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6081  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 100% 9/11 was done by the USA government bush and crew and still they go on.. on: December 11, 2018, 04:26:59 PM
And Professor Stephen Jones and a colleague proved it was nano-thermite. Nano-thermite is a tiny-sized form of thermite that can do a tremendously great amount of destructive force for a small amount of thermite.

Youtube search on "Stephen Jones thermite."

Cool

The buildings were weakened with directed energy, there was some explosive work but none that could make it go free fall speed. Essentially the metal was altered at the molecular level, forgive me if that sounds dumb I'm not a physicist.

LOL!

People like you and Doktor Judy Woods are the reason conspiracies are laughed at..

Sure, they weakened the steel with phasers lol  Roll Eyes

All they needed was thermite, thats what we found in the debris. Why go on about bullshit that can't be proven to even exist? Dr. Woods is a paid agent, she's spreading disinformation and so are you.

As some one who was an adult when it happened expecting an event like this to happen, I can tell you at one point the thermate theory was laughed at just as heartily and condemned as being too far fetched. I am not saying she is right or wrong, but what I suggest you do is focus less on that, and more on the physics which offer all the proof in the world.
6082  Other / Politics & Society / Re: French stupid protestors refuse violence... Grow some balls! on: December 11, 2018, 04:21:56 PM
Violence against whom? Their own countrymen? You want a civil war? Frankly, as a man from a country based on rebellion, I am proud that France, and Europe to a larger degree is standing up for itself finally. Honestly I had wrote Europe off has having just given up and consigned to its fate as a Eurabian Union dictatorship.

I am glad Europe is finally standing up, though it may be too late. There is no need for violence, at least at this stage, it would be counter productive. Hurting people wouldn't make anything better. What they are doing however is scaring the SHIT out of their leadership, and you know that old saying...

When the government fears the people you have freedom, when the people fear the government you have tyranny.

GO YELLOW VESTS! GO FRANCE! GO EUROPE!!!
6083  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: December 10, 2018, 09:03:18 PM
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They're not going to try to impeach him, that would literally be political suicide for this new house. I mean go ahead -- but that's a dumb idea without any evidence/grounds to impeach him on.

I'll just go ahead and assume, Trump's own DOJ naming the POTUS a multiple felon isn't a reason to impeach him right?  I mean who cares it's just a little campaign finance felony right?

Trump is literally the most impeachable POTUS in American history and the liberal cucks are more scared of the political hit than getting a fucking criminal out of the WH...


The dems are just waiting until January. The minority doesn't have the power to impeach. GOP would just block the vote entirely.

No kidding eh?...

The DOJ has called their own POTUS a multiple felon and the liberal cucks are still saying well we need to wait for Mueller.  No one know's how long Mueller is from finishing up...  Stone, Corsi, Ivanka, Jr and who ever else, we still have no info from Mueller on these people so it could be X-mas 2019 still waiting for Baby Jesus Mueller, while a named multiple felon sits in the WH and the dems do fuck all cause scurred.  The dude is named as a multiple FELON, could you imagine the uproar from the right if ANY democratic president was a DOJ named FELON... 

The dems are a bunch of pussies they should be fighting tooth and nail Jan 4th to do the right thing and get a criminal out of the WH...  They have a constitutional duty to check and balance the executive branch and they need to get this out in the open, Americans deserve to know what in the actual fuck is going on.  It's the only way the dems have a chance of turning his base against him is to just dump an overwhelming amount of evidence on them.

Now that Trump is a DOJ named FELON there is no need for 1753 committee investigations just open the one big one and let the people know if this pussy grabber is guilty of at least these felons or not. 

They should have about 312 articles of impeachment ready to go by now!

Just goes to show you don't have any idea how the legal system here works but are ready to claim authority and knowledge of the process all day to support your opinions, because having strong opinions is all that matters right?

You say "Trump is a DOJ named FELON", but the DOJ doesn't just get to declare people criminals. Especially since the DOJ is part of the executive branch, of which Trump is the head of. It would be like a regional manager of McDonalds telling the CEO he is now in charge.

