Some Altcoins have improved on it i think.
I don't have a technical run down list for ya though.
I usually don't care much about that stuff anymore.
I was trying to work on miner programs a couple years back and when i stopped i lost interest in the technical side i think.
But just look at the complaints from Bitcoin users about confirmation times..
Confirmation complains will be solved, segwit brings a 4MB (3.~mb), as soon as it actives, 4x more transactions will be processed for each block. Plus, lightning layer (if adopted) will introduce instant pays (if i got it) Bitcoin is the best because it had more time then any other crypto for development, as iamnotback said, he had the time to get polished, but many other projects are some what close to bitcoin's "finishing", just avoid following projects based on their price, as a lot of project's token price is faked, manipulated, and doesn't reflects the technical level of the team behind it. Bitcoin's technical level is really amazing, plus it is open source, and collaborative, not all the other projects can arg so, and this is why it's price is high, and why he is my favorite currency. |
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Thanks for sharing the conclusions of your detailed study. Yeah you're right I've never looked at those integration issues. Okay but I had already agreed with you that Bitcoin is more polished in some facets. But I am talking big picture concepts and you are talking about details. Vitalik is not the kind of guy you put in charge of the details (and I don't know to what extent he has delegated management of all the fine grained details). He is too busy blazing new trails and doing important research. Ethereum is the more experimentative and novel ecosystem. It is not yet the refined ecosystem. I am a programmer and I like good APIs. But good APIs require a lot of painstaking effort by focused designers. Bitcoin has that. For example, Gmaxwell is afaik German. Vitalik is Russian. Russians are known for their algorithm twists of genius. Vitalik displays precisely that sort of attitude and interest. He is always creating an abstract model of everything he studies. I have watched him in videos and observed him doing this live in real time. I have German ancestry but also Welsh, French, and Cherokee native American tribe. Leaders bring different personalities and priority skills sets. Bitcoin is clearly the more tightly engineered ecosystem. I agree with you, each developer have his own way of working, personally i am straight forward, and try to be as specific as possible in my code.
It is very, very difficult for one company or project to do all facets at the same level of excellence. Maybe for a major corporation such as Facebook or Google, but even Google has stumbled so many times and has shut down so many services and stranded former users of those services. And some of Google's APIs have sucked. It is difficult to keep every facet perfect when rushing to do many experiments.
Agree also, but with a good organisation and segmentation, projects can develop every facet, in this point, Bitcoin have an enormous advantage as anyone can comme and work on it, so if i don't like the layout of bitcoin-qt, i can change it, offer it to the community. Bitcoin I think has more top-notch methodical engineering types than Ethereum does. Ethereum's contributors seem to be much more out-of-the-box type personalities (also quite young and perhaps inexperienced) of what I remember about the coders I've seen in the videos.
Maybe, but i don't think age is a problem, nor the lack of experience, i think they lack of global vision because this is what lets you thinking on other facets of a project, things might look perfect for the developers, but usually, we always omit parts of the project, this is why it is important to provide support to new users/early adopters, as they bring new ideas and point to perninent issues omited by devs. JavaScript's ecosystem is a nightmare of chaotic experimentation with millions of confusing choices on npmjs. We even now have incompatible module formats competing with each other, and other examples of disorder.
