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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 10:50:30 PM
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ArticMine thank you. I learned something new and important. Do you have any citation to backup your claim of Apple's recommend policy of using an insecure password and their DRM?


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Tap Turn Passcode On.
Enter a six-digit passcode. Or tap Passcode Options to switch to a four-digit numeric code, a custom numeric code, or a custom alphanumeric code.
https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204060

Edit: I stand corrected Apple's default is a 6 digit numeric number as the password also trivial to crack.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 10:28:13 PM
The reason the FBI could get a third party to access the iPhone is because DRM, unlike real encryption such as what is used in Monero, is based on snake oil rather than sound mathematics.

Edit 2: The same or similar Apple DRM that the FBI broke, was used from 2009 to 2014 to censor Bitcoin and is currently used to censor Monero

Are you saying that Apple is lying when it says the user has the private keys and not Apple?

Apple was very disingenuous here.

The iPhone in question used a combination of real encryption and DRM. If the user uses a secure password then the real encryption kicks in and cracking the DRM will not let the investigators in; however if the user follows Apple's recommendation and uses a 4 digit number, as the password, then the real encryption is effectively neutered and only the DRM remains. The user's password controls the key of the real encryption. Apple controls the keys to the DRM.

Apple relied on its proprietary iOS, and keeping the source code of iOS secret (private key 1) to frustrate the investigation. Apple  also has a private key (private key 2) that controls what operating system software in installed on an iPhone. It also enforces what software can be installed on an iPhone. The FBI would have been perfectly content with the source code of iOS (private key number 1) and the installation key (private key number 2). This would have made the situation equivalent to someone using GNU PG (Licensed under GPL v3) the very software Edward Snowden used for his leaks. Use GNU PG with a 4 digit number as the password and it can also be trivially cracked. Use it with a secure password and it becomes impossible to crack.  The FBI had reason to believe that the terrorist had used a 4 digit number for the password.

Technically one can argue that Apple did not lie, since Apple did not know the 4 digit number that controlled the user key; however since the real encryption was already neutered the only keys that mattered were firmly under the control of Apple.  

Edit: This is not a complex system. Apple went out of its way to make it seem complex, in order to make the debate about real encryption rather than what was the real issue namely DRM.  Richard Stallman identified the issue of malicious features in proprietary software back in 2002. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.en.html In this case they were used to frustrate a perfectly legal anti terrorism investigation .
743  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 09:23:52 PM
Well if you are not hiding from the government and just want privacy, then we could just use a centralized mixer.

Maybe, Panama Papers seem relevant here, if you are relying on a third party to not disclose information then you may not be safe from future leaks of whatever source. Some of the Panama Papers cases involve divorce settlements, business partners, etc., for example, and nobody really believes that divorce lawyers have the NSA working for them. They too have the info now too, regardless. Same could be said for nosy neighbors.

If you aren't very good at security, maybe you can't even trust yourself not to accidentally disclose in the future, but at least with Monero you can personally retire the wallet, securely delete the keys and not have to worry about that.


The Panama Papers example is very relevant. In fact for most people an agency such as the NSA is an insignificant risk at best. The real risk comes fromr large corporations after marketing data and attempting to protect their "intellectual property". Remember Superfish? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superfish This malware was installed on computers sold to consumers by Lenovo. What this malware did was to break SSL encryption by using a bogus root certificate that was trusted by the installed Windows operating system. Lenovo has not learned its lesson and they are still at it.  https://thehackernews.com/2015/09/lenovo-laptop-virus.html. Then there is DRM which is as big or bigger threat to privacy. Remember the Sony rootkit 11 years ago? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal

One simply cannot rely on any product that is mass marketed to consumers by large corporations such as Microsoft or Apple for privacy or security. In fact I will go as far as to say that if a computer or device has a proprietary operating system and supports DRM, one should not have an expectation of privacy with respect to any data on the computer or device.

Edit 1: In the recent Apple vs FBI dispute it is actually the FBI that was the good guy. Why because what the FBI wanted to do was break Apple's DRM (Jailbreak an iPhone) in order to pursue a legitimate and lawful anti terrorism investigation. The reason the FBI could get a third party to access the iPhone is because DRM, unlike real encryption such as what is used in Monero, is based on snake oil rather than sound mathematics.

Edit 2: The same or similar Apple DRM that the FBI broke, was used from 2009 to 2014 to censor Bitcoin and is currently used to censor Monero
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 08:53:48 PM
So is monreo worth investing in or is this another pump and dump scam.  It seems to have more upsides than the other alt coins but that could just be people speculating rubbish.

My take on this is that it depends a lot on the time frame. My opinion is that Monero has very strong fundamentals that can lead upside over the medium to long term. On the other hand a day trader using margin can very easily get stopped out long before any fundamentals are reflected on the price. The recent drop has been very close to lock step with Ethererum. Interestingly Monero is at a significant support level while Ethrereum is not. It is very possible that we see a decoupling at this point.

