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641  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dangerous chasing losses on: October 26, 2023, 10:58:37 AM
I’m not a regular gambler nor an addicted gambler but I recently experienced a terrible chasing loss that start with small amount. I’m on a day off on my job right now due to my minor flu. My feeling got better while I don’t have things to do on my work dormitory so I decided to just gamble for fun only.

My game start by just betting minimum bet on a blackjack table with my initial deposit of 85$ which is my signature campaign earning last week. I lose my initial bank roll with just few bets on consistent losses. I decided to deposit again but this time with higher bankroll which is 250$. I bet twice the minimum bet this time since my bankroll is higher, the result is much terrible loss.

Lastly, I deposit 1800$ to have a better bankroll again, This time I’m betting like a high roller and lucky manage to recover my losses and bag 150$ profit.

Conclusion: I will never gamble again when I’m bored or chase loss small amount. With this exhilarating experience. I think I will stop gambling for a long time and reflec on what dumb thing I do today.

Even though you experience defeat in gambling, I think you are a very lucky person to be able to realize this, because there are many people out there who continue to chase losses but are unable to realize the losses they have experienced and the stupid problem is that they continue playing and continue to ignore other people. people around him tried to wake him up.

True, I think there is very little chance for gamblers who have been overcome by emotions because of the many defeats to realize the mistakes they have made in. It's not uncommon anymore and maybe now we find quite a lot of gamblers who are very ambitious in gambling, like you said they continue to gamble with the intention of getting a win or even those who have won still can't stop because they expect a much higher win there and this is the real addiction cycle in my opinion where whatever you get you will never be satisfied and always want more than what has been obtained. Basically it is quite difficult to be able to realize that you or they have gone too far in gambling, none other than that because their mindset is very difficult to control and all there is is just wanting to continue gambling despite the fact that the final result will lose more often than win, and it is also useless that basically people who are already addicted will be very difficult to tell or remind through some advice from others.


If you stop gambling, you can feel better and you will feel able to overcome the urge to gamble. why not, you decide to stop gambling. And to make it easier for you to stop gambling, if you have an environment where people gamble every day, leave that environment for a while because this is the factor that often makes someone lose the determination to stop gambling.

Anyone who can finally stop doing this activity or just reduce it in my opinion is good enough and this is the best thing to do. I am sure that anyone will never be comfortable with all the pressure resulting from losing in gambling, of course if indeed your environment is active in gambling then there is no other way to get out of the addiction zone unless you are able to avoid the bad environment, whatever we can do to stop gambling as long as our intentions are strong and firm.
642  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: October 26, 2023, 10:25:31 AM
But I don't think it will always be like that either, meaning that not everyone when they see the calculation of the amount of deposits and withdrawals will become emotional and even worse in gambling, and I think what is more effective is that in this way they will find out that they have gone very far in gambling by seeing that the number of defeats is much higher, and also in my opinion this will be able to make them realize that this is really gambling that only relies on luck, and also besides that they might change their mindset for the better and not too much.
Indeed, not everyone will become emotional when they see the comparison between deposit and withdrawal amounts because it depends on a person's perspective, especially if that person makes the notes just to find out how much money has been used for gambling. And if they realize this month they have deposited more than the previous month, they really need to reduce it and see how their finances stand. It could be that having a gambling record can make him aware of staying within his limits so that he doesn't gamble excessively and can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.

Well more precisely like that maybe, we just find a middle ground and as you said whether or not they are emotional in this case really depends on how each person's point of view is, as we discussed above there are those who are emotional when they see the calculation records due to the number of dominating defeats that make them finally more ambitious in gambling with the intention of revenge and there are also those who think with common sense that this is gambling which as I said before it is only about whether or not someone is lucky in their gambling journey, so both of these things can really happen to two human characters. What I have in mind is that maybe by calculating all the amounts they spend it is possible to make them realize and finally reduce their gambling. Especially if their finances are not good or in the sense that their income is only enough to support their lives, it is very possible to be able to think healthily and reduce all gambling activities.

I think this is indeed a pretty good laternative for every gambler to do, whether it's those who are already addicted or for those who think gambling is normal. It's like a business where management is very important, so in this way maybe I think as I said above and what you said, the chances are quite high that they will think that they will reduce their gambling budget and also of course they will apply more firm self-control when gambling. Basically prevention is always going to be better than cure.
Having a record of his gambling journey can keep him from exceeding his limits so he won't try to spend more money just to gamble. But there are also people who don't keep notes about their gambling because they think they can still care for themselves while gambling and don't overdo it. They can still gamble sufficiently and have a budget for gambling and do not exceed the budget for gambling. And yes, prevention will always be better than cure.

