Yeah BTC halves. Still dropping how many coins on the market every day for 4 years more? Math that out  The only way BTC goes to the MOON loonie toonie again is if it becomes the replacement to the dollar, and that means central bankers from Beijing to Singapore to Zurich to DC start buying it out. The market cap of BTC is just about right. BTC is a payment rail of about $40M-$129M per day. Sure it might peg high again @ $12-25B but then it will just drift south for 3-4 years. I hear $650 talking in the street, maybe. Burn some to the MOON! noobs by runnin it back down 'hard' to test $180 supports. |
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tiggytomb recommends TRI (bounty 50 TALK to tiggy and 50 TALK for whoever gets him here) I just don't know anymore with the Alts, the ones I thought might have a pretty future like XAI are looking more like a scam and it's rife with scams all over the place. I will keep an eye on this thread to see what the response is. there is one Alt I am sticking with as I have been there since the start and it is a no BS coin, TRI (Triangles) small supply, good devs with updates as and when, no promises made, cool Android app Trider, and a catchy little tagline "you know why..."  ps ... please PM addies so I can send you tips |
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Three words... Bar... Bee... Cue
BBQ king of crypto (by year 2142 AD) QUESTION which altcoin would be bitcoins likely replacement ? ETH ... the big money is already behind it, but the average investor is likely gonna get burned out. Other than that ... none. Until it becomes clear that BTC is defeatable and that will take years. Coins like Digi, VNL, Monero, UNO, NXT, FTC, and others could claim parts but not the whole of the bitcoin empire. Currency vs stores-of-value vs DACs vs wide-fair-distro ... bitcoin has laid claim on them all but in actuality weak in spots |
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POW ... DIME ... at 9,999,999 coins every 2 minutes. making 240 ltc a day scamming the market with false blocks? evidence is strong. Again who is generating false blocks of 99,999,999 coin every hour?  Your stealing my coins! 99,999,999 an hour ago 99,999,999 2 hours ago 99,99,999 3 hrs ago ect I do have the ip address do you want me to list it?  I see you just dropped another 99,999,999 coins. WTF AMAZING  IS THAT YOU LULUPON ? 7PwTaqJc8zXtVDifckyDHSYG25MyFPs26W at 9,999,999 coins every 2 minutes. making 240 ltc a day through false blocks. It's called theft. |
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Well seems there's been lots of smoke blown in to the digital universe.
Private Side Chains are raising $millions in VC monies, is the why.
Public side chains are already clear and present. So correct ... "Why don't they?"
CW still wants to 'discover' and get in on the 'next bitcoin'.
Rather than look for sidechain (cough ALTs with fast block speeds) as a means to transmit BTC like lightning quick.
That means (basically) one giant global order book, where a 'cartel' of popular btc exchanges via 'side'chains (cuz can't omit that ALTs could do it) weave all the markets into one real time eXchange ... and can settle up (at least mostly) in under 60 seconds with ALTs and unwind that 'agreement/contract' as soon as bitcoin can be sent.
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RE: What are the side chain settlement solutions?private vs. publicBlockstream = Lightning Network 'private' side chains for the BTC big boys. LoLz It works until one of the partners screws up on settlement.  But already there are operating ALTs that can function as 'Lightning' forms of settlement and clearing houses just unwind/trade back to bitcoin positions as they please (in 45min-12hr windows) .... you know at bitcoin confirmation speed. XRP is designed to do this. But seems to have forgotten. DASH could do it. STELLAR is better designed to do this. BTS, NXT, XCP, PeerGroup, and XEM can create 'pegged' assets to do this. NuShare and Omni already have 'pegs' that appear to work. A wide array of ALTs can collectively serve to do this ... all in the open public market arena.
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get smart(er) every day INFORMATION --- Five major bitcoin startups – Bitfinex, BTCC, Kraken, Unocoin and Xapo – will operate the private sidechain, allowing partner exchanges to move funds between order books without the need to transfer funds on the bitcoin blockchain. ----- Top 5 of 2016 according to coindesk Blockstream = Lightning Network 'private' side chains (protoe bcf) tØ of Medici by retail giant Overstock, tØ aims to revolutionise securities by making trade and settlement on a blockchain (nxt assets) OpenBazaar = open-source competitor to eBay (BAY, DOT) $1M Zapchain = social media platform with tipping (RDD) BitFury = ASIC chip maker announced on 16th December that it will bring a new ASIC chip to market in Q1 2016 (asic) $60m raised ---- "Bitcoin may be destined to become a high-powered money rather than a day-to-day payment system for the masses." - Nick Szabo, 2011 (unenumerated.blogspot.co.uk) SmartCoin [SMC] is listed: https://yobit.net/en/trade/SMC/BTCSmartCoin Dice: https://yobit.net/en/dice/SMC
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Blockstream has to date raised $21m from investors including AME Cloud Ventures, Blockchain Capital, Future\Perfect Ventures and LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman. Further, its team consists of some of the more noted developers in the space including Adam Back, Gregory Maxwell, Matt Corallo and Pieter Wuille.
