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6501  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2018 USA Mid Terms! Red or Blue Waves?!? on: November 03, 2018, 05:49:23 PM
Blue tsunami in 3 days!! Dems are gonna pick up 40 seats in the house haha!



Its 40 seats now? You wouldn't even take a bet for 35 seats.... you are either extremely delusional or don't believe what you are saying and just hypebeasting desperately hoping it will help xD
6502  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: November 02, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-administration-migrant-caravan-border-troops-1193694

Seems like at least the American Military isn't scared of a few civilians with kids in flip flops.

In the Militaries opinion the MLCOA is the caravan will dwindle as it heads north and about 20% will make it to the border.  They have also cited it is unlikely the migrants will be a violent threat nor are they likely to be smuggling drugs or human traffickers.

Ironically what they did say was more of a threat than the caravan was the ARMED red neck retards who want to play vigilante with their fucking guns who in the past have stolen national guard equipment...

In short your military is telling you your Pussy Grabber in Chief is a fear mongering scaredy cat who is using the military and spending millions of tax payers dollars on a false flag for the MT's, and you retards are eating it up hook line and sinker.

Either stop caravans with 1000 or 10,000 or have them with 100,000 and 1,000,000 next year. They're well funded from international sources for specific political purposes.

Stop acting like this is some joke please, or nothing more than an opportunity to blast the current POTUS.

It will be a joke to him until civil unrest gets out of control here, then he will be crying about his borders.
6503  Economy / Reputation / More censorship by Flying Hellfish on: November 02, 2018, 01:19:45 PM
It takes the force of loving guns to make unloving gun people act like they are loving.

Cool

LOVE! Now available in .32 and .38 full and semi automatic modes.

B1tUnl0ck3r and BADecker are literally the reason why military weapons shouldn't be available to civilians.  Their brains don't function properly, logic is twisted to suit their agenda and when the wrong thing sets their logic on fire watch the fuck out!

These 2 users are both likely one "event" away from being the next MAGA bomber or MAGA Synagogue Shooter and if they do go to the next level they just have to pick up the AR and hand guns sitting on the couch next to them!

You are disgusting. I really want to leave it at that but you will probably remove the reply for being off topic if I don't elaborate. You have little to no self awareness. Your exploitation of these attacks to cast these people as terrorists for supporting the laws and foundation of our nation is truly sickening.

These two have plenty of ideas to be critical over, this is just your personal peev. Also you are a fucking Canadian, how about you stop injecting yourself into all of our internal policies. Oh that's right you live in Canada and it is a frozen wasteland so you have to focus on the US all the time.


EDIT: This post was taken out of context from a thread in Politics & Society and posted here because Flying Hellfish is attempting to prevent a critical, on topic reply to his post by cropping it off and posting it here. I did not make this op as a new thread, but as a reply to the quotes above.
6504  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump wants to end birthright citizenship on: November 01, 2018, 05:59:09 PM
That's not the perspective of people that live in a county that's overwhelmed with the problem.

But yours is a common attitude, for people far removed from the everyday implications of it.

I love your attempt to put me into some category that's not supposed to have a "perspective" or feel "implications". How about you address the actual topic instead of who and how disagrees with you.

Trash-canning the constitution isn't solving anything and would likely waste billions of tax dollars and put 4 million families through unnecessary trouble for a minuscule benefit. Trump is already sending 5000 troops to the border, are you saying he can't stop ~100 pregnant women from crossing the border each day? 50 soldiers per woman, sounds doable.


I love how the left are constitutionalists all of a sudden xD

Nothing you said is credible let alone sourced. That is except for the 5000 troops on the border. That is happening. The 14th amendment was never meant to be interpreted this way.
6505  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: November 01, 2018, 03:00:17 AM
It is totally irrelevant. The point is the record of attacks. This is not a matter of opinion or sources.

Then stop being a douche and post a source that isn't from an anonymous forum

If you can't find one, then it doesn't exist, it's that simple

Calling me stupid for not trusting an anonymous source...