Although this alternative is quite good but everything will return to their respective awareness, because it is useless if they take notes but do not find any awareness to get better. Management is one of the most important things in any field or profession or even in our real life, we must be able to make everything run in balance using this management. Well it is true that there are also those who do not record like this at all, as you said it is because they still feel that their gambling is still manageable or maybe they feel that they have not lost too much money, it is also quite good as long as what they say is not just a feeling but in accordance with reality.
643  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 25, 2023, 01:26:04 PM


Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1717113419696902352

Breaking News!

Sandro Tonali has been banned from playing for 10 months due to his gambling scandal and this will certainly be very detrimental to Newcastle because his role is really needed to strengthen the midfield this season. Even though Newcastle are in their best performance, they have lost key players who were brought in from Milan last summer. On the other hand, it is possible that Sandro Tonali will get an additional month during his ban for the rehabilitation process. I think what Sandro Tonali has done can be a lesson for other players not to carry out similar activities and if this is the case, of course the club will be the one who suffers the most.
Newcastle will suffered a little bit without the presence of Sandro Tonali. However Eddie Howe will make replacement for Tonali in forthcoming games this season. He's been issued a 10 months ban and will be excluded from the Magpies squad and also Italy. This is a serious case and this incident have 80% probability of reducing the performance of Sandro Tonali. It will served as a warnings to others who are into gambling and yet to get caught and the ones that are planning to enter. I'm not going to tender blames to anyone, Sandro Tonali brought this drastic punishment upon himself, he knows the rules and he still go ahead to break them.

Of course this Sandro Tonali problem will be very detrimental to Newcastle because on the other hand he is a midfielder who has a considerable contribution in every match which makes him difficult to replace. 10 months is a very long time and this incident provides a very big task for Eddie Howe, honestly I don't know what steps the coach will take to keep his squad balanced in terms of performance. And besides that I also heard that in this case not only involved Sandro Tonali but there was one of his other colleagues and if I'm not mistaken, Nicolo Fagioli from Juventus who was reportedly initially invited by Sandro Tonali. I heard that in terms of punishment Fagioli was much lower and was only sentenced for 7 months to be absent from football.

True, lately I have seen quite a lot of cases that have occurred in several leagues, not just in the EPL and of course this can be an example for those players who, for example, are still gambling but have not been caught then it is better for them to stop immediately, because it is better to prevent than to cure before it is too late.
644  Economy / Economics / Re: What does being rich mean in your perspective? on: October 25, 2023, 01:01:17 PM
Simply that you don't stop doing anything you would like to do because of lack of money. Keep in mind that this is relative, because if you have aspirations like buying an island or a yacht and filling it with models to accompany you, it will cost you much more to feel rich than if you have more mundane aspirations. Things like there are a few days left until everyone gets paid and if you feel like buying clothes, filling up the tank and inviting your girlfriend to dinner can be part of that feeling of wealth.

Of course everyone will have their own sensation in terms of satisfaction, and they will do something that will give them the sensation to confirm that they are rich people, as you said and maybe there are some of them who will spend large amounts of money to buy islands or yachts, none other than that they do just to confirm and admit to themselves and also maybe to others that they are not ordinary people.

The point is that the feeling will come back to each individual's high or low satisfaction, because after all there are also many who are rich but live quite simply and not excessively. This is quite related to the pride that exists in that person too, and if they are one of those people who are always simple in life even though they are rich then maybe they will only confirm to themselves about the wealth they have, because real wealth does not always have to be known by many people.
645  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: October 25, 2023, 12:38:42 PM
I think most gamblers will never record the history of the results of their gambling and when they want to see it they might just look at the casino betting statistics history feature.
Whether it is gamblers who are just having fun or those who are looking for profit will not do it.
In fact some gamblers feel regret when looking at their betting history because they know how much they have lost so far.

