See how little things make him so proud, these poor cretins just need a small piece of kindness from what they believe is a true legend and they practically shine. He made US change 1 letter he has a fucking orgasm. Look at that big smiley face after taking the time and effort to produce both quote with different time stamps. This guy is dynamite with a bit of consideration and recognition from his IDOLS.

We wouldn't want to be his GF (well who would) when he also spots we added MOSTLY because of course there are the odd exceptions to those broadly correct statements in the initial post. He will go off like a fountain, get LFC (his current GF substitute) there ready to mop up and guzzle that down.

Like if you  were to say ....ALL people on meta were subhuman untrustworthy self serving greedy scum. Then of course someone annoying would have to pipe up with well now now that is not entirely true...what about cryptohunter the true legend? and mention all of his selfless great deeds that are all fully verifiable and observable, or his friend the one above all  ? he is also fighting for a fair and transparent system that ensures all members are treated equally. Then once again we would have to say: yeah yeah okay look that is obvious there will be a small exception now and then but not worthy of worrying about since most people are smart enough to derive the MAIN point we are  trying to convey anyway. We are not building a swiss watch here are we?? MOSTLY ALL THEN but we expect people to realize this is a statement that is broadly true. Then again that is a terrible analogy because each person in the initial post is guilty of some seriously net negative and untrustworthy behaviors and there is nothing observably untrustworthy or net negative about CH or ourselves.

If people are so retarded they can not see the clear point we are making and expect to see a PERFECT correlation with the most PERFECT example of total and utter collusion possible then that is their loss. Let's wait for the top 20 fans and recipients of the dirty turds. Then look at the inclusions. Then we will look at those central core that exclude CERTAIN members in the pool. Then we can examine the sig spammers of the top paying (in btc) campaigns that are dts.

The hilarity of moronbozo saying

vod does not have a sig, but does not say well vod did not abuse trust, did not dox a forum treasurer, did not support known scammers and liars on to DT, did not admit he is scared of the central gang so just become their bitch, does not cycle merit to quite a few of them on that list, does not exclude some key members that many dirty turds exclude. He then says, look nothing to vote on, not dirty at all. haha... that is brilliant moronbozo, you pointed out that YES they are NOT ALL guilty OF ALL things.

 Anyway we said we would adjust if people said it was required, as honest and trustworthy members we went ahead and did so.

Cryptohunter is as far as we know still on his very long and expensive vacation so we hope that your joy, excitement and sense of achievement is not marred by this revelation but we alone changed that single letter you moronbozo had without doubt influenced us to alter for the sake of the entire board. We decided that other members deserved to be made aware of your real member name so that they may exercise extreme caution. Sorry we got it wrong previously, but really it is such a crap name who cares and most would know exactly to WHOM we were referring by the dirty description and company you keep, even if you only just worked it out your good self. This makes it no less of an achievement and you should still be very proud of your greatest achievement yet on this board. We will not longer tolerate anyone saying you have achieved nothing at all since being a member here. Please also archive those alterations and this post for your future authenticity.

By the way where  are the top 20 fans and recipients merit lists for those in the initial post ?? there is no cycling or collusion we will not see all of these names all over each others lists will we. Bpip only shows top 10 fans/recipients let's see the top 20 ffs. Where is the nice little pictures that we use to show merit farms/abuse/collusion with all those connecting lines. Let's do it for Dirty turds I bet that would make a pretty little picture too.. LOL why is nobody eager to make these pics or bring a nice bunch of comparison tables we wonder??

Let's have a look through them and see what it looks like. I mean if there is no cycling/collluding I very much doubt we will see the same names all over each others trust lists. There are 100's of 1000's of members are there not if not millions.

Come on moronbozo please be more helpful ... what if we put you with your pal lauda on the list?  we may push nutildah down a few spots so you can be spit roasted by Tman and Lauda. We know that is something you regularly fantasize about getting right between those 2 after a few of laudas vitamin pills? let's make it real. We together can make it happen. We may even change another single letter or something like that.

Come on ROBOVAC if you beat out moronbozo by bringing the top 20 fans and recipients of those in the initial post including minor dregs there.... YOU ROBOVAC will go on the initial post with a picture of any robovac (has to be a real one that average people use to suck dirt from their floors) of your finding so long as you supply the link to the image and promise never to change that image after we post it up. Must be small too and meet our approval.

They the top 20 lists  must be laid out nicely for a good comparison. Even better if they show % of total merit received on there.

As we expected on meta: Hhampuz's back room sig deals offers are beating out suchmoons BBW experience weekend offers. This is a sick world we live in do we have no red blooded beast wrestlers here ffs. Both look vulnerable though at this point to a big upswing on moronbozo's vote.

We heard but not yet confirmed LFC (some just calling him/her THE GUZZLER now ) is thinking of doing another Bukkake event with free entry and fluffers to all those that swing a vote his way. Vod is down for some fluffing if you're not too over-the-hill (have pubes). This is not confirmed so hold those votes until we update.

Remember please NO DISCUSSION of those that are not on DT1 DT2 or DT3 you can't just start throwing votes and btc dust around and expect normal members to do things like that.

WOW moronbozo really came to life since we added him to the poll. This poor little miscreant can't contribute enough to bumping our valuable thread since we made him famous.

Oh yeah he was not grumpy because he was not added to the poll before and only putting minimal effort into this thread. Sorry that was just an assumption we made based on the general prior behaviors of this pathetic low functioning turd world dreg. Like when he cries and throws tantrums when things don't go his way demanding to be taken off DT etc.

He is also a lot of fun though so we try to be nice.

He is very helpful too. He's now going to pull up the top 20 fans and recipients merit for all people mentioned in the initial post and show you how they do not cycle merit around to each other . He is now going to pull up all the includes of all of those in the initial post and show how do not include one another, he's going to pull up all those that exclude OG, TS, QS that are in the initial post. He is going to list all those in the initial post that are NOT spamming highly paid in BTC sigs. The vast majority are.

LOL like you and lauda had a blank trust list for months on end until you left DT.

Get on with it monkey. You want to clearly demonstrate that there is no collusion manipulation and back slapping don't you?

EVEN BETTER  - present the LIES that we or CH have told about TP. This will be our favorite one.

Come on moronbozo do that one first since you will take less time to demonstrate you are full of shit as always you poor demented turd world monkey.

Got to still laugh here that NO ONE HAS DEBUNKED or even TRIED TO REFUTE the observable instances of wrong doing.

Moronbozo are you related to Moronpigsnoz? is this your twin demented brother or the other head attached to your dweeb body?  He is unable to see that he can NOT just claim that independently verifiable observable instances are figments of our imagination.  

We appreciate the activity on this thread but really can you add some substance to your posts. I know you enjoy spouting shit everywhere and meriting each other for that garbage but try to present something with some real value. Something that really turns this around and converts DIRTY TURDS into members that should be on DEFAULT TRUST. You need to debunk or disprove those observable instances.

Since moronbozo is on hyper helpful mode since we allowed his dumb ass onto the poll. If you you moronbozo can present the LIES either we or the true legend that was/is and will always forever be CRYPTOHUNTER has told about HugeBlackWoman/The Smarmacist/The pharmacist then we will move your own description to the major DIRTY TURDS list near the top of the initial post and you will not be left languishing near the bottom. We will even put you above The smarmacist his sneaky self serving sig spamming slimy slippery,  self.