Investing in Crypto currency is not for the faint of heart. One can see a complete loss of the invested funds and also explosive upside returns. Even Bitcoin has seen some extreme movements like a drop from over 30 USD to 2 USD in 2011 followed by a rise over the following two years from 2 USD to over 1000 USD. Then followed by a low just over 150 USD. Monero is even more volatile.
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
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It looks like it's just a miner installed/ran with a script to hide the window. Probably does include free malware with purchase Wink

It is at best junk and at worst paid for malware. If you wish to mine Monero just start the client and enter:

Code:
start_mining 44AFFq5kSiGBoZ4NMDwYtN18obc8AemS33DBLWs3H7otXft3XjrpDtQGv7SqSsaBYBb98uNbr2VBBEt7f2wfn3RVGQBEP3A 2

The above address in the Monero project donation address and 2 is the number of threads. Mining to the project donation address is a simple way to support the Monero project.

To mine to a different address enter it instead of the above address. To mine using a different number of threads replace 2 by the number of threads.  I have found that half of the total number of processor threads is optimal.

Edit: Check https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/ to verify the above address.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 12, 2016, 03:25:24 PM
What would happen with Monero if Poloniex went down?

What happened with Bitcoin when MTGox went down?
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 11, 2016, 11:12:12 PM
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 do you need a seperate wallet for monreo or can you use block chain.info

Once cannot use a Bitcoin wallet for Monero.  Here are the options for Monero wallets:

https://getmonero.org/getting-started/choose

MyMonero is similar to Blockchain.info.
748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alts dropping is not the beginning of BTC bull market on: April 11, 2016, 03:47:29 AM
People are waiting for the next pumping coin while getting out of eth where hype gone, they really don't care the next one is btc or lisk or whatever, as long as it could give you decent profits. (short-term)
yes indeed traders now a days just looking for easy profit doesn't think of holding coin for long term investment.
I think bitcoin price still good keeping it bet 415-430 is not bad anyways, but as many of us still holding for the
coming halving maybe that's why alt was affected as well.

Some of us are interested in the long term and not concerned about the short term. I do not like Bitcoin long term because of the blocksize issue.
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 11, 2016, 03:32:28 AM
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What about DASH then? DASH and XMR both went up at pretty much the same rate at the same time during this last run up, but XMR went down and DASH stayed up. What the heck does that mean?

Take a look at DASH/XMR with settings of all and 1 day. https://poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash. DASH is actually trading towards the low end of its historical range since November 2014 so it is not surprising that DASH held up better this time.


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one is a shitcoin, the other isnt.

Well that's not really fair. DASH and XMR are both very real, legitimate coins, despite what either community trolls say about the other. The fact that their chats are always pretty similar seem to show that the market agrees with me. What I don't understand is why XMR would detach from DASH and fall so drastically.

Any (non "scam" or "shitcoin") theories on whats going on?

To be blunt I do not see this as really relevant here. The issue is that the market is voting for or against Bitcoin rather than for or against Monero, Ethereum, DASH etc.  I suspect to a large degree this is over the blocksize issue in Bitcoin and based to a large degree around short term perceptions and emotions rather than any long term fundamentals.

My take is that:
1) Monero is not impacted by the blocksize scaling issue.
2) DASH for better or worse is not perceived to have this scaling issue. Furthermore because of the pending DASH Evolution it is far from clear how DASH is impacted by the blocksize scaling issue.
3) Ethereum may actually have worse scaling issues than Bitcoin but the market has yet to figure this out.
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 11, 2016, 02:37:29 AM
Help me with some personal perspective, here.

To me, it seems a little bit like XMR was the catalyst for this entire bloodbath weekend for alts.  XMR took that massive pounding on the huge selloff Friday evening.  I could be wrong, but it sure seems to me as though at the time, XMR was the only alt significantly in the red.  Most of the rest of the leaderboard on Polo was still green until sometime Saturday, and then the selloff was pretty far and wide Saturday night and Sunday.  

Am I imagining this?

Does it mean anything that XMR would be the canary in the coal mine?

I think you got things kind of backwards here.  If you had been paying attention to the Bologniex casino at all lately, you'd notice all of a sudden you'd have these days where numerous altcoins were all up 15% with the entire board going green.  Now we have the same type of days in reverse with them all going red.  It seems like there's some type of big money indicies that can't be bothered to investigate any of these coins and just started hedging in them.  Now they seem to be reverse hedging for BTC halving.  In the past, you never really saw days like this where all altcoins follow each other no matter how bad or good.