If there is maybe just history of betting on the same day or time.
Because at the same time they will calculate the amount of losses and wins to be able to think and take what steps to take whether they are still able to continue or not.
That is only done by professional gamblers as you have said.
Looking at the history of gambling results can trigger our emotions to become irregular because we will be sad if we see the many losses we have experienced, especially if we also see the comparison between deposits and withdrawals. It turns out that the deposits are greater than the withdrawals. I don't have records of my gambling games because I don't need them and until now, I think I can still handle my gambling well even though I also experience losses like other gamblers.

But I don't think it will always be like that either, meaning that not everyone when they see the calculation of the amount of deposits and withdrawals will become emotional and even worse in gambling, and I think what is more effective is that in this way they will find out that they have gone very far in gambling by seeing that the number of defeats is much higher, and also in my opinion this will be able to make them realize that this is really gambling that only relies on luck, and also besides that they might change their mindset for the better and not too much.

If people who record the history of their gambling results can reduce their gambling activities and be stricter in how they use their money, that will be good for them because at least it can help them control their money. And they can also avoid losing a lot of money and can avoid gambling addiction.

I think this is indeed a pretty good laternative for every gambler to do, whether it's those who are already addicted or for those who think gambling is normal. It's like a business where management is very important, so in this way maybe I think as I said above and what you said, the chances are quite high that they will think that they will reduce their gambling budget and also of course they will apply more firm self-control when gambling. Basically prevention is always going to be better than cure.
646  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 24, 2023, 01:35:10 PM
Congratulations to Tottenham who have managed to maintain their performance throughout this season. Hopefully we can provide maximum results at the end of the season. However, because this is quite a long journey and in the Premier League, winning the trophy will not be that easy. Tough competitors such as Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool are inevitable. Ange Postecoglou must remain focused on bringing this club to achieve its dreams. Tottenham should not feel like this achievement is over, because slipping up like Arsenal last season is very painful.
EPL is a difficult league for average and elite teams. Angelos Postecoglou is leading Tottenham Hotspur on a path to glory this season, the supporters are patient with him and keen on achieving what they all craved for which is winning EPL title this season. However, I'm yet to give out my credits to Spurs because they're yet to face the main rival this season, winning Manchester united was easy and having a draw tie with Arsenal was considerably. They will face Manchester City and Chelsea, then we will decide if they're fully competent to lead or they will drop halfway.

Of course because the competition in the EPL is much more difficult and prestigious than some other leagues. Honestly, I really did not expect that Tottenham could get to this point, their improvement was extraordinary this season, as we know that Tottenham became one of the teams that really wanted the trophy at the end of the season but it was very difficult for them and also until many assumed that Tottenham was like getting a curse, the doubts of most people have now been indirectly broken and in my opinion with this achievement alone Postecouglou has succeeded in proving that his squad is able to rise to dominate the top of the standings.

Oh yes I think initially this season Tottenham will be even worse, because as we know one of their scoring machines, Harry Kane, has left, and usually in every match in the last few seasons they always depend on this player in getting the full three points at the end of the match, but finally in the end Kane really decided to leave and prefer to join Bayern Munich, the defending Bundesliga title. If only Kane was still in the EPL with his proud squad then it is very likely that he would feel the trophy he always expected throughout the season with the condition of Tottenham which is now surprising the eye. Yes Chelsea and Manchester City will be their opponents, to fight Chelsea maybe it's quite easy with their current form and the match with Manchester City maybe it will be quite difficult, but certainly I hope Tottenham will be able to get through these two matches and I wonder if they will be able to get the full three points when faced with their rivals at the end of the season, Arsenal.
647  Economy / Economics / Re: What does being rich mean in your perspective? on: October 24, 2023, 01:11:10 PM
It's one of question which differs from person to person. How do you define richness?
To be rich is the ability to provide all the basic needs of life. Furthermore, it is a life without debt, sickness and fear. It is freedom from greed because you are contended with what you have. Criminals are not rich regardless of how much they own because they have no peace.   
       
Yes in general it is like that, where wealth is our better living conditions than before, not feeling afraid in terms of basic needs in the long run, all needs will be easily met because we have above-average financial strength. For the problem of debt I agree with that, most of the time there is no pressure that we or they will feel the impact of debt itself, but for the problem of disease in my opinion is not included here, the disease will not see who the person is and whether the person is rich or not, still the disease is very likely to attack, this is more on a healthy lifestyle. Because it is not uncommon for us to see many rich people who turn out that one of the families has a fairly severe illness, so this is more about managing a healthy lifestyle even though basically they are sufficient for medical problems.

