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721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] 1st ETH fork | UPDATE v0.4.0 | GUI WALLET on: October 28, 2015, 01:40:26 AM
In marketing you have to put your money where your mouth is. Don't expect the marketers to see things in the same light nor try to pay them with something today worth very little and expect them to hope that it becomes valuable one day. It matters not what you have, the only thing that matters is the price it is that day.

The best Crypto Marketer is Lisa Cheng of Vanbex. They probably charge $3-$5k a month with no guarantees. However she produces results.  If you want a team that produces results for a lot less Vindyne8 (John) is who you need to talk to. I would recommend using both. Although you will never find anyone better than fellow team members or community members that are die hard enthusiasts to market for you.

Community members can use or build their twitter accounts up or create Retweet accounts and really get the word out. The Tweets might seem redundant but its that way for a reason because a serious volley creates memories in the unconverted and leads to either them researching further or that 'I can't get that song out of my head' effect which both are positive for the message because either way the person at least remembers the message.

Well written articles are important. If your a geek make sure not to write like one, just let it flow and source the important data through links or footnotes instead of trying to explain it. Making or getting included in a viral documentary or film that is guerrilla marketed free without charge is great along with Film Festivals. Even if your film places last at least it was viewed, sometimes around the world.

The Twitter Accounts for this here are sparse. Thats probably best for the official account but even thats not certain. I put together a SHIFT ReTweet Account @SHIFT_RTs https://twitter.com/SHIFT_RTs and will try to do my best to retweet the material on this plus my main account. I only retweet two other coins that I am involved with and like. I rarely retweet anything else unless its a one time favor. I focus only on what is important, what I like and believe in and what benefits me. I also have no problem pulling the chute and bailing out if the plane is going to crash.

I am going to get some GPUs and buy some SHIFT if and when I can. Plus ReTweet what is put out from official or trusted sources regarding SHIFT. There will be a documentary made for next years Film Festivals. I was part of a film crew in 2011 that made a documentary that has had millions of views, voted most viewed film on PBS National in 2011 and sells on iTunes today. My friend in New Mexico wants to get involved in Crypto and has agreed to work another project. He is the shit when it comes to films- http://thefilmmakerschannel.com if things work out SHIFT along with 2 other CryptoCurrencies including Bitcoin could possibly be covered within a 50 minute time frame format or well done short film.

I think there is something here. I have been planning this in my head for a while. If this ends up working for me I will be stoked. If anyone needs to contact me just send a PM. I am not one to get into long explanations or FUD sessions in forums. Lets see how this goes. You guys are all doing an amazing job here. Its an exciting place to be right now.

That's like one of the worse advices I have ever heard in here. I agree that Twitter is vital for every coin's (or asset etc..) success, but not because some people are spamming about it, but because its a place where some important people can notice you. If you make some research for like 3 mins, you will find that Lisa Cheng and Vanbex Twitter accounts has less than 4k followers combined. They doesn't seem to tweet a lot either. I'm not saying that they are not working, but for like $3-5k/month I think that they can do better. I have talked with Vindyne8 several times and I think he is a nice guy, but he is promoting just about every coin that pays. Nothing wrong with that, but by "just about every coin" I mean literally 100s of coins, no matter if the coin is called TurboGoatBitcoin or whatever. As you all know success rate of such coins is not very good... not to mention that they are not serious.

SHIFT guys are not Ethereum (which Lisa Cheng seems to support) and they don't have millions of $ to support it. Cryptocurrencies are about technology, but they have also turned into something from which certain people are just making money of. They don't care about their future at all. Your advice is to pay to some people, which will work for you, but there is no passion involved in that. The best thing you can do here is to earn the respect and love of the people. They will then invest in you and will protect their investment. It is always extremely hard (especially in the past 1-2 years) thing to achieve, but that is how things should work when we are talking about technology.    



Vanbex used to have connections to every crypto "NEWS" site. These are actually blogs but for some reason people call them news sites. They would also host conferences or pay for their clients to be speakers at conferences. They had connections to youtube personalities/shows. They would hire trolls to promote their stuff. They buy advertising.

Things have changed a bit now. New "NEWS" blogs have come on the scene. New youtube shows have started. These aren't in the same circle. Vanbex is still a great option but they don't have the same influence they used to.

They haven't promoted anything for a long time. They might have broken up and/or lost connections where they used to have them.


Vitalik Buterin seems to be the new person you talk to if you want media attention or investments.



I don't want to be mean but Vindyne8 promotes such garbage... I actually use his twitter account as "What NOT to buy". I hope it changes one day for the better. I also don't think his audience has much money to invest. Once crypto takes off in a few months and real good coins have money, I could see things changing and his stuff becoming more legit.



