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5401  Economy / Speculation / Re: When bitcoin will drop? on: November 24, 2017, 03:03:24 PM
Sometimes bitcoin will drop at a short term (15th every months or before) then price increasing again with bump. This is the rule 6 months nearly. Actually i think btc only drop when some speculators sell a huge of BTC.

Though the price heavily depends on the news regarding bitcoin, based from my experience the price drops right after a fork which happens like 2-4 times a year. Fortunately and unfortunately, the fork that was supposed to happen on November 16, 2017 was cancelled and many investors missed the opportunity of its price decreasing. Maybe by the year 2018, forks would inevitably happen and take that as an opportunity to invest large amounts of money to fully maximize your profits. But do remember that today might be the opportunity to invest since by basing it on the price history index, bitcoin may soon skyrocket once again by 2018 and might even reach the $10,000 mark.
5402  Economy / Economics / Re: do you think bitcoin is controversial ? on: November 24, 2017, 01:29:55 PM
as we know so many reason to make controversial bit coin currency in practical or real media sanitation. if  we observe very carefully  few past few years we have seen that  criminal activities  or occurrence  are occurred by the help of hackers and trader make it famous moving thousand of dollars outside by cheating  with government law enforcement for that reason value of bitcoin increasing very high. even they make money away from center bank and government unable to hold money from general people and through this process people convert this money into different things. i think this is enough for making controversial and what do you think about my think ?

Currently, I think that bitcoin is definitely controversial, considering its significant price in the market nowadays. Big investment corporations like GME Inc. are starting to recognize its potential by allowing bitcoin to be included on its trading aspects. But I think that with the recent price hike, there are a lot of scams happening that contributes to the negative stigma of bitcoin. Just to cite you an example, 2-3 days ago confido.io founders scammed at least $375,000 worth of ICO money from investors. Due to this, investors are now more skeptical of investing their money into other cryptocurrencies which may negatively affect bitcoin in the near future.
5403  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Relationships! on: November 24, 2017, 11:35:25 AM
Anyone who has ever been or are in a committed relationship or marriage where both people gamble? Or in a relationship with a gambler with a friend, best friend, family related etc...  Knowing you are in it together is weird comforting and gives me some sort of undefined explanation.

What does that look like for you? Your experience needs to be heard.

I have a friend whose both parents gamble on a daily-basis. Fortunately for him, his aunt took care of him while growing up and by even paying for all the expenses. From what I heard, his parents are drowned in debt and about to lose their house if they do not pay the bank by next year. Luckily, my friend never bore any grudge from his parents, considering the circumstances that happened and he even offered to pay for the debt. What I learned is that, gambling can really destroy your life and affect everyone in your surroundings especially when it gets out of control.
5404  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is an asset or currency. on: November 23, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
I hear from many sources that btc is used for trading much more than it is for goods and services; doesn't that make it an asset ??
and is that necessarily a bad thing ?? and what can we do about it as a community ??

It can be treated as both since it purely depends on the user's purpose on it. Generally, bitcoin is regarded as an asset since people mainly use it as an investment for short term or long term purpose. Otherwise, mostly view it as a currency since its value can be convertible into fiat, considering its significantly high price on the market. Others view it as both since they withdraw their bitcoins for emergency purposes while retaining some for their investments. Like I said, it purely depends on your use and your perspective on how you view it.
5405  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Government put on tax on bitcoin on: November 23, 2017, 06:59:18 AM
If the goverment put tax to bitcoin transaction, what will the consequences?

The profit will decrease and attraction also decrease in my opinion. How about yours

Firstly, the government cannot impose tax on something that they cannot regulate. This would result to them, abusing their powers and discretion since bitcoin being a foreign object, is decentralized. Second, in the event that the government would impose tax, then this would result to its price decreasing dramatically relatively. Other countries prohibit the utilization of bitcoin while others support its system and opportunities provided. If they impose tax on my country, then this would likely result to some individuals, evading to pay tax which will contribute more to the stigma of bitcoin.
5406  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin private property on: November 22, 2017, 10:32:17 PM
Yes, bitcoin is private property and anyone who takes my coins is a thief. Because the probability of someone accidentally generating my private keys is zero.


yes it is a fact that bitcoin is the property of the those people who are owning it,  it is not just like the fiat currency which is the property of the state and the  private property of the people.

