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I thought he is, but I have removed my feedback since he apologized and his other feedback doesn't have anything that could show he would do something malicious.
Ok, he made apology and *puf* - he is not abusing trust system any more.  Wow, 3 votes against in like 10 minutes. Seems like Lauda used some multies  Right...I can literally say this for you - iluvbitcoins, shibewow, account from 2012...sorry, not correct order of accounts
Welcome to DT, btw. I am out of this thread.If you haven't realized yet, people remove feedbacks for non-scam "crimes"quite often after a certain period of time has passed. He has removed the 'abused' feedback. What if a scammer returned the stolen bitcoins? Would we still neg him or reward him for returning the BTC? What's your point? |
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How can we see another scammer around the forum with an old bought account if the account was never sold?
How can we see that you didn't sell it?
Do you think TP is not abusing trust system? A friend of mine is using it currently. I can show it to a trusted individual in private. I thought he is, but I have removed my feedback since he apologized and his other feedback doesn't have anything that could show he would do something malicious. |
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https://prnt.sc/laul0vWhat is keeping you from tagging it? We don't want to see another scammer running around the forum with old bought account trying to scam someone.
Other than this I really don't want to comment anything. How can we see another scammer around the forum with an old bought account if the account was never sold? |
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I wouldn't. That's why there's risk involved.
Ok. Why would you even bring it up then? Because you said there's no risk in it. The risk is you sending first, which isn't entirely clear from your trust ratings because you didn't post references. So is this correct then? - All your PayPal trades where you sent PP and left positive trust were F&F.
- You went first in all your PayPal trades where you sent PP and left positive trust.
I would say most of them were F&F, I can't be 100% sure for deals that happened a couple years back, so I'm going to revise the deals tommorow morning (already did some today). Not in all of them but in the older ones certainly (since I was a trustless newbie). Now that iluvbitcoins finally explicitly stated they would not engage in fraud I'm gonna have to take their word for it.
So, I've escrowed a million $ in an anonymous cryptocurrency but you had to have me say I wouldn't engage in PayPal fraud before you could trust me? |
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Then there was no risk for iluvbitcoins in the transaction and the positive ratings should not have been posted.
Unless I don't want to claim unauthorized acces when it didn't happen? Have you ever done this? No
If you sent first - yes, but that has nothing to do with PayPal. Why would you defraud PayPal to get your money back?
I wouldn't. That's why there's risk involved. |
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You guys just made my point by grasping straws in order to paint me in a negative light!! In order to reverse an F&F transaction I'd need to claim unauthorized access! If I've sent an F&F transaction and I don't receive BTC, I've been scammed! You've just proven there's risk in that transaction and completely annihilated your own point!! Hahah The other person takes the risk and may decide to leave a positive rating for you. A false claim of unauthorized access in an F&F transaction is not a "risk", it's fraud.  |
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I've been slandering? And you've just claimed I blackmailed you HAHAH I've just posted all the 3 PMs I've sent you. Let's let the users decide for themselves whether or not that's blackmail. If I sent F&F first there is still risk in the transaction!
Since I need to claim unauthorized access in order to charge back if scammed and that easily results in account suspension if found out to be a lie.
Read first, be rude later.
You received the BTC. Where is the risk? So I take it as a "yes" then. You would falsely claim a hack/unauthorized access to reverse a F&F transaction. You just said I was sending bitcoins, how am I receiving them? Can you first have a talk with yourself in order to decide what you want to say? Now you're starting to annoy me. It is an explanation on why there's 'risk' in that transaction and you know it yourself! If I wrote there isnt' any risk for the sender in an I&S transaction because you can charge it back, would that mean I would falsely claim I haven't received an item? You're hilarious. Why are you trying so hard to paint me as an immoral man? |
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If it is an F&F transaction, there's still risk since in order to charge it back I'd need to claim my PayPal account was hacked, or there was an unauthorized access which if found to be false, could result in my account being limited.
I will revise all my feedback later today or tommorow, since as I said, I just found out about being DT.
You received BTC. You sent PayPal. What are you going to charge back? Are you saying that you would claim that your PayPal account was hacked in order to reverse the transaction? Aren't we all glad that OgNasty dredged the swamp to find this particular creature  If I sent F&F first there is still risk in the transaction! Since I need to claim unauthorized access in order to charge back if scammed and that easily results in account suspension if found out to be a lie. Read first, be rude later. |
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Someone who speaks Croatian should say if there's any blackmail in it.
