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521  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:58:01 PM
"All the fees from the shifty program have gone DIRECTLY to the Foundation's Tip Address (via SS too):" alex van de sande https://twitter.com/avsa/

Yes but you did not disclose Alex....  We did...  



Ethereum Classic Mist Wallet - 0.8.1 (1.4.10 go-ethereum)


https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

@whatisgravity whatisgravity released this 4 days ago · 1 commit to master since this release

This release contains a version of geth 1.4.10 specifically developed to work on the Ethereum Classic network. Without any flags, choices or additional setup you can use the Ethereum Classic network, with every feature working with ETC data.

ETC Mist Wallet currently has working conversions and easy access to Shapeshift.io's Shifty API. Revenue is generated through use of the Shifty API, revenue from this feature are currently collected by @whatisgravity. Any revenue fees will be handed over to the community development initiative.

This is a test pre-release, the OSX application is not signed because our organization does not yet have a key and the windows builds are not thoroughly tested. If the release is successful, signed Mist Browser builds will be released alongside a Mist Wallet release with enhanced security.

Please report any issues, and provide detailed information to make it easier for us to reproduce and resolve any issues quickly. Improved build scripts and in depth Linux build instructions are in the process of being edited for release.
522  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:44:36 PM
"So the fact you assume I'd lie and steal from others says more about you than me." alex van de sande https://twitter.com/avsa/with_replies
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:02:28 PM

Also Alex(avsa) is tweeting too.  Quick, you might miss the gosip @avsa  https://twitter.com/avsa
524  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 12:54:16 PM

"Let ETH'$ argue about "morality" or "pragmatism." Ethereum Classic has one standard. Mathematics. This computer isn't gonna stop for anyone."

"We have 100's of volunteer devs on multiple projects. Around 7 core devs porting Mist, Geth, and Parity clients."

"Developers are excited! ETC is the fastest growing crypto-currency ever! Very cool projects on the horizon"

https://twitter.com/eth_classic  = allways a good read.
525  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 12:22:00 PM
Oh yeah and this whole skimming thing on the mist wallet....that is brought to you by the "white boy hacker"  so yet another thing that makes the eth devs look absolutely terrible.

Eth is simply not viable. They have no morals

Yes it is absolutely terrible.  Although it is handy to have a button in the wallet where you can "Deposit With Bitcoin", it is immoral not to tell people that shapeshift and devs get a slice.

We have a "Deposit With Bitcoin" button on the new Classic Wallet however, we do not hide the fact of where the money goes.

Quote:- "ETC Mist Wallet currently has working conversions and easy access to Shapeshift.io's Shifty API. Revenue is generated through use of the Shifty API, revenue from this feature are currently collected by @whatisgravity. Any revenue fees will be handed over to the community development initiative."  REF:- https://github.com/ethereumproject/mist/releases/tag/5cbe0c0

It's on the download page for all to see and is such a small % you do not notice.

And if you don't want the devs and community to have a commission, you can go to shapeshift yourself and buy etc with bitcoin.  At least you know.
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 08:22:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLkhx0eqK5w
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 07:54:16 AM
accidentally i found this

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Please approve my operation

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ie. send a transaction with data

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in order to split 125000 ETC, sending the ETH back to the foundation wallet and the ETC to my hot wallet at:

https://etherchain.org/account/0xf406ba0fba012777ae54630b31ff4847c00c6c10
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On april 2016 they changed the company shareholders.
The new Ethereum company is registrated on an private house. (google maps) And the new shareholder is (japan –american person) (director /manager).

The Dao Hack was an excuus for the hard fork, to drain the ETH from the hot wallet.
After Hard fork Split ETH/ETC they direct transfer 6979999 ETC, block  1920006, 20 Jul 2016, 13:34, 105855, confirmations, 0x961c4735, IN  6979999.0000 ether. Whallet 0xb794f5ea0ba39494ce839613fffba74279579268.

The 125.000 ETC was also transfer from this wallet.
https://gastracker.io/addr/0xb794f5ea0ba39494ce839613fffba74279579268 (ETC EMPTY WALLET NOW)

From the above wallet it go's to this wallet   0xc674de296cc6dec8166ca7ef7c846f1215857d63 Balance (Ether) 16054999.9657
https://gastracker.io/addr/0xc674de296cc6dec8166ca7ef7c846f1215857d63.

Only i’m not sure whow is owner of this wallet.

This way it looks that an third party is the hacker, but not insider from the group.


Why are you not using  and supporting the ETHEREUM CLASSIC EXPLORER?  

like this http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0x59bc61238a2059e33d5fc0f91b8b8ce5cb45858d  

 Roll Eyes  Some people hay! 

If you are to quote wallet address, Please use http://blocks.elaineou.com   Wink
528  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 02:36:11 AM
Why don't you post on nice hash?  Anyhow.

Coursera Course on Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Begins Soon  Smiley

Quote: "Education on the topics of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are an absolute necessity at this stage. A new Coursera class touching upon both subjects can be quite powerful to bring new people into the ecosystem. Moreover, this is another validation of how popular Bitcoin has become, as there are now official classes people can follow online."
REF: http://themerkle.com/coursera-course-on-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency-begins-soon/

How cool is that? 

School Based Education Technology is an area we should look to promote.

