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1041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 14, 2015, 03:09:30 AM
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"soon" what?

The 0.9 release.
1042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2015, 05:18:20 AM
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100% PoW is the only way to be safe.

Even PoS+PoW hybrids don't work.  Novacoin (PoS + scrypt) just got hacked.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=143221.msg13168415#msg13168415

Can't wait to find out if Dash's PoS + X11 scheme is susceptible to the same technique!   Cool

I am not familiar with the attack on Novacoin. There are various attacks against POS coins that have been discussed at length. The attack I formulated, the Second Pirate Savings and Trust, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897488.msg10182752#msg10182752 is based entirely on borrowed stake, which the coin network simply cannot detect. The borrowed stake is generated with the model of the infamous First Pirate Savings and Trust.

With Dash such an attack is actually a lot simpler since there is no need for a bear raid / ponzi to generate the borrowed stake. One simply offers to borrow Dash, from those with less than 1000 Dash, and pay a rate somewhat below the net masternode return. The proceeds are then used to set up a large number of masternodes all with borrowed stake. The attacker could then for example put up a large amount of Monero as collateral to short Dash while at the same time unleashing the rouge masternode attack on the Dash network. Monero is actually a good choice here because the DASH/XMR rate has been very stable over the last few months and the current development vs lack of updated binaries dynamic in Monero.

Edit 1: There is simply no way that the Dash network or the attacker for that matter can detect when the Monero developers are going to release version  0.9 of Monero.
Edit 2: In this case the attacker is playing the DASH/XMR spread (short DASH long XMR) so sudden rise in the price of XMR before the rouge Dash masternode network is set up would likely derail the attack.
1043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2015, 04:03:45 AM
The greater cryptocurrency community should establish a day where everyone withdraws all of their crypto into their own wallets. Large holders will have to start early because of the daily withdrawal limits.

The idea would be to have an organized bank run every year to destroy the excess money supply created by exchange operators and derivatives.

Some exchanges would collapse. There'd be tons of volatility. Could be fun.

Fractional reserve is not going to go away. This is why proof of stake coins do not work.
1044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2015, 03:52:14 AM

Sorry for possibly sounding stupid, but what are you guys talking about in regards to M0, M1, and M2? Why does this make monero more liquid than Bitcoin?

Here are the definitions for the United States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply. What I called M0 is more properly called  Monetary Base or MB in the USD equivalent.

1) Notes and coins in circulation (outside Federal Reserve Banks and the vaults of depository institutions) (currency)
Monero equivalent examples: Monero in an active personal wallet
2) Notes and coins in bank vaults (Vault Cash)
Monero equivalent examples: Monero held by an exchange (actual amount held by the exchange in thier wallets) Monero in an offline wallet stored in a bank vault on some other secure place etc.
3) Federal Reserve Bank credit (required reserves and excess reserves not physically present in banks)
Monero equivalent examples: Not applicable.

M1 and higher. Some kind of fractional reserve backed in whole or part by promises to pay. Bitcoin example: Goxcoin. Contract for difference with a broker such as AvaTrade (partially baked by USD) etc.  Monero example. Promises to pay Monero by a short on Poloniex partially backed by Bitcoin, Dash etc
1045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 13, 2015, 12:11:52 AM
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I think the default assumption is that all exchanges are running fractional reserves and that bitcoin, like any other currency, will have an M0 and an M1 and M2 and so on because of deposits, futures, and other derivatives.

Actually in this case it would be Monero, which at this point is way more illiquid than Bitcoin. The effect is to force delivery of M0 so if the exchange does not have 100% M0 reserves it places further upward pressure on the price. Even if the exchange has 100% reserves there are critical factors related to delay in delivery such as the time it takes to clear the funds on the blockchain (number of confirmations), retrieving the moneroj from a cold wallet, synchronising the node and wallet, if it has not been actively used and last but not least the emotions of the prospective seller. It is easier to sell if the moneroj are already on the exchange than if the seller has to jump over a set of hoops in order to get the moneroj to the exchange in the first place.

On a more practical note the current Monero lending market on Poloniex has not been stress tested during an actual real market short squeeze on Monero, particularly one where the margins of the shorts are completly wiped out and the short squeeze continues.
1046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero vs Boolberry Chess Challenge and CryptoNote technical discussion on: December 12, 2015, 09:53:35 PM
39. Rg1
1047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 12, 2015, 09:45:44 PM
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Microsoft does not invest in projects that are unlikely to succeed or are led by amateurs. Vitalik is young, he has the capacity to learn. Ethereum is as revolutionary to cryptocurrency as web was to the internet.
Microsoft has had a terrible track record in many cases when it come to investing. The offer to purchase for Yahoo in early 2008 just before the 2008 market crash came to mind.
1048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 12, 2015, 09:20:00 PM
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Our unfunded little project has had 1335 commits in the 591 days since we took over as stewards. In that time our 32 contributors have added 283 704 new lines of code, modified 17 388 lines of code, and removed 1056 lines of code.
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Combined with no tagged binary release in over a year.

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If you want to short, come to daddy    Grin
Something tells me this can be the perfect setup for a brutal short squeeze.