You could copy what Vanbex does. It just costs a lot of money. Each "NEWS" site costs $50 to $500 for an article. Being a conference speaker costs $500 to $3000. You could pay off Twitter accounts secretly. Probably $5 to $50 a person per tweet. You could hire trolls who have multiple accounts on social media for $20 to $200 a day. You could pay youtube personalities to do a show on SHIFT for maybe $100 to $500. You could buy ads.






BUT... EVERYONE FORGETS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING:

The SHIFT dev is ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!! You can't do media promotion with an anonymous dev. You need a Community member/Evangelist/Supporter like Andreas Antonopoulos.

We need someone to be the face of SHIFT. Someone who knows it's inner workings and who can speak well in public. This would be a difficult job and why I'd be willing to give away quite a bit of SHIFT to this person.







I guess you could have an anonymous dev. You could modify your voice some how. Then wear a mask. Appear virtually and do interviews virtually.


722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AXIOM] AxiomMemHash, Schnorr Sigs Implemented, APOS 3.0, AXH 2.0 Proposed on: October 27, 2015, 08:36:39 PM



someone better fake volume on bittrex or this coin will get delisted. Does anyone even care though?


723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] 1st ETH fork | UPDATE v0.4.0 | GUI WALLET on: October 27, 2015, 08:20:32 PM
In marketing you have to put your money where your mouth is. Don't expect the marketers to see things in the same light nor try to pay them with something today worth very little and expect them to hope that it becomes valuable one day. It matters not what you have, the only thing that matters is the price it is that day.

The best Crypto Marketer is Lisa Cheng of Vanbex. They probably charge $3-$5k a month with no guarantees. However she produces results.  If you want a team that produces results for a lot less Vindyne8 (John) is who you need to talk to. I would recommend using both. Although you will never find anyone better than fellow team members or community members that are die hard enthusiasts to market for you.

Community members can use or build their twitter accounts up or create Retweet accounts and really get the word out. The Tweets might seem redundant but its that way for a reason because a serious volley creates memories in the unconverted and leads to either them researching further or that 'I can't get that song out of my head' effect which both are positive for the message because either way the person at least remembers the message.

Well written articles are important. If your a geek make sure not to write like one, just let it flow and source the important data through links or footnotes instead of trying to explain it. Making or getting included in a viral documentary or film that is guerrilla marketed free without charge is great along with Film Festivals. Even if your film places last at least it was viewed, sometimes around the world.

The Twitter Accounts for this here are sparse. Thats probably best for the official account but even thats not certain. I put together a SHIFT ReTweet Account @SHIFT_RTs https://twitter.com/SHIFT_RTs and will try to do my best to retweet the material on this plus my main account. I only retweet two other coins that I am involved with and like. I rarely retweet anything else unless its a one time favor. I focus only on what is important, what I like and believe in and what benefits me. I also have no problem pulling the chute and bailing out if the plane is going to crash.

I am going to get some GPUs and buy some SHIFT if and when I can. Plus ReTweet what is put out from official or trusted sources regarding SHIFT. There will be a documentary made for next years Film Festivals. I was part of a film crew in 2011 that made a documentary that has had millions of views, voted most viewed film on PBS National in 2011 and sells on iTunes today. My friend in New Mexico wants to get involved in Crypto and has agreed to work another project. He is the shit when it comes to films- http://thefilmmakerschannel.com if things work out SHIFT along with 2 other CryptoCurrencies including Bitcoin could possibly be covered within a 50 minute time frame format or well done short film.

I think there is something here. I have been planning this in my head for a while. If this ends up working for me I will be stoked. If anyone needs to contact me just send a PM. I am not one to get into long explanations or FUD sessions in forums. Lets see how this goes. You guys are all doing an amazing job here. Its an exciting place to be right now.

That's like one of the worse advices I have ever heard in here. I agree that Twitter is vital for every coin's (or asset etc..) success, but not because some people are spamming about it, but because its a place where some important people can notice you. If you make some research for like 3 mins, you will find that Lisa Cheng and Vanbex Twitter accounts has less than 4k followers combined. They doesn't seem to tweet a lot either. I'm not saying that they are not working, but for like $3-5k/month I think that they can do better. I have talked with Vindyne8 several times and I think he is a nice guy, but he is promoting just about every coin that pays. Nothing wrong with that, but by "just about every coin" I mean literally 100s of coins, no matter if the coin is called TurboGoatBitcoin or whatever. As you all know success rate of such coins is not very good... not to mention that they are not serious.