You said yourself he is not convicted of anything. Without conviction, or at least some matter of fact hard evidence you are advocating we unseat a sitting president? Could it be perhaps maybe that YOU were the one who was wrong, and he is in fact the one resisting the coup? Nah, everyone knows you are never wrong. That's what the mod button is for Wink
6084  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 100% 9/11 was done by the USA government bush and crew and still they go on.. on: December 10, 2018, 03:35:33 PM
I think the greatest evidence against it being faked it the sheer size of the lie. To have kept that secret would require a huge amount of administration and not a single chain breaking.

Its called compartmentalization. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. Anyone who wants to be a hero and talk about it ends up dead, and there were many mysterious witness deaths.

Look up the Manhattan project where THOUSANDS of people knew about it and kept it secret. While you are at it look up how they kept AN ENTIRE TOWN in Oak Ridge Tennessee a secret. That's right its entire existence was a secret.

That "you could never keep a secret" trope is an old, stale, and stupid way to end your thought process when you want to maintain your delusions about the world. 9/11 did not go down the way the official story purported, and the laws of physics prove it.
6085  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 100% 9/11 was done by the USA government bush and crew and still they go on.. on: December 10, 2018, 02:43:01 AM
I support popcorn1 the US Government has been doing this for centuries  "Republic of Texas, Maine incident,  Gulf of Tonkin incident, World trade center attacks and so on" the US Government is willing to sacrifice any lives for the greater good?

The U.S. Government is made up of loads of people. Most of them would never do the things you mentioned. So, is it the Government? Or is it simply some people using their Government position to do bad stuff, and propagandize/brainwash us into believing it was Government?

Cool

The "government" is not monolithic. In fact the US government is specifically designed to have several autonomous self checking functions. Unfortunately some of those people used government resources to do some pretty horrible traitorous things. This doesn't mean the entire government top down endorses it.
6086  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Planting cannabis for self consumption. on: December 09, 2018, 06:52:15 PM
For example, in the US in many states it is legal. However in most of those states, with a few exceptions, you are still not legally allowed to grow your own at home, even if for personal use. They want to make sure they get every drop of tax revenue after all.
6087  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lawsuit for concentration camp death on: December 09, 2018, 05:39:28 PM
That is sad and heartbreaking I hate those concentration camps that is not what America stands for. I still believe in this words "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

True, these words are legendary.

You mean on the Statue of Liberty on Ellis Island when we had more immigration controls than today, they had to fill out paper work, and spend a few weeks on the island for medical quarantine, I mean "concentration camps"? Sound like a bunch of Nazis to me!
6088  Other / Politics & Society / REEE: Lawsuit for concentration camp death on: December 09, 2018, 12:03:22 AM
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I am sure you would prefer the whole internet be sanitized from ideas you dislike like they do on Facebook and Twitter, but most of us don't...



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its almost like... we should secure our borders so none of this would happen to begin with...
6089  Other / Archival / Re: Do you support arming taiwan? on: December 08, 2018, 11:48:28 PM
China is coming for us anyway, just a matter of time.
6090  Economy / Goods / Re: MYSTERY BOXES - YOU'LL LIKE THE WAY YOU LOOK - I GUARANTEE IT! on: December 08, 2018, 09:27:44 PM
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6091  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CFO of Chinese tech giant Huawei arrested in Canada for extradition to the US on: December 08, 2018, 04:45:19 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-07/canadian-prosecutors-warn-huawei-cfo-flight-risk-whose-bail-couldnt-be-high-enough

Good article with some detail on the charges.
6092  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CFO of Chinese tech giant Huawei arrested in Canada for extradition to the US on: December 08, 2018, 03:14:27 PM
So the USA is stealing technology from China? Yeah ok lol. I don't think the USA is without fault, but if you think the US is more of a threat than China you are quite a dope. China barely even pretends to have human rights, or rights at all for that matter.

Don't think it's a joke. It's true. Don't think the USA is clean. The United States has been trying to get information about China's hydrogen bomb manufacturing technology and face recognition technology.

I admit that China has been stealing Western technology and is more threatening than the United States, but the United States did something wrong with the arrest of Huawei executives. In any case, the United States should compete with China for technology (hacker war) rather than abuse judicial means, which seems very bad.

America should fight a war between men with China, not kidnap other people's daughters.

For Canada, I know they are hard to choose, but when two tigers fight, the wise man will only stand by and help none.

