It's funny, how fast the revolutionary artists/coders become the money hungy establishment.
When there are hughe amounts of money involved, people change their ideals, it's human nature.
There is too much money invested in Eth, they will make it work and keep on pumping it.
Imo Etc will not hold onces all the eth holders start dumping.
But I argue why do they need to dump? There is no good in dumping ETC especially if you're an ETH holder. It is more profitable if you support both. Even the miners think so. Some of them are mining both the original and the forked chains right now. Why dump etc? - You invented eth, and don't want a clone around. - The 'hacked' coins can be dumped anytime. - For 'mainstream' adoption, two chains is confusing. We have between 17 and 33% of ETH hashrate. There will be two chains until ETH dies. Its no longer about price. Ethereum are crooks and will soon be under investigation.
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TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. ITS ON EVERY PAGE @ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559630.new#newi guess to find out if there is an investigation about the 150 mill hack in thedao one has to call the cops in germany couse slockit is registed in germany. Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655 dao is on there biz page . so they are responsible. even if the say no. hmmm i was searching for a report intry number but cant find any. so is it true they didnt report it ? This needs to be looked in to? In case you also want to alarm the Swiss police here is their direct phone number: +41 117Tell them that Ethereum Foundation had planned a hard fork before The DAO hack. They might help you. i guess in the DAO Hack this would be the ones to contact slockit is registed in germany https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/AreasOfCrime/Cybercrime/cybercrime_node.html@bka
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I'm not selling (never sold at loss), but I'm a little bit nervous. eth also on volume #1 again on polo
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. ITS ON EVERY PAGE i guess to find out if there is an investigation about the 150 mill hack in thedao one has to call the cops in germany couse slockit is registed in germany. Slock.it is a registered company in Germany - HRB 30026 - VATID DE303959655 dao is on there biz page . so they are responsible. even if the say no. hmmm i was searching for a report intry number but cant find any. so is it true they didnt report it ? This needs to be looked in to? In case you also want to alarm the Swiss police here is their direct phone number: +41 117Tell them that Ethereum Foundation had planned a hard fork before The DAO hack. They might help you. i guess in the DAO Hack this would be the ones to contact slockit is registed in germany https://www.bka.de/EN/OurTasks/AreasOfCrime/Cybercrime/cybercrime_node.html@bka
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been watching the shit in polo trollbox. I'm pretty sick of quality of Moral from the ETH supporters and those who love FUD. They all seem to be spoiled assholes. You guys know, I'm lambo all the time, No FUD. I only like the first half of Pump and Dump. When I see lots of FUD happen, I get mad as hell. I was planning on buying more lisk but have now decided to purchased 40 BTC worth of ETC at 320k. I think ETC has too many haters for whatever damn reason so I will be helping out the ETC cause because there is nothing better than Freedom from the controlling elites. Yes I think Vitalik and his henchmen are all crooks and should be investigated. Never bought ETH because of the control they had which leads to exactly this, Hands in the cookie jar because they are greedy fucks. I like ETC, wish I could have bought earlier. Now is better than never or when it hits 0.01 I'm not giving these 12.2k ETC back any time soon. You might be seeing me here more often 1000 pages anyone? Thank you cannabanana we will work hard to make your investment work for you. You are welcome to call here anytime.
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Is there such an ETC wallet that "does not send out using a smart contract"?
P.S. For that little I cared of, to me ETH is fucked (never trusted any "foundations"), good luck to ETC supporters, but I'm not hoping too much, sorry.
MyEtherWallet.com supports etc. generate a new wallet but be sure you select etc each time you send. How long ago did you talk to shapeshift. They have a working spitter now.
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Hello people, need a little help
I have a very small amount of ETH/ETC (that I got from a faucet on february) that I wish to convert to BTC via shapeshift. Because my limited internet plan I can only use an online wallet (ethereumwallet.com, myetherwallet.com), seems there will not be problems with ETH, but what about ETC? To be safe I emailed shapeshift, and they replied: "If you send from Myetherwallet.com your exchange will not complete and we'll have to refund the ETH/ETC to you. I recommend sending the funds to another ETH wallet that does not send out using a smart contract."
So, the disclaimer in Myetherwallet.com (that using shapeshift "may lead to delays") is untrue?
Is there such an ETC wallet that "does not send out using a smart contract"?
Thanks
P.S. For that little I cared of, to me ETH is fucked (never trusted any "foundations"), good luck to ETC supporters, but I'm not hoping too much, sorry.
Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum)https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0@whatisgravity released this 5 days ago · 1 commit to master since this release This release contains a version of geth 1.4.10 specifically developed to work on the Ethereum Classic network. Without any flags, choices or additional setup you can use the Ethereum Classic network, with every feature working with ETC data. ETC Mist Wallet currently has working conversions and easy access to Shapeshift.io's Shifty API. Revenue is generated through use of the Shifty API, revenue from this feature are currently collected by @whatisgravity. Any revenue fees will be handed over to the community development initiative. This is a test pre-release, the OSX application is not signed because our organization does not yet have a key and the windows builds are not thoroughly tested. If the release is successful, signed Mist Browser builds will be released alongside a Mist Wallet release with enhanced security. Please report any issues, and provide detailed information to make it easier for us to reproduce and resolve any issues quickly. Improved build scripts and in depth Linux build instructions are in the process of being edited for release.