Moreover: I still think a dapp building Competition is a good idea.  Maybe Alex might want to put up a prize in etc? 
give em a bitcointalk link and show them the oil of the whole crypto machine....all of us lol

Here is how not to do it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O5fdMFKEC0
We have all seen it but, it still makes me laugh, even now  Grin
529  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 02:25:26 AM
Why don't you post on nice hash?  Anyhow.

Coursera Course on Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Begins Soon  Smiley

Quote: "Education on the topics of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency are an absolute necessity at this stage. A new Coursera class touching upon both subjects can be quite powerful to bring new people into the ecosystem. Moreover, this is another validation of how popular Bitcoin has become, as there are now official classes people can follow online."
REF: http://themerkle.com/coursera-course-on-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency-begins-soon/

How cool is that? 

School Based Education Technology is an area we should look to promote.

Moreover: I still think a dapp building Competition is a good idea.  Maybe Alex might want to put up a prize in etc? 
530  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:59:17 AM
What happen to the social contract Alex?
531  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:41:43 AM
He should dump the ETC and use the money for ETH foundation.

Blockchain bailouts are OK, but using free money to make whole the people who lost out because of these incompetent children..

So returning ETH = bailout, but returning ETC = making whole to the innocent people who lost out because of incompetent devs? Classic.

The hypocrisy of ETCultists is  truly something. Last time i checked, the DAO investors on ETH chain were "greedy morons who did not even research the code", the hacker was a "hero who deserves the coins". I always knew your ideology and "strong principles" circle-jerk was fake as fuck, but the fact that you are now begging for a DAO refund is freaking hillarious.

He holds the keys, it's his ETC.  He can do with it as he pleases.  He may realise he has a worthy asset and hold.  Who knows.  I beg for nothing and i kneel for no man.  Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

If i held that asset, would you wander the forums, spouting my name attempting to intimidate people for kicks?  Or do you have other reasons to worship at his altar?
532  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 01:06:03 AM
Would make a good photoshop "Wanted dead or alive - bounty" poster  Wink
533  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 12:35:46 AM
ETHEREUM CLASSIC BLOCK EXPLORER    was showing wei balance only (no decimal point).

Big thanks to dontpanicburns on dev slack channel this afternoon for the swift action.
 
Now working showing  wei and etc       http://blocks.elaineou.com/home
534  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 08, 2016, 12:03:17 AM
In my eyes, ethereum has become a toxic brand.  The only way it can survive is through ECT, who still obey the social contract.  
All eyes on Alex, if he dumps he will alienate so many people, rootstock will take the glory over ETH.
535  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 11:38:56 PM
So the question is, will Alex break the social contract? Sword of Damocles time for ETC?

I hope for his sake he has Close Protection.
536  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 07:28:04 PM
I see your point and I am just thinking out loud... Right now we have 2 Ethereum's The HF and the Classic. The one right now that is second in line to BTC is the HF Ethereum. I am thinking if I am a new investor that does not know about all this drama and wants to invest he sees HF and Classic. He would be like whats up with this?? Which one do I use?  blah blah looks unprofessional.. I don't know what the best thing to do but I don't want to see classic get slowly crushed by the HF.

We are not there yet but to get Classic up and going like HF already is will take some time to get organized. During this time everyone will just keep pounding heads saying that classic is dying and stay away from it.

I am not thinking it should be done now and hopefully never but if things get bad enough it might be best to re-brand the original but still keep all the same tools that HF uses. Let's hope it does not come to that. Time will tell.. If enough miners bail out then you can bet they will try the 51 percent attack again. The most important thing is we must keep people on board and interested. What ever it takes.
i think the name is good like it is.
it is a permanent reminder of what happend. and every seriouse investor should get a hint there is a story behind this names.

thats good i think the selling argument for etc is its immutablility beside its all the othere ether has too.


and sure there is still lots of work to do but
for me its amazing how much was done in such a short time. i am still wow
what a strong comunity
congrats........

Thank you for these toughts.  This is a strong comunity, It has Honour, as do all the people that post here.  CLASSIC!
537  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 06:23:32 PM
huffington post  Cheesy  Is it in the Daily Mail too?   Grin  talk about bias media with no empirical verifiability  Cheesy

oh how we laugh...  i think i need 2p

That's a syndicated blog. Anyone can write there. You can write a positive article about ETC. No one will stop you.

I see, its a "trolls lives matter" spread,  Cheesy
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 06:09:21 PM
huffington post  Cheesy  Is it in the Daily Mail too?   Grin  talk about bias media with no empirical verifiability  Cheesy

oh how we laugh...  i think i need 2p
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 06:00:34 PM
I take it you are not a Classic fan lestherat?

I take the Chris Ellis view that "if Ethereum Classic is a scam, then Ethereum is a scam because Classic is the real Ethereum".  
You can't have it both ways guys!  Ref https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1XiAwSpXbI

540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ETC] Ethereum Classic: Immutable Smart Contracts on: August 07, 2016, 05:45:34 PM

That petition is a Conundrum for many. IMO all DAO should be destroyed it it a failed experiment that those that invested should lose. Not to mention the fact that if that were to happen it would actually help ETH and ETC alike.

In reality there is nothing but Grey hats, all others are deluding themselves.

I agree, it has to hurt people, if it does not hurt they will try do it all again.  Just like the 2008-9 financial collapse and then the "bail out" of the banks.  The Banks are still at it.  I'm gonna do an Iceland!
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