The criticisms of some of the estimates were mostly focused on three aspects: (i) the estimates were based on sparse and incomplete data when significant errors are inevitable;[34][35][16] (ii) some critics said the figures were skewed to higher possible values;[36][w][34] and (iii) some critics argued that victims of Holodomor and other man-made famines created by Communist governments should not be counted.[37][34][38] Even then, all of this talk of deaths is a very effective distraction away from the main discussion about the good attributes and major accomplishments of the soviet union. Not one person ever said the soviet union was even mostly good but I let you derail the entire conversation to be about the bad things. Imagine a discussion about anything that has ever happened in the USA devolving into how many people have been wrecked by agent orange. Oh I see! The hundreds of millions dead are just a footnote and a distraction from the historic and varied accomplishments of the great Communist empire are they? Cool whataboutism Captain Postmodern. |
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It is not ok to blame victims. You are talking about criticizing oppressed groups for behavior that is a result of their oppression. In this line of thought it is only ok to blame the group in power, the group that created the oppressive systems in the first place.
The ad had a black man saying "boys will be boys" so your claim is partially false. The ad does not distinguish race or sexual orientation as the source of the problem.
Although the ad is race neutral, its important to note that these trends of toxic masculinity took off well before women, blacks, or LGBTQ were even recognized as people. These tends of toxic masculinity actively oppressed said groups. Said groups take part in the culture now but that is exactly how it works. This is part of internalized oppression and more specifically hierarchal oppression. I submit you are in fact a racist, sexist, and a supremacist. Your bigotry is one of low expectations, robbing these so called "victim" classes of having any agency on their own, with every act they make being a result of the supremacy of the white male from your perspective. This is absolutely 100% in line with Marxism and Critical Theory right out of The Frankfurt School regardless of how many cutesy jokes you make in a pathetic attempt at denial of this fact. The stats you continuously regurgitate are actually evidence of the
Yes toxic masculinity usually starts off with men treating other men poorly and the other men pass on the oppression. Its not a "designated victim class" when women actually are victims. Imagine the sequence
Boss slaps man
man goes home and slaps wife
wife goes on to slap kid
kid goes on to slap weaker kid.
Everyone ends up believing
A. Violence is how you communicate expectations
B. Violence is how you express disappointment in the people you love
Although everyone plays a role, those in the upper hierarchal positions hold the burden of responsibility for how the culture is formed. This is why checking privilege is so important. The ad is calling on males to use their male privilege to fight against toxic masculinity, even if it is only a small percentage of males who are misbehaving.
TIL marxism is all about selling more razors. Well isn't that convenient you just get to narrate how it works from start to finish, just off the top of your head, with no factual support. I guess it must be fact right? I mean why else would you say it? You just got done talking about how you can't blame victim classes now in the same breath you are denying you are making this claim... wait for it... by using your own conclusions in circular logic to support your own premise! "Women are not part of a designated victim class because they are actually victims!" I mean... FFS, even if you were right your own fucking statement would still be self contradictory, but this is the usual quality debate you bring to the table. That was a cool little story there Captain Postmodern. I am not really sure how your retarded hypothetical constitutes anything even approaching reality or anything constituting "culture", but it was a great visual aid and I am sure quite effective at eliciting an emotional response, which I find many people of your ideology believe to be an acceptable substitute for logic. It is not an acceptable substitute, but you get a gold star for showing up. |
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You sure are talking a lot about "oppressed groups", "minorities", and "victim blaming" seeing as you say there is no Marxism involved. Oh right, I know more about the ideologies you advocate for than you do as a supporter. Nothing to worry about there right? Nothing bad ever came from well intentioned ignorance did it?
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No one is ever taking into account how much damage false negatives and mobbing do to this forum.
Incorrect, I can totally understand that being on the end of a false/frivolous tag could be detrimental to some members hence me starting a thread in rep that I encourage anyone tagged by me to post in, I have been totally open about my trust-list and tags, excluding 2 members then adding them back in once a discussion had occurred and changes happened. I believe you will find that as DT is now a democracy and not a dictatorship that those who want to help the forum will be far more flexible and communicative about tags and trust in general. Oh, well you unilaterally declare it incorrect as a direct beneficiary of this environment, it must be true! I am not speaking about you personally though I do find it interesting that you took it personally. Some unresolved cognitive dissonance there perhaps? In summary your argument boils down to "no you are wrong because I say so.", which really is not any argument at all. |
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A lot of you probably know this creator, Tim Pool. He is a self identifying leftist. He, like others are delivering serious warnings about the degradation of the left. He is one that tries really hard to be a bridge between ideologies, but he is also not one to ignore reality, and this is how he sees it. How do you see it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR2XLUfoH7k |
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We should start encouraging conscientious members to start tagging whether they are part of DT or not. The problem with this logic is most people want the authority without doing the work actually looking into the situation. They just want to shit out ratings assembly line style to give the image to the rest of the forum they are valuable and should get more authority. No one is ever taking into account how much damage false negatives and mobbing do to this forum. This "scambuster" mentality comes at a high cost. |
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That source was for the "communism cannot commit crimes" clarification. Ideologies don't kill people, people kill people.
