This is just a thought I a will admit that their is no evidence of this idea. But their are a lot of people that want a world war. Perhaps this was done by some idiots that want the war to expand and bring about the rapture faster.
And right on cue, stupid-ass John McCain jumps into the fray - talking about the US sending arms in. We don't even know for sure that this airliner was shot down as opposed to crashing because of other problems. STFU, McCain. Why can't the knee-jerk conservatives ever learn to get the facts FIRST? McCain needs to be tucked away in a home somewhere before he hurts himself. I've always thought he was unhinged but he's getting worse. |
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Hamas is more than just an armed brigade it consists of political and civil service wings as well and targeted people specifically for their political affiliation is a war crime as well. Anything associated with Hamas isn't militarily fair game. There is no military benefits to bombing empty homes of civilian infrastructure.
It is not the same because Israelis are not welcoming people to use their homes as launch sites or bases of operation.One you do that, your home is not a home it is military complex and should be dealt with as a military target.Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union, Jordan, Egypt and Japan to name a few all classify Hamas as a terrorist organization. It should be treated as a terrorist organization. Civilians are civilians, just because Israel has compulsory military duty for many of its citizens doesn't open those citizens up to being targeted with violence when they aren't actively serving. That isn't a good excuse for Hamas and it isn't a good excuse for Israel. And yet it is still a recognized war crime to bomb a Hamas soup kitchen . There is a difference between an service member sitting peacefully in his home with his wife and kids, watching the sunday game and having cookouts in the backyard VS someone who has his family sit around kitchen table and help load and plan the next rocket firing. One is civilian and the other is a military target. Let me know when you have evidence that everyone in Gaza is secretly an armed revolutionary that engages in terrorist activities. Let me know when you have evidence that every home in Gaza is loaded with weapons and bombs. Most aren't. I understand that. Most Gazans want peace. But it becomes harder to achieve peace when Hamas is continually committing war crimes by launching attacks from civilian population areas and then hiding behind civilians for cover. I agree. It also makes it harder when Israel engages in war crimes and violations of the Fourth Geneva Conventions as well. It would also help if Netanyahu was willing to halt settlement expansion at all. |
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We have seen such reports (which Israel generally refuses to partake in) such as the Goldstein Report from Operation Cast Lead.
Actually Goldstone went back on his report: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Fact_Finding_Mission_on_the_Gaza_Conflict#Goldstone.27s_retraction_of_civilian_targeting_claimOn 1 April 2011, Goldstone published a piece in The Washington Post titled 'Reconsidering the Goldstone Report on Israel and war crimes'. Goldstone noted that the subsequent investigations by Israel and recognized in the U.N. committee's report "indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy" while "the crimes allegedly committed by Hamas were intentional goes without saying." this shit is complicated and it seems hard to know whats true and whats not sometimes important to add: Hina Jilani, one of the four writers of the "Goldstone Report", noted when asked if the report should allegedly be changed: "Absolutely not; no process or acceptable procedure would invalidate the UN Report; if it does happen, it would be seen as a 'suspect move'." Also another of the four co-writers, Irish international criminal investigations expert Desmond Travers, noted: 'the tenor of the report in its entirety, in my opinion, stands'. Also Goldstone maintained that, although the one correction should be made, he had "no reason to believe any part of the report needs to be reconsidered at this time" and that he didn't plan to pursue nullifying the report. I read it back when it first came out, I would encourage you to do the same, they were certainly limited in some areas due to the lack of Israeli cooperation, but they came to several definitive conclusions as well about some specific incidents / aspects of the operation. The fletchings and targeting of civilian infrastructure such as water dykes for example. |
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It was because the Founding Fathers did not want an official state religion like England had. Find us one Founding Father quote that says it was to 'prevent religious wars'. Liberals are so full of crap!
The English Civil War was fought in large part because the Puritans didn't feel that the Church of England was pure enough, and hated Laud for reinstalling some of the gaudier Catholic rites and forms. The whole point of the fear of an established church was the sectarianism that could lead to those sort of conflicts as had occurred barely a century before our own revolution. Religion is EXACTLY what led to the English Civil War and the Glorious Revolution in 1688, do you know anything? |
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It is now a commonplace for Tea Party candidates to vow they won’t sacrifice an iota of their principles. In this light, shutting down the Government rather than bending on legislation becomes a moral imperative. While critics may decry such a tactic as “rule or ruin,” Tea Party brethren celebrate it, rather, as the act of a defiant Samson pulling down the pillars of the temple. For them, this is not demolition but reclamation, cleansing the sanctuary that has been profaned by liberals.