SHIFT guys are not Ethereum (which Lisa Cheng seems to support) and they don't have millions of $ to support it. Cryptocurrencies are about technology, but they have also turned into something from which certain people are just making money of. They don't care about their future at all. Your advice is to pay to some people, which will work for you, but there is no passion involved in that. The best thing you can do here is to earn the respect and love of the people. They will then invest in you and will protect their investment. It is always extremely hard (especially in the past 1-2 years) thing to achieve, but that is how things should work when we are talking about technology.    



Vanbex used to have connections to every crypto "NEWS" site. These are actually blogs but for some reason people call them news sites. They would also host conferences or pay for their clients to be speakers at conferences. They had connections to youtube personalities/shows. They would hire trolls to promote their stuff. They buy advertising.

Things have changed a bit now. New "NEWS" blogs have come on the scene. New youtube shows have started. These aren't in the same circle. Vanbex is still a great option but they don't have the same influence they used to.

They haven't promoted anything for a long time. They might have broken up and/or lost connections where they used to have them.


Vitalik Buterin seems to be the new person you talk to if you want media attention or investments.



I don't want to be mean but Vindyne8 promotes such garbage... I actually use his twitter account as "What NOT to buy". I hope it changes one day for the better. I also don't think his audience has much money to invest. Once crypto takes off in a few months and real good coins have money, I could see things changing and his stuff becoming more legit.



You could copy what Vanbex does. It just costs a lot of money. Each "NEWS" site costs $50 to $500 for an article. Being a conference speaker costs $500 to $3000. You could pay off Twitter accounts secretly. Probably $5 to $50 a person per tweet. You could hire trolls who have multiple accounts on social media for $20 to $200 a day. You could pay youtube personalities to do a show on SHIFT for maybe $100 to $500. You could buy ads.






BUT... EVERYONE FORGETS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING:

The SHIFT dev is ANONYMOUS!!!!!!!! You can't do media promotion with an anonymous dev. You need a Community member/Evangelist/Supporter like Andreas Antonopoulos.

We need someone to be the face of SHIFT. Someone who knows it's inner workings and who can speak well in public. This would be a difficult job and why I'd be willing to give away quite a bit of SHIFT to this person.



724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: October 27, 2015, 06:14:57 PM
Better get your coin off masterXchange. I'm not sure what happens on Nov. 15th. I would hope they email you the private keys to your coins but you never know. many exchanges just keep the coins after they disappear.

You just need to withdraw your coin, no private key will be given..



Are you from masterXchange? You will probably have to get users their coins. Are you from the USA? You might go to jail if you keep the coins.

What happens to the people who aren't paying attention or on a 2 month volunteer project helping starving children in Africa?


725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IPO of MaidSafe:  Entering the Future of the Decentralized Internet on: October 26, 2015, 09:42:27 PM



Better get your coin off masterXchange. I'm not sure what happens on Nov. 15th. I would hope they email you the private keys to your coins but you never know. many exchanges just keep the coins after they disappear.


726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: October 26, 2015, 08:29:20 PM



This would extremely controversial but what do people think of this...

Add in a new premine of 100,000 GEO. Used for website promotion. Price is already pretty cheap. I don't think price would fall much more. If it did would anyone even mind? The hope would be the price after promotion would be a lot more.



Well we could start small, like add in a new 10,000 GEO bulk mine and see how many new users it brings in. Maybe restrict these new coins. You have to claim them with facebook. Then you have to post a coin on the map. Then you have to share on facebook what you did. Then you get some free coins.


727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 26, 2015, 08:26:00 PM

If this coin wants to be taken seriously as not a scam, there needs to be a page showing all premined coin transactions with a description of it's use and the voting results.


When the DAO is up, thats pretty much exactly how it will work.

Users will create spending propositions, and in the proposition it will have

- unique_id
- title
- description
- cost
- receiver_address
- voting_status

And in the wallet gui one will be able to read through all the spending props, if they passed or failed and who got what exp when.




This sounds perfect. I'm confused why ETH didn't have this. It's almost like they actually kind of suck. This coin could take over as the #1 Ethereum code based coin.


728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GEO] GeoCoin | GIS & GeoTechnologies on: October 26, 2015, 08:20:34 PM



This is a really fun website. As the website is right now it's good enough to have tons of users.

Now we need to pump up the price so that we can give away coins. We need that 50x price increase so that we can all give away free coins and users will actually want them cause its worth $5 to go find them. 50x price increase would only be a 1.5 million $ valuation. Pretty reasonable if the website had over 10,000 users.


729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [AMP] Synereo the decentralized social network tokens P2P trading on: October 26, 2015, 08:15:18 PM


No one wants to do:
WTB / 50 sat / 1 000 000 AMP


ok I will raise the price.

