So, that is your excuse for refusing to define what you see as the parameters regarding murder? Yet, no one is to question you when you proclaim an act is murder? LOL.
You are not interested in discussion, but just expressing your anger. I mention about God knowing our hearts - and it is true. But, really, takes no revelation to see through yours.
We have discussed this seriously. It is you who keeps dragging this on & on & on & on because you have been proved wrong and you can't handle it. |
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You can answer this question (any of you) also, in seeking to define what murder is:If someone puts to death a family of chimpanzees - is it murder, or not? Why?
You don't get to ask questions when you refuse to answer any put to you. You are such a waste of human flesh... you can't think for yourself. You can't even post your personal opinion of murder. It is silly to accuse the Creator of murder - but even sillier when one does not even nail done a definition of murder, so we can then apply it. Of course in your mind, your "creator" deliberately and with premeditation causing a flood to kill all but a handful of human beings is not murder. I believe you are suffering from his brain over-heating. It's must be quite stressful to constantly deny what is right in front of your face. The human brain is not design to deal with so much inconistansies. A person can only do so much, "Ignore the truth and cling to the lies", before a mental melt-down occurs |
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You can answer this question (any of you) also, in seeking to define what murder is:If someone puts to death a family of chimpanzees - is it murder, or not? Why?
You don't get to ask questions when you refuse to answer any put to you. You are such a waste of human flesh... you can't think for yourself. You can't even post your personal opinion of murder. |
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Again, what makes something murder?
It is a question I have asked you before, but you never answered it. Answer the question yourself. If your "creator" commanded you to kill another human being, would you do it? It is an important question, especially for someone like you in your mentally/emotionally ill condition. There are many cases of mentally/emotionally disturbed people killing other people because they believed "god" told them to do it. |
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Are you kidding? Give me two interns and a month and I can create a whole new religion with more pages than the bible.Except God in the Bible never gives instructions to murder anyone. Again, what makes something murder?
33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. 34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain -Deut 2 16 However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy them - the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusite - as the LORD your God has commanded you. -Deut 20 20 For it was of the LORD to harden their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that He might utterly destroy them, and that they might receive no mercy, but that He might destroy them, as the LORD had commanded Moses. -Joshua 11 24 And it came to pass when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness where they pursued them, and when they all had fallen by the edge of the sword until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned to Ai and struck it with the edge of the sword. 25 So it was that all who fell that day, both men and women, were twelve thousand - all the people of Ai. 26 For Joshua did not draw back his hand, with which he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai. -Joshua 8 Nah! That's not "murder"! |
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The better question is why "god" created it in the first place.It is ridiculous to discuss "god" judging anything that this same "god" created.
How many times does this "god" have to kill-off humans and re-create them?
Did "god" somehow become "surprised" by his "creation" four times!!!! ?
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Did any of you pin-heads wonder why your "creator" created "evil" in the first place?Did any of you pin-heads ever question why your "creator" was so narcissistic?
If your "creator" was such a great deal, why would his "creation" not worship it without question?
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You can't provide even one shred of proof your "creator" exists. You just as "atheist" as anyone else, zolace.
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PS. I'm not an atheist. An atheist strongly believes there is no higher power. I believe there may be an unknown power involved in the Universe's origins, and we just have no clue what it is and the bible is a fable.
A copy of the Bible book of Isaiah was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. Outside of minor changes in the forms of the letters, the "old" Isaiah was virtually the same as the one that is used by the Jews today. Now what kind of deluded people would copy by hand so accurately, something that was simply a fable? When you copy kids' stories by hand over dozens of generations, they change. Something happened way back at the time of Moses that was so earth-shattering that the people of Israel carry the tradition in their minds and hearts, right down to today. If the Bible were a fable, it would not exist.  Every atheist I have ever met has been joyful. As an agnostic, I am about as happy a person you will ever meet. My wife says I make her sick how I sing in the shower every morning no matter what. You have no evidence atheists are not happy. So, its just here that you are unhappy. Well, that begets some interesting questions. Ok, went looking through the link, scanning. Could find nothing about atheists, let alone happy atheists. So, with Norway being at the top of the list, and (I assume you are correct on this) them having a larger than usual percentage of atheists in the population, you have assumed that some conclusion can be made from atheists on that, yes? Did you notice what factors were noted in the article that it said were factors in that rating? I am not unhappy here. I love calling you an asshole and a moron. I am having a blast. You have some nerve thinking you are capable of telling me how I feel. I guess I should assume you are very unhappy in here since you are always getting your ass kicked ...no?? You make a good point, in that, zolace is not only unable to prove atheism is "bad", zolace can't provide any reasonable argument that his brand of beliefs are "good". |
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To clarify the 'hope' - how would you 'sell' the idea? Humans want both truth and hope - but usually hunger for hope more.