We are shocked how DIRTY and untrustworthy people consider moronbozo to be. He has more votes than quite a few others that have been on the poll way longer than him.  I wonder why people consider you so DIRTY and untrustworthy marlborozo ? you little turd.

Did some other fortunejack spammer turn up to help ? thenewnobody12344532 or something like that?  sorry mr fortunejack spammer who joined around the same time as lauda and tman your other fortunejack spamming pals , We simply don't have the time to respond to all the nobodies that have been here years and achieved a big fat ZERO.
Also have no time for gambling sig spammers who support scammers and liars.

@moronbozo

Your post as usual is rather confusing.  Please post it again more clearly. Keep in mind whilst you do so that your wants, hopes, dreams and demands mean absolutely nothing to us.  This is not a poll where observable dirty turds get to make groundless accusations against other members that are not on DT1 -DT3 and request the ridiculous notion of adding them to that festering heap.

We are unable to engage in discussion regarding any member outside of the  DT1 -DT3 (pool)

The only thing we concluded that you may be trying to convey is that you are not DT1 DT2 or DT3 

Is that what you are trying to say?

Would it be possible that you could get someone more capable to assist you with your posts in future?`

Is this all because you are upset not to be part of the POLL? you feel left out and dejected since your pals lauda, tman and owlcatz are there? Okay Okay have it your way. We considered your Borderline but perhaps you are right.
 

Let's recap so far.

Yogg claimed the observable instances in the initial post were garbage .......then RUNS AWAY when challenged to present which of the observable instances is garbage and why.
Sounds like what happens whenever these DT mongrels are challenged on their disgusting trust abuse and supporting scammers and liars into other DT positions.

Foxpoop MORE patience. Besides surely you can see we add you in the future right? the flux capacitor is broken again?

Moronbozo - more lies and retarded blathering. We see NO instances of cryptohunter supporting any scams from any person here. We see only one interaction concerning rambotnic which was the true legends correct and fair assessment of rambotnic's guides he had copied from the net.  Another miner issue where someone trying to help others was treated very badly and bullied by DT members who made FALSE claims about him.

We have also seen NO PROOF that rambotnic scammed any person before that instance or even after that. If you have evidence that rambotnic scammed after that then that is fine make a different thread this is about DT1 DT2 DT3 members.

Also we know you have a serious English  comprehension deficiency but the local rules CLEARLY state this is a thread discussing DT members ONLY. Is cryptohunter on default trust 1 or 2 or 3 ?  No more off topic or will be reported.

Spamming words LOL ... sorry that is too funny.

LoyceV aka robovac - We have not thought to add you to a list of DIRTY TURDS as in being clearly untrustworthy. Our notes say more of a fool that is taken in by scammers rather than an outright supporter of scammers. Perhaps you excluded CH and he simply retaliated. Who can say. We see no attempts to scam or of any financially motivated wrong doing. It seems rather that you feel important due to your inflated bag of merits and didn't like the FACT that he demonstrated clearly the merit system is subjective gamed garbage and is not a reliable metric at all. You have made plenty of false claims regarding trolling and failed to substantiate them. So that is something to watch.

If it will make you happier to be mentioned in the initial post you may be added under the minor annoyances at the bottom like moronbozo although in our personal opinion moronbozo if far worse since he included real scammers and liars on to the DT and also tried to abuse the trust system himself.  So likely you will need to go at the very bottom. However we could put a little top of the range robovac picture next to you so you stand out if you really want. No promises though since we are busy lately.

@saraschoudhary - yes that is just the tip of the iceberg. Read though those threads there is much more to be disgusted by. They are falling from grace rapidly so some are starting to distance themselves from the core group of scum. There is still many gaming this place to their own ends.

@xolxol - I agree both are unsavory scammer supporting idiots although as far as we can tell they are not openly guilty of financially motivated wrong doing personally. We will list them but I don't expect them to win. FOX POOP SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM MERIT SOURCE IMMEDIATELY.  Even pharmacist was embarrassed at the merit shower fox poop rained down on him each second at one point. He gives merit on political grounds most of the time. I mean look at this thread you get merits for post that should be deleted for low quality zero value garbage and posts that are observable correct and undeniable get ZERO merit. The entire merit system is misleading and bogus and the creates echo chambers and group think. It was the worst thing implemented on this forum ever.

Welcome yogg of bitcointalk untrustworthy supporter of scammers and liars.

Thanks for putting in a celebrity appearance on the dirty turds thread where you are in familiar company.

Now you come to prove a point I have been making since the start.

You pick out a statement that we have made "that nobody is refuting the observable instances in the initial post because they can not".

Then you try to cast doubt upon that statement.

Rather than demonstrating that you can successfully refute the observable instances here and now ( YOU CAN NOT)  you just blather some unsubstantiated low functioning spew about it all being garbage (the most you are capable of) and hope that will discredit our statement. Just call it trolling like the other low functioning DT's do.

Look here you have an opportunity to demonstrate clearly that the observable instances we have presented are incorrect or garbage as you claim.

Now member yogg of bitcointalk you untrustworthy trust abusing supporter of scammers and liars  .... why don't you NOW rise to the challenge and demonstrate the observable instances of wrong doing that you and other Dirty Turds have committed are not true.

Go - here is your opportunity.  We can't wait to drag up the lauda blatant lying, scamming, trust abusing and tmans confession that he gave red trust for a facts based post that revealed clearly his pal is a scammer and liar to try to cover up their past histories. Let's get started when you are ready. We loved the alice and bob phone stealing thread. Bring agent fox poop again so we can hear how when someone steals your phone and you say give it back or I will report you to the police that ...........well let's not spoil the surprise for those that don't know what a criminal and scammer alice is for having her phone stolen from her. LOL

Come yogg the untrustworthy supporter of liars and scammers, trust abuser and imbecile. Let's examine your refutation of the observable instances presented in the initial post.

Bring all the corrupt and moronic dregs from DT we will dispense with you all as a group. Let's flush one huge turd stream.  We're feeling rested and ready for some entertainment.

It's always fun to watch you scum bags squirm and twist when trying to undo what is independently verifiable and undeniable. haha

Be quicker just to hack the forum and rewrite history... actually that would be the only way. Except it could all be backed up externally on other archives...  hmmmm

@nutildah  YOU STILL SEEM TO BE SPAMMING YOUR SIG.  I thought you agreed with removing all sigs?  Please hurry up and set a good example.

We do not wish to win your stupid fake troll poll. We openly challenge all those daring to cast our valuable contributions as trolling to come to a new thread and present themselves. They will not. Further more none of those low functioning dregs would be able to refute ANY Of our central points that we have ever made.

Actually many of those you are trying to present as trolls are excellent posters and far smarter than the vast majority of DT members. What is more you will not find the financially motivated wrong doing or EVIL willful scam facilitating you will find on your own account nutildah or that of many other DT members.

I imagine many of these other "trolls" could issue you the same challenge and you would all fail to demonstrate that they have presented central points that you have successfully debunked.