http://www.coindesk.com/blockstream-commercial-sidechain-bitcoin-exchanges/
One of the more well-funded startups, Blockstream is nonetheless a self-described ‘stealth bitcoin company’ working on accelerating the development of cryptocurrency, open asset and smart contact technology.
its banner sidechains project and announcing its first commercial product, Liquid, which is aimed at speeding up transfer times between bitcoin exchanges, in 2015.
One of the projects that Blockstream has decided to explore further is the Lightning Network – a proposal that would move smaller bitcoin transactions off the blockchain so they could occur more quickly with reduced fees. It nonetheless recreates the trustless nature of the current network design.
The Lightning Network has the ability to reduce the total number of transactions that need to be settled on the bitcoin blockchain, and thus removes their affect on the necessary total size of blocks.
The network faces technical challenges before it can go live, though, such as the integration of various changes to Bitcoin Core. I believe we will see most of these issues resolved and that Blockstream, or perhaps even a different party, will launch its version of Lightning during 2016.
This will greatly relieve the current buildup of pressure surrounding the block size discussion, and add to the robustness of the bitcoin network.
tØ
tØ is a blockchain-based trading platform created by online retail giant Overstock, first announced in August. Part of the firm’s larger Medici arm, tØ aims to revolutionise securities by making trade and settlement occur simultaneously using blockchain technology.
While the SEC did recently approve Overstock’s plan to issue stock via blockchain technology, Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne said in a recent article by Motherboard that it might not use the bitcoin blockchain as part of its efforts.
"Maybe we're not going to use the bitcoin blockchain ... Maybe there's another blockchain we want to integrate with, with higher throughput," he told the news source.
This comment is in reference to the bitcoin block size, as a limited number of transactions also results in a limited number of instant settlements the company can offer.
Continuing with my belief that the block size issue will be addressed during 2016 in some way, I also believe tØ will utilise the bitcoin blockchain as opposed to a private blockchain due to bitcoin’s decentralised, secure and relatively trustless nature.
If this comes about, this would be the first major security settlement product released that utilises bitcoin, and a key milestone in bitcoin’s history.
OpenBazaar
OpenBazaar is currently working on one of the most compelling consumer applications for bitcoin out there with the development of a decentralised marketplace.
If successful, OpenBazaar would essentially serve as an open-source competitor to eBay that has reduced fees for all parties due to its decentralised nature.
OpenBazaar faces what I believe to be relatively trivial challenges in launching, including the development of a robust reputation system and the classic chicken-and-egg problem of acquiring volume in a new marketplace.
However, with its recent venture capital fundraise of $1m in June 2015, I believe we will see the highly anticipated launch and expansion of OpenBazaar during 2016.
Zapchain
Zapchain is a social media platform powered by bitcoin and is one of my personal favourite companies.
The startup’s integration of on-chain bitcoin micropayments for tipping is a truly revolutionary idea that fosters high-quality user engagement and content creation amongst various self-created communities.
Zapchain’s biggest hurdle lies in its ability to continue its growth, while avoiding spam users.
From what I have seen of Zapchain, though, its ability to curb spammers has proved effective and the platform is currently more popular than ever.
During 2016, I predict Zapchain will continue its growth in non-bitcoin related communities and also become recognised as a top bitcoin news platform. Zapchain embodies the spirit of bitcoin, and also provides a key alternative to some controversially moderated bitcoin communities.
BitFury
The best-funded bitcoin mining company with over $60m raised so far, BitFury announced on 16th December that it will bring a new ASIC chip to market in Q1 2016.
The launch of its new data centre in Georgia could double the total bitcoin network hashing rate, leading some to worry about the integrity of bitcoin’s mining decentralisation.
I believe this risk is perhaps overstated and that the major net effect of BitFury's innovations will be increased (and possibly almost doubled) security for the network.
Furthermore, affecting the integrity of bitcoin’s decentralised nature would act against BitFury’s best interests as a bitcoin company.
