If you can't get it to work via windows no matter what you do, install something like virtual box. Install linux as a virtual machine. And just use the linux wallet (and move over your wallet.dat).

Could be useful for the future, as then you can install linux wallets for any coins you want. If they ever explode into horribleness, they won't affect your main OS.

Curious, so just tested my wallet. Using the old wallet, older nodes, and after a bit of a delay, it seems to be syncing now.

Guess only thing I can suggest is try the old wallet if all else fails? Not that it should matter either way.

I wouldn't suggest running wallets on your main computer (if your new desktop is in fact your main computer), besides maybe a btc wallet (even then, I prefer to keep mine offline). I'd suggest either a virtual machine, or use an old laptop or some junko computer lying around just to keep spare wallets on. Save you some heartache if one day you run across an infected wallet.

I think the freebie bounties came to 4K coins, not counting signature, which hasn't been given out yet.

Yes and no. You chose to buy off of yobit, which is a known pump/dump exchange, so you must have been aware of the risk involved.

The fact that the coin was available on yobit for trading before the ICO was over, and in the volume it was PLUS the switch in exchange value in bela (which removed the advantage of buying coins via the ICO) should have been giant red flags screaming: "Okay, something is wrong here".

The wording by the dev was a red flag: sold coins to a 'secret man'. Secret man? Like some guy skulking around the corner in a dark alley, going "Pss... can you sell me some chesscoin?"

It never really added up. Now if it was a teensy bit of coin he sold, which it looked like originally, .1 btc or less daily yobit volume, we could let it slide, figure it was odd, but okay, nothing too terrible. Later on when we were seeing much higher volumes, it was a sign to just stay away -- unless you were willing to take the risk.
So I wouldn't completely blame the dev if you bought off of yobit, as the warning signs were there.

And I guess you might as well hold at this point, hope for a spike if the coin makes it to ccex, and just cash out then for whatever you can get.

That's possible, except for that bela rate change thing and the timing of it -- it's a red flag, as it benefited whomever was selling on yobit. Doesn't rule out the dev being scammed as well, however.

I find both c-cex and yobit annoying ... it took me like a half a dozen tries to even register for a yobit account, the captcha was acting weird for me.

In a sense, yes, but not really -- those who took part in the ICO will be those who 'won' and will call this a fair airdrop sort of coin. Although we are still talking about crumbs level profit really.

Those who bought off the exchange at a higher price will consider this a scam.

Let's just say there was somewhat shady behavior going on once the dev said he sold some of his coin to a third party/yobit trading+ bela exchange rate changed. If you connect the dots, you can see how the exchange rate change benefited whomever was trading on yobit.

It could have been worse, but then again, it doesn't benefit the dev to drive the price of the coin into the ground completely, as he still has an awful lot of coin. So that's the only plus I can tell those who are sitting on a lot of higher priced chesscoin -- it's to the devs advantage to get the price up somehow, so he can sell his own coins. This voting thing will only do so much, he'll need to release some wallets/android chess app, or something...or simply pump the coin using his btc. Whether he can do that, or decides to take just whatever he can... that is another matter.

Had a similar problem, I saved my wallet.dat, deleted all info in roaming folder, added conf file with nodes, restarted ... then moved over my wallet, and it began chugging along for me.

Just remember to backup that wallet before you start deleting anything.

Agreed there, although I wouldn't rule out manipulation later on, as the dev will be holding an awful lot of chesscoin.

Which brings me to my next point... how many coins does he have, exactly? We can say all of them, but all of them - coins sold. How many did he sell?

If I was the cynical sort, it wouldn't involve a lot of detective work to figure how who this mysterious 'secret man' is, who is dumping on yobit with a seemingly endless supply of coins.

By the way, anyone else find the timing of the bela rate swap change a tad peculiar? Some have described changing the rate as bad judgement, but it makes perfect sense when you think about it. Yobit volume of course increased after the rate change, as otherwise folks would just do the bela swap at 10x rate. Get rid of that advantage, and folks instead buy off exchange. That is an advantage to someone.

Thanks.  Finally got my wallet to chug along.

Of course mine shows zero coins, even though the dev supposedly sent out coins to ico investors. Sent in a small amount of bela during the ico, so expected to see something by now.

Yeah, he's a weird troller -- act is growing tired by now; he doesn't come across as a troll anymore,  he comes across as someone who has suffered brain damage.

Personally I stay away from Yobit... never traded there at all. Too many junk coins and the exchange itself doesn't exactly have a stellar reputation.