I see the tea party movement as very similar to the jihadist movement in the Muslim religion. Only their way is acceptable. This is the new religion that is sweeping the less intelligent of our people. The Old white men want to take this country back. The real problem is that yes everything looked better when you were young, but as you get older you pine for the good old days when you could walk or run around and you didn't get ackes and pains. Those days won't come back so for god sake quit trying. It is very much like that. There is real religious fervor underlying this movement (I'm talking about batshit Christian fundamentalism and Dominionists etc)..... and the "libertarian" contingent that likes to present itself as NOT about this, is happy to throw in with them anyway and just ignore the Christian jihadist aspect. Ron and Rand Paul for example are Christianists to the core; they just don't advertise that part. If you want stark evidence of this, you only have to look at the tree that Ted Cruz fell from...Daddy Rafael. Some inconvenient facts about Rafael Cruz Ted Cruz is not alone. If you want Ted Cruz, you also get his father Rafael Cruz, who currently tours the country, giving outrageous speeches in which he spews hate and lies. His primary target is President Obama, and just a few days ago, some particularly shocking quotes by Rafael Cruz were highlighted by David Corn at Mother Jones, in an article which thankfully received a lot of attention. Quote from Mother Jones: In April, Rafael Cruz, the father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), spoke to the tea party of Hood County, which is southwest of Fort Worth, and made a bold declaration: The United States is a "Christian nation." The septuagenarian businessman turned evangelical pastor did not choose to use the more inclusive formulation "Judeo-Christian nation." Insisting that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution "were signed on the knees of the framers" and were a "divine revelation from God," he went on to say, "yet our president has the gall to tell us that this is not a Christian nation…The United States of America was formed to honor the word of God." Seven months earlier, Rafael Cruz, speaking to the North Texas Tea Party on behalf of his son, who was then running for Senate, called President Barack Obama an "outright Marxist" who "seeks to destroy all concept of God," and he urged the crowd to send Obama "back to Kenya." Some really disturbing information at this link including video clips. http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2013/11/rafael-cruz-father-of-senator-ted-cruz.htmlYou want to look at what Ted Cruz "fell from"  how about we look at what Barry Soetoro fell from a communist polygamist and a porn star mom? ?? an uncle that's a murdering would be dictator? ? a grandfather who was supported by his wife his entire life? Do you really want to get into family histories? ? A porn star mom? No kidding? You really need to be a a rubber room somewhere. |
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It is now a commonplace for Tea Party candidates to vow they won’t sacrifice an iota of their principles. In this light, shutting down the Government rather than bending on legislation becomes a moral imperative. While critics may decry such a tactic as “rule or ruin,” Tea Party brethren celebrate it, rather, as the act of a defiant Samson pulling down the pillars of the temple. For them, this is not demolition but reclamation, cleansing the sanctuary that has been profaned by liberals.
