It seems to me that more serious domestic issues have just been sealed up here in the USA that has now freed up resources to pay more attention to what is going on in Venezuela. While I want Venezuela to be autonomous as well, Maduro is a scumbag, and in spite of me having no trust for them the CIA is not monolithic.

Some times intervention can be helpful if there is a light hand. I think the real issues come when it becomes an issue of dominating, creating endless wars, and removing national sovereignty. We only ever witness the shit shows. There have to be plenty of other successful interventions we have never even heard of.

Yeah why should we pay any attention to the uncontrolled insane violent mobbing of children by leftists being puppeted and wound up by television and other media? No what is important is the Russia story that we some how haven't been able to produce any evidence of after 2 years of investigation.

The protest is a non-story. The media 2 minutes of hate is the story, and it is quite convenient for the left to declare everyone ignore their unhinged behavior completely detached from reality as they condemn the right for all the same things.





Well then you haven't bothered to read the thread have you? Just because you willfully ignore documented factual information does not make it less real. Your clams of blackface have already been addressed, and it was proven already as a "white vs blue" sporting event and had nothing to do with race. Of course you ignored that post too, because you are only interested in information that supports your existing belief system.

The rest of your rambling is nothing more than your highly indoctrinated and bias opinions, and is again a view into the insane window the left views people they don't agree with through in an attempt to dehumanize and unperson them. The media and the left ABSOLUTELY are responsible for threats, hatred, harassment, and the passing on of false information as well as the continual unwillingness to admit fault as you are doing this very moment.





This fits you to a fucking T. I honestly can't think of anyone else more conditioned and brainwashed that I have come in contact with than you (assuming you aren't on the job that is). No joke. Every thought you have is thru the lens of leftist Marxist Postmodernist context. You don't get it. The "capitalists" control the communists, the people you think are your saviors are the controlled opposition. I never said anything about always, you did. The inherently collectivist left does what it is told by the glowing box, even if it says to threaten children, this event is proof. The left have no more credibility. The MSM has no more credibility. Either admit it and accept reality, or keep pretending the world will perpetually tolerate your violent delusional mobbing behavior and see how that turns out for you.

Just putting a system in place is not enough because the system is able to be abused. I don't expect or even want Theymos to be the arbiter of everything around here, and he has made it pretty clear he doesn't want that either. That doesn't mean he can't simply set up a standard protocol for using the rating system that he expects the users to follow, such as requiring a standard of evidence for negative ratings.

This doesn't mean Theymos needs to be involved in every dispute, it just means it solves a large amount of disputes before they even happen and also gives the trust system a boost in actual credibility by increasing its accuracy by reducing noise. We all want more decentralization, but the reality is this forum is very centralized, bringing us full circle back to Theymos.

This is a perfect example of the noise that is introduced into the trust system that makes it impossible for the people it was designed to protect, to tell who they can trust with funds. I know you are trying to help Jet Cash, but all this ends up doing is drowning out real con artists in the cacophony of negative ratings over nothing giving them cover, while creating endless conflict over what ratings are ok.

Notice the standard operating procedure of attacking the person, claims of alts, and making veiled accusations/threats of inquisition rather than addressing the subject matter.  



Not at all the same. The difference is I just explained in detail why this is the case, in addition to oh what, 5 years of history of this to reference since the trust system was implemented? You are pointing to a hypothetical. I am referencing current reality.



Notice how they all close ranks around the talking point of "opinions" now that they feel there is a gap in my argument they can exploit to discredit my points.

This is not just an opinion. Either the trust system is for trade or it isn't. It is supposedly a guide for noobs to use as an easy reference. Now you argue that those noobs have the knowledge to determine the difference between some one who has never been trusted with funds and those who have under this ambiguity. Your own arguments are contradictory, not mine. Acting like a track record of handling funds well is equivalent to being popular on the internet in regards to noobs trusting people with funds is asinine and shows a fundamental ignorance of how con artists work.