You know, i am a supporter of JavaScript, i like to use NodeJS, i believe it brings new features with amazing capabilities. the problem you are pointing to is that because of nodejs, webDevs are now considered as Devs, because JS is turning to a Machine Language, this is why there are so much concurring packages, but maybe it is not that bad, at least we have a large pannel of solutions. Experimentation is great, as long at it is contained into a sandbox environment, it is one of the points i don't agree on with ethereum, they released and experiment and attributed a value to its token, basically people invest on experiment. It can radically change at any moment, and the usage of javascript in the console is just irrelevant because of the JSON interface. you guys keep praising Ethereum and its features and claim it is good and the reason for the rise. did you know Lisk is doing the same thing but much easier, much more efficiently and it does it with JavaScript which is so much better and more multi platform-friendly  do you know why Lisk price is low! because these features you keep claiming to be good and useful is not being used by anyone and probably nobody is going to use it in the future either. well apart from making another DAO on ethereum and make shitloads of money and cause another ETH/ET.. fork Lisk is a great project, and i really believe they are a serious competitor to Bitcoin, have a look at this list goregeous API : https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-wiki/wiki/Lisk-API-ReferenceEverything you need is here, their support is awesome, i talked with them on slack and asked for some support, who answered ? the CEO, this is a great approach to users. I follow them closely because i know they will realise great things if they keep moving the way they are doing. @iamnotback you should have a look at Lisk, and try playing with their API, it is based on javascript too, they built it on nodeJS, with PostgreSQL (leveldb for bitcoin), regardless of the built-in web wallet (which is not really necessary). did you know Lisk is doing the same thing but much easier, much more efficiently
No we don't know that. Afaik, their marketing sucks. Never hear anything. The last I heard was when Charles Hoskinson made a video explaining that the Lisk devs had raised a lot of money but were technically and managerially incompetent. Lisk, Waves, and Rise were ICO'ed at a very opportune time when ICO fever was at its maximum. So some incompetent groups were able to raise $millions. and it does it with JavaScript which is so much better and more multi platform-friendly JavaScript also has some tradeoffs. do you know why Lisk price is low!
Because copycoins suck. Vitalik is the leader of the innovation on Turing-complete blockchains. No genius developer from Lisk has been able to show on YouTube that he is of the same caliber. Lisk hasn't innovated much. They take Dan Larimer (Bitshares') Graphene/DPoS and marry it to JavaScript and think they've done something important. It is basically just copying the leaders, while the leaders continue to innovate. If DPoS was a decentralized or even exciting solution, then Vitalik could have adopted it. Instead Vitalik has attempted to continue to innovate with Casper (although I think he and Vlad have failed to attain any significant breakthrough with Casper). I agree specifically on the last point, Lisk, Waves, Rise are comming from the same guys, i am sure about that even if i don't really have proofs. I don't think Waves have real chances, but lisk yes, again, look at the API documentation, they will go far. I am not the kind of user who judges a project because it can be integrated, many aspects have to be taken in count, and "multi-platform" isn't an argument at all, it is made with JS. |
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Stopped reading here ETH: This project lack of serious development and enhancement
Ethereum's programming research and development in blockchain and cryptocurrency is comparable to the industrial revolution. Good or bad, great innovations or learning from one's mystake, what or how things work, how they don't.. well this is where it happens. Blockchain technology is where it is today because of ethereum, dragged the dead weight with it. On top of that, brought mainstream attention from people that actually matter, and not only the attention of average joes ( bitcoin case ). What i mean is, the methods provided by geth/eth are limited, too much limited, they could offer a lot more, you want to develop a blockchain technology ? ok, no problem, you want to make it funny ? it is up to you, but if you create a coin/token with it you should at least provide more ways to use it. Try to integrate ethereum in a website, and you will understand what i mean. Bitcoin and forks/clones based on him are the easyest coins to integrate, why ? methods. Check bitcoin adn ethereum Methods, RPC/IPC/console, compare them, and see which one is the easyest to use and the with most features. This is why i think seriously need to work on methods. Plus, they have a serious node discovery problem, but the devs are more worried about politics to care for their users. Bitcoin has more ecosystem advantages in one facet of blockchains, but Ethereum has smart contracts. Ethereum isn't as polished, but it arguably casts a wider influence demographics net. CounterParty is not a secure design. Also Bitcoin is bogged down in a HF war involving the major mining cartels. Ethereum is probably going to