Trolling = inconvenient truths on meta board.

Nutildah does not EVEN TRY TO REFUTE the information in the initial post regarding his willful EVIL scam facilitating for small amounts of BTC ? would that not be his primary objective here??? NO NO NO he knows that he can NOT refute what he has done so he just tries to scream trolling as if that makes it all go away or makes it untrue.

What ? not even tips how to reduce a fortune to dust, oh investing legend nutildah LOL . Mind you we didn't exactly have queues of investors lining up to buy you tip sheets

The ANTI-MIDAS tip sheet for wanna be bums  - ask theymos if you donate say 0.0000000001 btc  (your net worth) if you can change your username to Anti-midas or notildah.

@agent fox poop - sorry we forgot all about you. Don't worry you will be added on the next update. I can't wait to demonstrate your clear and unfettered highly logical conclusions and statements. No wonder you have limitless merits to chuck around. Who could be better suited to judge the value of posts on this board than you? haha

@suchmoron this is kind of true. We will make your name stand out as it deserves in this context. We will appeal to those that are into this body type, that should get them voting your way.

I agree. There are certainly instances where ALL all topic relevant information should be available to the reader but only if there are observable instances to substantiate their opinions or statements. If not you just get a weight of number situation where the real valuable and most important information is crushed under a ton of garbage that is the incorrect but popular view of those benefiting from pushing that view on others.

A button where the reader can opt to view the unmoderated original thread should be available.

There are certainly situations where SM threads are very useful but it is simply abused by those that want to hide the truth in many instances.

This is true currently but..

The OP  does NOT get to decide on the criteria for deletion if my principles are followed. Yes currently people are censoring on topic relevant information that is substantiated by observable instances and that are independently verifiable. So that should NOT be allowed. That is simply creating an echo chamber and a one sided argument.

All relevant and on topic posts should be left in place if they are substantiated with observable instances.

However, on this board people confronted with inconvenient and undeniable observable instances just tend to scream TROLLING or TROUBLE MAKER or LIAR or DEFAMER in the face of these observable instances that don't fit with their agendas. Those aligned and benefiting from those same political views will pile in and make the same false accusations and then if that does not work they will slap red trust on your account and try to discredit you.

Other ass lickers and merit hunters (so they can power up their accounts to spam sigs at a higher rate) will also repeat this garbage and get merits for it. The reader is then confronted with a mass of highly merited posts and hoards of garbage accusations that drown you out and seek to crush your valid and irrefutable central points under mass of numbers.

The merit system and the financial rewards for falling inline with the merit sources/DT's  here are far more damaging to free speech and fair debate than self moderated threads. That is for sure.

I don't think it would be difficult for the board to implement a button on the page where people can opt to view the unedited thread. So that people can choose to view the thread as it would be if the Initial poster had NOT deleted any posts. The edited version would be the default and raw unedited would be an option you can view by clicking the button.

Yes it can be censorship. If you post is ontopic , relevant and has observable and undeniable instances that corroborate and support your argument or opinion then the post should NOT be deleted.

Of course groundless opinions or statements that are NOT corroborated or substantiated with observable instances that are independently verifiable should be deleted as you wish on your self moderated thread.

These types of groundless opinions with no supporting independently verifiable instances or SOLID argument that follows a logical path should be deleted from ANY post and the poster should have 3 strikes then get a warning.

The entire board is crushed to a super sub optimal levels by this bogus posting of ill thought out self serving politically motivated garbage.

excellent suggestion

The gaming, manipulation and abuse of the systems of control are CLEARLY motivated by financial reward (via sig campaigns). These gamed metrics are used to ensure the system controllers (controlling merit, and trust) are always PRIME candidates for the highest paying sigs and other revenue streams.

What you think it is 100% coincidence that all the system controllers that hang in meta are the SAME people all wearing the highest paying sigs LOL

Not enough earned merit this month = ok not able to join this high paying sig campaign
Not enough merits total = LOW rank you may earn perhaps but only at a low level
What some FAKE red trust = sorry not able to join this high paying sig campaign

Crushes free speech, eliminates the competition, ensures they are the ones that take the highest paying sig spots.


Do you REALLY believe a broke down bum like Nutildah (the evil scam facilitator) begging for 0.02BTC loans REALLY wants to give up his sig spot where he is now earning that per week  LOLOLOLOLOL

Oh really nutildah well why don't you remove your sig now and set a good example? Are you here as a real enthusiast of the decentralized trustless movement or just to milk as much money out of this board as possible??

What about the pharmacist who states when asked what his best achievement is since joining this board " getting on to a high paying sig campaingn" !!   when asked would you consider removing it he replied " HELL NO".

Lol at these scum bags.

They all club together backing each other and ensuring their abuse and manipulation of the systems of control last as long as possible to guarantee they can milk this board for as much as they can get.

It is all there in black and white.  These scum bags can not even produce 10 good examples of their best original thought inspiring posts for analysis. They all know that some of those they are including on DT (to ensure the gang sticks together) are untrustworthy pieces of dirt who abuse merit, and the trust system, lie , scam etc. They don't give one shit so long as they get to be part of this gang.

Look at LFC_ bitcoins admission of this. He is scared of THEM. He sold bill gator out who spoke up against vod's doxxing of a forum treasurer because he wants to keep in with THEM.  Vod admitted the same previously. He dared not act against lauda or his pals else they would ruin his account. This is just admission the systems of control DO NOT WORK.  If the corruption is only allowed at the top then this is EXACTLY the types of control systems we DO NOT WANT. This is like ANTI SATOSHI like control systems. Merit is the REAL CANCER here. Poorly conceived, poorly implemented garbage that we have sought to build upon as if it were some kind of objective and reliable metric. Pure folly.

They don't even TRY to refute any of the observable instances in the initial post. WHY??? because they can not. Those are independently verifiable events.  They try to call it trolling or cast doubt upon the person presenting the observable instances. This CAN NOT WORK because it does not matter who presents them they are there for ANYONE to verify for themselves.

We are being voted the biggest troll on this board. HOWEVER they can not demonstrate that ANY of the observable instances we have presented are FALSE.

TROLLING = inconvenient TRUTHS regarding their prior wrong doing.

REMOVE SIGS or put pressure on campaign mangers to be FULLY transparent with their selection process not just using their/pals own gamed metrics they control. They must be able to demonstrate that ANY person refused entry has a lower post quality or is a scammer. If not it is simply a corrupt dirty scheme to siphon off the largest revenue streams for themselves whilst preventing fair competition from far superior posters that are not scammers and are FAR MORE trustworthy than themselves once you start looking through their post histories here.  SCAM.

Sigs MUST be removed from META board at a minimum. Sigs should be confined to their appropriate boards. Meta should be sig free.

ANY abusers of the systems of control should face a perm ban on their sigs.

EDIT - LATER ON.  Nutildah....? where are you nutildah??? are you going to remove your signature as a good example or not?  Perhaps busy somewhere doing evil things or facilitating scams for pay. Perhaps he will return later on.

LTU_btc  seems a little bit confused.


Observable instances of truth = BULLSHIT  LOL

Observable instances of truth = TROLLING hahah

Try again please. Present your refutation of the observable instances not just scream trolling or bullshit.

