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I updated the newest version and it finished DLing the blockchain, but it is showing some of my "old" assets and missing dome newer stuff, do you think redownloading the blockchain again will fix it?
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Nem will be the new better nxt
No NEM will be the new better BTC I hope it will be a better nxt so I can get NXT client off my PC, this shit is a hog and needsa to DL a new blockchain all the R%^@#%$ time haha,,, NXT is awesome, stop this shit. No need to compare NEM to any coin, especially not the bigger brother. My comment was made in jest relax! |
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Nem will be the new better nxt
No NEM will be the new better BTC I hope it will be a better nxt so I can get NXT client off my PC, this shit is a hog and needsa to DL a new blockchain all the R%^@#%$ time haha,,, |
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Merit of 8 billion NEM.(from a discussion until now)
1) Lucky number.---->popularity --------> large market
2) Soon, world population become 8 billion. ----> 1 NEM per 1 person!
3) 2 million NEM per 1 stakehloder (Double NEMillionaire) -------> Half sell, still NEMillionaire ----------> Wide distribution of NEM----------> NEM's popularity & prosperity.
Somebody please show me the merit of 4 billion NEM shortly.
If he shows the more merit, I will throw away 8 billion and support 4 Billion.
Thanks in advance.
The downsides of 8 bill are enough merrit for 4 bill. It was 4 bill for almost a year now and people are aware of that number. Changing it now will not only make people scratch their heads it will also look like we're all over the place changing stuff like this in the last possible moment out of superstition. Thanks. !. Would you please explain the downsides of 8 Billion NEM? 2. You pointed out "change of design(plan)". I understand your position. If I were a member of dev team, I would think like you,too. But Change of Design itself is not bad thing. Sometimes, Change of design is necessary for good result. !. Would you please explain the downsides of 8 Billion NEM? He just did. You can not make up the rules after the game has begun. Unless you want to lose investor confidence. This discussion is ridiculous. |
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sys should by all means get the money it's entitled from Moolah, which is looking scammier by the day.
But consider this: If SYS had not botched the launch, which became a source of widespread ridicule at the time, SYS would have had the entire escrow in hand. Instead, you were forced, by the loss of investor confidence created by the launch, to entrust a third party - Moolah - with a time-delayed, milestone-based escrow release plan to boost investor confidence. The price of SYS wouldn't be so exposed to Moolah risk if it hadn't been for that bad launch.
Crypto is a series of disappointments these days - one after another. And I think a lot of people/groups have conducted themselves badly. Moolah's just the latest, sadly.
SYS @ 190 sats and still continuing downtrend. Very volatile, but the trend is clear over the last 30 days. |
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Do you really want the number 4 billion? 4 means death in a lot of cultures.
It's true.
Especially in China, 4 is the worst number.
It equals to the 13th Friday in Western.
Edit/I basically agree to investment fund.
But it may have a problem of a lawsuit by stakeholders who did not receive coins in the future when NEM value is incredibly high.
Burning them erases this problem in advance.
Burning them will prevent this probable lawsuit and also result in investment fund increase in the end.(by the scarcity of NEM and high value of each NEM.)
what about 3,999,000,000? we could just burn one stake, or maybe even burn one NEM, and have it be 3,999,999,999. I personally would volunteer 1 of my NEM to be burnt pre-Genesis block, just to make Asians happy. I do know that this is serious. I once lived in a building with no 4th floor. Really, the elevator went 1, 2, 3, 5, 6..... People take this seriously. Not exactly the mark of the beast for Christians, but many Asians really don't like 4. Are we considering changing the total to something other than 4 billion units? What about 3,888,888,888? It has three triple 8's in sequence. In the Chinese culture this would be very fortunate. "In Chinese numerology, 888 has a different meaning, triple fortune, a strengthening of the meaning of the digit 8. For this reason, addresses and phone numbers containing the digit sequence 888 are considered particularly lucky, and may command a premium because of it." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/888_(number)Lucky numbers: Eight "The number 8 is viewed as such an auspicious number that even being assigned a number with several eights is considered very lucky." Unlucky numbers: Four "Number 4 is considered an unlucky number in Chinese because it is nearly homophonous to the word "death". Due to that, many numbered product lines skip the "4": e.g., Nokia cell phones (there is no series beginning with a 4), Palm PDAs, Canon PowerShot G's series (after G3 goes G5), etc. In East Asia, some buildings do not have a 4th floor." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_in_Chinese_culture The number 4 is omitted in some Chinese buildings. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/ShanghaiMissingFloors.jpgChina= 19% of the world's population. http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/china-populationWe would need to subtract 111,111,112 NEM (~111 stakes). If we want to keep it closer to the original 4 billion, a couple more choices: 3,999,888,888 double triple 8's (-111,112 NEM) 3,999,999,888 single triple 8's (-112 NEM) Or preferably just keep with the original 4,000,000,000, it's easier to remember. Yes 3,888,888,888 is a good number and it wouldn't take much to discard to reach. You wouldn't see that number on coinmarketcap but it's something which could be mentioned in media articles for sure. I'm not really sure what's happening in mainland China in regards to digital currencies. We know elsewhere that digital currencies are becoming popular in Hong Kong and Vietnam. NEM is something that could thrive in those two locations but also mainland China and island of Taiwan. Eventually South Korea and Japan will get into digital currencies as well. Despite MtGox being located there, Bitcoin hasn't really seen much adoption or usage in Japan itself - the emerging trend in Japan is Mona coin (that was $8 million at one point and almost entirely located within Japan) and maybe NEM could get popular over there. Creating 8 billion NEM might be good, too. 8 is a good number and everyone's stake could just be doubled. 8 billion NEM is also good, representing 8 billion humans. "According to the most recent United Nations estimates, the human population of the world is expected to reach 8 billion people in the spring of 2024." http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/#milestonesIn 10 years there will be 8 billion humans, that's around the same time when NEM is predicted to totally replace the worlds fiat system.  If you really care about the number of NEM, why don't you start a poll and discussion thread here: https://forum.nemcoin.com/index.phpThat way people can vote and comment on the idea. Now we are talking about re-coding this shit because of superstition? You are kidding me? This coin is NEVER getting released...  |
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Likely story is Moolahs assets will be frozen/seized. This means SYScoin will NEVER see the escrowed funds. This is real talk, be prepared for some serious turbulence. I for one am moving my small SYS investment into something else for the time being. Sorry everyone.
It's bad to hear you want to move away from SYS in a situation the coin itself is not harmed, the development continues and a company fails that does not own any of the SYS development. Once again, chosing moolah as escrow provider appears a very bad choice in the light of recent events. But Moolah does not own the team or any development of it! Just owns a large portion of the funds for development, and the name association is a reality. Just protecting my investment as I have a suspicion I know where this goes...  |
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Likely story is Moolahs assets will be frozen/seized. This means SYScoin will NEVER see the escrowed funds. This is real talk, be prepared for some serious turbulence. I for one am moving my small SYS investment into something else for the time being. Sorry everyone.
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We still haven't begun phase two redemption correct?
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LAB is getting pumped on Bittrex, just getting started so hurry!
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My NEM had been stolen
f**K!!!
Huh? |
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When people paid to buy a NEM stake I don't remember there being a time limit to claim the stake. It is just my opinion but I think we all need to keep grounded and not lose sight of common sense values (such as if someone pays for something it belongs to them). Otherwise what kind of movement are we really creating?
You keep ignoring the fact that leaving 100s of stakes open forever means that there is good chance someone with access to BTT server will have power to steal these stakes and kill/crash nem completely. How is that crypto? The fate of unclaimed stakes must be decided before the distribution. That is the first good argument I have heard for having a time limit on claiming the stakes. One month is still too short we need to give people more time ... EDIT: Although I don't think there is a good chance that would happen. They said they would offer a refund. |
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People should have a year to claim their stakes...
Are you trying to give patmast3r an embolism? I even disagree with the guy but am starting to feel bad for him. |
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Do you really think Chinese don't know about Vpn's? Cmon guys...
About hacked, stolen & lost accounts, really this is getting boring...i start to think this is just some bs to get some free stakes.
Anyway if You lost your account it's your fault. Devs should focus on more important stuff!
Many people missed NXT distribution, despite registering, and this also occurred with many many coins. Heck there were probably people back in 2009 / 2010 who got free BTC (even large amounts in the 100s and 1000s) and ignored it. I think it was decided long ago what should be done with unclaimed stakes and the consensus was largely the same, so it's not really up to discussion anymore. You yelling what you want, and how it is unfair that you're not getting it, isn't a discussion. This is the case of a vocal minority who apparently wants free or cheap stakes. Point taken. I will just be satisfied our opinion was heard. Thanks. |
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We are playing like broken records. I already said other coins had a cut off and it didn't result in any controversy. You snooze you lose. We already have Chinese NEMsters who've commented on here and on the NEM forum after China blocked BTT.