It is clearly different from those criminals in terms of finance, logically if they are rich people who are well-off then there is no way they will commit crimes such as theft and so on, one of their reasons in general is usually to fulfill their personal needs, they do it because they feel unable to change their own lives through the process as in general.
648  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not keeping records makes me a bad gambler? on: October 24, 2023, 12:31:00 PM
I don't think you can be called a bad gambler if you don't record your losses and wins here.
If it's just entertainment for you, you don't need to record it. I also don't record my gambling losses and wins because for me I don't need to record them because I'm not good at gambling either and I can only see the money I lose growing. If you enjoy it and control yourself when it comes to gambling, I don't think there is a problem. I think that's only for serious gamblers and professionals who keep track of their winnings and losses so they know if what they've been doing lately is good.

It can be said that it is bad and it can also be said that it is not bad, and in my opinion it goes back to how they respond to gambling, if indeed they gamble with just looking for entertainment and fun then I agree with you, it doesn't matter if and not record and calculate all the money lost and won. But if they come with the purpose of earning income like those who are already addicted then I think this calculation record is very important, this will be very useful to help you realize that the money you have spent is too big and it's time for you to stop and rest so that the situation does not get worse.

I think that even if you are firm in your own mind in gambling which means gambling just for fun I think there is nothing wrong if you occasionally do a calculation on the amount of your losses, because the situation is always difficult to guess, especially if you are very busy gambling then you can unconsciously continue to pour your money into the casino because you want the fun to continue even though it is not the victory that you prioritize. So in these two conditions I think the calculation can still be said to be quite important.
649  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 23, 2023, 03:20:08 PM
Yeah, that's true and it's actually one of the few things that is inevitable, whether we like it or not , a certain number of Bitcoin owners are actually going to end up leaving this world with their key remaining unknown to anyone, even their love one, but I feel this is supposed to be a matter of who's going fall under this category, well I know for sure after all this exposure to this much knowledge, I will definitely find a way to let my love ones or even my spouse know about the my holdings or if that's too wild, I think setting up a means of which they can actually get hold of my key and Bitcoin when mr.death eventually comes knocking.


Do you know what most people who are holding bitcoin are doing or will most probably do? All of them know that they will transfer their private keys to their loved ones when they are near to death but no one will let the keys be transferred ahead of time. Since the death time of everyone is unknown, there may be many who die because of an accident or on the spot death and they would not even get the time to give the private keys to their remaining.

Since bitcoin is very new and only the first generation is using it, so we do not come across such cases but after more than 10 to 20 years, a lot of bitcoins will be lost as the current holders of bitcoin wouldn't be alive and they have not transferred the wealth to their near and dear ones.

Agree with you this makes perfect sense and will probably be one of the problems of every bitcoin holder, we know that we will not live forever in the world, while something in the future is always unpredictable, one of which anyone will never know when they will die, while on the other hand they have promised themselves that one day they have to transfer the key to someone special in their life such as their own wife. Basically the facts that will happen will not always match what we plan, okay maybe they plan that they have to give the key near the time of death, but it will not always be like that, maybe you think that you will die while in the hospital in the treatment phase and at that time you will whisper your bitcoin secret key to your wife, this plan looks very neat. On the other hand, you will never know under what circumstances you will die, it is possible and very likely that you will die in an accident or any circumstances that do not allow you to get time to share the secret key with others, this makes perfect sense.

As you said "Many bitcoins will be lost because the holder is no longer alive" And in my opinion one of the alternatives that can be done is that I will give the secret key to my wife from now on, no problem and I have indeed said a very important short message to her, none other than this as an action to minimize things that cannot be avoided such as death. I will write the private key on a piece of paper and keep it in the most secure place along with telling my wife that if one day I die then open the box, it is an inheritance from me for our children someday.
650  Economy / Economics / Re: Help me analyze the feasibility of this business idea on: October 23, 2023, 09:33:00 AM
I don't think it's wise to say that a teacher's job is not difficult because a teacher is expected to be a role model for his or her students and that's not easy, but I might agree that teaching is a labor-intensive job that requires more muscle.
It goes back to our desires n intentions, whether we want to have more than one job or not. Because many people I see are not incapable but don't want to be more tired after doing their main job.
We need to get ahead and one of the ways we can do that is by putting aside laziness for as long as we can.
Every job is difficult, it is just that what it is required from us is different, and without a doubt the job of a teacher can be a very difficult job, especially for those persons that have a lot of empathy and do not like to see their students failing, and they may go out of their way to help them.