Actually, you are wrong in this case. Not stupid, just wrong.

Also I'd say ignorant. If you want to be posting on a bitcoin forum, you should definitely know what the website zero hedge is....

He knows what it is, he just wants to ignore it so he can try to continue his Victorian style couch fainting as if the left have been completely civil over the past couple years. Again it makes no difference, you can look up criminal complaints usually very easily making each case fairly simple to verify.
6506  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Does the Far Right Hold a Near-Monopoly on Political Violence? on: November 01, 2018, 02:57:09 AM
No one look at Communism btw, those hundreds of millions of dead don't count as leftist violence!

umm... got a source for that?

There isn't any war in history where "hundreds of millions" died... that simply never happened

Are you adding up the deaths from every war combined, and blaming it all on "leftists"?

https://www.victimsofcommunism.org/

Their estimates are conservative, and this is just for Communism.
6507  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
(don't even bother reading this)
....
I stopped reading your link when I saw that it was posted by "Tyler Durden".......

That's the way articles at Zero Hedge are signed. It's credible.

There's often good material at Zero Hedge. Sometimes a bit wacko but not often.

It is totally irrelevant. The point is the record of attacks. This is not a matter of opinion or sources.
6508  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Deep State on: October 31, 2018, 03:50:35 PM
Is this one fake too? It is easy to judge when you are taking no risks... I none of you sourcing anything of your own. You are too post modern for sources.

https://policy.defense.gov/portals/11/Documents/hdasa/references/HSPD-20.pdf
6509  Other / Politics & Society / Karl Marx: Past, Present and Future on: October 31, 2018, 03:38:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NirpXeuXlbU

I think a lot of the regulars here could benefit from listening this carefully and completely.
6510  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Deep State on: October 31, 2018, 03:03:35 PM
Dude you are playing with fire.... I have inside information about the deep state because my family has been part of it for 13 generations.  If I were you I would put my tinfoil hat on so they can't find you and maybe go super dark and lose all reliance on electricity because the deep state has the electrical grid wired to tap and spy on anyone mentioning the word deep state.

Also the bogey man says hi!

LOL  Grin  Shocked  Roll Eyes  Shocked  Cool

https://whitehouse.gov1.info/continuity-plan/

Interesting. The Whitehouse says the "Shadow Government" exists. I guess they are conspiracy theorists too.

"The Shadow Government

Following a catastrophic national emergency, the President, or his successor can authorize the establishment of a temporary "shadow government" to maintain control of the essential functions of the Federal Government. President Bush activated the shadow government on September 11, 2001 shortly after the second attack on the World Trade Center. "
6511  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump wants to end birthright citizenship on: October 31, 2018, 02:48:33 PM
I'm aware of the current interpretation and I agree, Trump thinking he can pencil whip a change to the constitution is a slap in the face of over a hundred years of precedent.

My question was if the republicans could remove birthright citizenship what would they do about the baby in this situation.

The hypothetical is relevant because a very powerful Republican man had 3 kids with a women who wasn't an American citizen.

I think you are exploiting the conflation between REVOKING existing citizenship and ENDING birthright citizenship to the children of non-citizens.
6512  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Deep State on: October 31, 2018, 02:42:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyBNmecVtdU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS2FSfRZZIs
6513  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 02:37:55 PM
You two should get a room. Maybe Flying Hellfish will join you and you can confirm each other's biases all night.

I made an argument, I produced video of actual events to support the premise. The escalation of leftist violence against the right is well documented, and the media has largely been encouraging of it more than anything. This has been going on for years, now that political violence is acceptable to some people you want to blame the right after the left fostered this environment for years. I hope the LAARPing was worth it. Don't forget to PUNCH A NAZI!
6514  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:31:00 PM
You're not entitled to live anywhere besides where you have citizenship. I just don't understand how some people can defend illegals who are completetly trying to bypass the immigration system. That's a complete and utter slap in the face to people who have came to countries legally.