That is called military intelligence, not espionage. They know how to make hydrogen bombs in the US for a while now lol. Huawei is nothing but an intelligence/spying arm of the Communist party. We all know the state controls industry in China, therefore Huawei is a defacto arm of the state. Also the person they grabbed is the child of a very high level Communist party official. I don't think this was a mistake. This is the US saying two can play at your game.

The US is doing this within the law, while China snatches up people and disappears them constantly on the flimsiest of pretexts. China is getting more and more aggressive, not just with the US but other smaller surrounding nations that can't defend against them. China is getting too big for its britches and needs to be checked.
6093  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CFO of Chinese tech giant Huawei arrested in Canada for extradition to the US on: December 08, 2018, 01:25:55 AM
Lol. China has been stealing technology from the US systematically for ages. They recently also got exposed hiding back door chips in their hardware, though I believe that was another company. In the end though they all represent the state. Regardless I have no problems with the assumption they were involved in espionage or sanctions issues as it seems perfectly logical. I think the sanctions issue though is probably just cover for arresting her to get information and or leverage over espionage. China kidnaps people constantly. Not saying I think this is ok for either side but they don't have too much room to point fingers here after kidnapping an active INTERPOL president and just disappearing him.

America probably also does everything you've just accused China of.

So the USA is stealing technology from China? Yeah ok lol. I don't think the USA is without fault, but if you think the US is more of a threat than China you are quite a dope. China barely even pretends to have human rights, or rights at all for that matter.
6094  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 100% 9/11 was done by the USA government bush and crew and still they go on.. on: December 07, 2018, 02:38:15 PM
There are so many topics up for debate about this subject. The laws of physics however are not up for debate concerning this topic. The ONLY way to explain the series of events that day was the use of explosive force.
6095  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CFO of Chinese tech giant Huawei arrested in Canada for extradition to the US on: December 07, 2018, 02:35:53 PM
Lol. China has been stealing technology from the US systematically for ages. They recently also got exposed hiding back door chips in their hardware, though I believe that was another company. In the end though they all represent the state. Regardless I have no problems with the assumption they were involved in espionage or sanctions issues as it seems perfectly logical. I think the sanctions issue though is probably just cover for arresting her to get information and or leverage over espionage. China kidnaps people constantly. Not saying I think this is ok for either side but they don't have too much room to point fingers here after kidnapping an active INTERPOL president and just disappearing him.
6096  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Shoot The Shit About American Politics on: December 07, 2018, 02:27:22 PM
Pretty much all conservatives everywhere. Rofl.

That is an interesting criticism from a Marxist that literally requires victim hood and victim status to push any of your ideologies.
6097  Economy / Goods / Re: MYSTERY BOXES - YOU'LL LIKE THE WAY YOU LOOK - I GUARANTEE IT! on: December 07, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
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6098  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Gender dysphoria & ''Age dysphoria''? on: December 05, 2018, 06:19:43 PM
That Dutch guy is obviously just trolling, but he's also making a good point about the ridiculous gender fluid people who claim to be different genders every other day. If they can identify as non-binary or whatever they want then why can't he identify as a younger person. Obviously it's silly but so is claiming to be something that you're not which seems to be the case in a lot instances where people claim to be something other than what they were assigned with at birth. And just to confirm, I'm not talking about genuine cases of gender dysphoria and trans people who do actually change their gender, but the other people who just want attention and something else to be offended about when you accidentally 'missgender' them.

That Dutch guy does look good for his age, though  Grin.

The same applies for race and other well defined words. What's the point of ''identifying'' as any race/gender/age you want? It's like saying I identify as a black truck driver because I ''feel'' like it. It's nonsense and borderline insanity.

Technically it is a collective narcissistic hysteria combined with normalization and enabling of each others behavior, largely with Postmodernist Critical Theory as the source. It is an attempt to give Marxist ideologies a superficial facade of science. Under cultural Marxism there is a victim class and a ruling class, and the victim class is therefore "justified" in victimizing the "ruling class" in order to bring about "equality". Really all this is, is a feedback loop of people victimizing each other while justifying it by pretending to protect them.
6099  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NPR's Border Fact Check on: December 05, 2018, 06:12:18 PM
Of course any large group of people would have some crime but all evidence suggests this immigrants have a lower crime rate.  Most people are raped by someone close to them.  Where is your outcry about the Catholic church being allowed in this country?  Nowhere, because that would be silly.  Somehow, the same logic is fine when used against poor people from central America.  