I'd instead say put that btc into bittrex or polo and pick some coins there.

I'm not above putting a little into iffy coins at times (I put some bela crumbs into this thing, for instance), but it's always such a small amount where if I lose it, so be it ... won't bother me that much. Unfortunately most of yobit's coins look iffy, too much pump/dump for my liking.

I wouldn't necessarily say he killed both coins, as Bela in theory can withstand a 2-3 btc dump ... if done semi- slowly. So just a note to ICO people getting refunds, may be best to slowly sell the coins if prices are low, rather than dump to smithereens. Bela had 2 btc volume today for instance and is still higher in price than it was during most of the ICO time period. It's been trading in the 80-200 range for the last several months, even before chesscoin came around.

As for chesscoin ... not that surprising after seeing the volume numbers on yobit recently. I was about to post today that the escrow terms very well may have been broken by the early trading to begin with.

Thing is, either it was terrible decision-making and/or shadiness. Once it became obvious that the yobit trading wasn't simply a handful of coins, things became murky.

2.7 M Bela = about 2-3ish BTC (assuming there is enough liquidity), so not sure what 5 BTC refers to.

As for the rest,  I'm not even sure what you mean  -- outrage if able to collect 100 BTC? 1000 BTC?

Whatever the ICO has taken in to this point, is probably it. Due to the way the bela rate exchange was set up, it makes no sense at all for anyone to invest now -- earlier, yes. Now, it'd be silly.

An awful lot of volume for a coin not released yet (officially). And I don't mean that in a good way.

If I put my cynical hat on, I could easily come up with reasons why the coin
is where it is.

Until the ICO is over, I wouldn't necessarily be concerned about the price.

The other factor is yobit. I never use yobit, never had an account there, and certainly wouldn't keep spare btc on that exchange. So I'm not sure if it really reflects a true price, or is what it is.

The coin simply needs to get on a better exchange. Price may still stink, but it'd be more accurate.

Sure, it's possible. Not likely, but it could happen. But that's 'some' money, meaning spend 1-2 btc on development so team can cash out their 50% of coins. Not spend 30 btc on development.

This is just cynical hypothetical talk, by the way, not something that I think will happen. Just thinking aloud in evil mode, to point out why devs buying into their own ICOs is not a good thing.

Okay, let's run a hypothetical scenario:

Dev invests 30 btc on the last day of this ICO. Now he gets approx 50% of all the ICO coins.
At this point, why not? I mean, it's not like the coin has been raking in btc, and nobody else will
invest due to the early bela rate advantage. All investors get half as many coins as they would have otherwise.

Escrow is released. Dev now gets that 30 btc back too.

Why would you assume a dev would then use that 30 btc (his own btc) for development? I mean, it'd be nice and all, but it'd be naive to expect it. Devs don't invest into their own ICOs to then turn around and use that btc for development -- just not done.  

Now I don't expect the dev here to do this. Just saying if we see large last day investments, well... that isn't so good. And of course -- if the cynical sort -- one may think this happened already via bela and nobody could tell the difference. That's what makes icos tricky.

In a proportional ICO, it's not fair... basically wrecks everyone who invested earlier. If any dev wants his or her own coins, it should be set out clearly in the ICO terms. They have some coins anyway. If they want more, they should buy off the exchange like everyone else.

Remember if a dev buys into his own ICO, he's not buying anything. He gets the btc AND the coin. Which is why ICOs can be sometimes troublesome. Plus side, this thing is escrowed, so dev can't buy his own coin using money other folks sent in. And at a 10x bela advantage, it'll take a decent amount of btc to make a dent in the proportional payouts. Just saying if we see a 20-30 btc investment on the last day, it's a pretty big red flag. This isn't like normal ICOs where everyone invested using btc and there is only a 10-30% disadvantage to late investors.... the bela advantage was much larger than that.

Troll boxes are like opposite world. Whatever people say, believe and do the opposite.

I expect the ICO to be more or less locked where it is, after the change in the bela transfer rate. It makes no sense to invest with bela or btc anymore, as earlier folks have such a large advantage. Even though the ICO is technically still ongoing, guessing the dev just wanted to wrap it up,  since yobit trading is going on.

Unless we see a mysterious huge investment on the last day ... with the bela advantage for earlier investors meaning it makes no logical sense for anyone to do this, that would translate into: Dev donating into his own ICO to gobble up coins. Hopefully we don't see this.

I think we need to refill that sig form once our rank changes. Was told earlier in the thread we'd get paid as if we were that rank the entire time.

I'm feeling heroic this day myself... braver than usual.