Makes you look like a troll.

Which observable instance are the ones you are calling bullshit on exactly. Don't be shy. Bring them here. This is just the RIGHT PLACE to debate them.

People on meta are confusing trolling with the truth. Although starting with the same 2 letters, these mean very different things.

Lots of predictable replies from the observable dirt bags here.

Look you sniveling wretches and bottom feeding ass feltchers like moronpigsnoz ( or whatever your shitty turd world name is that we can't be bothered to waste time on) IT IS VERY SIMPLE... all you have to do is make a successful refutation of the Observable wrong doing and double standards we have presented and we will remove or update them. Take your time, there is no hurry.

There is no point screaming TROLLING.. when people can verify these observable instances for themselves.

This is the issue idiots like nutildah face. They scream trolling but then can not demonstrate that these "trolls" have presented any incorrect information.


So in their minds


Inconvenient Truths regarding their prior wrong doing = TROLLING  lol

Sorry dip shits that is not Trolling, that is simply the presentation of observable instances that you WISH to deny but can not.

People voting on that stupid troll poll can not demonstrate that our posts contain incorrect information.  Since most of them refer to observable instances on this board then they should have no trouble doing so. THEY CAN NOT.

To all those other concerned dirt bags that are worried they will not get a mention like: Agent foxpoop, suchmoron, et al. Do not worry, this poll should allow persons to change their votes so it will be running for quite some time whilst we get the odd moments to compile your observable dirty deeds and double standards.


Mean time just support your scamming lying dirt bag pals that are basking in their rightful glory here in their DIRTY TURDS poll. Your time will come scumbags.  We will ensure you get all the attention you deserve.

Nutildah is one of our new fav bitches to slap around with their prior observable behaviors. How dare that EVIL SCAM FACILITATING, Micro btc loan begging dreg start a trolling poll on meta.

Nutildah hahaha .. just a few extra tit bits regarding that div. Apparently Nutildah was a NEM stakeholder (worth 300BTC ALONE) and early dash investor. Been here since 2014 (apparently) recently begging for 0.02btc loans. Haha imagine that kind of skill. To end up a broke down bum after all of that opportunity just slipped through its dirty little turd world paws. Now left sig spamming ANY PIECE OF SHIT dangerous scheme for micro dust. Nutildah will even dispute flags (if he is being paid) that other DT's (and they are corrupt scum don't forget) are forced to recognize are dangerous to other members for some micro btc scraps. Imagine what he will do for 0.3BTC - well, actually you do NOT need to imagine because  he already told you all he will turn EVIL and knowingly facilitate scams for 0.3BTC right?

DT and merit source we believe. Haha - what a perfect choice for both of those.

Who wants nutildah level investment advice? I mean look at his merit score. He must know his stuff right? I mean that level of trading talent must take some serious knowledge and study?  right?  Where are the Nutildah trading tips I want to send them to bezos and gates. Those 2 need to know what it feels like to live in the pharmacists shoes (well trainers with holes in).  

Nutildah aka THE ANTI-MIDAS - quick shower him in merits for his stupidity and false claims of trolling where he can present no counter argument.


This is not trolling my friends, this is valuable information that others should be privy to. Based upon observable instances in his post history. Of course he is free to debunk or refute these  correct and informative posts regarding his prior history here.

Who's up for the nutildah trading tips sheet? any takers?  His own $ value speaks volumes as to the value he can contribute to other members here.


Welcome the smarmacist. We almost forgot about you (because you are kinda irrelevant and always have been). However, you are right. Even you deserve a mention HugeBlackWoman. Don't worry we will not leave you out. Patience you broke down bum. PivX and Nav. Nice entry you timed there you dumb fool.

The pharmacist reads the initial post and says  only 2 have any real drama Yeah because all those other observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing are a brilliant reason to enlist them into positions of trust.  We will soon ask dark_star to offer up your best posts, so we can see why you are given a spot on the most lucrative sig campaign here. He seems to be hiring you on the bases of being a great poster and being honest. We will call him to debate on that soon perhaps. This will be an interesting one.

Are you a great poster and honest too?  HugeBlackWoman? I mean to a level that should ensure YOU get to be one of the very very very select group of sig spammers for the highest pay rates? Because we can not find even 1 original thought inspiring post that you have made that stands up to close scrutiny. You seem to just find threads and then just find your own way to agree or disagree with what someone else has already said. Totally worthless contributions.

Perhaps campaign managers need to be examined next.  Looks like the entire sig campaign arena is one big gamed and manipulated club and does not seek to find the very best posters and most honest members at all does it?

These trolling false accusations are great though for motivation.

Anyway patience patience my dear Dirty Turds, Demonic Traitors, Devious Twats, (feel free to put forward your own appropriate D and T words) you will all get you place in the initial post.

Look at suchmoron, practically pleading for her own place up there in shining lights. Haha, okay fatty hold on tight. Why not try to debunk some of those observable instances rather that screaming your other meaningless garbage and false accusations . Get on with it, we like destroying you in public. SAVE SOME VOTES FOR SUCHMOON that greedy slob needs some love too.

There must be something lost in translation. You seem very confused or else we are not getting what your point is. Clearly state your point instead of hinting at it. #

How do you suggest we present for analysis that  we were not sure if other members were acting in the same way due to not having read all threads on this board.

@TMAN the auction scammer - please keep your weird low functioning spew to yourself.

Reserved for more Dirty Turds.

Local rules - this is a discussion regarding the observable instances of DT members engaging in clearly negative and untrustworthy behaviors only. Those on default trust DT1 DT2 DT3 may be discussed and nobody else.

** it is possible there is some incorrect information here, however NOTHING we have seen leads us to believe it is incorrect currently. We will amend this post if it comes to light any parts of it are incorrect.


So our DT has been taken over by a bunch of people that are OBSERVABLY DIRTY.  These people have been allowed to game the merit system,  rewarding each other for their low functioning spew and now due to a genius level design they are AUTOMATICALLY "trust worthy" ??

Oh really? so although Theymos seems to only just be waking up to the FACT that many of these scum bags on DT will do or say ANYTHING to ensure they remain in DT and merit cycling circles here. He seems not to have noticed they leverage these positions to ENSURE they grasp hold of the highest paying and most lucrative sig spots via their PALS who (also DT and merit cyclers).

If this was not enough...  the clues are

1. They mostly all cycle merit to each other
2. They mostly  all vote to include each other on DT (via their foolishly given right to be the ones to decide on WHOM is eligible for DT)
3. They mostly all seem to be creaming off the best paying (in btc) sig spots via their pals who are campaign managers.
4. The central cluster of Dirty Turds also seem to exclude the same people from dt.
5. They will use the "TRUST" system to punish whistle blowing of their prior observable wrong doing.




If you happen to be dumb enough NOT to clearly see how this operates then try reading over this thread a few times until it penetrates your skull.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088852.0

It is clear the entire systems of control reward and encourage gaming of these broken systems and that they are WIDE open to gaming and manipulation.


If that was NOT ENOUGH let us examine some OBSERVABLE INSTANCES  of their prior wrong doing that is UNDENIABLE.