In my case this is not really a job that I would enjoy doing it, as there are some things that are very obvious to me and if others do not see it I do not take the time to explain to them why I think the way I do, a massive flaw on a teacher.
As many people say, Being a Teacher is one of the hardest job and a passion at the same time because they are the one who teaches us, starting in our basic level of education up to a master's/doctoral degree. Actually, there's no easy job, people may find it easy because they've enjoyed and loved what they are doing but everything requires effort and lots of hard work. OP is doing good in science and math which I think is suitable for being a Teacher or professor but I don't know if that profession in his country is well compensated or not.

It's true what you said, being a teacher is not easy because it requires extensive knowledge, but if he is good at math and ready to teach as a math teacher there is nothing wrong with trying it, but pay attention to the other side if you are not good at math, of course there will be questions raised by students regarding formulas that they cannot understand. but in my opinion it's better to try it first with confidence that he can do it well.

But in my opinion it's better to focus on deepening the world of the graphic field si, because judging from the development of technology now the graphic field dominates technology because as far as I know graphics have a high value with its own quality. it's okay to do both if he can run it well, he has to manage his time so that there is no clash between his main job and side jobs.
651  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: October 23, 2023, 09:10:01 AM
Do not use gambling as your source of income, many people tried to do this and it doesn't work out well, find a work and get paid then try learning a skill to increase your income, this is a normal way for people to live until they are capable of investing their money, gambling is what you should think last if you don't have a job.
This is what we must avoid when we are gambling and we should get rid of that thought before we gamble immediately. We cannot make gambling a source of income, especially if we often experience loss.
We should use gambling as entertainment to avoid more losses.
It may be difficult but if we don't try, we won't be able to do it.
And it's better to invest the money in other things that have more potential to provide profits, especially investing the money in bitcoin.
And when we gamble, we have to be really responsible in gambling so that we don't gamble excessively.

Yes, they should be, they have to eliminate the principle of gambling as the main income with the aim of getting rich quickly, they have to think about other more important things because they themselves have their own responsibilities for themselves or their families who have to live on a daily basis related to their basic needs, I'm sure many of them are clear about the losses they always get and they feel, but strangely they still put great hopes on gambling, especially slot gambling, hoping to restore the losses they have felt.

True to what you said, it is difficult but they will never succeed if they don't do it and also in my opinion it's useless if they do something to stop while in their hearts there is still a desire to gamble. So without sure awareness they will not be able to stop completely from gambling, only a few people can stop and stay away from gambling and successfully leave gambling because they realize gambling has made a lot of losses for them.
652  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tips on staying responsible. on: October 22, 2023, 07:28:40 AM
You need self-discipline here, control your emotions, and have a good mind set. Set a limitation on your gambling so that somehow you don't chase after your loss because that loss is really what you set aside for gambling.
The others because they are chasing what they lost in gambling, they will bet more money to recover what they lost, and that was wrong for me. Just think that the money you lost is the payment for that entertainment.
So you won't regret it anymore

Exactly, discipline, self-control, the right mindset and also responsibility are the basic things they must have, not only them but maybe for all gamblers must have all these things, none other than this is also for their own good because it is quite clear that anyone who is too serious in terms of expecting victory then they will enter the cycle of addiction and of course they will spin with the name of defeat. I'm sure anyone doesn't want to lose a lot of money, so therefore we must really think about the risks that are there, not just thinking about the chances of winning, but more certainly and it has been proven that you will experience more losses than clear wins that will come occasionally.

They should really think that gambling is only for fun, it should not be more than that, let alone instill greed, it is not recommended, unless you really want to suffer large losses like the downturn that many other people experience who have too much hope. If you can't get a win today, it means you're just unlucky, and don't get emotional by thinking about chasing back the win, it's just about luck, buddy, no matter how small the budget you bring if you're lucky then you can win.
653  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: October 22, 2023, 06:31:49 AM

One of the possible ways to stop gambling addiction is to seek help from the professionals. They know how to assess and what kind of therapy they should do to make it possible.. It's a step by step assessment and it really takes time. by that, A gambler addict must help their self too. Having strong support from a family and friends is highly encourage and little by little, gambler must avoid anything related to any gambling activities. I know someone who's addicted in gambling and I saw how miserable his life is, To the point that there's nothing left in his pocket and has a lot of pending loans in banks and relatives. he didn't realize all the wrongdoings until his family left him because he didn't want to change for a better. I always advise that gambling is okay as long as you're a responsible in your actions.

