BTC isn't going up, it's FIAT that's going down! Every day your FIAT is worth a little less.
That's weird, I was under the impression that the same Bitcoin can buy 10 times more stuff than a few months before. Also weird that one USD doesn't buy me 10 less. Must be some FIAT manipulation by Bernanke or something.  OR Gold, Silver, stocks, real estate are inflating vs. Bitcoin too. Basically, only Bitcoin in this world is stable and all other assets fluctuate agaist it! Finally we see the truth! Glad you see the light my friend  ! Poor sarcasm detection xD |
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Sounds like a deal to me. |
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BigBlitz, I like how you try to say PrimeDice is cheating (you literally say you don't, but all your posts sound like you do).
It's funny, because even though you complained about lots of losses in a row (which is perfectly normal, seriously, go learn some statistics), you "forgot" to show us this as well:
470262 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 56.74
470259 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 77.87
470258 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 90.22
470255 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Lose 25.84
470253 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 93.17
470247 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 76.58
470244 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 81.03
470234 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 68.35
470232 3447d3c4a5 21 hours ago 50.5 2 0.01000000 Win 59.52
1 loss in 9 rolls. This game must be rigged so players win more.
Humans remember 7 bad moments for every 1 good moment. True story  |
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Quite Frankly had I have known that I would not have bet on PrimeDice.
I would have just stuck to coinroll.it
We are not saying Stunna cheated you (would still be very hard even if he wanted: he can't know when you withdraw. You can withdraw when you are winning and he cannot simply cheat to make customers always lose or it'll be evident ). TradeFortress only pointed out that Primedice system can be improved. More or less my exact point. I don't see why he'd constantly let people cash out 10+ Bitcoins if he could just take all their balance. And in extension, why would he then be rigging 0.1 bets? I really think Stunna needs to fix it up though ASAP, doubt is a VERY powerful thing  |
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I still think the easiest way to do this would to be simply allowing the user to choose a client seed AFTER being assigned a server seed. That also allows simple minds (Like myself heh) the ability to easily understand & comprehend the concept. The whole JS assigning a client seed transcends me lol
It doesn't matter what seed you choose. As long as the server does not know it, it's OK. I'm still waiting on someone with more knowledge to explain how CoinRoll's use of nonces make it impossible for the server to know what the next roll is going to be. Easy. It uses [txid] + nonce. The TXID is supplied by the player. The server seed is updated once a day, and is global. So while the server *can* know next results in advance, it cannot change it after knowing the results (see Provably Fair rule #3). Secrets has being generated until 2023, so Coinroll.it is provably fair. Oh I get ya now. Fair enough. |
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Quite Frankly had I have known that I would not have bet on PrimeDice.
I would have just stuck to coinroll.it
I'm still waiting on someone with more knowledge to explain how CoinRoll's use of nonces make it impossible for the server to know what the next roll is going to be. |
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I still think the easiest way to do this would to be simply allowing the user to choose a client seed AFTER being assigned a server seed. That also allows simple minds (Like myself heh) the ability to easily understand & comprehend the concept. The whole JS assigning a client seed transcends me lol
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me.  1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom wait, what, PREPARED? It's PRE_ROLLED? are you fucking joking me? I've lost over 10BTC on this site and it's not mentioned anywhere it's pre rolled?! i wouldn't say its 'PRE-ROLLED' to be exact, but this is what bugs me a bit Server seed for next roll:
ee69b2a8d6dec664ee0d1fc7e I'll stick to coinroll for now. hmac_sha512(secret, lastdeposittxid:nonce) seems more legit Correct me if I'm wrong, but coinroll knows the secret, knows the last deposit ID, what's stopping them from assigning a nonce that gives them a win? (Shoot me down if I'm missing a vital concept) |
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To make it really provably fair.
But wouldn't the server still know the client seed beforehand? I'd think you would have to allow the user/client to be the one to enter it? |
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Currently, the server knows the result if the user does not change the client seed. As something like 99% of users don't even know you can do that, this game is not provably fair. Not saying that it's cheating, but it's not provably fair.
It would literally take 1 line of code. Not securely random, but random enough as the client seed:
var clientSeed = Math.random();
1 line of code to fix or to cheat? |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom wait, what, PREPARED? It's PRE_ROLLED? are you fucking joking me? I've lost over 10BTC on this site and it's not mentioned anywhere it's pre rolled?! Bigbitz, what's your PrimeDice name? I wanna see this lol |
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Another 9 losses out of 10. I'm beginning to think PrimeDice has it in for me. 1 minute ago 50.5 2 0.30000000 Lose 48.33
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.21915206 Lose 44.71
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Win 64.61
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 45.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 23.78
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 5.85
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 32.74
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 40.24
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 46.72
2 minutes ago 50.5 2 0.10000000 Lose 36.38
this is why i preferred with coinroll due to this reason prepared server-roll seed = doom Without being too 'sock puppet' like, I believe that's a pretty unfair assumption. You constantly see people cashing out 1 - 20 Bitcoins and when you look at their previous bets & profit, it's generally substantial. I really really doubt Stunna would be manipulating rolls over 0.1. You can also change your client seed quite easily, if you look at my previous rolls I change my client seed every time just so I have nothing to b***h about when I lose  It takes a few seconds each time. They're also working on making it easier, Idk what's taking so long though tbh. |
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Ok. I think I'm number 11, if your Leaderboard only displays the top 10. I got another 0.1 to play with. hehehe.. Will try to make it last longer this time by dividing my starting bet by 10, (or add another zero after the decimal point.)
I think leader board is off total wagered not Prime Points |
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Very slick & simple to understand; love it!
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How many Bitcoins have you had bet on you since launch?
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The option containing dirty fiat, obviously  |
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I started with 0.2 or thereabouts. I was willing to lose it. So ... ... but it still sucks because I saw it go to 0.4, then to 0.8... Then 1.5, then I actually got to 2.0. Then the 1% House Edge kicked in.
I would venture a guess most of us wouldn't notice the difference if the house edge was 0%. It is the variance and losing streaks that usually get you. Are you guys doing the 10x momentous profits with martingale or something else? Yeh, I don't think I've ever even noticed rolling in the range which is in the houses favour (50 - 50.5 or thereabouts depending on the roll over game). Then again, I'm sure I have without noticing lol |
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Great to see! Hopefully a mod can move this to a more productive forum for you, as I'm positive many UK Bitcoiners would love to go.
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It's a shame when you don't reach your goals, eh |
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