The second you left an unjust negative rating after we did not accept your demand it turned into blackmail. Just because you wrapped it nicely into a sob-story doesn't mean that it actually wasn't. Actually, it makes it worse since it's deceptive. But what do I know. The second one just happens to be a 3-post newbie, who also just happens to be an account seller. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ You've found out about the 1st feedback I ever left! It was yesterday? Nah, it was in 2014 when I was a Jr.Member! It's not like I became DT today, so I had a chance to revise my Jr.Member feedbacks  I knew I was a DT for how long now? 10 minutes? ----------- Ahh, yes. A regular member blackmailes 2 DTs with untrusted feedback. It is 'trust' and I found your feedback to be unjust and UNTRUE. You have claimed I am not to be trusted, I found this to be COMPLETELY UNTRUE and therefore, I have left feedback on your account. You have not only abused the trust system but also mismanaged 3000 BTC. On yours, Lauda, I will never remove. |
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I believe 'should not be trusted' for a person who has handled a million $ worth of assets without a single complaint about his services is an abuse of the trust system.
What are you on about? You just made a claim I left retaliatory feedback. I explained why that's a lie. "Sent me X BTC, I sent him Y PP" Is a trade. PayPal is a reversible payment processor and such a trade includes risk of being scammed. That's what the Trust system is FOR! Not for opinions etc. There was zero risk for you. The person who received your (now green by default) trust rating did not need to be trusted by you in that transaction. You're the one sending PayPal. The other person takes the risk and may decide to leave a positive rating for you. If it is an F&F transaction, there's still risk since in order to charge it back I'd need to claim my PayPal account was hacked, or there was an unauthorized access which if found to be false, could result in my account being limited. I will revise all my feedback later today or tommorow, since as I said, I just found out about being DT. |
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Oh the irony.  |
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If I was a DT when I left it, I wouldn't have left it at all.
I appreciate you came through and removed yours.
Your new rating for TP is almost as shit as the old one: He's not an asshole You should also prune your other ratings that have no references and/or were posted for ridiculous reasons, particularly positive ones for trades that had no risk on your part, e.g. "Sent me X BTC, I sent him Y PP" - your counterparty doesn't deserve green trust for that. If you do that again it will be equivalent to trust sale now that you're in DT. Uses retaliatory trust ratings and extensively posts trust ratings without references I believe 'should not be trusted' for a person who has handled a million $ worth of assets without a single complaint about his services is an abuse of the trust system. But since The Pharmacist hasn't been as rude and crazy as Lauda and has acknowleged his mistake, I have removed my feedback from his profile. Also "Sent me X BTC, I sent him Y PP" PayPal is a reversible payment processor and such a trade includes risk of being scammed. That's what the Trust system is FOR! Not for opinions etc. The "Not an asshole" tag was left before I realized I became a DT (I found out with my first post today) It will be removed now. |
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OP attempted to blackmail us into removing their ratings. We got tagged for not giving in. Any attempts at making their ratings appear under a real pretense is therefore void (actually makes them a even less trustworthy). I still have the PMs from iluvbitcoins he sent me after I tagged him, and I can't speak for Lauda but iluvbitcoins didn't try to blackmail me into removing my feedback. You don't seem to have experienced with 'act-nice-blackmail', which this was. Since you asked for opinions, I'll give you mine: From the moment I saw the red tag on OP, I thought it was a bit harsh.
OP is dishonest; there's nothing harsh here. Their behavior post-rejecting to obeying their requests proves that. I'm not familiar with offering loans and accepting accounts as collateral, but would it be normal practice to take control of the staked address of the account they are getting as collateral for a loan? I thought it was normally just the account login information provided?
I don't think so. I have sent you 3 PMs. 1. http://prntscr.com/laujf6Someone who speaks Croatian should say if there's any blackmail in it. This is the simmilar english equivalent I've sent to The Pharmacist. Judge yourself is there's blackmail in it. http://prntscr.com/laukmw2. http://prntscr.com/laul0v3. http://prntscr.com/laulccTranslates to "You don't speak Croatian?" since he responded to my PM on english, although he spoke Croatian a year back. I can stream my outbox if someone is willing to watch it in order to confirm this to be legitimate. I don't think so.
