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561  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 08, 2014, 07:00:13 PM

Although I accept the arguments made against the altcoin industry, I am a participant in it by way of leasing 3 GPU mining rigs that are currently configured for the Litecoin-compatible Scrypt algorithm. The term of each lease is 72 hours and I get paid in bitcoin. I set the lease prices low enough to keep the rigs continually leased, and they remain slightly more profitable than using a multipool that automatically mines the most profitable altcoin and automatically sells the proceeds on an altcoin exchange for payment to me in bitcoin.
 
562  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 08, 2014, 04:00:32 AM

ETPLand! The Bitcoin theme park we are all hoping to visit someday soon. Wink

I would like an annual pass to Bitcoin ETPLand.
563  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 08, 2014, 03:54:21 AM
Fuck no! I sold almost all the BTC in my trading account to buy back lower. It's a hedge for me because the vast majority of my holdings are in cold storage. It's like buying life insurance. I'm making a bet I hope I lose. I will seriously consider selling other assets only if the price gets stupid low.

In the collapse of the April 2013 bubble I felt strongly that the retracement would be deeper than it turned out to be, based upon the notion that the April 2013 bubble would be similar in shape to the great 2011 bubble. I felt very bad having fiat in my trading account when prices went up and I had to buy back higher. I resolved to never make that mistake again. Which made me pull all coin out of MtGox well in advance of their subsequent troubles.

Better to be in bitcoin and watch prices go down, than to be in cash and watch prices go up - my experience.
564  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 08, 2014, 03:04:33 AM
[Anyway one has to recognise that the past exponential trend line MUST be broken sooner or later. The questions is only if it is broken this year (which I believe), the year after that, or the next. What would be the price of BTC in April 2017 if we would stay on the trend line ?  Wink

I have a logistic model of bitcoin adoption that suggests an expected price of $840,503 on July 1, 2017, if we stay on that trend line. Close enough?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArD8rjI3DD1WdFIzNDFMeEhVSzhwcEVXZDVzdVpGU2c
565  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 08, 2014, 03:01:23 AM
If $400 falls, it becomes a ceiling instead of a floor. I sold almost everything I have to defend that wall and it may not hold. If it breeches, we may not see another ATH this year. The good news is we'll have weeks if not longer to pick up $300 coins. Plenty of time to have a garage sale and move back in with Mom and Dad.

I understand that when you said "I sold almost everything I have to defend that wall" you mean that you sold ordinary belongings for fiat and used that cash to buy bitcoin. Right?

If so, then I have done something similar by selling an old gold bracelet for cash, then putting that cash into my local Robocoin ATM to buy bitcoin. I have been looking around the house for stuff I do not need anymore, but given my household's frugal lifestyle, there is not much left to sell. By agreement with my wife, my bitcoin portfolio is separate from our substantial retirement savings and real estate portfolio - so can't touch that.

Wow. You are actually selling shit to acquire more bitcoin?

Well yes. The stuff I sold I do not need. I strongly believe that 2014 is the last year in which one may easily buy bitcoin for under $1000. Additionally, because I think bitcoin goes to 1 million USD in 2018, I simply add three zeros onto the coins' purchase price and imagine what that would buy only four years from now, e.g. a car in 2018 for a $40 today. Ha.
566  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 08, 2014, 02:51:54 AM
If $400 falls, it becomes a ceiling instead of a floor. I sold almost everything I have to defend that wall and it may not hold. If it breeches, we may not see another ATH this year. The good news is we'll have weeks if not longer to pick up $300 coins. Plenty of time to have a garage sale and move back in with Mom and Dad.

I understand that when you said "I sold almost everything I have to defend that wall" you mean that you sold ordinary belongings for fiat and used that cash to buy bitcoin. Right?

If so, then I have done something similar by selling an old gold bracelet for cash, then putting that cash into my local Robocoin ATM to buy bitcoin. I have been looking around the house for stuff I do not need anymore, but given my household's frugal lifestyle, there is not much left to sell. By agreement with my still skeptical wife, my bitcoin cold wallet and hot wallet are separate from our substantial retirement savings and real estate portfolio - so can't touch the latter.
567  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 08, 2014, 01:41:49 AM
Does anyone have an idea when the BIT EFT will launch for the public?

The most optimistic estimate I have heard is Q4 2014.
Interesting.

My initial projection of the next bitcoin bubble peaks July-August and collapses by the fall. If indeed there is a summer bubble then no Wall Street ETF will fuel it.
568  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 07, 2014, 10:29:09 PM
Does anyone have an idea when the BIT EFT will launch for the public?
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: --[ANN] Launch: CatholicCoin - World's 1st & Biggest Religion & Good Cause Coin on: April 07, 2014, 05:43:05 PM
Has this crap coin been made yet or did the OP loose interest, realizing it was a stupid idea.