I agree but it also depends on your respective laws in the country you reside on. Here in the Philippines, my colleague interviewed the lawyer at our BSP (Central Bank) and discussed about bitcoin's legitimacy. The lawyer said that bitcoin being a digitalized currency, it needs to be taxed if you got it from mining since it falls under the category of "other income". Also, bitcoin is being regarded here as 'property' and not as currency, thus it is not subjected to legal tender or for payment of debt. Though even if it was categorized by  the BSP, in practice we still treat it as an alternative currency for the payment of our obligations or for investment.
5407  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The gambler destroyed on: November 22, 2017, 06:08:49 AM
You really think your strategy will last forever? You are just lucky now , wait for it . When the chance is more , the number of hands you win continuously before bust increases and vice versa . Without sharing the strategy if you say its not gonna bust forever then nobody will believe you because at the end of the day its casino who wins .

You are definitely right. Being able to win does not change the fact that you are still playing with risk and odds. Even if you have the capital or even if you prayed to your God, the chances of winning and losing are still the same. Consider that as your lucky day and if you think that your method works superstitiously, then who am I to stop you? Just remember that you should know WHEN to STOP gambling and only bet the money that you are willing to lose in order to at least lessen your regret. I have a lot of friends who have experienced your situation and almost all of them ended being bankrupt. Best of luck!
5408  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin and global warming on: November 22, 2017, 03:00:12 AM
The idea of switching into a cryptocurrency payment may sound good, but the drawbacks are highly toxic especially when it comes to hacking and scamming due to its nature. You may be right that the process of making fiat and gold mining harm the environment but if we adapt the system of payment into digitalized forms, this would create chaos into the economies of countries around the world. We may lessen the the impact of pollution around the world slowly, but in an economic perspective this would destroy markets and may cause hyperinflation in some countries.
5409  Economy / Economics / Re: Easiest way to make BTC? on: November 21, 2017, 11:49:51 PM
Yeah, what's the easiest way to make the most BTC? I remember a pal how he made some currency to 1 BTC in an evening, something with Amazon. But I guess such things are gone.

Daytrading right now but I am not that good at it. Bots? Do I have to make my own?

Personally, I find trading or doing services in exchange for bitcoin to be the fastest way of earning. Through that method, you can earn a significant amount of bitcoin in a short amount of time depending on the skills and abilities you possess. From what I observed, making signatures or being a campaign manager seems to be one of the most profitable way of earning bitcoin. But I find participating in campaign signatures to be the most reliable way of earning bitcoin. The beauty of these campaign signatures is that, its convenience in time is relatively fast and you do not need to have any capital to start on.
5410  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can I protect my self from being hack of bitcoin on: November 21, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
Just yesterday I come across one youtuber where he says
he just wake up and saw his 50 btc was vanish from his exodus wallet  and also before that another 20 btc was vanish
he says he dont even know how this happen.

pls how can I escape this.

This problem is common among people who have their bitcoin being advertised across the internet. The tendency is that, hackers would know which people to target since they advertise it on youtube or any social media. Personally, I would suggest that you keep your coins diversified into different wallets and even providing a hard-copy for it. In this way, you may be able to reduce the risk of losing all of your bitcoins. This is primarily the reason on why we cannot adapt bitcoin as the main medium of exchange due to its nature, being hackable on the internet.
5411  Economy / Economics / Re: why bitcoin is so much special than others currency ? on: November 20, 2017, 07:48:53 AM
This is so really hard to say special cause its difficult to explain specialty in short word
Some of them  are given below:

It’s a type of currency which know as peer to peer currency and this permit to send and receive money without help of broker or third party involvement 
Every bitcoin holder can review their account information after sending money or receiving money from their account.
After all kind of transection bitcoin recorded sufficient proof of every client and account holder through different facilities.
Buying and selling process is so much easier than other currency
I think above mention quotation is sufficient for proving that how much special the bitcoin is.
Bitcoin is special because it has the assurance that a person will profit in the near future..aside from it is the first crytocurrency the price really increase as time goes by..and as of this moment bitcoin become more famous that everyone wanted to invest with.Its surviving through its different trials and hindrances,which proves that bitcoin is the strongest of all cryptos and without bitcoin altcoins also will not born.

You may be right that bitcoin is the strongest cryptocurrency currently, but there are also others who are catching up with the price (ethereum, e-toro, etc.). Bitcoin itself as a cryptocurrency is special compared to other types of currencies because it makes both the user and the receiver convenient in receiving payment. By using the block-chain technology, sending money is faster and easier. The only hindrance that stop this from further developing into different countries is its nature being digitalized. This makes developing countries hard to adapt with the system due to economic discrepancies.