beat Bitcoin to market in offering payment channel instant transactions. ETH reached $1.6B mcap in June 2015 when Bitcoin was $3.xB. So minimum upside I see for Ethereum in Q2 is $8 billion mcap. But I think parity with BTC's mcap is now possible and if BTU is killed off and BTC heads up to $2000+ as expected, perhaps ETH will reach $20 - $30billion market cap in 2017 also. So I am considering an upside of 400 - 500% this year as a possibility. With a double or so coming quite soon as a distinct possibility. Other smaller mcaps may have even more upside, but I don't know which one to choose (roll a dice). XMR was another possible choice (and my angel investor already holds some, as well some of a DAG blockchain). I am not a long-term bull on ETH. I am hedging. Will reevaluate as the BTU vs. BTC fiasco plays out. I am not talking about market price, i focus more on the code. Smart contract is a great idea, now i would like you to compare these links, don't rush to answer because it is a long task, andi did it : - https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/JSON-RPC- https://github.com/ethereumproject/go-ethereum/wiki/Management-APIs- https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_listAnd then tell me which one you will use for integration ? Consider other aspects, more practical, when you run geth, on a VPS/server, you have to use "screen" (or annother program to run it in background) because he always sends the data to console, really annoying, then comes the support, try to ask integration questions, and you will find 0 support, or just a little with clues as answers. plus, again, node discovery is totally messed, maybe there is no problem eth regarding this point, but etc have a real issue, and some are aleready complaining about the same issue with eth, so i assume it isjust a matter of time. one of the great things eth did, was to fuse eth and geth even if you can use them separately, geth can be used to manage the node and merchant operations. Integration | Clarity | User Friendly These are the basic concepts for any project to achieve its goals (sounds like i am repeating) Each of the other coins lack of at least one of them, and most lacks of all these elements. |
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While the idea of a conspiracy is appealing I think what we are seeing is just a coincidence of wants, it seems several actors acting independently want to bring down bitcoin, nothing more.
The conspiracy idea comes in mind when you note that some actors are reccuring. |
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It is good to get back to origins when you are uncertain about what to do, but i think it is a bad idea to apply them. Satoshi's statements are old, and the actual technologies was just theories when he was still comming in the forum back in 2013, only fools could decide to follow what he said, because it is a different time, with different actors and situations.
Better thinking to a reliable solution then applying old sollutions, or old predictions.
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merely preparing and testing is a form of pre-emption because it is enough to scare the hell out of miners so they do not attack in the first place.
Or they prepare counter-measures to whatever is (publicly) tested, because they are too belligerent to back down, tail between legs. I seriously doubt your scenario. We already see Jihan opening up and looking for a compromise by the mere mention of a PoW change. Or buying time. I pretty sure you don't get it. Bitmain et al don't care about their infrastructure, or negotiating, I'm convinced you've never dealt with sufficiently pathological characters to understand this. Forget their words, or rhetorical actions, and look strictly at what their primary mode of behaviour adds up to. They will do or say anything in order to get what they want; the destruction of this currency and it's economy. Decisive, strike-first and belligerent evasive action is probably the only thing that can save the value in the Bitcoin network as it is today, and if you can't see that, and some surprise move that nobody (except apparently me) anticipated sends things into even more of a tailspin, then you and everyone else who are saying "let's talk and pro-crastinate on our options for another 9 months" will get everything you deserve. To put it another way, imagine that those directing Bitmain's actions have a planned killer blow to land. Do you think they're going to announce it 6 months in advance on a public forum? We must act, we're being forced into an "eat or be eaten" situation, and you can't see it. Do you really believe that they can produce a Equihash, Keccak, or ETHhath asic in 6 months? We should also be prepared with a secret backup HF algo tested and ready to go in the event they do indeed decide to attack with a secret ASIC, this should alleviate your concerns. If your concern is that they will fund gpu farms to attack , than we should be pushing for a Equihash and /or Ethhash merge mine option to protect ourselves. Talking about merged mining, what would happen to the other coins who have merged mining with bitcoin ? and counter party assets ? |
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Again Carlton is right, they are too beligerant to be trusted, they use any opportunity to blaim bitcoin-core devs, have anyone here checked the issue opened in BU's repo by gmaxwell ? It is an edifiant example of how they behave when it comes to core devs.