You did notice in the OP I said 30-90 days.


It's gonna be sha256d.  Only clueless devs launch anything but SHA.  SHA256 is the only way to go if you want security.  It's future proof.

Is it true that Luke-jr killed at least one altcoin with a 51% attack? His SHA256 Eligius pool is ranked #4 in SHA256 hashpower. And he knows how to wreck a blockchain. Or is Luke Jr on board with you?
570  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fiatleak.com showing massive, ongoing BTC buying from China on: April 07, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
If fiatleak only shows trades, then that means that the Chinese are not just the biggest buyers, but they are also the biggest sellers of bitcoin?

That's exactly right.

Zero fee trading is a good thing. Slippage on an exchange occurs when a big order cannot be filled at the market price because of a lack of liquidity. Zero fee trading permits human market makers, and computer algorithm software, to supply bids and asks very near to the current market price. Zero fee trading means less slippage and a better experience for the informed traders, according to the theory of market microstructure.
571  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 07, 2014, 05:24:47 PM
Would it also be life-changing for you if we donīt get a new bubble and instead fall down to <100$ ?

Many others share the belief that the Bitcoin Economy has a binary distribution with regard to probability of success. Either Bitcoin entirely replaces the existing legacy, pre-internet financial infrastructure, or it entirely fails to do so. Fortunately, if bitcoin prices go to zero, it would not be a life changing event for me. Rather I would simply commit all my freed up time to my research.

For me Bitcoin is not the end, but the best means to an end.
572  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: April 07, 2014, 05:07:40 PM
. . . What is really weird is that I am not that worried at all and feeling more excited than anything!  I can't wait for the next run.  This next run up in price could be truly life changing for us (as for many that joined in last year).   Smiley

That is exactly how I feel - not worried at all and feeling more excited than anything!

This next bubble will not be life-changing for me, as a lifetime of frugality, a good marriage, and compound interest have given me freedom for some years. But the bubble in 2015 will allow me to self-angel-fund my startup, and the bubble in 2016 will self-cover what would otherwise be VC round A.

Exciting indeed.
573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: America's First Bitcoin Gun Store on: April 07, 2014, 04:15:04 AM
This particular store also has a Robocoin Bitcoin ATM in the lobby. There is always plenty of free parking outside. It is my favorite bitcoin ATM in Austin - where we have two others downtown where parking is not often convenient.

I am not a gun enthusiast, but I love this store. I will be going there in the morning to buy more coin.
574  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining when it costs more in power than payout. on: April 07, 2014, 04:01:27 AM
I was hoping we could use another word for the collective noun, like a "crypto" of bitcoins or a "hash" of bitcoins. You know if you suspect another bubble in the future you should keep mining now.

Cultures have reified, i.e. named certain sized groups when that made sense to make conversation more concise. For example when I say a herd of cattle or a flock of birds, or a school of fish, you have a commonsense shared notion of how many individuals are in the group. Likewise, when I say a stack of dollars or a ton of gold, these group noun phrases suggest a certain quantity.

Given that the value of bitcoin is not yet stable, I think that it is premature to look for the sort of collective crypto noun phrases you mention. However, I would like to have a phrase that encompasses what is vulgarly called Fuck You Money - which is the quantity of money that allows one the freedom to live without working for a boss.

"shitload of coin"
"lot of coin"
"enough coin"
"frozen cold wallet of coin"
"Satoshi's lost stash of coin"
... etc.

If and when my power costs exceed my GPU rig leasing profits, then I will power off and buy coins with the the new found fiat that I would have otherwise spent on power.
575  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining when it costs more in power than payout. on: April 07, 2014, 02:43:26 AM
If everyone buys coin and switches of their rigs, then the last guy/girl mining will make a a lot of coin and also control bitcoin. What is the collective noun for bitcoin BTW?

Bitcoin is stuff-like, like gold, in that any piece of bitcoin may be subdivided and the portions are still bitcoin. This argues for the collective noun of Bitcoin to be Bitcoin. However, Bitcoin is also a currency unit, such as the Euro or Dollar or Peso, and unlike gold. In the context of currency units, the collective noun of bitcoin is bitcoins.

I go either way depending upon context. When I say I am going to buy some coin, I mean some under-specified amount of bitcoin that likely is a fraction of a BTC.