Started during the BTC up move in October and has been more or less that way ever since, with a slight divergence during the period of maximum velocity for ETH (ETH was sucking in capital from other alts regardless of what BTC did). It seems incorrect in this environment to try to analyze the movements of any particular alt without understand the backdrop of the overall BTC/alt trend.

I suspect it is more those alt-coins that differ from Bitcoin in a significant way. Litecoin and Dogecoin have hardly moved this time around. It seems to me that Ethereum was the leader this time around. Monero was the second and was impacted more because of a much smaller capitalization relative to volume.

Edit: It would be interesting to see if Monero decouples in a significant way from Ethereum in this, although at this point I suspect the Monero market capitalization is simply too small for this to happen yet.
751  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 11, 2016, 12:34:04 AM
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What is a red hammer?

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/h/hammer.asp
http://www.onlinetradingconcepts.com/TechnicalAnalysis/Candlesticks/Hammer.html

752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 11, 2016, 12:02:29 AM
Red hammer just got painted on the daily XMR/XBT chart.
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alts dropping is not the beginning of BTC bull market on: April 10, 2016, 11:12:51 PM
There is no block size debate.  Core conceded on 2mb hard fork in 2017.  Segwit + hard fork  = 3.2mb blocks.  Unless you demand 8mb immediately, there is nothing to debate.

I could not care less about 1 MB, 3.2 MB or 8 MB in 2017. What I am interested in is in the possibility of a few TB, PB, or more per block in say 50 years. Why because it comes to financial matters I take the point of view that if one takes care of the long term the short term will take care of itself.

I would suggest reviewing Warren Buffett's 9 rules. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/12/05/9-rules-that-helped-warren-buffett-produce-a-18261.aspx. This is how the rich got rich.

Now compare this with how the poor are kept poor:

0% Down. No payments until 2017 30% APR starting from the date of purchase.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Alts dropping is not the beginning of BTC bull market on: April 10, 2016, 09:56:23 PM
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We got Eth scammers and Dash scammers piling into this thread praying BTC doesn't rise, which would crater all their scam coins.  Too bad it's going to happen.  Everyone knows it.  No matter what kind of weak propaganda you try to manufacture, BTC is about to go up a lot.

Ethereum or Dash being or not being a scam does not change the fundamental issue with Bitcoin and the blocksize debate. Over the last 24 hours we have seen the ETH/XBT pair having much higher liquidity than XBT/USD with ETH/XBT accounting for over 50% of Bitcoin trades vs approximately 17% for XBT/USD.. This if anything should be a wake up call for Bitcoin. I commented on this in the Monero thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg14493286#msg14493286.

My take is that the market is very uneasy about Bitcoin over the blocksize debate. Instead of selling for fiat some investors are looking at alt-coins. If some of these of these alt-coins have serious fundamental problems of their own, they may not be the winners in the end; however that does not mean that Bitcoin itself has some very serious issues.

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I think you may have a point there

You can rest assured that no matter how much energy is spent in debating the Dash instamine, it will not make Bitcoin scale.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 10, 2016, 08:29:53 PM
There are many assumptions about the Bitcoin markets that are simply no longer the case. The most blatant is that the  most liquid XBT markets or the "major" markets are XBT/USD pairs. This is simply no longer the case Ethereum accounted for over 50% of Bitcoin trading, over the last 24 hours, with by far the largest Bitcoin market being the ETH/XBT pair on Poloniex. By comparison XBT/USD  accounted for around 17%. during the same period. One can see this by comparing https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/?markets=all#markets with https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/?markets=main#markets. Note I have excluded the exchanges that have no trading fees mostly in China due to the high probability  of fake trades; however they may be some legitimate trading going on there.

XMR/XBT on Poloniex accounts for 1.8% of Bitcoin trades followed by DASH/XBT and MAID/XBT on Poloniex at just under 1% each. To put this into perspective XMR/XBT on Poloniex is comparable to XBT/USD on Coinbase at 1.9% and was actually ahead earlier today.

What we are witnessing is a shift of Bitcoin trading away from fiat to alt-coins, with by far the preferred choice being Ethereum followed by Monero and Dash.  We have also witnessed Poloniex becoming the largest Bitcoin exchange by volume. We are also seeing a lot of the value in Bitcoin moving towards the alts rather than fiat. One possible outcome here is that a shift from Bitcoin to another alt-coin will not necessarily imply a lost in trust in Crypto currency as a whole.