Oh I see! So the ideology is perfectly innocent! Wow! Thanks for explaining everything in such simple ways. An ideology of systemic victimization and experimental social engineering is surely innocent in all of this! Cool story Captain Postmodern. Unfortunately it requires ones to have fewer than 2 brain cells to rub together to believe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes#Estimates |
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The stats you continuously regurgitate are actually evidence of the problem. Toxic masculinity is prevalent in male culture and conditions young boys to adopt reckless behaviors.
You brought the facts for me. Those extra men in prison or homelessness are victims of toxic masculinity. We tell boys they aren't allowed to cry or express their emotions from a young age. This along with natural aggression is a toxic combination that maybe doesn't drive males to kill, but omits creating an environment that would help prevent such.
Oh, I see. The fact that society treats men as disposable 2nd class citizens is all because of toxic masculinity! Oh it all makes so much sense now! It's all because no one taught them they could cry.. aw so simple. Seriously though, I know crustaceans with more functional brain cells than you. The ad is 100% Marxism, straight out of critical theory. Of course you don't know a God damned thing about the origins of the ideologies you advocate for, so you wouldn't know this. In summary, designate a victim class, designate a perpetrator, victimize perpetrator in the name of equality, create more victims, repeat. Really, I am not sure this ad could get ANY MORE Marxist without the USSR anthem playing while transparent overlays of statues of Lenin are displayed on top of it. |
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Cool story bro. From your own source:
"This research review does not claim to list all research
on the communist regimes’ crimes against humanity.
Bearing in mind the large
number of books written
on Soviet communism in particular, and on the terror
of the last decade in the West and in post-Soviet
Eastern Europe, this would be an impossible task."
IE your source is self admittedly incomplete and not even intended to be a complete assessment. The whataboutism is ofc up to your usual standards.
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The reason Marxism is so dangerous, is because it will destroy its host in order to reproduce its ideology. The power vacuum resulting in an opportunity for Communism to arise from the ashes. This includes individual organizations, and even on a more granular level individuals. In summary the smouldering hole that once was Gillet's market value is just a bonus on top of spreading their collectivized narcissistic mind virus.
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Here we are again, you want to be right but you don't want to do any of the work required to get there. Try "Manufacturing Consent", that is if you can manage to read a whole book without bursting into flames.
Could you fuck off please? Spendelus is saying "go read this guy" I'm asking "what would you advise me to read first as he has written a lot" How is that anything but being considerate towards his knowledge?? Or not doing the work? I should read everything he has written before openning my mouth? Shut the fuck up moron. You're pissing me off so much... No, I think I will fuck on, thank you. Your highly opinionated self righteous brand of ideology is dangerous to society, and people like me are here to make a desperate attempt to motivate you to educate yourself before the collective misguided efforts of people like you result in societal collapse, and civil war followed by global totalitarian dictatorship. I am sure you don't believe it but I am trying to do you a favor. You stomp your feet and cry and demand to be treated like an equal, but you never bring anything to the table. You make arrogant presumptuous comments, he provides you an author, and then you demand further spoon feeding. Maybe he should make airplane noises too while he does it? The fact that you don't recognize that understating these things takes a lot of work is on its face insulting, let alone the fact that you walk around pretending as if you have an equal level of understanding while spewing your self righteous accusations and presumptions. My hope is that one day I piss you off enough that you open up a book to prove me wrong. |
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Strange how obtaining some jewish scientists was all it took for a dirt poor country to become the most technologically advanced in the world. Its almost as if some sort of system and organization was in place that allowed them to take advantage of that expertise and mobilze production in order to quickly advance.