Satoshi Nakamoto reasoned that miners would self-regulate in that when rewards were likely miners would add capacity, and when rewards were unlikely compared to costs, then miners would subtract capacity. I shut my GPU rigs off in 2011 in the face of ASICs and climbing difficulty and turned them back with additional capacity in December 2013. I may have to turn off my rigs again if profits continue to diminish - while waiting for the next bitcoin bubble.
576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1BTC or 1oz of Gold. Which one would you take? on: April 06, 2014, 11:23:31 PM
Here is my first projection of what I think will be the next bubble this summer. Peaking at $6000 July-August, and collapsing to $3000 through the fall.

Any logic behind the $6K figure? Also why can't it happen in October or November?

Here is my first projection of the next bubble . . .

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=366214.msg6027236#msg6027236



The crucial, falsifiable, assumption is that the next bubble will be similar in shape to the previous two bubbles. My initial hand-projection of the previous two bubbles aligns the pre-peak bottoms. I assume that we are currently at the bottom of the November 2013 bubble collapse.

If indeed the next bubble peaks in November, then I project the peak price to be $12000 or so.
577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will have no more big "to the moon" rises anymore. Face reality "Crypto" on: April 06, 2014, 11:16:28 PM
Bitcoin, January 2013 - $13    "Bitcoin is never going to rise above $15 you crazy people"

Bitcoin, April 2014 - $460      "Bitcoin is dead, give up"

Bitcoin, January 2015 - Huh?

My favorite from 2011 . . .

There are still a lot of people with a lot of coins that were acquired when the price was well under a dollar.  If things continue, I'm sure many of them will be happy to cash out at even $5 (potentially profiting thousands of dollars in from a small initial investment in less than a year).  I think everybody should be prepared for things to get real ugly.  Honestly, I'm not even confident this project will survive a year as anything more than a tiny hobby with a market cap of a few million.  It looks to me like this ship is sinking, and I have a hard time imagining any well-funded investors foolish enough to jump on board at this point.
578  Other / Archival / Re: delete on: April 06, 2014, 10:59:48 PM
There is nothing left to mine, it all is basically unprofitable now. I can't even sell my mining equipment on Ebay, trying to sell 1.9 m/h system using 3 Twin Frozr 7950 gpu's for 1100.00 and no takers on Craigslist. I won't part it out on Fleabay because losers will buy the gpu's and use them for 45 days then say they are not as described. So I guess I will just throw the shit in the garbage.  I have a number of miners and no way to sell it.  The noise and wear and tear on the miners is not worth the measly few dollars it makes a day after electricity costs. Litecoin falls everyday, bitcoin is flushing down the shitter, and all the rest of the shit coins are done for also.

BCX, because I strongly believe that the next bitcoin bubble will occur this summer, I have postponed adding capacity to my GPU mining rigs - even though used equipment that meets my needs is now available for half the my cost two months ago. Rather, I have been buying coins at my local Robocoin ATM when I have the fiat cash, and also retaining the bitcoin profit that I get from leasing out my rigs. My plan is to spend coin when prices are some multiple of where they are now. Even if all the great deals vanish on Ebay, Craigslist, Amazon, etc., I still come out way ahead buying hardware during the bubble than at other times.

Your thoughts?
579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will have no more big "to the moon" rises anymore. Face reality on: April 06, 2014, 10:43:07 PM
Personally, I lost all of my BTC, originally had 5 BTC, turned it into 7 BTC, lost some on a bad trade, lost 45% of my BTC on Cex.io adding "futures options", which I had no idea they were doing(my fault I know). Then I accidentally did a max bet on Just dice and lost most of it, got like .2 BTC left right, then coinex gets hacked rofl... so im down to abotu .05 BTC total.

Despair.

Yet another sentiment data point indicating that we are near the bottom of this bubble collapse.

You obviously failed 7th grade English/Grammar class also. Please educate yourself on Tone/Moods of sentence structure.

Sigh, fucking idiots in here like usual.

Anger.

Negative sentiment prevails.

Bottoms are characterized by a lack of buyers. I cannot imagine a situation that would induce you to buy more bitcoins. Yet that, I believe, is the wisest course of action.

In the morning, when the store hosting my neighborhood Robocoin ATM opens, I will buy some more coin.
580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin will have no more big "to the moon" rises anymore. Face reality on: April 06, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
Personally, I lost all of my BTC, originally had 5 BTC, turned it into 7 BTC, lost some on a bad trade, lost 45% of my BTC on Cex.io adding "futures options", which I had no idea they were doing(my fault I know). Then I accidentally did a max bet on Just dice and lost most of it, got like .2 BTC left right, then coinex gets hacked rofl... so im down to abotu .05 BTC total.

Despair.

Yet another sentiment data point indicating that we are near the bottom of this bubble collapse.
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