Comparing it to fiat, fiat still remains as the world-wide currency since all countries accept it as a mode of payment. In bitcoin's case, its decentralized nature makes it impossible for government agencies to regulate it, thus making it unrecognizable as a payment. If the government does not see it as money, then internationally it would not be accepted as the main medium of exchange. Hopefully in the future, more countries will be lenient on their rules and regulations so bitcoin can be categorized as an alternative payment for MOST services and products.
5412  Economy / Speculation / Re: Do you think bitcoin be bullish in 2018? on: November 20, 2017, 03:59:19 AM
This topic may seem easy to address but then ,I think we should think over this and possibly talk about fundamentals that can make it bullish if you think it will,because technically, there should be some correction with respect to the yearly chart analysis.
Over to you

Basically, bitcoin has now reached the $8,000 earlier and is expected to rise until the end of the year. If we are going to compare the prices back on January 2017 and today, you will observe that the price definitely skyrocketed by at least 400-500% from its price. By 2018, I expect bitcoin to continuously rise, especially that CME Group Inc., the biggest exchange, is beginning to accept bitcoin for trading. Though it may be difficult to predict what may happen next year like forks, segwits, etc., it is safe to assume that its price will increase.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-19/bitcoin-soars-past-8-000-as-technology-shift-concern-vanishes
5413  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will increase to $100,000 says expert on: November 19, 2017, 02:17:26 AM
As per the report written by max keiser of RT.com. He says, the bitcoin will increase to $100,000 and only top 20 coins will remain stable.

Keiser also blames bitcoin cash for misusing bitcoin name and it is just alt coin and doesn't hold for long time.

see report here https://www.rt.com/business/410252-bitcoin-god-gift-keiser/
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Well, I can also say that the price of other cryptocurrencies may rise up to $1,000,000 if this goes on! Joking aside, it may be easy to predict the price of bitcoins in the following years but it is very difficult to accurately predict what will it become. Experts said that bitcoin is a bubble that may inevitably pop in the future but others said that bitcoin will continue to reign on the market. The prediction and opinions are relative, meaning each have their own agendas towards bitcoin's future. If I were you, just save your bitcoins for now and check the price history of bitcoins for reference.
5414  Economy / Economics / Re: What percentage of people on Earth will own Bitcoin by 2020 on: November 18, 2017, 04:18:57 PM
I've been running a poll for some time now about the value of 1 bitcoin by 2020 and it's safe to say a lot of different opinions and guesses are made.
This poll completes the other one and i'm really looking forward to everyone's input in this.

Tnx for your input  Cool


Bitcoin being used by everyone is the ideal situation but you need to consider that most of the population around the world are in the below-average spot. Also, you need to know that most countries are still on the 'developing' stage, which result to a discrepancy regarding their respective economic situation. Those who are poor and are in poverty have no means of acquiring stable internet connection, which is a mandatory requirement for virtual payment using bitcoin. This is the only hindrance that I see that must be addressed if you really want to push for world-wide scale payment of bitcoin.
5415  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you still buy Bitcoin? on: November 18, 2017, 12:28:34 PM
Yes off course because the price of bitcoin is still low for me and the reason is that their is still very low number of follower of bitcoin so in future when bitcoin will get maximum number of people then the price will be increase more and more and i will expect the price of bitcoin at least 20k $ in future.
I don't think it is smart to buy the bitcoin right now because it is slowly going up so you won't make a lot of money with it but i think that in the future the value will go down very fast and if you have buy the bitcoin at a high value the you will will lose a lot of money.

You can always buy bitcoin at any time given but it is preferred to wait till its price decreases, which will happen eventually. If you really want to make the most out of your investments or profit, then you may want to wait for forks but also do note that the price of bitcoin tomorrow might be higher compared today. It is really hard to predict when its price is going to fall but I would suggest that you should buy bitcoins now, considering that there has been a steady increase consistently.
5416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin so expensive? on: November 17, 2017, 01:51:57 AM
Bitcoin is so expensive if it will be converted to my country's currency it will cost hundred of thousands.
Why bitcoin worth that much even its only a cryptocurrency can someone give me an idea.

Bitcoin is expensive due to a number of factors, namely:

1. Its decentralized nature makes it the perfect payment for anonymity purposes;
2. The high volatility due to a number of investors increasing and individuals cashing-out their bitcoins;
3. No government agency can ever regulate it, thus tax imposition is impossible; and
4. The demand and supply dictates its price in the market.

