We trusted inputs too much. Everything on the site was perfect, why did it have to fuck up...
I have quite a different story: it was an obvious scam, alarm bells were ringing everywhere, but many people didn't listen. |
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please refund it  Why on Earth you invest on Ponzi, People do random stupid things all the time. Outrageous, but hardly surprising. |
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My attitude only changed because the rules of the game that were set out from the start were changed
The rules were "it's a ponzi". Not gambling. Ponzi. You were blinded by greed and decided to believe it was a fair gamble, while it was clearly stated it was not. |
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The experiment is over.
We will pay back everyone we can. We are not making money from this.
So it was a SCAM after all?.. depressing..
No, it was a ponzi. Ponzi collapse eventually. I didn't expect it to collapse so fast, though. |
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I'm wondering what could be the best way to short mtgoxBTC.
Just borrowing them and selling them could work, since worst case scenario it couldn't go up to more than 100% in value, so at most you risk the price difference between your rate and 100.
However technically if mtgox stops processing even internal transfers, you would just not be able to return the sum, so you would have to agree in advance what happens in that case.
Am I missing anything?
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when there are people handing you 30 BTC just to register on your exchange.
Are there? I strongly doubt anyone registered there during the last one or two years. |
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I am pretty sure this is fake, but it makes me think about what the secret is.
I hope you are 11 or something. |
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Fuck is flappy bird?
how dafauq you don't know what flappy bird is? it's like the most popular android&apple game right now  still not popular enough, apparently. |
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Unclear to me when this "open ponzi" is (officially) going to collapse or end. Or the "official" goal is to never end, simply dilating more and more the payouts? Anyway I see no reason to play this instead of coinbomb... |
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I want my 2.5 ltc back, wtf man ?
You gambled, you lost. |
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i sign up !
Thank you for letting us know, and for full-quoting the original post. I'm happier now. |
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The new year holiday message they present in their site at almost mid February doesn't look like a technical problem nor even a excuse . It looks like an abandon Ship !  I really can't undersant how did a market like this could stand for so long, who the hell on earth would deposit money in their bank accounts to buy btc, 10% more expensive than the rest of exchangers. A market like this should quickly increase spread (many people selling, few buying) and blown it self, it never happened ! Other thing i can't understand is how they did to manage to be one of largest in volume transaction, even now days when you can't do there nothing more than bare your money. Because greed and sloth make people stupid. |
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Also, FC asked for PMs or emails, not questions in this thread  May be he changed of mind or someone provided already all the required money he needs. :-) Well, we might say that if someone can't even follow this simple instruction, it's not someone you want as a partner when huge sums of money are involved... |
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Ok, I've received the payment in a new transaction, and I've also received the new dividend, so I guess it's fine now.
(still, it would be much better if we could look at a share list, other than inferring it from the last dividend)
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currently Syria is a nice showing of Putin's power - there was no revolution, almost no bloodshed
wat? O_o |
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Maybe you thought about Stalin ? Putin is not a mass murderer.
Not a mass murdered, but definitely a selective murderer. Basically anyone who tries to oppose him gets killed, AFAIK. |
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All they want is freedom.
The alternative is being under a Putin-supported dictator, who kills journalist, political oppositors, protesters... They already have freedom. And they are asking the EU to take away their freedom in exchange for work visas. Sure, freedom to be killed by the government... Maybe Putin is a dictator... but Russia has prospered under him.
So killing people is ok if it makes you feel better? |
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And how exactly donating BTC is going to help Ukrainian struggle against their government..?
+1 I don't support the protesters. All they want is to attain visa-free travel to Germany and UK, so that they can settle down with their families there.
All they want is freedom.The alternative is being under a Putin-supported dictator, who kills journalist, political oppositors, protesters... |
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the way it should work for AM is,
FC picks a DEx to use as settlement,
TAT or whatever passthru continues to trade on centralize exchanges to gain the benefit of speed and more broader market,
when user withdraws from passthru, passthru can just execute the change of ownership on the DEx,
no more FC pm/email,
FC uses information on DEx to distribute dividend,
Of course, ppl can also trade directly on DEx, maybe arbitraging across DEx and centralize ones.
This ^^ is an awesome idea and what I was trying to recommend to TAT. Why not innovate and embrace the new technology. Where's the downside to TAT issuing Passthrough shares on a decentralized exchange like Counterparty? How is this different from issuing passthroughs on multiple centralized exchanges. Why not make passthroughs available on decentralized exchanges as a temporary fix until Friedcat transfers all the shares over to a decentralized solution? This way we only have to trust the issuer and the passthrough operator. Eliminates having to trust a centralized exchange like Havelock. Brilliant! I guess PT operators will try to oppose it anyway, since they'll lose some liquidity and users, but they would still be in business. |
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It's much easier to shut down an issuer than an exchange, which can stay mostly hidden.
 there are more issuers than exchanges, so shutting down a single exchange is easier than shutting down every single issuer. That should be quite... obvious? btw please stop feeding the troll, just ignore jimmothy. I don't want to read replies to his posts, nobody should. |
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