I see the tea party movement as very similar to the jihadist movement in the Muslim religion. Only their way is acceptable. This is the new religion that is sweeping the less intelligent of our people. The Old white men want to take this country back. The real problem is that yes everything looked better when you were young, but as you get older you pine for the good old days when you could walk or run around and you didn't get ackes and pains. Those days won't come back so for god sake quit trying. It is very much like that. There is real religious fervor underlying this movement (I'm talking about batshit Christian fundamentalism and Dominionists etc)..... and the "libertarian" contingent that likes to present itself as NOT about this, is happy to throw in with them anyway and just ignore the Christian jihadist aspect. Ron and Rand Paul for example are Christianists to the core; they just don't advertise that part. If you want stark evidence of this, you only have to look at the tree that Ted Cruz fell from...Daddy Rafael. Some inconvenient facts about Rafael Cruz Ted Cruz is not alone. If you want Ted Cruz, you also get his father Rafael Cruz, who currently tours the country, giving outrageous speeches in which he spews hate and lies. His primary target is President Obama, and just a few days ago, some particularly shocking quotes by Rafael Cruz were highlighted by David Corn at Mother Jones, in an article which thankfully received a lot of attention. Quote from Mother Jones: In April, Rafael Cruz, the father of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), spoke to the tea party of Hood County, which is southwest of Fort Worth, and made a bold declaration: The United States is a "Christian nation." The septuagenarian businessman turned evangelical pastor did not choose to use the more inclusive formulation "Judeo-Christian nation." Insisting that the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution "were signed on the knees of the framers" and were a "divine revelation from God," he went on to say, "yet our president has the gall to tell us that this is not a Christian nation…The United States of America was formed to honor the word of God." Seven months earlier, Rafael Cruz, speaking to the North Texas Tea Party on behalf of his son, who was then running for Senate, called President Barack Obama an "outright Marxist" who "seeks to destroy all concept of God," and he urged the crowd to send Obama "back to Kenya." Some really disturbing information at this link including video clips. http://politicalgates.blogspot.com/2013/11/rafael-cruz-father-of-senator-ted-cruz.html |
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I know a lot of folks have their various biases in the argument of global climate change, but there are several aspects that are far more frightening that just warming. Warming is fine by me. I like warm. Warming too fast means the buffers from rivers cant keep up with changing pH. This is ocean acidification. This has been happening in recent decades with increased pace. Some shell-forming animals are already reportedly having problems. Google Ocean acidification if interested
The other is the unknown factors....like methane hydrates in the deep oceans. What will a very slight change in deep ocean temperature do to possibly release vast deposits? Or a rapid change? It is not so much that change has happened, rather how fast it happens and the differences that makes.
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Hey thanks for researching this. I saw the post and from the video I could tell it was not a meteor strike, but I could not tell if it was a CGI hoax. If that thing is real... then WTF? I had no idea that methane in the permafrost could behave that way or form a structure like that. I can't wait to find out more! How deep is it? Are there others? It looked to me like the "blue hole" I used to dive in Belize. That feature is interpreted as a Karst feature, but could it be related?  In any case, I hope this is not a sign of the permafrost going. If that happens the volume of green house gas entering the atmosphere would be staggering. There would be little we could do to keep the planet from becoming an oven. It is considered the worst case scenario in global climate change. I couldn't find out how deep is it, maybe they don't know yet.Here what they say on dailymail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2693105/Giant-hole-appears-Siberia-Huge-crater-emerges-end-world.html |
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This is the sort of thing than can start a major war.Rebels fighting against Ukraine and supplied by Russia are the suspects. Bodies reported all over the ground for miles. What a tragedy. But how can Russia afford to arm the rebels when the country is suffering from crushing sanctions?
The Russian rebels deny they are Russian or funded by Russians and yes, this act by rebels could justify Russia invading Ukraine just like rebels in crimea justified their takeover of crimea and the forced election. It's also possible that it was an accident. Russian insurgents in Ukraine have been firing anti-aircraft missiles at Ukrainian fighter jets, so who knows. But an airliner looks nothing like a fighter jet or even a bomber.Exactly. I suspect that Russia may use the same excuse. We shall see. After all, Obama is no threat. Ok, this one IS for you, Rigon - what do you think Obama should be doing about the Ukranian/Russian problem? |
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They will cover it until it is known what happened. CNN's reporting on any given topic is negatively correlated with the amount of accurate information available on that topic.
Sounds about right, also sounds about right for our other major TV news networks like MSNBC and Fox; even CBS and ABC even if they have a decent program here and there. |
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At least they know where it is this time. I wonder how long CNN will cover it for. ....remember a few months ago another airplane who was going to Malaysia disappear
If it leads to war, then for at least several years afterwards. This is like the incident with Archduke Franz Ferdinand which lead to World War I. That is, if it was an actual missile attack by the pro-Russian separatists. |
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We have seen such reports (which Israel generally refuses to partake in) such as the Goldstein Report from Operation Cast Lead.
