because He chose to do it that way. To rest in that sense simply means He stopped creating, which is fairly obvious in the context. There's nothing flawed about God choosing to do things certain ways, and us not understanding it, that's our lack of understanding, it is flawed to believe that the complexity and design and immensity of life and the Universe came from nothing, and that we are descendants of rocks, or that things don't produce after their kinds as we have always observed. The Bible does say that the prolonging of Christ's return is for your chance to repent and turn to Him so you can be saved. As to what will prevent humans from doing bad in Heaven, the Bible is very cleary: A. when Jesus comes back He will do away with everything evil. B. We will be changed to be like Him (the process of which begins when you get filled with the Holy Spirit now). In essence, we will no longer have a sin nature, nor anything evil wondering around in Heaven / the New Earth. The Bible describes this type of attitude in 1 Corinthians 1:18 "For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God." The crucifixion and the resurrection are facts of history, so regardless of what we don't understand, we have to deal with that fact. See near the bottom of my original reply to this thread for more. ''And you wouldn't have logic unless a God of logic gave you the ability to reason, it would not have happened by chance.'' Logical Fallacy, False Dilemma: A false dilemma is a type of informal fallacy in which something is falsely claimed to be an "either/or" situation, when in fact there is at least one additional option.It is not flawed to believe that god made mistakes, otherwise why did he need to kill everyone and start again? |
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Where in your link do you prove the existence of just 1 creator and not multiple? Where in the link do you prove the existence of "outside the universe" and where do you prove that everything has a cause? The info in the link is just part of the proof. These things you ask are scientifically proven by science that isn't included in the link. However, why do you waste the time asking? You only accept science when it promotes your ideals. So, it doesn't really matter to you what the answers to your questions might be. ''These things you ask are scientifically proven by science that isn't included in the link.'' Baseless claim with no evidence, when has science proven that everything has a cause? There is no way to prove that, ever unless you can go back in time to make sure everything was created by something else. |
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So yeah, basically I will start with $2000 in bitcoin and try to convert it into $10000 using any kind of investment I want ranging from trading to gambling or any other weird investment that you can think of, in fact I would love to hear your ideas and I might use them.
Do not engage in gambling, You can have a lot of headaches and lose all your money. do not get involved with Hyip/ponzi sites because you can lose all your money For now I will be placing a stop buy order for LTC on Binance at $139.9 of $1000. My litecoins are now worth 976$ you could have waited to see if the price would not fall and then you buy and hold for 2 months Litecoin Block Reward Halving CountdownNah, did it based on Technical Analysis, it simply didn't work this time but could still play out. |
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ltc order got filled but no follow through, unlucky. The 0.1 btc (1000$) is now worth 1058$ and I have set a stop loss at 9642$ on Binance. My litecoins are now worth 976$
Current balance: 2034$
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Where in your link do you prove the existence of just 1 creator and not multiple? Where in the link do you prove the existence of "outside the universe" and where do you prove that everything has a cause? |
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^^^ God has shown you that He exists in such away that is not limiting your ability to not accept it. You should be thanking God for the freedom He is giving you. If god did that, why do I not believe in him then? I would gladly accept god and I would like a god to exist, I was a believer so I clearly know what it is to believe, I simply cannot believe anymore because he hasn't shown me enough evidence. If he wanted to, he would have convinced me already, why hasn't he? |
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^^^ We've been over this long ago. All people know enough way down deep to make a choice for God or against Him. God holds this open for them. The info is there. They make their choice. Don't give yourself so little credit for having free will. You aren't being forced to be against God. You are choosing such. Since God wants you to have this freedom - so that it will be your own doing if you go to Hell - consider the evidence and proof for God, and make the right choice, so that you go to Heaven. ^^^ We've been over this long ago. All people know enough way down deep to make a choice for God or against Him. God holds this open for them. (Baseless claim with no evidence provided) The info is there. They make their choice. Don't give yourself so little credit for having free will. You aren't being forced to be against God. You are choosing such. Since God wants you to have this freedom - so that it will be your own doing if you go to Hell - consider the evidence and proof for God, and make the right choice, so that you go to Heaven. (Having free will doesn't stop god from convincing me of his existence, for instance when I'm trying to teach you about science, am I taking your free will away? Of course not, am I taking your free will away if I convince you of ghost's existence? Nope. God could convince me if he wanted but he doesn't.) |
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^^^ Very often doctors can't figure out the reason why their patients live or die, based on all the work they have done with them. Miracles. Logical fallacy, argument from ignorance. ''An argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), or appeal to ignorance ('ignorance' stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary"), is a fallacy in informal logic. It says something is true because it has not yet been proved false. Or, that something is false if it has not yet been proved true. This is also called a negative proof fallacy. This also includes the (false) assumption there are only two options (true or false). There may be as many as four choices:'' Just because we don't know why it doesn't mean you can call it a miracle since you also don't know if it really was one, you are using lack of evidence as evidence. |
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So yeah, basically I will start with $2000 in bitcoin and try to convert it into $10000 using any kind of investment I want ranging from trading to gambling or any other weird investment that you can think of, in fact I would love to hear your ideas and I might use them.
For now I will be placing a stop buy order for LTC on Binance at $139.9 of $1000.
Current Balance: 2170$
Balance day 1: 2000$
Balance day 2: 2034$
Balance day 3: 2170$
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What proof do you have that it is a fairy tale? None. On the other hand, I can provide you with lots of evidence that it is not. See my original reply.
How about the Bible verses that talk about unicorns, witches, wizards, and magic? Science is digging out things that have been unknown. Average people don't know these things. So, science is essentially discovering magical things. God knew all about those things long ago. Some of them He had written down in the Bible. The true magic lies in the miracles God does that don't follow the laws of nature. Science is digging out things that have been unknown. Average people don't know these things. So, science is essentially discovering magical things. (Incoherent logical assertion, science discovering things that people don't know doesn't make them magical)
God knew all about those things long ago. Some of them He had written down in the Bible. (Like for example?)The true magic lies in the miracles God does that don't follow the laws of nature. (Baseless claim with no evidence) |
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