There is no reason that neutral ratings can not be used for these unconfirmed issues, suspicions, etc, and plenty to lose in terms of harassment, mobs, intimidation, and just general steamrolling behavior because no one is willing to devote the time or resources to check their behavior. There is no one to watch the watchers so to speak, and Theymos has clearly indicated he is not interested in taking up this role. The most logical conclusion is to set up a protocol that minimizes the damages of this scenario by outlining a very strict rubric for acceptable negative ratings.

Try global revolution.

Your first statement is neither a fact nor an argument. It is at best your opinion. Just more hypothetical waxing poetic about more sky falling rhetoric.

People are free to build their reputation in all kinds of ways. They should not be entitled to abuse a system designed to protect noobs engaging in transactions to make themselves look as if they are trustworthy with funds when all they do is go around stalking users and harassing them with their specific interpretation of the rules while the mob stands by and throws gas on the fire.

Either the trust system ratings are primarily for trade or they aren't. If they aren't then it is just a meaningless joke of a popularity contest that will only serve as cover for con artists to use perpetually to rip people off because they can just keep buying/hacking accounts.

Without trade there is no risk. Without risk there is no trust. Without trust it ceases to be a gauge of who is trustworthy and serves only as a system of nepotism and might making right.

No please. This will be used as a tool to pester people. Removes privacy and unnecessary. Just check when they last logged in.

Considering that like 90% of the media is owned by about 6 corporations, it kind of is.

Yes, lets get away from the actual topic of discussion about how Democrats are obstructionist failures so I  can use this as an opportunity to me make numerous unsubstantiated claims and accusations against those I do not agree with. Oh, I almost forgot, NAZI HITLER NAZI! There we go.

What nation are you from Chief Judges Fromafar?

So you care about threats to lives over the internet all of a sudden? I see there is no objection to all the threats to the lives of these children for literally doing nothing more than wearing a MAGA hats in a group. You make lots of claims but you have zero evidence to support them.

You know what I said was not a threat, but instead of having an exchange, as with this story itself, you jump right on to obfuscating the truth and trying to mischaracterize the situation to benefit your preferred narrative. You do this because you have no regard for anyone but yourself, as your behavior demonstrates no matter how vociferously you deny it.

You can ignore reality forever, but you can't ignore the results of ignoring reality forever. This game you play where you tell yourself whatever you want to hear all the time has to stop. This continual unwillingness to do due diligence and just repeat what some one told you is dangerous to everyone, even and especially to people like you.

Effectively you and your friends have become behaviorally conditioned puppets of the corporate mainstream media. One day they are going to dance you right into a bloodbath. Being a puppet is a choice.

It isn't, but it should be. He was warned about all this when the trust system began but he ignored it in favor of more additions to the system further obfuscating the symptoms but not addressing the cause. I know he views himself as some kind of Anarcho-capitalist... but this is childish. You can't run a place like this, this big without some BASIC rules like the rest of the forum has.

I know he doesn't have the time or care to enforce every little thing, and nor should he and his staff have to. However since the beginning the trust system has had nothing but continual high level conflict resulting from it. Honestly I am not sure if he really wants decentralization or just the image of it based on the series of events revolving around the trust.

A standard of evidence, a violation of a contractual agreement, or a law being violated, should be the determining factors for judging a negative rating valid. I don't think we can rightly expect the staff to constantly be the ones to enforce this, but at the same time unless this rule is top down universal, none of these issues will ever be fixed. This is not just a logistical conflict, it is an ideological one. We all want more decentralization, but the reality is this is an inherently centralized place, and as a result nearly all of the authority originates from one place, Theymos.

Then you won't mind if we throw you on the pile first right?




Ok great. If you are producing evidence of a crime or a violation of a contractual agreement between users, negative rate away, that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about this fast gunning, frivolous, assembly line, OCD use of ratings as they are now, left for every petty disagreement and things people don't like here.