So what do I see is the impact on Monero. First the fundamentals have not changed over the last few days. Secondly Monero is starting to be traded as a hedge against Bitcoin's problems. Over the short term this will lead to extreme volatility as we have seen lately; however over the long term this can be very bullish simply because of Monero's minuscule market capitalization when compared to Bitcoin. One significant factor here is that there are ample supplies of XMR available at a price. This will fuel both liquidity (good) and volatility (bad) over the short term. Also if Ethereum stumbles it is quite possible for a major upside move in Monero with possibility Dash and Maidsafe coming along for the ride.
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 10, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
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We don't know what the price will be tomorrow and he's making prediction at 4 and 14 years, and I'm the stupid?
lol


It is in many cases way easier and less risky to invest with a 4 - 14 year time frame than to speculate with a 24 hour time frame.  Many of Warren Buffett's ideas about stocks can also be applied to crypto currencies. Here are his 9 rules http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/12/05/9-rules-that-helped-warren-buffett-produce-a-18261.aspx

Take for example (rule 1) the 50 year rule and apply it to both Monero and Bitcoin. Consider how much technology has changed in the last 50 years and then consider which one of Monero or Bitcoin is better placed to adapt to the technological changes for the next 50 years.
757  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 09, 2016, 10:06:34 PM
I'd agree if BTC wasn't such a mess.

But it's not.  Segwit + Core conceded on hardfork = 3.2mb blocks in 2017.  I see the glass ceiling on BTC price coming off mostly around 8-10MB blocks, so it's not far off.  

But about Monero, I think I saw Peter Todd claiming the Bitpay or something or other company's idea for dynamic block size was a "broken" idea the other day.  Wasn't Bitpay's idea the same thing Monero already uses?  What was the difference in the two?  I would find it hard to believe he would say that solely because of a missing non-zero block reward.  Someone needs to question the Todd and get him to clarify these statements as they relate to Monero.

Monero's adaptive blocksize limit relies on a miner penalty that depends upon the block reward. It simply will not work in a coin without a tail emission or demurrage since once the block reward runs out there is no miner penalty. Yes this includes most Cryptonote coins starting with Bytecoin. Aeon's I understand is the exception among Cryptonote coins. My take is that the tail emission in Digitalnote is way to low for the adaptive blocksize limit to work but I have not looked at this particular case in detail. Bytecoin may because of the two year premine / ninjamine lead provide a very good case on how an adaptive blocksize limit can fail in the absence of a tail emission or demurrage. The small block group in Bitcoin do make a very good case here.

As for Bitcoin or Bitcoin like coins it will also not work. One notable exception is Dogecoin because it has a tail emission. The other alternative to a tail emission would be demurrage so one could for example add a Monero style adaptive blocksize limit to Freicoin.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 08, 2016, 10:54:39 AM
That 20k dump into the wall was another short. Look at lending offers here and compare to the 1 minute chart:

http://monerodice.pd.to/polo.php | https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/poloniex/xmrbtc

If we have, dare I say, a real long term buyer whale that is for the most part being fed by shorts this can get real interesting.
759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: April 06, 2016, 06:13:24 PM
I came across this guy stating that Polo does not have a Money Transmission License:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/4cmzit/is_kraken_lending_out_customer_funds/

Doing a quick search I found another one which looks at the issue closer and for more exchanges:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3krum0/the_ticking_time_bomb_of_crypto_exchanges_and/

FUD? If not, what could be the possible consequences?



In the case of Poloniex it is pure FUD since they are registered as an MSB with registration number: 31000055869515.  Go to https://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/msbstateselector.html and search for the registration number or for Poloniex under legal name.

Although according to a comment in reply to the same point made on the first reddit link:

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Being registered as a MSB does not mean they have the money transmission licenses.
Those licenses are extremely expensive. Registering as an MSB is trivial.

The second reddit link makes this more clear.  The issue is not about the federal Fincen MSB registration, which appears to be fairly easy, but with all the state money transmitter licenses.  Unlike coinbase, kraken or gemini, it does not appear that poloniex has made any effort to comply with state laws.  Perhaps they are relying on the fact there has been no state enforcement against crypto only companies, but that does not mean they don't face the risk that states crack down.

Note too that Poloniex did withdrawal from servicing customers in NY due to the bitlicense, which obviously made it impossible for them to argue they didn't need to be registered in NY.

I do think companies like poloniex are at risk of this sort of crackdown.  It is what prompted me to move all my XMR out of them last year when the rumors of a crackdown started.

Yes state level compliance in the US is the issue here, which is why I edited my post. One must also keep in mind here the issue of compliance in every international jurisdiction where they do business.

Edit: Here is the 50 state survey on Money Transmission Licensing http://abnk.assembly.ca.gov/sites/abnk.assembly.ca.gov/files/50%20State%20Survey%20-%20MTL%20Licensing%20Requirements%2872986803_4%29.pdf Montana is one of two states that does not have any requirements. So Poloniex is compliant at the state and federal level. Where it gets interesting is their out of state clients.
760  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2016-04-06] Bitcoin in need of restructuring, say Cornell researchers on: April 06, 2016, 04:58:46 PM
Here is a link to the original paper http://fc16.ifca.ai/bitcoin/papers/CDE+16.pdf
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