Edit: In this kind of market I am a strong believer in staying long and taking delivery. Taking delivery has been proven to be the most effective method of squeezing the shorts to the wall. In this case, in order to take delivery, this means compiling the Monero software from source on GNU/Linux.
1049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 12, 2015, 08:28:26 PM
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Could you please fix the links in the quotation. Thanks

Edit 1: Here is the original Reddit post with working links. https://www.reddit.com/r/tech/comments/3wgcrz/the_ethereum_computer_securing_your_identity_and/cxwe78p?context=3 Thanks to dEBRUYNE

Edit 2: Links in the original quotation are now fixed.
1050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 12, 2015, 08:54:56 AM
I agree with the hold / average down strategy for XMR at this point. In terms of CAD it is closer to 125%  over this years low's (0.60 CAD vs 0.26 CAD) due to the rise of XBT and the fall of CAD. The latter due to the fall in oil prices.

In the medium to long term I actually see the downward risk of XMR to be way lower than for XBT in terms of either major fiat currencies or precious metals. While the upside for XMR is likely to be also way higher than for XBT. This is due to the blocksize / scaling issue in XBT, which is not going away because of segregated witness or the other proposals. Contrary to the most commonly held opinions, I remain convinced that there is a very significant chance that XMR could even replace XBT as the lead crypto - currency due to the blocksize / scaling issue in XBT which is simply not a problem with XMR.

Then there remains the whole development discrepancy. XMR is the sixth most actively developed crypto currency https://www.coingecko.com/en?sort_by=developer_score, while at the same time there has not been an official release in over a year. The result of this is to give a completely false impression of development in XMR to many market participants. My take is that this has created an extremely dangerous situation for anyone who is trading XMR short term on the short side.

Edit: Here we go again: Over 13,000 unconfirmed transactions in Bitcoin with most of the blocks full. https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
1051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Unveiling the truth over the major Monero scam on: December 12, 2015, 04:46:13 AM
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There is no reason why Monero cannot add the same type of value to Dash pending the development of Dash Evolution, including the speeding up of Darksend and the blinding of the masternodes. I noted this on another thread.

Mixing Dash is actually very simple.

1) Sell Dash for XMR on Poloniex
2) Send XMR to own XMR address
3) Send XMR to a second XMR address with a mixin of say 5
4) Sell XMR for Dash on Shapeshift.io

Voila! Mixed Dash. No need to wait for weeks or worry about masternode blinding.

Edit: When sending the XMR to Shapeshift.io also use a mixin of say 5

Cross chain mixing using Monero does work right now.
1052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: If DASH is so confident why are they trying so hard to beat Monero? on: December 11, 2015, 11:25:59 PM
I really don't get it. Every time I log on here I see this perpetual war between Dash and Monero. Why?

Just do your own thing and let the best coin win. There's no need for this endless war. It's getting seriously fatiguing.

Besides, the price of both coins tends to go up and down together anyway.

Yes. DASH/XMR has been in flat trading range for close to six months. https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#xmr_dash
1053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: December 11, 2015, 11:18:25 PM
How do I go about gaining online access to my character to either recover my character or probate my character's estate as the case may be.

Thanks

SirJacket should be able to send you the credentials.

I sent you 100 CAN (green herbs), they should come in handy if you wish to use them for the yearly health challenge.

Just enter "CONSUME CAN 100" in the Agora Marketplace command line.  Grin

Thank you. I am in and figured out how most of the commands work. As for the health challenge my character is maxed out for eating and drinking already.
1054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: December 11, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
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In 2009, who could conceive that one bitcoin would cost hundreds of dollars?
In 2009, who could conceive that one bitcoin would cost 50 cents

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October 5, 2009
An exchange rate is established

New Liberty Standard publishes a Bitcoin exchange rate that establishes the value of a Bitcoin at US$1 = 1,309.03 BTC, using an equation that includes the cost of electricity to run a computer that generated Bitcoins.
http://historyofbitcoin.org/
1055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -> Monero Community Hall of Fame <- on: December 11, 2015, 04:19:37 AM
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"Darkcoins" is funnier.  Nobody knows about the rebrand.   Grin

There is also humour in doing this "by the book" by "officially" recognising the re-brand.   Grin
1056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Crypto Kingdom - 1991 Retro Virtual World(City) on: December 11, 2015, 04:06:59 AM
How do I go about gaining online access to my character to either recover my character or probate my character's estate as the case may be.

Thanks
1057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -> Monero Community Hall of Fame <- on: December 10, 2015, 11:38:07 PM
Can we please fix ajiekceu4 with 7666 XMR. He or she belongs in 8th Dan and should also be recognized on https://getmonero.org/getting-started/donate/ with the other 8th Dans and above. Thanks

Edit: Should not "Bag of Darkcoins" be replaced with "Bag of Dash" to reflect the name change that took place last spring.
1058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero vs Boolberry Chess Challenge and CryptoNote technical discussion on: December 10, 2015, 06:15:26 AM
38. Be4
1059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 09, 2015, 05:49:10 PM
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Where can you see the amount of xmr available for lending?

https://poloniex.com/lending#XMR
1060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XMR] Monero - Marketing Team & Tactics on: December 09, 2015, 08:14:14 AM
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gmax and peter todd don't see monero as a threat to bitcoin so that's why they hate on and fear DASH but push monero.

Dash is not a threat to any alt-coin let alone Bitcoin ever since the Evolution announcement.  I mean 12- 18 months for a stable prototype with estimates in the 3-5 year range for a "gold" release. This is an eternity in crypto currency.

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We will be writing the software for this project in stages, the first stage will take about 2 months to have a very early prototype for Dash Evolution that includes a basic implementation of DashDrive, Primitives, DAPI and a simple T3 wallet. In six to eight months, we should be entering testnet phase with most basic functionality. In 12-18 months, we plan for the first release version (a stable prototype).
https://www.dash.org/evolution/
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