BitFury CEO, Valery Vavilov, has also reflected this sentiment, suggesting his company intends to act in the interests of the network as a whole.
http://www.coindesk.com/5-bitcoin-blockchain-startups-watch-2016/ |
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SBI is the largest online bank in Japan founded in 2007 (by much older companies) with over 2,000,000 customers, access at every convenience store in Japan, and 3.4 trillion yen (27 billion USD) in holdings. They are looking to use NEM’s blockchain technology and services built on top of it to expand their reach as a digital bank. https://www.sbigroup.co.jp/english/company/group/netbank.html |
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 My opinion here. agree (mostly) and great grafixs! RE: the top10 yes BTC is the only fiat to crypto tool of importance but I think LTC and XRP are hard embedded as markets #2 & #3 so I see a strong relationship with BTC and 2 dozen ALTs after that the other 500 cryptos are better served working with NOT bitcoin markets LTC really has not created any solid markets for ALTs but hold title #1 crypto trading pair to BTC XRP has the cryptsy market but that just might disappear with cryptsy and has failed to expand eXchange adoption [Dash could replace XRP for the functional low inflation high volume coin] Doge stands to capture 100s of micro crypto markets and thus become useful! Doge also popular with the average person. BTC has been captured by higher market players and is risky business for normal everyday folks. ETH .. true .. closed off and likely headed for a long bear drift south. But holds enough high ground to retain top 5 position. Yet BTS and NXT and XCP and OMNI and XEM have attached assets. Not true for ETH. But big money is backing the project. TOP 5 BTC, xrp, LTC, eth, DOGE there are the digital 'currencies' ... constant liquidity required Every one else is a digital 'project' and must produce a product other than a trading coin
SMARTx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=675821.msg12641135#msg12641135
 addendum; PPC, NAME, XPM, and perhaps XMR are solidified at Tier2 level digital 'currencies'. Granted NAME could loss this title if the project is still stagnant by 2017. Tier3 players included BLK, the crypto 2.0 group, Nova, DGB, FTC, VTC. And there are many contenders still stuck under $500k, that offer differing currency designs that could in years to come move to top10 rankings. last Cry trades http://pastebin.com/8hmcBsd2 |
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thought SYS is MM with litecoin network?
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What is in your opinion the best altcoin to invest in for 2015 and why. Pls add why  Personally I have interest in some older 'proven to be solid-' POS coins with not too high stake, it dillutes the amount of existing coins and it will be harder for the price to rise. So I decided to hold lots of CBX with only 2% max annual inflation and technically flawless. HZ has real good potential, it may follow in the footsteps of NXT but also has it's own path of developments. CBX: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951753.0HZ: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823785.0Added on to Primecoin, 10,000 sat is just way too cheap not to buy  LTC: always attractive RDD: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=423597.0RDD has never done me well, break even. Will probably miss the train because patience has gone. not bad calls OP note 16 MONTHS ago 2015 picks so no shilling candles or cubes |
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seeketh the great LIST of lists that list collections of lists good now that you've achieved the old list i might tidy that OP list up some |
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From all the merge mined coins Uno does make the most sense because it has a rewardstructure with a lot of foresight.
Now look at IXC and i0C - both have almost no community support but still are valued higher. This i don't understand. Maybe it's because they are older?
Uno has better brand, bigger community and better rewardshedule, so it should gain longterm relative to other mm-coins.
balu2 thought about this too ... my best guess on the "Why" 1. older which means that iX i0 caught summer 2013 'buy all ALTs!' up draft ... world, mega, terra, asic, fanko, bitbar, everybody that had a coin got $Millions in marketcap evaluation 2. where to buy? i0 required knowing a guy, that knows a guy, that went to college with the roomate of a guy who has some. MARKET exposure = limited. 3. whales. see unfair early days distro. 4. $50 gets you 33% increase in iXc marketcap ... LOLz ... just means there's no liquidity/market I still think iX and i0 are interesting projects ... but UNO long ago pasted them in Market/Community/Tech. UNO is walking the long walk, the real deal, and the real deal is building up real marketcap that weathers any storm and always expanding the number of exchanges & markets & functional use. ===== $1,754,786.38What is the approx. cost of hardware required to attempt a 51% attack on network UNO? https://www.coingecko.com/en?page=2 |
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quote of the day Merry Christmas !
Religion and sex usualy ends badly. There are fetishes like nuns but let's not go crazy here, yet. |
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i vote for crunck
is a working client possible?
if so then most def in favor;
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no need to read co9mments above.
gut check opiniojn on what DVC ought be:
bitcoin foundation >>> devs programming 24/7; THUS fund;
other than that it was a boondoggle and bonus check for anyone-SHA256-uber-farmers on an MM pool
project = fail; loop if thus far(Fail);
reorganization = NEEDED;
ELSE IF (1) >> move to next level;
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