THIS LIST WILL BE UPDATED AS WE HAVE THE TIME AND INCLINATION. Feel free to add your own RELEVANT and ON TOPIC information regarding the observable prior behaviors of DT members that demonstrate they are clearly not suitable for a position of trust.


Without further ado - The DIRTY TURDS or as we know them DT members.

Investigate these for yourselves to confirm, they are fully verifiable - unless they have done a nutildah and gone and edited their post histories trying to mislead people about their past wrong doings.


TMAN

This person is clearly a low functioning imbecile. We have previously challenged it to present it best original thought inspiring posts for analysis (since his account was showered in merits to boost it from hero to legendary. He could not provide ANYTHING of real value or merit. He claims he is given merit because people find his swearing and sexual deviant ramblings are entertaining. So he has zero value with regard reaching the optimal solution or opinion. He simply does not have the capacity to add any kind of value to this board.

He is also implicated in some VERY dirty and dangerous behaviors here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

His known PALS both owlcatz and lauda are both implicated in the same extortion attempt.

Seems Tman also is not above a bit of scamming directly when it suits him (we quote OG below who discovered this)

"TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060 "


Tman has also admitted in black and white that he used the trust system to punish those that present observable instances (facts) of wrong doing by his friend Lauda.


Tman blackmailing people buying some debt for 1 satoshi then trying to use threats to get the person to pay him magnitudes more under threat 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206130.msg53238785#msg53238785

Tmans shit posting, low level swearing and sexual deviance

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5138619.msg50867819#msg50867819


This DIRTY TURD is currently a merit source and DT.  Time to flush that filthy piece of shit.


Nutildah

This idiot has gone as far as to define himself EVIL and willing to knowingly facilitate scams for a price.

In 2014 he was running around this board screaming for people to have negative trust for selling accounts here. He claimed they were EVIL and knowingly facilitating scamming.

In 2016 he decided to turn EVIL and knowingly facilitate scamming himself for the small price of 0.3BTC which was the price he offered his account for sale for.

Later (like many months later) SOMEONE announced from the nutildah account it was no longer for sale.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

So he is either

1. EVIL and willing to facilitate scamming

or

2. A liar who now claims he never sold the account and is the original nutildah.

He has also abused the trust system to try to discredit people that have whistle blown on his prior actions.  Now he starts some "official trolling poll" it looks like quite a few persons on that poll are certainly NOT trolls and their posts and central points have never been refuted successfully. It looks like another attempt to TRY to discredit whistle blowers and silence those who mention these DIRTY TURDS prior observable wrong doing.

TO DATE NO DT HAS GIVEN HIM RED TRUST ALTHOUGH MANY LOVE TO SLAP RED ON OTHER ACCOUNT SELLERS/BUYERS. Those that certainly do not knowingly wish to facilitate scamming or want to turn evil. His pal lauda said there is nothing that can be said that would cause him to red trust nutildah. Sounds like some serious double standards don't ya think???


Lauda or LaudaM

Well, where does one start with this filth bag. Scammer, liar, trust abuser, implicated in extortion schemes and shady looking escrow deals.

If a persons should even present observable instances of his wrong doing he plastered their accounts with red trust, that was doubled up on by TMAN, Owlcatz and Yogg the fool.

Here read Lauda the (prior) MOD, DT, - one of the most widely trusted members here (by other scumbag DT members)  These corrupt bunch of shit stains would not even remove him from DT after seeing this evidence many times.  Even at the request of Theymos they would not remove this filthy piece of scamming dirt. Finally he was removed from DT1 by theymos manually. NOT for all this prior observable scamming and dangerous actions but it seems because he was still determined to use the trust system to silence any critic of his.  For some reason his OBVIOUS prior abuse still remains as a mark other members accounts WHY??

Enjoy Lauda's CV for a trust position. We quote our own prior investigative work and that of others investigative work below.

1.  lauda, owlcatz , tman - extortion attempt which many senior members believe WAS a real attempt to extort another member

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

2. laudas et als shady looking escrow dealings concerning 3000BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4895354.msg44083126#msg44083126

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

3. laudas PROVEN lie for financial gain (SCAMMING) that he was on the launch of xcoin/dark and there was NO Instamine whilst holding bags of it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=560138.msg6748208#msg6748208

a/ what flag is suitable for a directly effected member?
b/ what flag is suitable for a concerned member that was not directly effected?

If you say you would encourage others to read though his post history you got a scam tag which his friends Tman, Yogg and owlcatz then doubled down on when you started to point out that people should be made aware of their trust abuse. SCUM BAGS that are still on DT


This Dirty Turd has been semi- flushed but there are serious stain marks left in the bowl.  

xtraelv

Undeniable scammer supporter. Claims the observable instances in the intial post are NOT grounds for red trust and are not scamming. Claims that Tmans auction scamming deliberate deception for financial gain and trying to punish and shut down other members giving fair appraisal of the item is not scamming or financially high risk behavior. He claims that is behavior that is fully acceptable from a DEFAULT TRUST member here. He is also on default trust due to the mutual back scratching support from other undeniable scammers aside from tman.

He claims that deceiving people deliberately for financial gain is not scamming it is  "ONLY MAKING COMMENTS"  which anyone is allowed to do he says, so presumably if you only lie or scam using words here you can adopt the "ONLY MAKING COMMENTS" defense and you will be okay. Well if you are DT friend of xtraelv that is. If you are not he will red trust you for " not answering questions" about "possible" scamming.

Also started some very worrying under age sex references several times that he seemed to keep going on about even though there was no reason for him to suddenly bring that up (except in his over fucked up mind)  Go read his excuses and bullshit to excuse UNDENIABLE SCAMMING.

This post is our summary of his moronic slobbering and scammer defending.  But if you want his actual imbecilic words track back a few pages from this post..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170789.msg53001936#msg53001936

SCAMMING FOR MONEY using only words is " ONLY MAKING COMMENTS". anyone is free to make comments xtraelv says.

If you are not DT members I am not sure the " ONLY MAKING COMMENTS" defense will work for you.  I mean don't try making comparisons with xtraelv, he claims having independently verifiable undeniable observable instances of his friends undeniable scamming....is the same as him accusing you with no evidence of stealing a giraffe and killing it. A person devoid of all logic and reason. Highly financially dangerous, perhaps so more than the scammer tman who does not will not even deny it was scamming. His crazy excuses are hilarious go view the xtra elv policeman sketch and compare them to his excuses on the prior pages. That is NOT us just messing with him. Look at his excuses.




VOD

This idiot uses the trust system to punish a person for requesting he presents some form of evidence before repeating an accusation against one of the most trusted members of this board. YES gives red trust because you will not allow him to sully your thread with ANOTHER repetition of a prior accusation (that is there 2x already) without presenting evidence. A fucking nut case.

Also thinks it is fine to dox a forum treasurer placing both them and the boards funds in danger.

Supporter (by inclusions) of MANY other observably untrustworthy scum bags on this board.

Another scared little bitch who is intimidated by lauda and his gang - this clearly demonstrates the systems of control are broken and that he is weasel and pussy. Read his quotes in the post below.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137144.msg50915510#msg50915510

Not the very most stinky of the DIRTY TURDS here but still one that needs to be flushed.


