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721  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Calling the Bottom on: September 20, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
The longer BTC is consolidated and get more used, the better.
722  Economy / Speculation / Re: What is Value of 1 BTC in end of Year ? on: September 20, 2014, 12:22:44 PM
600-1500
723  Economy / Speculation / Re: At what price would you buy 1 BTC ? on: September 20, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
If the price of BTC is below the cost of 20-30% of miners, then it is the price to buy.
Care to elaborate on this.. I'm interested in what you're getting at.

That would be a point where miners shut their rig to cut loss, or you can say they are desperate. So the selling pressure from miners is lowered. That would indicate a short term bottom.
724  Economy / Speculation / Re: The ALTS are not tanking.. on: September 20, 2014, 12:11:54 PM
Most alts are get rich quick scheme.
725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is stabilizing? on: September 20, 2014, 11:23:44 AM
Bitcoin will stabilize at zero a couple of years down the road.

Only when it is not widely adopted.
726  Economy / Speculation / Re: We leave 500. Target 200. Trade recommendation. on: September 20, 2014, 11:21:58 AM
$200 is possible, maybe caused by margin call. Long term, it will be higher.
727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's worst year on: September 20, 2014, 11:19:44 AM
2013
728  Economy / Speculation / Re: emergency forecast alert on: September 20, 2014, 11:17:47 AM
I tend to agree that there will be more downside, but I also want to point out a fact about BTC or investments in general.

When price goes up, it is easy to see BTC as a revolutionary technology that could change the world and that has incredible advantages over other means of payment, but when the markets are really bearish and price is falling BTC starts to appear redundant, not particularly useful, everybody starts to talk about its flaws and various other issues related, even though nothing particularly changed fundamentals wise between the two scenarios (only more good news).
It's a cognitive bias, even if valid points can be made in the two situations.


I think the reason for this constant downtrend is simply too much supply (3k BTC created a day if I'm not mistaken) for the current demand.
BTC has probably been overpumped, overhyped, overbought (but especially the last bubble) and demand simply is not there.
It needed a "price reset" and maybe this "price reset" it isn't over yet.

Agreed. but 3600 BTC are created every day (144*24).
729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin starting to look more and more like TULIP BULBS of 1600s on: September 20, 2014, 11:15:36 AM
Tulip bulbs has little practical use apart from being looked at. You can use BTC to buy things.
730  Economy / Speculation / Re: At what price would you buy 1 BTC ? on: September 20, 2014, 11:14:28 AM
If the price of BTC is below the cost of 20-30% of miners, then it is the price to buy.
731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Good times don't last...going back up now on: September 20, 2014, 11:10:09 AM
I knew sub $400 coins would be too good to be true  Sad

It is close to the cost of some miners.
732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Ryans' log on: September 20, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
im still patiently waiting for 420+ to give my coins back to bulls, middle finger formation to 430 would be perfect =)
seems to me like ending diagonal (the v of c of (iv) ) it doesn't seem to be able to push much higher
ill give it little more time, im selling little if we go to 410

What is your cost?
733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why bitcoin price is falling ? on: September 20, 2014, 11:07:41 AM
September/October is usually not good for investment.
734  Economy / Speculation / Re: WAT on: September 20, 2014, 11:06:20 AM
I bought in at £330. and now the price is £255-£260. ..... And i thought the price was going up.....  Shocked

this time next year you're going to be a millionaire Cheesy

Most likely in 10-20 years.
735  Economy / Speculation / Re: rpietila Wall Observer - the Quality TA Thread ;) on: September 20, 2014, 10:57:34 AM

What I'm asking myself is if and when bitcoin will fail. To me, now seems the most likely time for bitcoin to just fade out and never come back which makes me uncomfortable

Selling at a bottom is a fail. If you feel prone to it, just get a vacation of 6 months and check back then.

What I mean is if bitcoin were to ever fail then now would be the time. I doubt bitcoin would fail and fade out when we are at $5k

I hope you're right though

When BTC is $5k, I would think Wall Street is in. The momentum will keep it going.
736  Economy / Speculation / Re: This marks the start of a new rally on: September 20, 2014, 10:55:34 AM
Nah. It will go down again in a few days. We will at least touch 299 before this is over.

It does not matter, as long as it is used, it is good.
737  Economy / Economics / Re: Ecuadorean Virtual Currency? on: September 20, 2014, 10:52:53 AM
Ecuador has enough computers to make btc a viable currency?

That would be a fiat digital coin, not BTC.
738  Economy / Economics / Re: How profitable is BTC daytrading? on: September 20, 2014, 10:51:00 AM
Maybe I was lucky but I had some successful daytrading from April to September, I was playing with dust btw.

Is that swing trade?
739  Economy / Economics / Re: where does bitcoin stand today? (July 2014) on: September 20, 2014, 10:50:12 AM
much less than 10% adoption and the adopters are also not using the bitcoins just holding, lots of work to be done!

I would say much less than 0.1%. The merchants accepting BTC should also use it to pay bills, not just selling it on exchanges.
740  Economy / Economics / Re: Ideas to raise the value of BTC or LTC on: September 20, 2014, 10:46:42 AM
If the BTC/LTC are accepted in unconventional trade, the value will rise.
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