Just seemed odd to me that iluvbitcoins would control the staked address of an account he is selling which was apparently acquired through a defaulted loan. I don't see any evidence that private keys or staked addresses were typically used as collateral in the past with accounts - as that would be stupid for the account owner. And I guess I don't understand why anyone would accept a loan from an account owner who is handing over their private keys?? (assuming they expect to be paid back) The account didn't have a staked address when I got it as collateral, I staked one a year back or so when it was in my ownership. @The Pharmacist If I was a DT when I left it, I wouldn't have left it at all. I appreciate you came through and removed yours. |
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While you could have handled this situation in a much better manner, which you didn't, a red tag wasn't initially really required,for your case. The person who controls Avirunes account had bought it and made his name, point being not all account buyers are trying to game the system or whatever, but since you tried to sell an account to a random person, its hard to conclude if you really wanted to sell it to a non "red-tagged member". Bitcointalk community works in a odd manner, just like everything else. While the tag doesn't make you a scammer, it doesn't make you look like a trust worthy person either. A new person would obviously judge you for the red tags you received, and not for the green tags. All I can suggest you to do is, instead of being an utter asshole, try sorting it out with Lauda and The Pharmacist privately. I've only started being an asshole after I found out Lauda scammed his escrowers out of 3000 BCH and is lecturing me for trying to sell one account (I know my word that I wanted to sell it to a legit person means nothing, but still comparing a consensual transaction with a 3000 BCH scam..) Wow, 3 votes against in like 10 minutes. Seems like Lauda used some multies Gee its almost like the polls on BTCT are completely and utterly useless at actually determining anything as anyone could accuse you of having 9 alts, you have at least 2 accounts we know of that could have voted yes... Touche. Although, I guarantee you I am not engaged in unethical behaviour. I had one account because the person used it as collateral and never paid me back. If there were an agreement between me and The Pharmacist, I could provide links to replies and screenshots of PMs, blockchain transaction etc. which would confirm this to be true, and the described in the thread would match. However, although Lauda wouldn't want to remove his feedback if I asked for an agreement, I wouldn't remove mine even if he wanted to remove his. I can't condone that even though my feedback means nothing, he scammed for 3000 BCH. There are some morals. Saying that you will only sell an account to a member without any red trust is meaningless. There are so many alts here, that a scammer is bound to have a few without red tags.
I can't think of a reason for anyone other than a bounty spammer or a scammer to buy an account anyway.
Dunno, once upon a time I wanted to buy an account for my girlfriend. This one I gave to good friends to use before trying to sell it, they made genuinely good posts. They were using it for 2 years or so, but recently it's just sitting idle, so I had a dumb idea to sell it.. Although sig.campaigns are a bit spammy, they do get new people involved. |
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Wow, 3 votes against in like 10 minutes. Seems like Lauda used some multies |
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Hello;
Please I want to discuss a very important topic, it's about the relation between Islam and extremism.
I Don't know why people are still believing that all muslims are terrorists, or extremists, I know that the majority of Muslim countries suffers from lack of democracy, but people and youth in these countries know crypto, use Facebook, Twitter, Telegram, Instagram… etc. listen to music, have boy or girlfriend, etc.
I personally suffer from those haters especially when I travel.
So, Where is the problem? I Don't know?
I am a Muslim and I am not the problem. All around I see a siege being laid for the Muslims of this country. Government, TV media, social media – everywhere there is a cacophony around the Muslims. This cacophony is the problem. I am not the problem. Hate is being mainstreamed by the very people responsible to maintain harmony, to bridge divides. This hate is the problem. I am not the problem. Everywhere you go, where there's a lot of immigirants, the locals dislike them It's not about being Muslim, it's about being n immigrant and taking over someone elses land I'm not even talking about people of different nationalities or religions People of the same nationality and religion are hated upon if they move in big numbers to a certain territory The locals dislike them, because they're threatened The most common name given to a baby in London is Mohammad, that says enough. there is no problem with immigrants if immigration is well managed, immigrants also make countries richer, much much richer, there are countless examples for that usa, europe, gulf states, australia, latin america, russia etc. When migrants assimilate, no one is against them (mostly), but when there is mass immigration in which they create ghettos, hang out only with their own countryman and create basically a seperate society in your country, dislike the host, that forms a problem. If we import all of Africa to Europe, we're going to become Africa, and the Africans won't have a place to come to anymore, since our culture, which created this prosperity will be replaced by the newcomers culture which has failed to produce prosperity in their own countries. In order to prosper from immigration it would be necessary for the migrants to adopt to our culture instead of maintaining the same culture that made them leave their country. |
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In my opinion taxation is not not a theft , because the tax that people are paying is something that they can benefit in return just like when there are calamities and problems in their regions the tax that they pay will be the money that the government will give to the people. But here in our country is different , taxation is a theft because politicians steal the money that people pay for their taxes. Many corrupts government officials here in our country is living with ease because the money they have comes from the peoples taxea.
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