Before China blocked BTT there were other coins where many people missed distributions, like those 14 people in NXT (IIRC) or the 200 in NODE
"You snooze you lose..." Wow how New Economy Movement of you. The New Economy Movement will not make it EASY for everybody. Just sitting back and expecting everything to go great for you just doesnt work. Intense competition is a pre-requisite to an overall healthy economy. Progress can be made under intense competition but there are winners and losers, thats life and the guys that sit on their fat asses and do nothing are usually the losers. Can we have your contact information to forward to the first person that comes here and finds his stake was given away? We need someone to at least answer to those people if it happens. I assume that would be you? They can pm me and I'll gladly explain to them that investing and never checking in doesn't work. Fair disitribution doesn't mean we're going to drive home to everyone asking them to please have the decency to take those 1000 $ we're offering them. This does $1000 come with a T-Shirt and free chocolate mints? Maybe even a song and dance "Your NEM! Your NEM! P-O-I! P-O-I. . have some NEM... buy some NEM... NEM TIME!", you can have of those confetti launchers shooting off. Did those stake holders give you money or are they getting those stakes for free? Maybe they did "check in" the first 2-3 times this coin was delayed? I am here and getting my coins so it is of no pain to me what happens, but it sure seems wrong to not at least refund their initial investment if there was one. There was a refund period and some people did get refunded. Would you like to point me to the point in time where NEM was delayed multiple times ? You know it's obvious you have an aversion towards NEM. Why don't you just leave ? I love NEM, I don't like the idea of the deadline to claim stakes. |
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We are playing like broken records. I already said other coins had a cut off and it didn't result in any controversy. You snooze you lose. We already have Chinese NEMsters who've commented on here and on the NEM forum after China blocked BTT.
Before China blocked BTT there were other coins where many people missed distributions, like those 14 people in NXT (IIRC) or the 200 in NODE
"You snooze you lose..." Wow how New Economy Movement of you. The New Economy Movement will not make it EASY for everybody. Just sitting back and expecting everything to go great for you just doesnt work. Intense competition is a pre-requisite to an overall healthy economy. Progress can be made under intense competition but there are winners and losers, thats life and the guys that sit on their fat asses and do nothing are usually the losers. Can we have your contact information to forward to the first person that comes here and finds his stake was given away? We need someone to at least answer to those people if it happens. I assume that would be you? They can pm me and I'll gladly explain to them that investing and never checking in doesn't work. Fair disitribution doesn't mean we're going to drive home to everyone asking them to please have the decency to take those 1000 $ we're offering them. This does $1000 come with a T-Shirt and free chocolate mints? Maybe even a song and dance "Your NEM! Your NEM! P-O-I! P-O-I. . have some NEM... buy some NEM... NEM TIME!", you can have of those confetti launchers shooting off. Did those stake holders give you money or are they getting those stakes for free? Maybe they did "check in" the first 2-3 times this coin was delayed? I am here and getting my coins so it is of no pain to me what happens, but it sure seems wrong to not at least refund their initial investment if there was one. |
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We are playing like broken records. I already said other coins had a cut off and it didn't result in any controversy. You snooze you lose. We already have Chinese NEMsters who've commented on here and on the NEM forum after China blocked BTT.
Before China blocked BTT there were other coins where many people missed distributions, like those 14 people in NXT (IIRC) or the 200 in NODE
"You snooze you lose..." Wow how New Economy Movement of you. The New Economy Movement will not make it EASY for everybody. Just sitting back and expecting everything to go great for you just doesnt work. Intense competition is a pre-requisite to an overall healthy economy. Progress can be made under intense competition but there are winners and losers, thats life and the guys that sit on their fat asses and do nothing are usually the losers. Can we have your contact information to forward to the first person that comes here and finds his stake was given away? We need someone to at least answer to those people if it happens. I assume that would be you? |
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We are playing like broken records. I already said other coins had a cut off and it didn't result in any controversy. You snooze you lose. We already have Chinese NEMsters who've commented on here and on the NEM forum after China blocked BTT.
Before China blocked BTT there were other coins where many people missed distributions, like those 14 people in NXT (IIRC) or the 200 in NODE
"You snooze you lose..." Wow how New Economy Movement of you. |
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I would create a random password as a key for the account and send them the password by bitcointalk. This way management can close
(still cannot believe, we´re discussing any other options)
Agreed we shouldn't be. |
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