Bitcoin's reputation has been steadily increasing throughout the years. Way back, if you invested 100$ before and you kept it till now, then you have around $70 million right now if you did not spend it. Lastly, since bitcoin has been popular nowadays, many investors are risking, resulting to a pump in the price.
5417  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Need some gambling strategies on: November 16, 2017, 11:39:59 PM
My prefered gambling sites are dice and video poker (for Texas Hold'em, I have own strategies  Grin )
Maybe you have some nice strategies against boring with little maths.

The question is, do you have enough capital to gamble? If yes, the method that I am going to teach you is the amount you should bet on. For example, you betted $2 and you lost. In the next round, you should bet $4 and if you lost again bet $8 and so on. In this way, you can regain your losses faster and easier but the only hindrance to this is you need a large capital for it.

Personally, even if people share their tips and methods for gambling, if the odds are really against you then you have no escape in the gambling industry. Instead of learning tips on how to win, you should invest your money or use it on a different purpose instead of risking it. Even if you are the "Master Gambler" in the gambling world, you are still playing with risks and there is no guarantee that you will win. Only bet the money that you are wiling to lose and you should know when to stop.
5418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you USE your BTC? on: November 16, 2017, 04:14:27 PM
As everyone knows one of the major problems with Bitcoin economy is hoarding. The idea of this poll is to find out whether the lack of spending in the BTC economy is mainly due to the lack of acceptance of Bitcoin payments, or is it that people can actually buy a good deal of stuff that they need with BTC but choose not to.

No, but still I will buy the things that are important to me. After that, I'll try to focus more on accumulating Bitcoin.
That is right, only use your bitcoin to buy things that you really need and important for you so you will not regret for selling bitcoin and you can have a great future with bitcoin. Accumulate and collect more bitcoin because after a few years, i believed that the price of bitcoin maybe stabilizing at the 5 digit price.

I try to do so. As long as I do not need cash so urgently, I am trying not to sell any bitcoin not to regret later.

Every decision that we make make has a consequence attach to it. Whether or not we convert our bitcoins to fiat for emergency purposes, in the end we tend to regret it since we waste its potential value from further increasing. But that decision was essential for the satisfaction of your emergency situation or monthly obligations. It really depends on the individual on how they utilize their bitcoin, especially when they tend to be in a tight financial situation. The obvious choice is simply to convert your btcs to fiat. But if you have no reason to convert it, then I suggest not to since you are wasting a lot of value in the future.
5419  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Too late to invest in cryptos if you're old? on: November 16, 2017, 02:03:42 PM
What would you guys advise someone who is retired, living off pension and savings? Is it too late/risky to invest at that kind of age?
Do you guys think the elderly have a chance of jumping on the crypto train, or do you guys think it's too late for them to invest?


No. Compared to any other investments, cryptocurrencies in general has the most potential of yielding income in the shortest time possible due to its high volatility and decentralized nature. The price is heavily determined on the law of demand and supply, which can change its price anytime. If you are going to look at the price history, you can observe that throughout the months/years, the price increase of bitcoin has been steadily increasing. Regardless of your age, if you have enough capital to invest then you have more chances of realizing profit in a short time.
5420  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are we already rich, gentleman? on: November 15, 2017, 02:48:02 PM
I am far from entering the category of "rich", but given the ability I have to perform properly in trading, and the growth potential of the crypto economy, I am convinced that I am on the right track and in a few years, maybe three, I will already be living an economically comfortable life.
Many persons look at the current net worth of a person to know if that person is rich but a more accurate way of knowing if a person is rich or if he will be rich is to look at his cash flow, while I‘m not rich by any means when I see my cash flow I cannot stop to think that my positive cash flow will allow me to be rich in the future.

For as long as you have the necessary means of earning bitcoins on a stable basis, then becoming rich would be your path in the future. Regardless of the time when you invested your bitcoins, it still is an investment meant for the realization of profits in the future. Not to mention, if you have a decent job with decent income per month, then you are inevitably going to be rich once bitcoin skyrockets its price.

We are in the same situation. I may not be rich right now but the signature campaigns that I am participating significantly support my expenses as a college student. Not only does this provide me an alternative income, this does not also compromise the time I needed for my studies when compared to a part-time job. Lastly, if bitcoin were to be successful and still in existence in the future, then I can confidently say that I may be walking on the same path as the rich people.
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