They actions untill know proofs they want to take over bitcoin, plus, their code is in appearance open sourced, but only to watch, if you want to contribute you need them to accept your modifications, and they some says they are glad to pay for others to work on BU code. This makes me thinking of some shitcoins, they always work like that.
Actions, either offencive, or deffencive, must be taken to ensure the future of bitcoin.
I don't know for you, but i won't accept a paypal 2.0
If miners take controle of bitcoin, they will for sure play with fees, or, who knows, maybe they will totally screw the code, the same way they screw BU code.
I have nothing agains capitalism, but it is really bad for decentralised projects, as they tend to add more centralisation in order to controle it. think about this.
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I told you already: "preparing" sounds too much like a euphemism for "fucking around"
Quit the bandying of hashing algorithms around already, we need to pre-empt their attack, not sit around waiting for it to happen. If the lead-time to develop a Keccak ASIC is long enough, we need to get the ball rolling, as soon as is diligently possible.
Simply changing the PoW pre-emtively sets a bad precedent because it harms good miners and long term investors and it will harm cryptocurrency in general by showing how flippant the community can be. Most of the users and core developers I have spoken to do not support pre-emptively changing the PoW algo, thus this HF would have very few following it , and we would not have the moral high ground. Perhaps there can be another way though to prepare .... where we develop a full node wallet , like Knots, where it simultaneously mines the other PoW algo on a testnet, where during times of contention users can enable this secondary mining and have the users ready to quickly HF over when ready. True, someone aleready experimented a multi algo coin, i forgot the name of the coin, but it can't bring good results as each algorithm requires custom GPU tweaks, so if you change the algo at each new block, miners will leave. Annother sollution would be to define an ASIC safe algo and use it, i don't know much about Keccac, but if luke-jr believes that he can be amended to fit in bitcoin-core code, then we should go for this sollution. |
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Stopped reading here ETH: This project lack of serious development and enhancement
Ethereum's programming research and development in blockchain and cryptocurrency is comparable to the industrial revolution. Good or bad, great innovations or learning from one's mystake, what or how things work, how they don't.. well this is where it happens. Blockchain technology is where it is today because of ethereum, dragged the dead weight with it. On top of that, brought mainstream attention from people that actually matter, and not only the attention of average joes ( bitcoin case ). What i mean is, the methods provided by geth/eth are limited, too much limited, they could offer a lot more, you want to develop a blockchain technology ? ok, no problem, you want to make it funny ? it is up to you, but if you create a coin/token with it you should at least provide more ways to use it. Try to integrate ethereum in a website, and you will understand what i mean. Bitcoin and forks/clones based on him are the easyest coins to integrate, why ? methods. Check bitcoin adn ethereum Methods, RPC/IPC/console, compare them, and see which one is the easyest to use and the with most features. This is why i think seriously need to work on methods. Plus, they have a serious node discovery problem, but the devs are more worried about politics to care for their users. |
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I doubt Bitmain will loose time and money to develop a keccac ASIC, they did an enormous investment in the new farm.
The emergency is to make bitcoin compliant with an algorythm change, if the miners still wants to force a protocl change, then he will simply be activated. It can be used a threatening option.
Do not forget that miners have to follow the community, not force it to adopt the changes they want, if the miners want a more suitable version of bitcoin to mine, let them create their own, i will stay with bitcoin-core as long as they respect the original ideology, because i respect people who do so, and i respect their ideology.
I don't care about bitcoin price, nor about his name, these can change as long as the heart remains the same.
And Carlton Banks is right.