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ETC volume has dropped below ETH
3646 BTC on ETC buy side VS. 8160 BTC on ETH buy side on poloniex
If one guy has 10% of ETC supply, then he can dump 500k ETC each month to stop the price from going anywhere for a year
I don't think there's much hope of exchanges stopping the hackers either. They can simply distribute it OTC for -5% or -10% below market rate to avoid the exchanges
Until ethf fails which will be soon I'm not so confident that ethf failure = etc win If ethf fails, then maybe people switch away from ethereum to a completely new platform. A possibility is the eth foundation disappearing once they finish pillaging all the money. Etc is all decentralized volunteers Etc is all decentralized volunteers driven by honor
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Keep the faith people! The truth will provail. The higher it goes the faster it will crash. ETH is still low. I sold my ETH position just before the dao hack at around 24mbtc. If the fork had worked for them they should have been back to 24mbtc already
After the fork i thaught etc would find a level at 3mbtc and it peeked to almost 5mbtc. It may not happen today people but we will see a switch in circumstance once the truth gets out. I may buy a little more ETC yet.
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Coinbase needs to rebuy etc cheap. Tell them to contact Alex van de Sande
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Just get your ETC's. This will go to the sky.. =)
What's Berry Silbert saying lately? Did he increase his position? He is on Slack, I didn't see his comments about increasing his position, but he did say he wasn't selling his position in ETC until it was equal to ETH. He is also putting feelers out for those who have business ideas, projects etc that have a plan but are seeking funding. So all very positive stuff. ETC is an exciting place to be right now. As i understand, on the release of Casper, people will be able to use mixers and send/receive coins anonymously via whisper, that's when hacked funds will be on the move.
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lucy for them then. I think ETC is not for profit company so we pay no tax too! oh how we laugh ho ho ho need 2p
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if this is true, the news has not yet reached the markets. the price is steady. one thing is for sure, you never know what is coming next in this game. you could't make it up could you?
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It looks now that ETH Foundation is in panic and selling there ETC to make money and living the country
Can you say that again but in bigger font, i did not hear you.
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So you say ETH are broke and have no money to pay the tax bill, poor Ethereum, hope they can have a whip round or somthing however, not to sure what that has to do, or how it effects ETC. Alex could lend them a few bob!
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So what is the implication of this document husky1971?
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I agree POC should be considered in the mix for the long term fix. I think the first steps are to disable the diff bomb and set a timeline for where we go forward. POW by itself does not scale and is why BTC is slower than molassis in January. That is where we will need to leverage multiple methods in a hybrid if we want to scale. I think if we wait until we have a problem it may be too late to address. POC on low powered small devices is pretty cool isn't it? It looks like the dev team want to fork to fix both the bomb and the algo combo in one fell swoop. i just wish some law enforcement would have a look at it. the whole situation does not look good. the dao the hack the fork , and no report to law enforcement, gosh if you dont report you are helping the thief.
in my country they for sure would have to answer some very unpleasant questions.
i wonder how that is in swiss ? they foundation is lokated in swiss . a hack is a internet crime and i think i heard there is a inernational conected crime force for interent crime .
I did not realise that it was not reported. Although, kinda difficult to do anything unless you know their territory. GCHQBude would have had online history of everything for the last 3days. What if it were done from sat-link internet, in a cabin cruiser, in international waters? I would have reported it to the Swiss authorities though.
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@tylerderden good work @MalReynolds spend the time to get it right, don't rush it. But to change the subject for a bit: Burst are doing well. up 30% today. They use a PoC algo. Proof of Capacity! You mine with hard drives. It uses loads less power. If could integrate something like that with ethereum Classic.... Again... it would open the network to more people. You can mine Burst with a phone if you have a good size memory card. Think of Africa and all those smart phones BE MINDFUL You know sometimes you can get tied up with money and politics and not only lose sight of the tech, but the tech can pass you by while you are preoccupied. Why waste time with the things you cannot change, when there are thing you can be involved in that can bring about change. We have a world Computer. Top Dev is a Russian coder, we have devs in Japan, a large mining infrastructure in China, and nodes, miners and supporters all over the world. People are working around the clock. So..... can we put aside the money and politics for a short while now please and move forward. If Alex holds the keys, then he gets to choose what he does with the TOKENS. You only own what you can hold. If you lose the keys, you lose those TOKENS DO NOT INVEST WHAT YOU CANNOT AFORD TO LOSE... IT IS BAD FOR THE SCIENCE That said, i know what is going on is just so massive
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Actually I just talked to him on reddit, he admits he was the dude, but claims he acted alone and VB knew nothing. Par for the course, same approach I figured they would have when confronted about the 51% attack attempt. Man these kids...give them just a little rope and they're hanging themselves before I finish my second beer.
Can you link your Posts? references?
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There are only grey hats, there are no white hats or black hats Or... Are you sayng it is better to be white than black? If so... tell that to 2Pac... Malcom X... King.... Garvey...
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