HOW FAST DO THE 5 CARD KITS HASH
1TH (power saver) to 1.1TH (Nominal) to 1.3TH (Turbo) |
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I do not want a kit, I would just like a refund.
Alright, please write to orders@advancedminers.com and someone will get back to you. Thanks. |
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Yes, I am also afraid to get a miner and only want a refund. They said they were giving certain people "the miners that overheat".
Well that might be true that they said that BUT they did say they disclosed that information to the clients. Keep it in context. Not like they underhandedly sent them that. If so we would certainly know about that already. this is true. if they openly said you can have a miner in a case, that may or may not set fire to itself, you and your house and you said "ok" its on you not them. plus anyone who has taken the kit option has to provide a psu and or an lcd screen and accept such purchases as part and parcel of the deal. it seems some people on here wish to have the last nay say about amt. i for one after recieving my "kit" will review the power/performance of the unit. it also gives me the option of customizing, i like the idea of the touch lcd posted before and i may also do custom cooling and casing pictures will follow as soon as things arrive. edit your tv may cause a fire if left on stand by and your pc/gpu mining rig may also just go up in flames. amd do not accept responsibility or even disclose that the gpu may explode but it could You guys are making mountains out of hills again. We offered the kit option for 2 reasons alone. 1. We noticed 3 out of 4 clients are removing their miners from the case anyway, either to look at it and or to give it better airflow or what ever. We know that because they are asking questions about reversing the fans, switching the modules, etc etc. 2. Its a faster build and shipment process. It gets people miners faster and gets our shipments over with, and maybe these 18 hour days can turn into 12 hour days. That's all. Please stop making mountains out of hills. We would like to get a few more opinions we'd like to get from you guys about what to throw in the kit. |
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But to be clear. They have openly said miners are causing fires/overheating. I want a refund more now than ever as I fear for my property and family. It is not only my finances strained but safety.
Wait what? Quote that? what post? We never said they miners are causing fires or overheating. The miner runs fine and perfectly, sometimes the chips can get a bit hot when running in turbo mode, but thats expected of any miner. |
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Yes, I am also afraid to get a miner and only want a refund. They said they were giving certain people "the miners that overheat".
You seemed to be turning around there, and being a bit more nice on this thread. We've added you to the kit list as requested despite your claims. Would you like us to remove you from that list or send you're miner, a bit confused here. Also we have no intentions of delivering bad miners to anyone, despite their behavior. This is a product that our clients ordered and despite our feelings towards those clients it is our obligation to deliver to a working product. |
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I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption?
I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue.
Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided. Upgrade to a touch-screen... http://www.sainsmart.com/sainsmart-3-2-tft-lcd-display-touch-panel-pcb-adapter-sd-slot-for-arduino-2560.html?___store=en&___store=en&gclid=CNDHk_3Kvr0CFSho7AodaksAEgBetter than the 2-bar LCD display... AMT logo friendly. No custom logo emblem needed ... saves more money. (Ok, not really, but it is cooler! lol.) ISAWHIM please email Josh@advancedminers.com so we can arrange the stuff for you. |
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Did you work for the Govt as a civilian was another question they asked, but it did not allow me to check both. I only see this helping everyone because your cases will be grouped with mine.
I noted my service on the FTC complaint as well. I figured it can only help if they are going to try to mediate something. Though I'm looking at going with the DIY kit to get it quicker, get a milk crate and find a way to mount it in there, do a dual PSU set up and and run an extension cord to get the one psu in another socket on another breaker. Get a fan to pull the heated air and expel it out a window. I just need to hear back from amt on this. You don't need to go that far, we're looking into the dual case for kit setup. And again a 1500Watt supply will work for all 5 modules. |
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I am order #958, the only thing I got so far from AMT is a bad attitude. All the solutions are just a mix match of parts or missing parts. Power supplies and cases no where in sight. The miners don't hash at the advertised speed unless you put them in turbo mode. This is why I am trying to go the refund route. If you try to complain they will rip your head off.
I filed with FTC and they also asked if I was a veteran when I filed and I said yes. I am also going to contact my veterans group to let them know what this wonderful American mining company is doing to me and the other veterans here.
AMT definitely need to ramp up their customer service. At this point, they're lack of responsiveness is going to lead to a lot of legal action. Hey com'n. we started picking up the phone again. Baby steps. |
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Good luck using server power supplies. They are expensive, and the cabling usually isn't very long.
They also have proprietary connections based on the brand you buy, so you have to do research.
On a side note: I think it's a fucking embarrassment that AMT is saying they are out of power supplies. If they ship any miner without case, PSU, whatever - then a refund should be made to cover the cost of those items.
Your not even a client, and again we banned you from purchasing AMT products. Also didn't you say it was impossible to get 1500 watt supply to power all 5 modules? |
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They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.
We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something. The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc.. I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption? I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue. Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided. Sounds good to me. If I like the performance and I see the issues smoothing out with production, I'd consider getting some extra boards if they are priced right and you you end up selling upgrade kits. Alyssa mentioned the upgrade kit you suggested, it seems viable in that aspect for guys that have a currently opted in for the kit. We're hoping our 4 chip board will be ready sometime next week for mass production, if it is, that board it will allow for much smaller and efficient case options, 1u/2u server cases. |
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They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.