Yogg

This person is possibly an Alt of lauda or Tman or Owlcatz. A total abuser of his trust position. This dumb untrustworthy piece of shit believes that if someone ADMITS to giving you red trust for posting facts about observable prior wrong doing (OF HIS FRIENDS OR ALTS) then if you say if you don't remove the TRUST ABUSE (given for whistle blowing) you will be making sure everyone knows about what happens... Then YOGG will say that is reason to back up his PALS trust abuse and add more red trust.

Yogg of bitcoin talk is untrustworthy I would advise against using any services provided by user yogg of bitcointalk as we view him as highly untrustworthy and keeps company and supports those that are OBSERVABLE scammers and liars.

We would say you can consider yogg of bitcointalk a proxy or alt of lauda or tman.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098315.0


HHampuz

Another dirty scumbag with a fine pedigree of supporting scammers trust abuse and many other fine examples of UNTRUSTWORTHY behaviors.

Investigate him for yourselves. Start here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147938.msg51448589#msg51448589 and also take note of the initial post in that thread.

Supporting Lauda and Tman regularly and the supporting of the doxing of our forum treasurer is really an indication of the sort of dirty turd we are dealing with here.


LFC_Bitcoin (Lauda's Felching Clown)

This is a spineless, weak and pathetic individual that was CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED to be a BITCH of lauda's gang.

He will even turn against his "supposed" friends out of fear for losing favor with his masters on this board.

Lauda's Feltching Clown -

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136759.0

Read above thread.

Can be considered a proxy or alt of lauda in our opinion. His posts before 2017 are thousands of 1 liner speculation crap. Low value bitch and slime ball.  Not to mention a trust abusing piece of dirt.


The Pharmacist AKA Huge Black Woman.

The smarmacist, a sneaky snake tongued fool. Lecturing others on financially motivated shit posting and "trolling". Then what do we find out about this weasel?

He has been sneakily using a sock puppet account to racist troll spam ANOTHER sig for extra btc dust. This other puppet racist sig spamming troll account is HugeBlackWoman

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg17808231#msg17808231

Only others are trolls and financially motivated shit posters.

The funny thing is he got busted whilst trying to move from one sig to a higher paying one. Sneaky devious and double standards shit poster.  Ask him to present his best thought inspiring posts and he can NOT. He is not capable of producing posts with original value. When asked what his best achievements on this board were in all the years he has been here he said that is was....GETTING ON TO A HIGHLY PAID SIG CAMPAIGN.

Has until recently been a HUGE supporter of the proven liar and scammer lauda, including him on DT, and many other dirt bags like Tman ect.  A truly corrupt and disgusting little gimp.  He said once he did not know if lauda scammed people or not with the escrow but he would SUPPORT HIM ANYWAY regardless. Apparently out of loyalty. Sounds like just the person you want on DT.

Calls out observable instances of truth as TROLLING to try to discredit whistle blowing.

Not the worst of the worst, but people like this sneaky double standards little shit entrench the REAL bad guys into positions of power. Should be removed from DT and merit source at a minimum. Take his sig away and watch that account never post again. His ONLY redeeming quality seems there is a limit to the depth he will plant his tongue in laudas ring piece. He flat out refused to exclude bill gator so we can perhaps leave him his sig for now the broke down bum and hope he improves his behavior. Perhaps hope for this scum bag in the future but we don't see any market improvement regarding branding observable instances of truth as TROLLING. Idiot.


Suchmoon aka suchmoron.  Not bad BBW open to offers if wins. Face ntb I guess and we have a hot air balloon crashed in a field near our place to cover the rest. Get your votes in now. If you're a breast man then change your votes to suchmounds now you will NOT be disappointed. This information is based upon a possible photo of suchmoon that someone shared with us. If it turns out to be a big guy with lots of back hair then that's life on bitcointalk - got to get bones interested as well.


Seems to be a front man for the gang of liars and scammers and other untrustworthy scum bags.  No observable financially motivated wrong doing and does not spam a sig NOW A CHIPMIXER SIG SPAMMER LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER DIRTY TURDS HERE. That is where the good news ends with this fat slob. She includes many of the MOST untrustworthy shits on this board on to DT. She is possibly an alt of lauda. We say this on the basis that she was always found kissing Theymos ass hole UNTIL Theymos must have been fed a RED PILL and suddenly realized that EVERYTHING we had been saying about Lauda using the trust system to punish whistle blowers and just generally using it for his own purposes was TRUE. Theymos even then decides to be nice to lauda and not just announce lauda is blacklisted for being a scumbag and trust abuser. Rather theymos asks over 100 other members to simply exclude Lauda from DT. I mean considering Lauda is a proven scammer and implicated in ALL manner of other untrustworthy actions seems quite fucking reasonable. Suchmoon then stabs theymos in the back trying to spin that THEYMOS is now being sneaky and devious and that is NOT APPROPRIATE to request a proven liar, scammer and trust abuser implicated in many other financially motivated wrong doings is removed from a position of TRUST LOL

Yeah because to be sneaky you would send it to 100 of laudas known pals and that is so unreasonable. So suddenly suchmoon trys to spin this kind act into a negative sneaky and heavy handed action??? why react like that after kissing theymos ass forever?  seems like there is some VERY CLOSE connection between the lauda account and the suchmoon account.

Also gross double standards from this slob. Has given red trust to people for supporting or advertising for "possible scams" then decides to include on DT a proven liar and scammer also implicated in MANY other financially motivated wrong doings.

She also tried to claim bill gator was UNTRUSTWORTHY for presenting a PM from Lauda's Feltching Clown because she claims these are PRIVATE messages and can not be presented in public. Then it was found SHE HERSELF had posted in public other members private messages to her.

Suchmoon spent weeks pretending to believe merit is a valid and reliable metric that is not subjective manipulated junk that is gamed and dangerous ( so her and her pals can continue gaming it to control rank and trust score of other members). Then she debunked her entire argument by saying that "good poster" and " bad poster" are MEANINGLESS terms without strict definition and criteria to measure them against. LOL suchmoron.

Tries to get people banned straight after they dare to disagree with her or the gang (she supports) agenda here. Her suspected sock puppet is ScumBuster. Uses the gamed metric of deleted posts and some weak sauce copy and paste crap to target specific individuals. Sneaky and devious.

Certainly not DT material nor merit source. Perhaps not a scammer but certainly a supporter and protector of known scammers and liars and still a Dirty Turd that needs flushing. Only worth engaging with if you like to have some banter with a BBW.



Owlcatz

Implicated in the same extortion attempt with her dirty turd pals Lauda and Tman. Also seems to run to double down on the trust abuse that her pals lauda and tman leave to try to cover their skid marks on this board. They think by slapping red trust on your account that it stops people believing in the independently verifiable instances of their prior wrong doing.

Also includes the same bunch of lying and scamming dirt bags she apparently tries to extort with and trust abuse with.

Not really worth any further mention. Pretty much just another proxy of lauda and tman.