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I don't think you need a conspiracy. Nature of man is to compete with the one who has the most. Everyone is trying to discredit BTC and grab some of your BTC. And now Bitcoiners are doing self-destructive HFs to divide-and-conquer themselves, forcing us to diversify into for example Ethereum and Dash which are allegedly both not aggregate markets. So much for our idealism about changing the world, eh?  I agree about the Ethereum scenario, it would be catastrophic, both ETH and ETC are just useless consumption of ram/disc/cpu, they are like frozen since the hard fork. Even if i don't think bitcoin will freez, the HF will for sure create a great unstability in price, especially if BU manages to have enough support from the community, this poll gives a nice idea about what bitcoin users wants : http://www.strawpoll.me/12569383/rWhen you check the funds BU is spending to get more community support, and their supports, you can ask your self about a conspiracy, especially when their funders are related to other projects and exchanges, and, miners. |
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I had a look at many threads in this section, each one wth a different title. What i noticed is the actual pump of crypto currencies, and the relative stability of BTC, except since his last dump to ~1050$, but it is normal a guess. If the title is crypto conspiracy, it is mainly because a lot of users are talking about hte recent event in the Crypto sphere, the BU crash and the reaction of their dev team, Dash's price skyrocketing, XMR attention increase, the bitcoin foundation actoins against Bitcoin (roger ver and the others). Considering other posts like the withdrawal of Dan from Steem project, and the pump on steem, plus some interesting posts from users like i am not back. I am asking a question, can all of these events be linked in a way who will reveal a crypto conspiracy against Bitcoin-core ? I know that Bitmain wants to force bitcoin protocol to be what he wants, BU protocol, this is why in the next few months(maybe days) he will own around 45% of the network hashpower, consireding VIABtc is bitmain's child, and the hard fork threat from Jihan Wu. Considering Roger Ver and Anthony Di Iorio engagement in BU, and many other crypto-based projects, can we say they are actually the source of all the pumps ? or at least some of them ? Someone said in annother post that Roger Ver is apparently pumping prices of altcoins to fake a less of interest for bitcoin, BU is for sure founded by the bitcoin foundation, who's members are : https://bitcoinfoundation.org/bitcoin-speakers-bureau/https://bitcoinfoundation.org/bitcoin-speakers-bureau/Compiling these informations, plus or less, do you consider it a conspiracy scheme ? or a covering war BC VS BU ? (Maybe war isn't really the best word here, bitcoin-core-devs aren't the kind of people to waste time on such considerations, but BU are, just read their reactions after the bug exploit) |
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I like this kind of post, at least you can have some real informations about general overview of coins development.
BTC : Actually in uncertain track, i don't really know what will happen but i don't think it's status of flagship is bothered by the actual events. The rise of projects like Bitcoin unlimited or classic can lead to ethereum/ethereum classic scenario, it may cause its price to sinck, but his status will never change.
ETH: This project lack of serious development and enhancement, instead of focusing on blockchain services, smart contracts, and off chain transactions, they should enhance the integration capacities of ethereum, and enhance the methods who can be used by their client. Integration is a key element for a project to realise its goals, and they have a lot of work to do. ETC is in a worst condition, especially because of the lack of nodes, they should work on side sollutions for nodes discovery, bootnodes are insuficient, they have also the same problems ETH have.
DASH: Well, the recent market cap rising can be a temporar effect, regardless of the premine, or any ponzy/pyramid scheme, DASH is a blockchain that offers many services, with a vote system, they can either turn to a flagship currency, or to an enormous fiasco depending on the next development steps, they will introduce what most of recent coins offer, built-in web wallet.
XMR: this coin needs enhance methods for wallets management and accounts creation, it remebers me of the early days of ETH, with eth and geth running separatly, using a single binary is essencial for adoption, web wallets are useless for developers/merchants, especially without an API to manage it. They still have a lot of work to catch-up the other currencies.
So, there are many projects out there, the only one who offeres a full set of methods/services is bitcoin, regardless of what will happen (HF, SF, new algo ...) bitcoin will always stay on top of the other coins because it is the most matured project with the largest adoption.
The other crypto currencies must enhance the integration possibilities of their projects, it is essencial for project acceptance and development.