And since there is agreement that not all dictators are evil, do we have an example of a dictator promoting atheism that was not evil?
you are probably right. Noth Korea was a wonderful place before the dictator promoted state atheism. That was when they plummetted into the despair of human rights abuses. If Kim Jong only he let the people have their religion, then he wouldnt have abused them so much. Makes perfect sense The fact other majority atheist nations have a population with low crime and happy people must be the spurious relationship. The fact almost none of the 9% of american atheists are in prison can only mean Satan is helping them avoid capture by the godly police....because clearly they are all without morals and abusers of human rights. Your people have had more than 2000 years/ You've had a good run, but today people as stupid as you are a dying breed. Today, and in the future people understand that the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and Jesus are all the same. Even today, people know you are a lying sack of shit when you say Jesus answers your prayers. You can't present anything that supports your beliefs. Can you give us any good reason to believe that you are not just paranoid/delusional ? For all practical purposes,you are an atheist. If a person talks like an atheist, thinks like an atheist, and poops like an atheist, well.... And no reasonable person would gather from his posts that rigon is happy - but, then, no reasonable person is making such a claim (rigon may not call himself an atheist either, but, see 2nd sentence above). You all clearly have anger issues. As I've stated in another post...You are "broken", and it really doesn't matter what labels YOU assign to us. I will not presume to speak for others. Well, clearly you are blind even towards yourself. If there is anyone here who has had several folk point out his issues, it is you, guy. When you can be honest about yourself, well, then we will see. In zolace world, the only way to be "happy" is to deliberately make yourself ignorant, suspend all reason and mindlessy believe fairy tales. |
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To clarify the 'hope' - how would you 'sell' the idea? Humans want both truth and hope - but usually hunger for hope more.
And since there is agreement that not all dictators are evil, do we have an example of a dictator promoting atheism that was not evil?
you are probably right. Noth Korea was a wonderful place before the dictator promoted state atheism. That was when they plummetted into the despair of human rights abuses. If Kim Jong only he let the people have their religion, then he wouldnt have abused them so much. Makes perfect sense The fact other majority atheist nations have a population with low crime and happy people must be the spurious relationship. The fact almost none of the 9% of american atheists are in prison can only mean Satan is helping them avoid capture by the godly police....because clearly they are all without morals and abusers of human rights. Your people have had more than 2000 years/ You've had a good run, but today people as stupid as you are a dying breed. Today, and in the future people understand that the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and Jesus are all the same. Even today, people know you are a lying sack of shit when you say Jesus answers your prayers. You can't present anything that supports your beliefs. Can you give us any good reason to believe that you are not just paranoid/delusional ? For all practical purposes,you are an atheist. If a person talks like an atheist, thinks like an atheist, and poops like an atheist, well.... And no reasonable person would gather from his posts that rigon is happy - but, then, no reasonable person is making such a claim (rigon may not call himself an atheist either, but, see 2nd sentence above). You all clearly have anger issues. As I've stated in another post...You are "broken", and it really doesn't matter what labels YOU assign to us. I will not presume to speak for others. |
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To clarify the 'hope' - how would you 'sell' the idea? Humans want both truth and hope - but usually hunger for hope more.
And since there is agreement that not all dictators are evil, do we have an example of a dictator promoting atheism that was not evil?
you are probably right. Noth Korea was a wonderful place before the dictator promoted state atheism. That was when they plummetted into the despair of human rights abuses. If Kim Jong only he let the people have their religion, then he wouldnt have abused them so much. Makes perfect sense The fact other majority atheist nations have a population with low crime and happy people must be the spurious relationship. The fact almost none of the 9% of american atheists are in prison can only mean Satan is helping them avoid capture by the godly police....because clearly they are all without morals and abusers of human rights. Your people have had more than 2000 years/ You've had a good run, but today people as stupid as you are a dying breed. Today, and in the future people understand that the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus and Jesus are all the same. Even today, people know you are a lying sack of shit when you say Jesus answers your prayers. You can't present anything that supports your beliefs. Can you give us any good reason to believe that you are not just paranoid/delusional ? |
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Believing in the Buddha has really led those monks down the path of evil hasnt it? Seriously that may have been the dumbest thing you have ever said. And in the long litany of that has come off your keyboard there is some stiff competition for the award. I suppose you will be the first person to volunteer to put those evil bastards to death.