It is also the administration's job to provide supporting evidence that the targets that it is choosing are of military value (when questioned). If they can't do that, then they shouldn't be bombing civilian targets. Yet, Israeli administrations tend not to cooperate with such fact finding missions.
probably because nothing happens when they don't. also do you mean goldstone? if not link to info about goldstein report? Right. They are protected in the Security Council by the U.S. and have support in the EU through Germany. Hahaha. Yes, Goldstone Report, thank you. I'm currently doing some work for a company with Einstein in its title and have been typing it constantly. Goldstone is a judge from South Africa who was put in charge of the fact finding mission. |
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We have seen such reports (which Israel generally refuses to partake in) such as the Goldstein Report from Operation Cast Lead.
It is also the administration's job to provide supporting evidence that the targets that it is choosing are of military value (when questioned). If they can't do that, then they shouldn't be bombing civilian targets. Yet, Israeli administrations tend not to cooperate with such fact finding missions.
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Hamas is more than just an armed brigade it consists of political and civil service wings as well and targeted people specifically for their political affiliation is a war crime as well. Anything associated with Hamas isn't militarily fair game. There is no military benefits to bombing empty homes of civilian infrastructure.
It is not the same because Israelis are not welcoming people to use their homes as launch sites or bases of operation.One you do that, your home is not a home it is military complex and should be dealt with as a military target.Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union, Jordan, Egypt and Japan to name a few all classify Hamas as a terrorist organization. It should be treated as a terrorist organization. Civilians are civilians, just because Israel has compulsory military duty for many of its citizens doesn't open those citizens up to being targeted with violence when they aren't actively serving. That isn't a good excuse for Hamas and it isn't a good excuse for Israel. And yet it is still a recognized war crime to bomb a Hamas soup kitchen . There is a difference between an service member sitting peacefully in his home with his wife and kids, watching the sunday game and having cookouts in the backyard VS someone who has his family sit around kitchen table and help load and plan the next rocket firing. One is civilian and the other is a military target. Let me know when you have evidence that everyone in Gaza is secretly an armed revolutionary that engages in terrorist activities. Let me know when you have evidence that every home in Gaza is loaded with weapons and bombs. |
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Hamas is more than just an armed brigade it consists of political and civil service wings as well and targeted people specifically for their political affiliation is a war crime as well. Anything associated with Hamas isn't militarily fair game. There is no military benefits to bombing empty homes of civilian infrastructure.
It is not the same because Israelis are not welcoming people to use their homes as launch sites or bases of operation.One you do that, your home is not a home it is military complex and should be dealt with as a military target.Israel, the United States, Canada, the European Union, Jordan, Egypt and Japan to name a few all classify Hamas as a terrorist organization. It should be treated as a terrorist organization. Civilians are civilians, just because Israel has compulsory military duty for many of its citizens doesn't open those citizens up to being targeted with violence when they aren't actively serving. That isn't a good excuse for Hamas and it isn't a good excuse for Israel. And yet it is still a recognized war crime to bomb a Hamas soup kitchen . |
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Who ever did this,russians\ucranians ...this is humanity crime...just looking at that picture i don't want to think how this situation will end...but whoever did this must pay! |
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Hamas is more than just an armed brigade it consists of political and civil service wings as well and targeted people specifically for their political affiliation is a war crime as well. Anything associated with Hamas isn't militarily fair game. There is no military benefits to bombing empty homes of civilian infrastructure.
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Normal wartime strategy and policy does not work and does not apply when your opponent does not care to follow them either.
Hamas maybe the ones holding the guns, but Gaza sat idly by and didn't do a thing to stop it. They were complicit in the attacks.
Finally, if someone invites Hamas into their home and argues that they have women and children, so they cannot or should not be bombed, they have no right to cry when they are.
Israel absolutely strikes back at rocket launch sites and has done so consistently outside of this operation. They took drones and shot down the rockets, yes. They continued to play defense and did not take an offensive approach until recently (before the current conflict). Considering how long the conflict has been going on the war crime approach doesn't seem to be working for them either. That is the same justification that Hamas used for the targeting of Israeli civilians. Congratulations you support terrorism. |
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Normal wartime strategy and policy does not work and does not apply when your opponent does not care to follow them either.
Hamas maybe the ones holding the guns, but Gaza sat idly by and didn't do a thing to stop it. They were complicit in the attacks.
Finally, if someone invites Hamas into their home and argues that they have women and children, so they cannot or should not be bombed, they have no right to cry when they are.
Israel absolutely strikes back at rocket launch sites and has done so consistently outside of this operation. |
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