Agent foxpoop aka foxpup. - the merit fountain that new stops giving to his fellow merit cycling dirty turd pals, often for total shit posts. If you try to scrutinize his statements/opinions (which he voices as if they are valid rebuttals) he will simply say opinions don't need to be based upon reasoning. So presumably anything he says must be discounted until you validate it for yourself. Like his opinion of the other dirty turds being trustworthy perhaps lol.. I mean of course you want to make some a merit source and give them a TON of merits to hand out based on his " opinions" on the value of their post. You can see where that may be a problem haha. I mean if you can not then just take a look at some of his merit allocations. I mean if you are ever found giving Tman a merit then this really should be instance blacklisting and investigation into possible sexual deviance haha

nullius aka nerdius or noobius

The waffling nerd speak twat is a lauda scammer support. This account bounced back after 1 year slobbering around in mommy's basement to launch a TRUST ABUSE on poor old CH for..... yep apparently because cryptohunter said, that although peasant plagiarists should be banned it is in bad taste to ridicule their stories of hungry families and lives of abject poverty. NERDIUS says that "suggesting" that people should not ridicule them is UNTRUSTWORTHY and certainly reason to fear trading with CH. NERDIUS says that even though he was starving and poor once, he feels no empathy (actually he has previously made a lengthy boring and pathetic post where he states he does not have empathy and empathy is something to distance yourself from of course backed up by another sociopath (lauda).  These couple of filthy dumb cunt peasants say other peasants deserve no empathy now that they have succeeded in assuring themselves regular food from scamming or supporting scammers it seems. He seems to often boast he was one of the most merited and even had merits from gmax. WHO GIVES A FUCK. This nerd is a low functioning twerp who has sat there memorizing other peoples hard work and polishing his English. However you can NOT polish a turd. He seems to be trying to emulate the posting style of anonymint (but failing miserably) also anonymint would not be easy to crush in debate like nerdius.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214166.0

Keep an eye on this dirty lauda assfeltcher. Looks like another sociopath that will hang with the worst scammers asslicking them in public whilst seeking spurious grounds to trust abuse honest members who speak up against his scamming pals.


Other turds that need flushing that are not even worthy of making the poll.



Adolphinwolf  - this dumb piece of shit thinks you can give people a scam tag for self moderating their own thread and deleting garbage with no supporting evidence. Also supports scammers and liars. Trust abuser and general scum bag.

Direwolf ( or something like that, we can't even be bothered to remember his username it's such a low functioning burger flipping dreg) claims that observable truths (facts) like the pharmacist also being HugeBlackWoman are actually the OPPOSITE of facts. Trying to discredit the truth is UNTRUSTWORTHY. Supports scammers being on DT also.

SaltySpitoon - seems to think he can change his definition of "words" to their opposite to protect a proven scammer like lauda. We mean change the definition within just one thread to one that suits him better when the rest of his argument was debunked.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153864.0

Not sure if he is untrustworthy or was just exposed to some lemon extract that day.

1miau - Liar, trust abuser and general imbecile. Seems to lack comprehension of the English language also. Supporter of other untrustworthy scum bags. Flush this turd asap.

Bitmover - trust abuser and general idiot. Thinks he can use your account as an example of one that requires further punishment and then when you stand up for yourself he says it is unfair to make a sensible and credible defense and call him out for being thick as shit.  Thinks you can have a scam tag for this?? fucking bozo... ah that reminds us.

Moronbozo - known to his pals as marlboroza or some stupid name. Trust abusing scum bag and supporter of scammers and liars like lauda. Tried to give a true legend a scam tag by tricking him with "scare quotes" mixed in with other REAL quotes of what the true legend had  said previously. Makes up strange accusations like you are a spammer of....... WORDS. Yep no more spamming words. Dumb fool that needs to be flushed with the other turds stinking up the board. More weird and annoying than anything else. He seems incapable of making a clear point. Well tbh there is not much it seems capable of except being a general fool and entertainment.

Lafu - dumb ass shit poster who is also a trust abuser. Supporter of liars and scammers on DT. Also associated with an exchange that looks to have pulled a huge exit scam. Beware of this snake.

o_e_l_e_o - some low functioning fool and ass licker. Not really worthy of even a mention but still a dirty turd supporter.

mosprognoz - or some shit name is a scammer supporter and moronic troll, that claims presenting observable instances of financially motivated wrong doing my DT members = mental illness and trolling. Clearly a supporter of LAUDA if not lauda himself. Showing a nice willingness to work and profit WITH scams he has defined as scams himself previously. That thread was archived once he started to BLACKMAIL and extort eddie and even turned nasty on poor old chunky trunks suchmoon, trying to claim she is perhaps guilty of scamming people (this is largely believed to be untrue to be fair to her or at least unproven). These types are only nice whilst you let them scam or work with scams for their own profit.




Hilarious and co/ Hilarious etc

This mod is CORRUPT and bias. He supports KNOWN and PROVEN scammers on to DT1. He deletes on topic relevant posts of those that go against the group of dirty turds. He refuses to delete a low value garbled insult like this


He posts off topic irrelevant crap in the " funny threads section"  and when you voice an objection or post your own on topic reply he just moderates your post away.
Starts crying if you suggest sigs should be removed ( He spams 2 sigs)
Says your posts are rubbish then when challenged to present the rubbish posts he refuses and says I can believe they are rubbish if I want.
Scum bag

Flying Hellfish

Another dumb ass in a mod position. How can someone as thick as shit like this be allowed to be so obviously bias and be permitted to stay in a mod position??.
Should be flushed with his turd idols like tman and lauda (same fortunejack sig spammer) possible alt of tman, lauda, all those fortunejack spammers sound VERY similar at times. Beware and keep an eye on him.





These lower level micro turds need to be kept well away from positions of trust.




LOTS MORE COMING SOON

All backed with observable instances of clear wrong doing get ready to vote for the stinkiest DIRTY TURD on this board.

You say this like it is a negative thing.

We came. We brought the red pills. The reality that being top 100 merit earners is not a positive or exciting prospect was realized and BOOM the party ended.

You are mistaking accusations with statements of observable truth.

Imagine the alternative. People all screaming how awesome and cool they are for cycling or feltching for merits by the ton and enticing others to believe this is a POSITIVE thing. That's just very dangerous for this board. Group think and free speech getting crushed under weight of the stampede of those wanting to spam their sigs at a high rate willing to say or do anything to gain merits and favor.

No thanks.

Devise a REAL transparent sensible threshold for attaining merit. Give it some semblance of MERIT not just "likes" and then we will get on board with it. Not whilst it is so dangerous and misleading.

There is no point having allies unless they BELIEVE in creating a transparent and fair set of standards that ensure all members are treated equally.

The truth and observable instances need no allies. They are the observable truth nothing can change that.

Change for the better will find no allies in meta board. Why? because meta board is stacked full of those that benefit the MOST from it being as it is now.  They have a vested interest in seeing the status quo remain as it is.  They will believe or claim to believe anything to keep it as it is now. 

We only want allies that REALLY want there to be transparent fair rules that ensure all members are treated equally. Not people that even want to see a few changes that can make it a bit better for themselves. These allies are obviously not going to be found easily.

People are naturally very selfish and are happy to see things unfair so long as they benefit. This movement can not succeed until people are FORCED to accept a set of standards that are PROVABLY fair. They won't accept them willingly or support their introduction. Looking for allies from the tiny pool that will fair the worst by a provably fair system is going to be met with disappointment.