Your argument is worse than saying "lets ban childbirth because some of those children will inevitably grow up to rape". The reason the childbirth strawman would make more sense than your actual argument is because it would be safe to assume our children would commit crime at the similar rate as their parents which is much higher than that of the immigrants.  Take that in...Allowing our own citizens to have children results in more rapists than allowing immigrants to enter.  

Forget all that though because we don't convict populations for crimes and we certainly don't convict individuals for crimes that haven't been committed yet.  This sure is a lot of authoritarianism for someone who's entire world view revolves around fear of dictatorship.  We don't take a machete approach to solving problems.  


Immigrants? I am talking about ILLEGAL immigrants, but of course you would gloss over some thing like that in an attempt to make the most extremist interpretation as it serves you. Would love to see you source that. I have evidence to the contrary.

What about... what about... what about... we stick to the topic.

Your mental gymnastics here are an impressive display of a combination willful ignorance and Hegelian dialectic. You are just stringing key words together at this point in some desperate attempt to appear like you have an argument.

I am not convicting anyone here. it is a fact there is more crime and therefore more criminals in Mexico. No matter how hard you try to cast it as a racial thing it doesn't change the fact of the state of the nation and those around it.

Tell me, how do you think those nations will get any better with all of its brightest leaving for the US? Perhaps the benevolent Socialist Western dictators will grace them with more hand outs?




I cannot name one because it is the same people that carry out blood and conquest who are obsessed with dividing the planet into political borders in the first place.  How would the guilt be misplaced?  We wiped out all of those nations through genocide and replaced their borders.  Many of these indigenous peoples welcomed outsiders as their own.   Thats how we got here.

Saying nations shouldn't exist would be a stretch.  We definitely shouldn't have borders for the sake of saying who is allowed to move around the planet the planet.  Borders have useful applications but violating human rights isn't one of them.   The concept of borders being used to imprison entire populations is relatively new and useful for those who aim to divide and conquer.  I certainly would not like one global government because I don't think centralized power is either necessary or ethical.

This should actually be classified as "premodern" because mass migration is undeniably human nature.  I'm not even sure if you believe in all of these systems that exist today.  Most people follow them just because thats the way they have always known them.  If they were wiped away and you had to remake them, there is no way you would end up with anything similar.  There is nothing natural about them.


So the people that formed borders hundreds if not thousands of years ago are alive still? Interesting. Didn't you just get done saying...

"Forget all that though because we don't convict populations for crimes and we certainly don't convict individuals for crimes that haven't been committed yet."

You don't convict populations, unless it is convenient for your argument. Some how modern people are responsible for the actions of their ancestors, and they are guilty for crimes their ancestors committed.

THAT'S HOW WE ALL GOT HERE. I am not going to cut my throat over the guilt of existing, and fuck you for cutting the throats of others with your malignant narcissism.


"Saying nations shouldn't exist would be a stretch.  We definitely shouldn't have borders for the sake of saying who is allowed to move around the planet the planet."

This is you advocating for the end of all nations. Without borders there are no nations. Without national sovereignty to decide this, having a "nation" is meaningless. of course that is the idea right? You claim you don't want global government but you advocate for the destruction of everything that makes a nation a nation, and inherently create a condition under which global government would form as a result. You are duplicitous.

I see, now you are getting all relativist over your relativism so you can make things relative some more. Do you ever just look at yourself and be like  "wow I go through an awful lot of rationalization over redefining words to fit my predetermined ideas about the world around me?" Now you want to redefine Postmodernism so it doesn't apply to you, and sounds progressive and evolved in a 100% superficial and sophistic way.



What law are you talking about?  Coming to the US to seek asylum is completely legal regardless of how you got here.  You actually have one year to seek asylum after you arrive.  "8 U.S. Code § 1158 - Asylum" is the law that permits it.  Why do you think the ACLU is all over this?  Why do you think organizations like border angels are spending most of their resources on legal consultation and representation for migrants?