He wants to stop the Caravan because that's the law of the land, it's crazy thinking that a President can't do this sort of thing. I don't get it.

Why am I the only one who has heard of the Geneva Convention or The Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees?

There is nothing illegal about what they are doing... this is all within the law that has been followed for 70 years

Tell me, who is persecuting them?
6515  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 02:16:08 PM
I have this thing called empathy, so I tend to put myself in someone else's shoes...

If I was living in some shit-hole country, where US economic policy and/or bombs have devastated my home land... I would think, "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em", and walk my ass to the US with the rest of the caravan

What I don't understand is people who think they are entitled to live in a country, but others are not

What entitles people? THE LAW.

I have empathy, and common sense. I have empathy for all the immigrants already here enjoying an improved standard of living, along with their friends and families, as well as my own who are going to suffer if immigration law is not enforced.

I also have the common sense to know this is not something that can just be done infinitely without negative effects. I can see how some one who thinks Communism is great would think we could though.


Yeah, diseases are just a conspiracy theory right?


When someone claims the caravan is carrying a disease that has been eradicated from the planet for almost 4 decades then yes I would call that a really really bad conspiracy theory, fake news and fear mongering.

Whats it like to live in a country where a few thousands civilians in flip flops are a threat to your national security. LOL you fucking pussies are scared to death of a few people...

Nice straw man. I didn't make any of those claims now you act as if I should answer for them.
Is Tuberculosis a conspiracy theory? Yeah who knew that communicable diseases are an issue in countries with almost no functional medical systems right?


Millions of undocumented people have been flooding in for years. "A few people", yeah you say the same thing,...every time...

Hey smart guy, tell me. Have you ever considered what happens to The Great White North once the US collapses from being overwhelmed economically and civilly by not enforcing its borders? You think you can grow enough food up there in popsicle land to feed yourselves without our imports? Do you think for more than 3 seconds ahead ever?
6516  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:56:15 PM
You said "these people". You didn't say "some" of these and you do admit you think it is most of them. I wonder how you know that, how Trump knows that. Have you asked them, have you conducted a sociological research or is it just plain hatered and prejudice.

Yes? And? I am responsible for YOUR generalizations now? As if I don't explicitly say i don't mean all it should be assumed. No, I don't have to account for your interpretations of my words, just my words.

It is really simple. The places they come from have high rates of crime, poor education systems, poor medical systems, etc. IE they are pretty much guaranteed to be a liability. That is why we have a legal process for legally immigrating here. You keep screaming about racism if you like, your baseless infantile character attacks do not shame me, they shame you.


NIGHT TIME JOKE MEN ALL AGREE: ORANGEMAN BAD


ooo The Daily Show! There is a reputable source for you.


Seeing as terrorism is a big problem, along with potential future conflict with Russia and China, unidentified persons slipping into the country would quite clearly constitute a threat to national security, among other things.

Don't forget smallpox, it would be such a shame if the caravan was able to bring that back into the US eh?  That might threaten hundreds of millions of Americans!

Yeah, diseases are just a conspiracy theory right?


6517  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
[snip]
They don't have rights to asylum, even if they did, Mexico is a safe harbor country which has offered them asylum. By passing thru Mexico they have no right to claim asylum here, EVEN IF they had a valid claim.

Some of them already applied for asylum... the average approval rate is 76%, with the last caravan which arrived in April being 93% acceptance

Trump and many GOP candidates have claimed that they are trying to illegally enter the country. But a look at the most recent caravan, which reached the U.S. border in April, paints a very different picture.

According to data and congressional testimony from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officials, 122 members of that caravan were caught trying to illegally enter the country. But 401 members of the caravan presented themselves at ports of entry and requested asylum.

Federal officials interviewed those asylum-seekers and found 374 of them, or 93 percent, passed their initial "credible fear" test. That’s higher than the 76 percent approval rate that all asylum-seekers received in fiscal year 2018, according to Citizenship and Immigration Services data.

You believe what you want. Past behavior does not dictate future results, even if that is all accurate, and I doubt it.