The evil of believing in the Buddha isn't in the fact of the good living that they proclaim. It is in the fact that they think that anybody can ever be good enough to live forever one way or another. Eternal life isn't something mystical. Rather, it is something ultra-scientific. It is logical. For example, if you could take all the pollution out of our lives, and add only wholesome foods, destroy the inherent degradations in our cells, and think only pure thoughts, we could live for a long time - maybe hundreds of years. The problem is, we don't know what it is like to do this. Buddhism goes in that direction somewhat. The problem with Buddhism is that it doesn't, can't, go far enough, just like Hinduism. While Christianity doesn't go as far as Buddhism and Hinduism in the actual living, practical operations, Christianity goes all the way in preparing people for eternal life. God is ultimately going to destroy this universe because of the evil that has come about in it; God can't stand even the tiniest bit of evil. He is offering us a method in faith in Jesus to gain eternal life in the New Universe He is creating... a Universe that will have no evil in it, no flaws, no capability for potential mistakes, yet freedom, love, and goodness for all who live therein. You are free to make your choice. God might entice you, He might call to you, He slap you around a little, all so that you wake up and join with Him. He is the only way to eternal life. He is doing it for your own good. No matter what you think, history makes it obvious that everyone dies in this life. At least giver yourself a chance. Turn to God. why dont you tell us the context in which an instruction to kill women and children for a belief in another god is OK? Can you do that or will you do the normal thing and allude to some hidden context in some scripture whereby we are supposed to use our ESP to figure out exactly what you might be referring to? I really dont need a response like...."you clearly ignored the context in Chapter/verse" orthe above ":note that you refuse to consider context". Ive heard you say shit like that now for days without actually ever explaining the context that might make murdering people OK. Tell us the context where killing women and children for a belief is OK and dont simply allude to it. When is it OK for me to put my neighbor to death for believing in another god? Why was it OK for people to do it back then? If context matters so much, why have you not yet shared the context that can make killing others for their beliefs acceptable? This seems to be the thrust of your argument...so fucking make it already!!! I anxiously await a detailed description of the exact context that makes it OK to kill people for their beliefs. I would like to - and thus my questions to you as to what makes somethiing murder. Are you saying humans are more than just another type of animal? Your responses certainly demonstrate that you do think so, regardless of your 'offical position'. Your entire childish argument revolves around everyone believing ..... "If The Bible is True..." You refuse to acknowledge that The Bible has been proved to be nothing but a sack of shit. Only a mentally and emotionally like you continues debate using The Bible as if it were relevent. You can not use one fairy tales to prove another fairy tale real. I know that you,refuse to understand that fact, but you are the only person in the room who is so utterly stupid to refuse to accept it. |
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Why is everyone dancing around the core issue....?
The Bible is not historically accurate. In other words, for the sake of discussion, The Bible is a lie. THe events in the Bible never happened. It is a work of fiction.
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To clarify the 'hope' - how would you 'sell' the idea? Humans want both truth and hope - but usually hunger for hope more.
And since there is agreement that not all dictators are evil, do we have an example of a dictator promoting atheism that was not evil?
Josef Goebells was Adolph Hilter's closest associate and propaganda minister who said (paraphrased).... "Keep repeating the lie... eventually the people will believe it's the truth..". |
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Maybe the reason we didn't wake Maliki up is because he made it easier for us to walk away. If true, you can be pretty certain it will never be acknowledged.
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If Robin offed himself then I can't really give him a whole lot of sympathy unless he was dying from a terminal disease. I never could understand how a person who has practically everything in life could just decide to check out one day because life is just so depressing. I guess the rest of us who live in the real world are just too busy trying to make ends meet while our government picks our pockets and lies to us to become drug addicted and depressed.
However this seems to happen all the time among the Hollywood elites, musicians, and other famous people who kill themselves with drugs and alcohol. Could it be their guilt of becoming rich and receiving accolades, adulation, awards, and trophies for doing nothing more than entertaining us? Maybe Robin just came to the realization that even Honey Booboo and Si Robinson are capable of entertaining the ignorant masses. I will leave the celebrity worship to the rest of you because I look up to a different caliber of individual.
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I never could understand the psychology of celebrity worship. I have far more sympathy for those who actually sacrificed something for us all like our military veterans. You know, the ones who we put on medical waiting lists while they die. I mean, who here wouldn't trade places with Robin relative to them who sacrificed so much. I just heard Larry King on Fox say Robin gave us a gift we could never repay and I wanted to gag.
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So sorry to hear this, he has brought so many fond memories. I cannot accept he committed suicide, it could be drug overdose but I doubt he would ever give up even in this life. Hard to say what my favorite Robin Williams role was. Probably Mrs. Doubtfire. What a huge loss.....
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Elimination of religious dogma that makes people beleve they are born "evil".
How totally fucked-up is it to teach children from DAY ONE that they are born "bad"?
Are you even capable of knowing how fucked-up your religion is?
You say you are not an atheist - so I ask you: Why do you believe in things without any evidence for them? If you say you are simply agnostic - many agnostics are just atheists under the cover. I'm not agnostic,Zolace. When are you ever going to get that thru your thick skull. I do not believe anything that has been proved wrong; ie, your religious beliefs. You are saying you are not an atheist, nor agnostic. Why don't you come right out and say what you believe? Theist? Pantheist? What? It doesn't matter what YOU think I believe. You are the one who continues digging the hole. Your religious beliefs are wrong, and the evidence supports it. |
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