Yes that's a pretty good alternative that they can do, I also hear advice like that quite often, which is that they should contact or ask for help from professionals to help overcome their addiction problems. That's pretty good because as we know those who are professionals almost fully know about all the conditions that are there and of course most likely they professionals will know what the gambling addict should do if they want to get out of addiction, they can assess at what level the person is addicted and also with that they will be able to provide solutions according to what is needed. Although this alternative is quite good but in my opinion this cannot be completely successful but maybe it will only provide opportunities, because of course it depends on those who are already addicted themselves in responding to it. If they really want to get out of the addiction zone then I'm sure they will be able to change their mindset in gambling by considering all the advice that comes in and also some help from professionals.

True, this step does take time and for certain when they can stop completely it depends on themselves, of course they must be able to help themselves. It's quite sad to hear the story of your friend, thank goodness if indeed now he can change, it must experience bitter things first to realize.
654  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting on: October 22, 2023, 02:41:01 AM
Call yourself to order whenever you're gambling and having nothing to tell concerning your experience in what you do, have a time to run a check on the kind of gambling lifestyle you've had in couple of times, access yourself on a grade level to see if you're proud about what you're doing or not, also check if there's need for an improvement to be implemented, consider the benefits it has served you in many ways and that which you may have lost at the same cause and weigh them all together, if you think you're going too far already, then try to apply wisdom and gamble moderately.
That's the point of doing self-reflection, especially after you've been gambling for some time. This is so that you can see the benefits of gambling and decide to keep or stop gambling. And if you don't find any benefits from gambling, you can decide to stop gambling. But if you find pleasure in gambling and can still control yourself, maybe you can still gamble but always control yourself in gambling so that you don't cross your limits. This will help you check whether you can still gamble while having fun or will just be greedy because you want more wins.

That's a good idea, I agree with that gamblers or people who are addicted to gambling should do self-reflection in order to have a good mindset. Because most people who gamble will fall deeper and become fatally addicted so that they don't realize what they are doing has crossed the line, with self-reflection maybe this will help the mindset that used to only think about the victory from gambling to think about the negative side of gambling, but it is difficult for people who will do things like this, because if new people gamble or say beginners and they lose greatness will feel a sense of wonder that will make them become addicted to gambling and go deeper into the world of gambling.

In addition to self-reflection, maybe they can do a little consultation from people who understand gambling as long as they give the right direction instead of inviting them to continue gambling with the belief that it will make them rich in a short and fast time. It all depends on themselves if they can control themselves well and have a positive mindset they will not be addicted to gambling. So by controlling themselves maybe they will be able to limit their gambling.
655  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. on: October 21, 2023, 01:58:26 PM
Very few people can gamble just like other games and for those who have experienced gambling addiction, of course they have various reasons not to stop gambling and what can make them stop gambling, I think they must have other activities that make them not have opportunity to gamble.
If few people can gamble, they should know that they should not rely on gambling to make money. But in reality, many people still rely on gambling because they see that some can make money. That keeps them returning to gambling and forgetting that gambling is not a place to make money. If they keep doing it, they will never be able to stop because their mindset will still be like that and later, they will experience more defeats.

If this happens, they will not be able to stop and will instead experience a gambling addiction. They will be like people who continue gambling even though they have lost. They will not realize that gambling is entertainment and will still try to make money from gambling.

But the reality is reversed, the number of people who play gambling is not small but many throughout the world, and the number continues to increase, none other than that because they carry the wrong mindset as you said, and also not a few gamblers who depend on gambling by expecting multiple profits. By continuing to play to double the money, of course this is the wrong mindset, right you say gambling is not a place to make money. This kind of thing should be avoided when playing gambling will certainly not always provide benefits until all the money you have runs out.