None of that changes the fact that The President of The United States has a VERY BROAD authority under the constitution and otherwise to limit immigration of any kind if he feels it is a threat to national security.

Seeing as terrorism is a big problem, along with potential future conflict with Russia and China, unidentified persons slipping into the country would quite clearly constitute a threat to national security, among other things.
6518  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Explosive devices sent to Bill/Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, George Soros, CNN, Source discussion on: October 31, 2018, 01:25:40 PM
Quote from: TECSHARE link=topic=5056567.msg47453749#msg47453749
Mad because his source is bullshit, read it if you want
#FakeNews

I'm not going to take it any more serious than this forum right here, because that's exactly what that "source" is... it is an anonymous internet forum, where anyone can post anything they want

I don't get my news from anonymous internet forums, why do you?

If you can find the same information from a reputable source, I'll read it... until then, it's at best anonymous, 3rd party hearsay, which hasn't been fact-checked, and not worth my time reading... just like your posts here... you might even be linking to yourself as a source because these are both anonymous forums...

So essentially...

-you have no argument, you dare not even address my premise that the left has been escalating violence against the right for years and has no "moral high ground"

-video of actual attacks on Trump supporters by leftists previously listed are "not reputable sources"

-you are even unwilling to engage in a debate simply unilaterally declaring anything and everything presented as "fake news"


Thanks for the perfect example of how the left slowly turns into everything it claims to hate.
6519  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:18:23 PM
So if they are poor and want a job, what is the problem with that? As far as I know, the US has a process for legal immigration. There are also job openings for "low" ranked jobs that Americans don't want to do. The color of skin doesn't affect ability to do those jobs.

Nothing. Except these people don't give a shit about the law. They don't want to immigrate legally, which takes years. They want to show up at the borders and be granted hand outs. Tell me, why is it they are going to California and not Texas when the trip is so much longer? Oh right, that's where they have the most handouts. Being poor is not an acceptable legal reason for granting of asylum. Their government is not persecuting them. General high levels of crime don't count either.


Some more real reasons to stop them:

-rule of law
-stop hostile infiltrators (what is the point of passports?)
-could be human sex traffickers among them using them as cover
-tax burden, both local and Federal
-if we don't stop them more and more will come
-pathogens, legal immigrants go thru a screening process
-lack of respect for our laws by entering illegally, making them criminals




How are you able to make sweeping generalisation like that? Is there any evidence that every single person is like that? Do you think these people are stupid thinking US is a promise land where everything is given out for free?

Not sure where I said every single person, but still willing to bet the vast majority of them. Leftists groups advertise the free stuff to them in their home country to try to import voters here. It is really irrelevant. Wanting a job is not a legal reason to claim asylum, neither is being poor or living in a high crime country. They don't have rights to asylum, even if they did, Mexico is a safe harbor country which has offered them asylum. By passing thru Mexico they have no right to claim asylum here, EVEN IF they had a valid claim.
6520  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What are the real reasons Trump wants to stop the Caravan? on: October 31, 2018, 01:04:00 PM
So if they are poor and want a job, what is the problem with that? As far as I know, the US has a process for legal immigration. There are also job openings for "low" ranked jobs that Americans don't want to do. The color of skin doesn't affect ability to do those jobs.

Nothing. Except these people don't give a shit about the law. They don't want to immigrate legally, which takes years. They want to show up at the borders and be granted hand outs. Tell me, why is it they are going to California and not Texas when the trip is so much longer? Oh right, that's where they have the most handouts. Being poor is not an acceptable legal reason for granting of asylum. Their government is not persecuting them. General high levels of crime don't count either.


Some more real reasons to stop them:

-rule of law
-stop hostile infiltrators (what is the point of passports?)
-could be human sex traffickers among them using them as cover
-tax burden, both local and Federal
-if we don't stop them more and more will come
-pathogens, legal immigrants go thru a screening process
-lack of respect for our laws by entering illegally, making them criminals


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