1. No evidence of this. The main problem is that racist are not, you are overgeneralizing the population.   The subset of the population desperate to leave are not the people benefiting from the crime and lawlessness.  Thats just logical.   The people benefiting from the lawlessness are not the ones walking thousands of miles to seek a better life with more legitimate opportunities.  Re: "Illegal immigrants are 44 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. Legal immigrants are 69 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. Legal and illegal immigrants are underrepresented in the incarcerated population while natives are overrepresented."
https://www.politifact.com/california/statements/2017/aug/03/antonio-villaraigosa/mostly-true-undocumented-immigrants-less-likely-co/

2. Are they spiking our drinks or shoving it down our throats?

3. see 1

4. see 1

5.  Not relevant.  Even if you stop immigration, you don't stop the massive amount of routine travel back and forth between the two countries.  No one screens college kids coming back from spring break either.   So lets get everyone here proper screening and make sure we have herd immunity.  That way everyone here will be covered.   If  disease is a problem, you fight disease, not people .  

6.  Its an investment as they will pay back more than they take out.  Even a selfish person should want more educated people in the population.  No one is arguing there isn't a big upfront investment.  You could argue about the opportunity cost of that investment, but I don't see any better spending taking place.  We could always bomb another country or give GM more money to lay people off.  Unlike dropping bombs, this is spending that will actually build productive lives.  Its both beneficial in the long run and the right thing to do.  Paying for schools with property taxes is a horrible system to begin with though.

7. Because terrorists used planes to attack us. TSA is guarding the planes not the border.  Thats why when you go through TSA to get to Detroit, they aren't protecting Detroit from bad people, they are protecting the planes from people.  The southern border isn't going to make it onto any "how terrorist attacks happen" list.  Again, see 1.  If you wanted to disregard ethics in the all-out effort to prevent terror attacks, you'd probably ship out all of the white men first.  


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There are so many more but these are just some of the basics. I look forward to your accusations of racism and heartlessness as you advocate the victimization of the people of the US in favor of hordes of migrants looking for handouts.
I'm glad you acknowledge most of this came directly out of the racist playbook.


1. So they are fleeing crime, but there is no less crime there? https://www.gao.gov/assets/320/316959.pdf

2. It is interesting you use the term "spiked", because that is exactly what is happening. Spiking a drink for example is commonly known as adding one drug to another drug to dose a person with it without their knowledge. You know the epidemic of "heroin overdoses" we have been having? The vast majority of them are as a result of drug dealers cutting heroin with Fentanyl because it is cheaper and more potent. So now when a heroin user used the heroin, thinking they are taking a normal dose, will actually be taking a lethal dose because they don't know it contains Fentanyl. There is a difference between killing yourself and some one dosing you without your kowledge.

3. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/when-rape-culture-meets-impunity-how-the-mexican_us_5907887ae4b084f59b49fb8e
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/30/mexico-rape-victim-details-wealth-politics-impunity-corruption

4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

5. It is absolutely relevant. First of all tourists are vaccinated and have had access to comparably exceptional healthcare. Second of all, they have a right to be here as citizens, as well as travel abroad if the destination nation does so allow. You act as if living with substandard sanitation, healthcare, and vaccinations will have no impact on the number of communicable diseases one has and will carry. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2873746/

6. You have no evidence to support this. Additionally educated compared to where? Their home or here? You are inventing benefits to illegal immigration that don't exist. "big upfront investment" You don't have any idea the scope of what you are talking about. This is national default levels of debt in a time when we are already drowning in debt. What about... what about... what about... we stay on topic.

7. It has already been documented terrorists are entering using the Southern border. Just because that attack they used planes some how makes it impossible for them to enter on foot or by car or boat? Nice logic.

"If you wanted to disregard ethics in the all-out effort to prevent terror attacks, you'd probably ship out all of the white men first."

I thought you said I was the racist one. You are the only one talking about skin color here.
6100  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian act of war on: December 05, 2018, 03:04:27 PM
Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia)Ukranian vessels were trespassing the waters of Russia so it was Ukrania that did an act of war. (I'm not pro Russia) I'm just saying that Ukrainians already lost some territories to Russia why try to recover it?



Uhhhh; Ukraine and Russia had a joint treaty over that water way. A country just can't lay claims to something covered by a treaty arbitrarily. The fact that Russia violated a treaty means that they're entirely at fault for this incident.

Where do you even get your newspropaganda from?

That's right! They have a joint treaty over a SHARED waterway, where at some point, the Ukrainian border ends and the Russian border begins. They crossed the border as defined in that agreement.
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