We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something. The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc.. I mean at this point we are essentially just hooking up the wiring to the correct places and fashioning a housing of our choosing. Or am I incorrect in assumption? I mean things looks pretty intact in those pictures so I can put stuff together. It would be nice if there was some site support for the DIY kits where we could do a Q and A if there was an issue. Yes you would be just hooking up the the pcie cables to the boards. As well as 5v USB cable to the backplane and the motherboard adapter to the mainboard. Instructions will be provided. |
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am i right in presuming the "kit" of 5 cards is the 1.2t machine and it comes with lcd screen or is that integral part of pi.
Actually we weren't going to throw in the LCD screen. We were how ever looking for bulk HDMI cables. The idea of the kit is to get the techies their miners quick. As they know what to do with them, we'd assume they'd hook up their monitors to the pi. |
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Likely a dual 800 supply will cheap than 1500 The case is fucked because it can't natively support two power supplies in it. That's why buying a desktop PC case for this design was retarded. So was hoping it'd all run off of one power supply, and be expandable, to boot. The way I see it, it'd be better to have dual 750's or 1000watt PSU's - redundancy being the key here (not one power supply issue will take all boards offline). Shop around for "dual power supply cable" - these will let you connect two powersupplies to one motherboard (or switch). They are fairly cheap.  It's likely that 2 x 750/900w supplies will be cheaper and more popular than one big 1500-1800 watt unit anyway, thus less of supply/demand issue. I assume you just need to chain power cables switches of both turn on together so that all boards on the back-plane are powered in the chain at the same time otherwise no joy... I would like / prefer, 6 x board back plane with 2 power chained together option if it exists...? Some of 800-900w units are fairly small, I wonder if they can they fit in the rack case?!? Both inside, one out one in, both outside? We can fit it in the rack case, the problem with the 40 nordco cases we bought is that the internal hard drive sections (which pull out) stick in about 1-2 inches too far and it doesn't allow for fans on the back of our cage. We've take all the hard drive pull out sections to the cnc guy, he'll have his minions manually modify(cut down) each of the pullouts. Then we can ship the rack mounts. Naran, if you'd like we can go ahead and ship you these board/cages as is and get you the cases after we get them modified. |
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The case is fucked because it can't natively support two power supplies in it. That's why buying a desktop PC case for this design was retarded. So was hoping it'd all run off of one power supply, and be expandable, to boot. The way I see it, it'd be better to have dual 750's or 1000watt PSU's - redundancy being the key here (not one power supply issue will take all boards offline). Shop around for "dual power supply cable" - these will let you connect two powersupplies to one motherboard (or switch). They are fairly cheap. All 5 modules can run off one supply. The quality of the supply matters, as well as how you hook up the boards. Also the desktop case was not "retarded" as it allows for a larger exhaust fan, bay drive inserts, and the possibility of future upgrades depending on the board design. Will you be getting back to people who want to go the DIY route tonight? I'm just trying to figure out when to have my miners here by. Edits, I've got miners on the brain I meant PSUs. So will a 750 W run three of the cards smoothly or should I go up some wattage on one of the two PSUs? A 1000w will run three of the cards smoothly. 750 watt is cutting it too close as most power supplies are not to par and definitely not producing the output they say. It's usually 25% less than the supply claims to be. They sell PSU's based on their momentary laps of peak performances. "Look it hit 650Watts! Now we can sell it as a 650!! etc." Something quite similar to the mining industry actually. |
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They said anyone who filed a complaint they will not help. So a kit is not possible if you filed.
We didn't say that. We said that we just don't like clients that have filed a complaint. But to those that have filed a complaint, we can really send them a kit, because it does not qualify as the same product they ordered, therefore despite proof of shipment, they could continue with the complaint and say "AMT shipped me computer parts" or something. The only way we can ship kits to clients which have filed complaints is either via proof of retraction of that complaint or by signing a waiver stating that you agree to receive the kit instead of the full miner, that you are technically capable of working with PCB components/boards etc.. |
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so... AMT will ship you parts without PSU's and/or cases and leave the assembly to you. Further, they will not credit individuals for parts not shipped. secondly, they completely disregard an order queue and hint that people filing complaints will get their miner when AMT feels like it. All of you out their groveling for your "parts" and "DIY" kits have at it. Might I also suggest you try amazon.com for a little dignity.
Hey AMT I have filed a complaint with EVERY agency there is. I will not settle for anything other than a FULL refund at this point.
Craig I believe we shipped your miner today. When I get to assembly in the afternoon I'll see if I can pull your tracking number. |
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The case is fucked because it can't natively support two power supplies in it. That's why buying a desktop PC case for this design was retarded. So was hoping it'd all run off of one power supply, and be expandable, to boot. The way I see it, it'd be better to have dual 750's or 1000watt PSU's - redundancy being the key here (not one power supply issue will take all boards offline). Shop around for "dual power supply cable" - these will let you connect two powersupplies to one motherboard (or switch). They are fairly cheap. All 5 modules can run off one supply. The quality of the supply matters, as well as how you hook up the boards. Also the desktop case was not "retarded" as it allows for a larger exhaust fan, bay drive inserts, and the possibility of future upgrades depending on the board design. |
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Heck, I'd be tempted to pull the sinks and mount a cold-plate instead. Hmm...