WTB / 120 sat / 1 000 000 AMP


730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 25, 2015, 08:21:08 PM



If this coin wants to be taken seriously as not a scam, there needs to be a page showing all premined coin transactions with a description of it's use and the voting results.


731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Expanse (EXP) - Fair Launch, No ICO, Community DAO, based on Ethereum on: October 24, 2015, 03:50:38 AM
The main problem with the Expanse is the orderly dump of the so called development fund. If it is dumped too quickly, price will crash.

Who is dumping the developmental fund? The blockexplorer shows that the devs addresses havnt made a single tx in a 3 weeks m8. The only people selling are the miners. Miners always sell. Why is this so confusing for everyone?



This is true. So just imagine how low the price is going to go once the development funds get dumped! I'm just sitting on the side lines with this coin. No need to pay attention to this coin for another 8 months.

If you're a developer this looks like a good chance to learn about cryptocoins and get paid in them.
732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] 1st ETH fork | UPDATE v0.4.0 | GUI WALLET on: October 23, 2015, 08:40:52 PM



I would recommend someone in the community become a SHIFT "Evangelist". I would donate 10% of my $SHF to someone who wants to try and do it.

The devs are doing so much. It would be nice to seem someone new helping out. There is huge potential for this coin to make many people into millionaires.


733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] 1st ETH fork | UPDATE v0.4.0 | GUI WALLET on: October 23, 2015, 06:06:46 AM
I'll make a btc donation for the explorer.

Wow, I am really impressed with the response!

We agreed to pay Peter from Etherchain 0.2 BTC monthly or the equivalent in SHF. We had to pay a 2 month payment of 0.196 last week for the nodes which we had to cover from the premine, that is why I am trying to spend as little of it as we can.

Right now we have two options. If the community can collect the funds needed for the block explorer that would help very much. If not, we will pay for it as soon as possible, guaranteed, but that could be until next week.

Let us know what you think.

As I said, I'm in.

what about this type of explorer https://etherscan.io/ ??

nice explorer!


Is etherscan.io open source?

734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Currency has been released on: October 22, 2015, 11:55:48 PM



Does this coin split up the file & encrypt each piece with my private key? Does it then geographically re-distribute the file pieces to where they are most often requested from?


735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][THC][1.7] The Hempcoin (THC) ✿ UPGRADED POW/POS ✿ Spread the Seeds ✿ EPIC on: October 22, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
I wondering if anyone want to buy 1000 thc for a lose on my part of 0.000000009 btc.If so pm me because the coin is in danger of being delist.
RIP the offer this stand hmu before to late i even low the btc price.


The price of THC hit 28 satoshi yesterday on BITTREX. Why would you sell it for so cheap? Not many people trade with "Newbie" accounts. Especially when the deal is too good to be true. It sucks but it's the way it goes.

If you want to sell them to me you would have to send them to me first. Is that acceptable?


736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [AXIOM] AxiomMemHash, Schnorr Sigs Implemented, APOS 3.0, AXH 2.0 Proposed on: October 22, 2015, 05:53:39 AM



Yep shit. sell all your coins.


737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] DigiCube - EARN BOUNTIES FOR SERVICES AND PROMOS      🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀 on: October 22, 2015, 01:48:06 AM



Does this coin got spots?


738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SHIFT] 1st ETH fork | UPDATE v0.4.0 | GUI WALLET on: October 21, 2015, 09:18:52 PM
dev why no work block explorer?

Looking at your post history, you might need to consider learning about something called patience. The issue is being resolved as we speak.

long, very long

people love to panic, issue is being taken care off, you could always pay for your own explorer if you like.

The issue is we just missed a payment to the site's admin. Since we are still careful what to spend premine on we have to wait a few days until we can pay in BTC instead of SHF.

It would mean a lot if the community wants to help out but we will get there eventually on our own too.

Kind regards

How much are you going to pay for this? You can leave BTC or SHF address here, so everybody can donate a small amount to maintain the block explorer.

I will be the first ones.



Please be transparent about everything. We want to know how much you are paying each month for this explorer.


739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: October 20, 2015, 11:34:47 PM
We should contact poloniex or bittrex to list AMP now!!!

Every Omni asset will soon be traded on the Omni dex..



Let's hope Omnidex comes with lots of users and volume.


740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AMP - The Currency That Powers Your Attention On Synereo on: October 20, 2015, 05:52:16 PM
I want to sell my 400000 AMPs for 3.5BTC.  Contact me if interested.

less than sale price ?? why

No exchange for AMP now. I need some BTC.



Also there was an additional 600,000,000 coins created. Didn't the people who bought the crowdsale get double the coins?


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