Yes, it is true that for an addict even though they always lose they will continue to play in various ways to be able to return to gambling for a victory that is completely uncertain, without realizing they are experiencing the bad effects of gambling, namely addiction so that they sacrifice everything in order to return to gambling.
656  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 21, 2023, 01:26:54 PM
José Mourinho is getting near to Saudi Arabian more than any time. Since he couldn't have a good performance in Roma there's the possibility for this famous coach to lose his job in Serie A and since some Saudi team wanted to hire this coach even during the last summer. Now there is a higher possibility for us to see José Mourinho in the Saudi League.
If Mourinho receives a tempting offer from a Saudi Pro League club, I cannot even begin to express my disappointment if he does not choose to join. Mourinho shall have stopped to waste his time in the serie a club. Mourinho shall not be blamed here but as roma management must be blamed for its stingy habit in spending money to strengthen its squad. Roma has been giving mourinho a burden by planned for the club to win the trophy but the club was unwilling to spend money as per what requested by mourinho.

As roma will never able to win scudetto or any prestigious trophies forever if the club is still so stingy. I knew that if roma is in financial trouble but it can at least try to buy one or two good players.
Roma was signing lukaku as a loan from chelsea. I don't even know what's the future of roma after mourinho and lukaku will be leaving from there together. Roma may also perform even worst than this time.

José Mourinho has made a statement that he will definitely take this opportunity, for the problem of when he will leave it is still no clearer news, but certainly he has said that he will still go to Saudi Arabia to start his new career. And I hope that it really happens, no matter sooner or later but certainly his departure is eagerly awaited by some people including me and maybe you. True, I don't understand this club that has management like Roma, they want to get progress and development on their team significantly but they don't want to spend money that is nothing but for the allocation of the interests of the club as well, which means José Mourinho cannot maximize some actions according to his plans because it is hindered by this financial problem. I hope the club management and José Mourinho can talk about this, because I think this can be considered if in the end José Mourinho still stays there.