What in the fuck are you rambling about now? Is this yet another extended distraction from the genocide of hundreds of millions Communism is responsible for? Of course it is! This is absolute horseshit numbers on top of lying about genocide. Around 3 million at holdomor suddenly turned to "hundreds of millions". Of course there is distraction from people dying in a thread tittled "i miss the soviet union". Clearly, you should be able to understand that no one misses the deaths. You are the only one who is obsessed with these awful events to the point where its the entirety of your history knowledge being used. When the USA is long gone and someone says "i miss the usa", iits safe to assume they won't be talking about the genocide, slavery, or use of weapons of mass destruction against civilians. Horse shit... horse shit... that sounds familiar... go fuck yourself with your Communist horse shit. I mean really, do you have ANY thoughts of your own or is your entire life one giant act of projection and parroting? "The USA" is not a totalitarian ideology, it is a constitutional republic. A totalitarian ideology is always a totalitarian ideology, a constitutional republic at least gives people A CHANCE for freedom. "In sum the communist probably have murdered something like 110,000,000, or near two-thirds of all those killed by all governments, quasi-governments, and guerrillas from 1900 to 1987. Of course, the world total itself it shocking. It is several times the 38,000,000 battle-dead that have been killed in all this century's international and domestic wars. Yet the probable number of murders by the Soviet Union alone--one communist country-- well surpasses this cost of war. And those murders of communist China almost equal it. " https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTMhttps://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.TAB16A.1.GIF |
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Democracy is a unicorn.
What do you mean by that? A unicorn is a mythical creature... Though I don't agree. Pure Democracy is real, it is called mob rule. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka8XJPr8gecHow much longer do you think people will tolerate this before a full fledged civil war breaks out? FYI, they say he was shot with a "less lethal" munition, which is technically accurate, but from what I understand it was actually a flash bang grenade of some type he was shot directly in the head with. OFC those are not designed to be less lethal with direct impact to the head...
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That's the philosophical and practical basis of the US Democratic Party. Read the writings of Chomsky, as I suggested. It's all there.
And yes, it's incredibly elitist and arrogant.
Would you have any precise examples? I've read a few articles/extracts and it does seem interesting as the man seems to have quite a real "outside the box" thinking, but he just wrote far too much things for me to read it all right now xD I'd appreciate your advice on the 2-3 best essais of the man. Here we are again, you want to be right but you don't want to do any of the work required to get there. Try "Manufacturing Consent", that is if you can manage to read a whole book without bursting into flames. |
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Are you the real RidleyReport? If so thanks for all the great work you do! If you guys don't know who he is check him out on youtube.
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Strange how obtaining some jewish scientists was all it took for a dirt poor country to become the most technologically advanced in the world. Its almost as if some sort of system and organization was in place that allowed them to take advantage of that expertise and mobilze production in order to quickly advance.
What in the fuck are you rambling about now? Is this yet another extended distraction from the genocide of hundreds of millions Communism is responsible for? Of course it is! |
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This thread is really just anger that males may have to actually be accountable for their actions and fear of a world where they can no longer behave with impunity. I like that miss America pageant no longer has a swimsuit competition yet 25% of the state winners end up working in Asia or the Middle East as party girls. Talk about hypocracy  Well I guess girls will be girls. The movie crazy rich Asians has a scene on a boat for a bachelor party with a ton of hot contestant girls. This is a very common practice. Their efforts to reduce itemization of women and the existing demand for commodified women is not hypocrisy. As long as there is uneven opportunity in the workforce, one cannot blame women for accepting their role in patriarchal society and taking these sorts of opportunities. Yeah, MEN are unaccountable huh? I guess that's why men go to prison at a rate over 10x more than women, are about 80% of the homeless, and are falling behind in every stage of education. Take your postmodernist horse shit and shove it. You wanna be a eunuch, fine, but you don't get to dictate to the rest of the real men who run society for your pansy collectivist ass. If you feel I am wrong, feel free to bring some facts (I won't hold my breath), otherwise go fuck yourself with your Communist horse shit. |
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The Richest man known to the Public is getting a divorce from his wife of 26 years. The Amazon founder, Jeff Bezos is worth over $100 billion. This whole thing is probably just a ruse so they can sell off stock without causing a panic.
Quoted from Reddit:
"Reminds me of the enron exec:
Lou Pai divorced his wife for a stripper so the court forced him to sell his Enron shares. no market changes since nobody suspected anything was wrong other than the dude messed up his marriage. he couldn't be prosecuted for insider trading because the court forced the sale of his shares. If you wanted to liquidate a good portion of your assets without affecting the market, this is a good way to do it. We are talking about a master strategist here, married to a high IQ woman. This would not be outside of his character.
however, assets for cash doesn’t affect net worth at all. It’s impossible to consume that much money. No amount of fancy dinners or private jet fuel or deep-sea expeditions or cocaine is going to blow through a sum like that.
there have been interviews with bezos in the past few years where he talks about how he sees what he’s doing with blue origin being much more important than amazon, so if his wife feels the same way about blue origin then it could be a way to get it the funding it needs.
Even if the stocks weren’t liquidated. It would mean that Bezos and his ex-wife would be the two most powerful voting members on Amazon’s board. Which is one more vote that didn’t exist previously."
Interesting. I had not considered that. This makes a lot of sense. The stock market is about to implode, time for the top tier to hand over the bags. |
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