Ultimately all it does is serve to make it EASIER for the real cons because they can hide in the chaos and noise while you go after the "pajeet" scammers. Then after all is said and done we are still left with a huge amount of conflict, disagreement, and fraud as well as a lot of innocent users swept up in it. It is counterproductive.

You don't see how it increases somebody's profile? Tell me, there are some members here that have done little to no trading here yet have stacks of great ratings. What are the majority of them related to? Right "scam busting". Real or not quite so real, it doesn't make much of a difference to some of them... it all makes them look more valuable, and there is no penalty to being wrong for them.

Also people like me pointing this out potentially takes away their easy faucet of influence, which is why you see some of these people come after myself and other long trusted members of this forum who dare to point out this dynamic. It is not like there are a lot of people here with this much reputation that they are willing to put on the line to be potentially taken by these people, and anyone without reputation saying it is easily dismissed as a con artist.

How do you expect them to extract any ransom without hostages?

I really hope the left is paying attention here. This event in itself is not very consequential, but is a very clear symptom of the state of modern society, not just in the US but world wide. A similar dynamic is at play all over the globe. The message is clear.

Unless you abandon this mission to maintain your own version of reality in spite of all the information being handed to you to prove otherwise, you are going to walk this nation and the world right into civil war. I promise you there is no scenario under which the left will win. You will be held down and fucked hard no matter who is the victor. It is time to end the LAARPing and make the difficult turn toward the medicine of reality. This is do or die time folks. Make the right choice or bathe in the blood of your own friends and family. You are going after people's children now out in the open. How long do you think this will be tolerated? What comes after that?

Related Video:

"#CovingtonGate: We Are Entering The Real CIVIL WAR 2.0"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YX1v3IhYRk

That is certainly valid advice, but again it is reduced to the same problem, it is completely subjective, and if it serves the interest of "forum cops" by increasing their profile and influence then there is an explicit conflict of interest inherent.

The problem with the ever expanding list of what people deem negative rateable, is that in a lot of these cases there is no evidence, it is left to the judgement of the individual. So essentially you have a bunch of people running around as judge jury and executioner with no recourse for those swept up in it wrongfully. In the end all this results in is making the negative ratings meaningless anyway giving cover for actual indisputable fraud. You don't have to like it or agree with it, that doesn't mean you should negative rate over it.

This whole "well what about this and what about this" game is simply an attempt at making it look like the sky will fall if we don't have a huge nanny state full of wanna be forum cops shotgunning negative ratings. Freedom and security are exclusive concepts, and your goal of absolute security is unattainable. Lets stick to what can and should be enforced and leave the nitpicking to the lice infested before these trust mobs demand rectal inspections before they give you permission to use the forum uninhibited.

I am sure a lot of you like me tried really hard to ignore this situation as it was clearly a non-story, but the way the MSM has been covering it, the fact that it is a non-story has itself become a story.

This event was very telling of how willing the media is to lie and scream racism at the expense of causing children and their families to be mobbed, threatened, and harassed based on no evidence and how the irrational psychotic hatred manifests from the left for anyone they see simply supporting Trump.

In their mind the only way you could ever support him is if you are an active card carrying member of the KKK with a full swastika tattoo on your chest, therefore violence is justified. After all he is Hitler, and his followers are Nazis, so it is only just to stop them with violence isn't it? This event just showed how eager the left is to kill when the media tells them to. This is symptomatic of a very dangerous and serious trend not just in the US, but world wide.


Some related links you might want to look at:


The actual people yelling racial slurs, Black Israelites, a known open supremacist group:

https://youtu.be/pJujmh0cC18?t=3998


The woman who accused them of harasing her earlier spitting out endless racial slurs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be7xDHb8Xao


More video angles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zql3QKa6FZg


Some of the threats directed at these kids:




This was a message to anyone who is still interested in facts and truth. Do what we say or we are coming for you.

That's why I took the time to link it, so you could figure out the meaning in your native language, but you still didn't bother to read it. At least we are on the same page now though eh?