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So finally i had the answer to my question in the first page of the thread, i would like to ask for all the Advantages/Inconvenients who could result from an algorythm change, i am aware of bitmain's attempt, and if ViaBtc is really a child of Bitmain, they will own more then 51% of the network. If the algorythm change can really bring protection against this situation, then i am totally for algo change. yet i want to know what are the expected effects on the network, users, markets. I don't want bitcoin to turn to BU, both philosophies are different, and opposing at some points. The recent events should really get every user to think about what would happen if bitmain achieves the 51%+ network hashrate, and to the announcements in the twitter account of Jihan Wu. I also participated to an interesting survey with live results update : http://www.strawpoll.me/12569383/rI invite you to do the same as it is related to this project. |
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I just had a look at the book and i must congratulate you, it is an amazing work, i believe that every cryptocurrency shall do the same, it is a clear, soft way to introduce bitcoin and all what how he works, in an easy to understand language, most of the bitcoin users are not familiar with c++, and don't use it all, great idea to give examples using javascript.
You can enhance the Peers section, there is a nodeJS module who communicates with peers and returns live data : p2p-manager
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As long as you understand how a website should work, and knows about the common security methods and code guidelines, you should be able to make a small scale proffesional website within 1 month. Now if you want to integrate bitcoin safely, you may need more time, depending on how you think, because each coder have his own tips and tricks, code style, and blueprints. From here, you better start learning and test test test.
When you feel confident enough, you can go build your website, do not focus on design, this can comme in the the end, the most important is to focus backend because this is what secures your website/users/functions.
Learned,and Many THANKS TO YOU.  Happy to help, feel free to ask if you have any problem, i know that when it comes to programming things may turn tricky in a weired way. If you ever feel lost, or stuck, do some mini projects to increase your understanding of what you need to know, this way you can return to your project with fresh ideas, and extended knowledge. Do not hesitate to make it as complex as possible, you will learn a lot doing this. |
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bcoin is an awesome project, i follow the development on github, this will bring many new features to bitcoin. And it is user friendly.
insight is user friendly also, this is why it had been used by bitcore to make their block explorer.
bitcore is an implementation of bitcoin core in nodejs, they forked insight and adapted it to be supported by bitcore code. Yes bitcore can be used with altcoins, so does insight, but the insight version of bitcore is more a UI version, it is called insight UI for bitcore, so it is just an adaptation.
The most interesting to work with is bcoin as it is a true bitcoin node in a browser.
could it be userd in others altcoin? With some knowledge and patience you can turn any project to an altcoin compliant project. In the case of Iquidus, it is really easy as it is made to be supported by Altcoins, for insight, if you have any problem you can fork it from some projects who aleready adapted it, and see how they did in the commits history, then adapt it to your own. Or, build your own, it is not that complicated, just time consuming. |
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what you posted isnt working, and it is just showing information that should not be public cause can be used by any atacker to harm or shut down your site
It's a spam. See how old is the OG post. He is talking about nickelbot i think, because the library itself will work unless poloniex changes their methods, even if so, one can just change it and it will work again, i made a library for poloniex but without Private API support, i had a look at it, and the one provided here is correct, so it will work. If this one doesn't suits you, you can use the Poloniex-node-api. |
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Ok now I really don't know what to do. Even version 0.14 will crash before it gets finished syncing to the network. Its a totally new wallet on a totally new machine and it can't sync up.
Could you send a pastebin with the content of the debug.conf ? maybe it will give some clues about what is happening. Could also please tell us your network configuration ? do you have a firewall ? I personally never had any problem with bitcoin core, but as achow said, sometimes hardware problems apear. could you also give more details about your hardware, how much RAM you have ? |
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Great, sounds like a new ponzi is in the place, you shouldn't even post this at all, because we know that you will steal people's money, and a registered UK company is not a trust warrant at all, too many people have aleready been fooled.
Do not get into this, high possiblity of SCAM PONZY scheme.
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