As we know money can be the basis of a club's success because of course they buy all the players who are on the hunt list using money in the hope that they will be able to improve the club's performance, and if there is a club that is stingy in spending money for the allocation of the club's own interests then obviously they will find it difficult to develop and of course the coach's plans will also be hindered. But yes, it seems that José Mourinho must be concerned with himself by immediately taking the opportunity to go to Arabia.
657  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: October 21, 2023, 12:22:40 PM
~~~ but at the time there is nothing they can do to recover the money they have lost so far.

This is the main reason why most gamblers end up losing more than they can afford. They have this emotional drive that makes them believe they won't allow themselves to lose, so they keep chasing their losses until they are in the profit zone. Unfortunately, they fail to realize that the gambling house always has its edge. This kind of behavior leaves them playing without a clear direction, and they'll never come out ahead in the long run. Gradually, their losses pile up, and they only realize it when they've depleted their bankroll to the point where they can't continue gambling. It's a typical scenario and happens all too often among irresponsible gamblers.

When you are gambling for the sake of vengeance then you won't go any far in getting winning because you have anger on your mind and everything you do will mostly work against you especially because you won't take the right decision but you will be focused to get back the loses you have recorded. If you have a winning that is substantial, it is better to run with it at the moment and try to win more next time than to have that feeling you that you are recovering your loses. Take every game as a new and unique game and opportunity , not looking back to win back loses.

Anything that is based on emotion and greed will always end up worse that even beyond your expectations, like those who come to gambling with the intention of revenge to seek victory which is nothing but to restore the defeat in the previous time, instead of getting the victory as they expected but what happened was well lose again and continue to lose, that's always what happens at the end of the round when they are too ambitious in gambling and bring the wrong mindset. I'm not saying you can't get a win in 10x tries but you will be able to get just one win in 10x tries, is that worth the amount of your 9x losses? obviously not, and that's the fact, the more you try the more defeat will dominate.

That's right, if we've got a win, which you feel is pretty good then it's better to just pull it, don't care about any opportunities that you always think will be better, when in fact it's nothing more than a temptation for you to keep playing and lose everything. Basically, if you don't know when to stop then you're agreeing with the statement "you'll keep losing".
658  Economy / Economics / Re: Young people needs productive mindset to be happy in life on: October 20, 2023, 01:59:39 PM
Things has really changed unlike before when a graduate is coming out from the university their are job opportunities around the corners, people don't even stress themselves to acquire skills as an alternative just in case they don't get a job. Getting a job as a graduate some years back was a thing never to argue about or think about.  In this recent time things have really changed, expecting so much from the government as a graduate can lead people into serious problems.  The life we live now is so unpredictable, no one can be sure of practicing their desired career from what they have learnt in school.

I think if people really want to be happy in life, expecially undergraduates and young graduate they should learn not to give all expectations of having living job from the government.  If people create the mindset of being creative and productive in this era they will live a more happy life than putting all expectations of getting a dream job from the government.  A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.
This is one of the most difficult times for young people, when you graduate from university and start to think about what to do next. Almost no one has work experience in their specialty, and without experience they don’t want to hire you, starting your own business is just as difficult because there is no start-up capital.

Only a few will be able to implement what you write about, and this will be possible with the presence of some connections, because only the right mindset without specific actions will not be enough.

Yes that's right, when they graduate from university of course it doesn't mean they are free but they will start a real life, when graduating from university of course there will be many things that must be faced, one of which is looking for work as in general people who have just graduated from university who will look for work, and have their own income but all is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand.

Maybe most of them will find it difficult to find a job after graduating from university but that's the truth, because everything needs a process and struggle, If indeed they can't get a job at least they open a small business while waiting for a more decent job, If they don't have the capital to open a business they can just borrow from agents or banks. This is indeed risky but what's the harm in trying instead of staying silent waiting for a decent job that who knows when it will come, to open a business of course needs capital, and by borrowing it might help but they have to make sure the business they will run is good in terms of income and must be profitable for themselves because there are loan responsibilities that they must repay. So everything has a way if indeed they have a good mindset that can think about the future for themselves.
659  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or keep playing? on: October 20, 2023, 09:00:01 AM

It seems one thing is common between you and me, we lose our bankroll at the end of the day. For me gambling is fun and a way to escape the boring time I have. I don't mind losing but when I lose too much then I give a break.

If we don't lose then all these gambling business will be bankrupt LOL

Having the right kind of emotion takes you through the awareness that gambling is luck base and so you don't need to depend on it all day for finance which is why most gamblers find themselves struggling with it, they want to recover their losses by all means but that is not going to happen because in gambling you lose more than you gain and this is the right mentality.

Also as an old time gambler, you should know when to walk away if your loses are becoming excess. It is the newbies that are suppose to generate money for the casinos at least because of their lack of experience until they are also technically equipped for it.

Agree to your statement, basically to sum it up a little bit that when we gamble we have to know when to go home, know when to come and also when to go home, it's better than you keep gambling with vague expectations, instead of being able to realize those expectations but the fact that always happens is that you always lose, it always happens and with that I think you should be able to think and consider why this always happens. I hope you can get the answer from your healthy brain and mind, which is really about luck, so there is no point if you always come with the intention of winning or to recover from previous losses.

The chances of luck or defeat will not care about whether you are an old or new gambler, both things will always come to you especially defeat, and for the difference between these two gamblers maybe for those who are old or experienced will know better how to minimize losses, none other than because they already know about the various conditions that are there, so maybe when the possibility of defeat comes then they are not thinking about defeat but more focused on minimizing losses, for example they will take a break first and continue at a later time. And as you said, it is usually the beginners who will be the target of the casino.
660  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don’t push playing more on: October 19, 2023, 03:19:34 PM
However, they really need to control themselves and have a clear budget before gambling so they will not fall into gambling addiction. If gamblers could have those things, they would not be addicted to gambling and would use gambling as they should because they realize that gambling is just entertainment.

It may be true that some gamblers do not have a clear budget so they prefer to spend their money only on gambling but if this continues of course they will become addicted to gambling and continue to do so without caring about other things and will have a bad impact on themselves with curiosity, selfishness, and greed that arises in themselves. In fact, in my opinion, at a sufficient age we must have our own needs even though we cannot earn our own income yet.

This requires continuous practice because we have our weakest moments as humans. And when we are weak, that's when we can be tempted. But the temptation will not increase because we can immediately remember that this is gambling and we should not just follow our desires.

By having a budget, we can remember how much we can use and not exceed the limits. Otherwise, we will only lose more money and also lose self-control.

Even with constant practice and also being helped by encouragement or support from those closest to them to stop, it will be useless if they themselves are still hesitant to leave gambling or there is still a sense of wanting to gamble with a high thirst for victory and emotions. If they can control their emotions and control themselves when playing with the aim of just entertainment, maybe there will be no bad effects that can spend all their money. Even if they have a budget that they must pay, in my opinion, for the addict it is not something that can prevent him from returning to gambling again, he can borrow here and there to return to gambling.
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