The only way to gain allies here to to  support the unfair systems as they sit now. We are not interested in those allies.

You want provably fair systems of control you will find no allies in meta.  Still allowing false information to proliferate unchallenged is not going to do any good.

If you are not a bad person or really do want fair transparent standards. That is good. You can be a secret supporter of ours. Because you need not like us but the observable instances we present and the implications are undeniable. We have several secret supporters actually that do not wish to be associated with us for their own good. We can appreciate this and empathize with their situation. Not all persons are able to endure disapproval on a large scale. We have no such concerns.

He should be removed from being a mod. He simply does not have the impartial good-for-the-entire-board attitude mods should clearly have.

In addition to that, he seems to have very strong sympathies for proven scammers and their dirty corrupt bunch of pals. That applies to several mods here not just him.

He seems to operate on a level similar to Tman which is pretty much what mods are to delete if we are to seek optimal performance.

Any person that makes continual accusations that fall to pieces under scrutiny should be removed from ANY position of power or trust here. If he is a merit source get that scrapped too.

I thought theymos said suspected merit abuse (not that you can abuse that junk in our opinion) is not meant to be grounds for red trust?

I would report the issue directly to theymos or ask in meta if merit behavior such as in this case ( but do not make it personal or it will be moved to rep) is grounds for red trust.

It may be that it is allowed now that the old red trust has little to zero meaning or weight. It is merely now feedback and is not related to scamming any longer in a strict sense like it was MEANT to be previously

Your proposal is stupid. It only seems a sensible proposal to those as low functioning as yourself. You see the problems is very simple. A "useless" post to a person who is thick-as-shit (such as yourself) is likely a HIGHLY VALUABLE contribution to those that have the ability to understand the relevant and on topic valid and independently verifiable points that posters such as ourselves are capable of making.

For instance - let us say we challenge you to bring here now even 1 post of our own where the central point was debunked. Go find it csmonkey and then present the clear analysis you have applied to it to demonstrate it is INCORRECT and that you can debunk it.

If you can do so (which you will not) then we will set you to find another 20 or so of them (still less than 5% of our posts) that you can demonstrate are incorrect also.

You see your brain is not capable of grasping that you are the USELESS and net negative member. Merely a shit munching fool trying to feltch away at the ass pipes of those you hope may shart some merit into your eager face so that you can spam your sig for a slightly higher rate.

If you really care what is best and optimal for the forum then just delete your account and never return. Also make sure anyone with close genetic links to yourself is also prevented from joining.

Your proposal is simply an attempt to silence those that you can not win debates or arguments with because you lack the intelligence to do so. If you can not debunk their central points then it your own posts that are useless and devoid of any value. Like the initial post you just made.

Let's rather scrape away the bottom feeders and morons (csmiami and other such dirt) who proliferate observably incorrect garbage like the initial post and kick off all the sig spammers who are only here for financial reasons and not because they are genuine enthusiasts that wish to help build the end to end decentralized and trustless arena the REAL ENTHUSIASTS want to see completed.

Free speech is the ONLY way forward for this movement, transparent and open debate. Peoples opinions directly related to the initial post/central point of any thread should be left in tact. If during the thread you can not debunk their points that are in opposition to your own then it is likely that your own points are garbage.

We think you should post your 5 BEST original thought inspiring posts so we can take a look at the output from one that seeks to judge others value here. Or will we be able to pull them to pieces as USELESS dirt?

DT (dirty turds) have a high concentration of idiots and those that have directly financially motivated dirt on them. I would not seek to use their opinions as some valid benchmark that does not require closer analysis. It seems we have started to see a shift of the most dirty and corrupt leaving DT1 but that is just a good start , these turds seem to be clinging though to DT2 which is worrying. These DINGLEBERRIES need to be flushed totally not still having their corrupt trust abuse hanging around stinking up the place.

Using DT as some kind of "must be correct" benchmark is not going to wash around here after the flagrant abuse of the trust system for so long, their OWN observable dirty histories in many cases and the fact one by one they are requesting to leave so their behaviors are not under such scrutiny.

People complaining about retaliatory feedback better make sure they have not used "feedback" as their own kind of retaliation for simply not winning an argument on thread or not appreciating someones opinion that they could not debunk. Or to try and silence whistle blowing.

The trust system is to warn people about direct financial risk and danger ONLY. If you use it for any other reason then you can not moan about getting retaliatory feedback without demonstrating clear double standards.

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TLDR - debunk their on topic relevant points or accept it is your own points that are likely the low value noise. Csmiami is clearly low functioning, ignore anything he says. He is suggesting crushing free speech and ensuring group think.

We need not present anything. It is for you to prove that we were certain there were no other instances that could be related to the above description.

Please don't seek to derail our thread with speculations on the " motivations" for posing a question. The implications are system wide and even if only one persons actions at that time could be related to which we described it does not say others could not suffer the same effects.

If you wish to believe we knew only hhampuz so far had adopted this new approach and were referring only to him that is fine. Please shut the fuck up about it and make your own thread. We wish to discuss it as a system wide problem and to demonstrate just how different this approach is to the "claimed" need to pre-emptively give tags and flags for "things" they believe could indicate the POSSIBLE danger of financial wrong doing in the future.

If you can not grasp the very clear difference here moronbozo then again that is fine. We have no interest in wasting time of the lowest of the low who know they have no real chance competing on a fair playing field and need to game the systems of control in their favor.

Your points are stupid and invalid each time we have the displeasure to encounter you.  There is no satisfaction in crushing your points because they are stupid and irrelevant to start with.

@bitcoinsupremeo

WTF are you even talking about .. please STFU and stick to the topic which is clear double standards and reversal of what they previously claimed was essential, the entire reason for there even being lemons flags or trust feedback. Sig campaigns and all other rev streams are central and core to the motivation for gaming the systems of control and preventing fair and equal treatment of all members.

Do not use our threads to spam your yobit scamming shit pit.

Well, there you go. You are too low functioning to understand the basic principles or even basic English and yet seek to present a bogus argument that falls to pieces under mild scrutiny.

You call something factual that is indeed observable INCORRECT.

You clearly have no understanding of the concept of defamation.

Asking hhampuz if he is knowingly hiring liars and scammers and then presenting credible and undeniable evidence of their prior lying and scamming is not defamation you poor retarded dreg. He actually replied that he was not responsible for hiring the person in question in that instance anyway.

There was no attack there was legitimate and credible questions asked. There were NO refutations or rebuttals to any of the evidence we presented. If it was untrue then why was it not debunked?

Please don't waste your time further or our own precious time. You are clearly not able to grasp even simple concepts. It could be your lack of English comprehension or just because you are a full on moron who can say. Either way your lack of ability seems to have manifested itself into a net negative annoyance that the board simply would be better without. Perhaps if you really would like to benefit the board the most sensible thing to do in your case is delete your account.

We are more interested in members that are motivated to see fair and equal standards applied to all members. Make your own union where more persons like yourself and other trust abusers just game the systems of control for your own ends whilst you all spam away the highest paying sigs.... oh wait that union has been around for a while

The only FACT here is that you are observably INCORRECT.