I misinterpreted percentage values in that chart have a constantly rising difficulty rate included and it starts from moment of delievery.
yea, on a second thought it's probably calculated from the point if a miner would be deployed at this moment right now, right?
...suddenly the whole situation looks much more ugly 

cointerra is really leading the market with the competitive pricing (if they are delievering...but that company looks most professional until now).
I think they could become the biggest player in the future.



yea BFL,     what more to say.... some guy at #bitcoin-assets mentioned a site with a count of all the undelievered orders until now. (not sure if official, but there were around 5000  )

this.
I'm not familiar with the current volume of sales on SR.
But from what my flatmate tells me about his student life, word of btc is spreading exponentially at his university since april. especially in the several subcultures with a tendency to drug use.
SR doesn't even represent 1% of worldwide blackmarket and the provided feedback option gives consumers the possibility to be much more safe getting decent quality instead of depending on the little dealer at the corner.
I don't know how governments will handle this but I'm sure that market sector will grow easily by more than 200% within the next years.
Even if govs attempt to take action, it will become a cat-and-mouse game similar to sites offering pirated material.
  

I have to admit that after I've read about the recent release of another model by cointerra competition is quite heavy atm. especially if i look at projected profits (http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/)
from a miner's perspective it's simple maths to put money in a preorder right now instead of waiting and hoping for a good offer by AsicMiner.
A little update how 2nd gen development is going really wouldn't hurt right now.

i just was about to start...

besides the trilogy of kar-wai i have to add southkorean director Park Chan-Wook's "Trilogy of Revenge" here. (I don't know if he belongs to a certain movement or if he's just a "one-man driven innovation").


The first movie is "Sympathy for Mr Vengeance".

plot: A recently laid off factory worker kidnaps his former boss' daughter, hoping to use the ransom money to pay for his sister's kidney transplant.

Perhaps caused by the low budget Chan-Wook couldn't completely unfold this story in the spectular way like the other two. But you already get a good impression how he really cares about every character in a story and knows how to arrange them. Unfortunately it flopped quite hard and Chan-Wook was forced to make a commercial movie (he even admitted this in an interview) to get his following projects financed.
This movie is "JSA" or "Joint security area". Even though it is apparently oriented towards the common taste it has an interesting plot that shows the life of two soldiers securing the border between north and southkorea.

After the commercial success the next movie was funded and ready to be made.
"Oldboy"

plot: A guy named Oh Dae-Su  is kidnapped and imprisoned for 15 years in one room and is finally released just with the purpose to find his captor with in 5 days.
This time Chan-Wook shows all his craftmanship. The arrangement of scenes, used colours, lighting, camera angles and good acting makes this movie a piece of art.
In combination with the strong classical soundtrack I even started to prefer the term "opera" instead of "movie" when speaking of it.

Th conclusion of the trilogy is build with
"Lady Vengeance"

plot:After thirteen and half years in prison for kidnapping and murdering the boy Park Won-mo, Geum-ja Lee is released and tries to fix her life. (a bit vague but i don't want to spoil it)
This is one of a handful of movies in my life that really provoked controverse feelings inside me after watching. It changed my whole theory of how I dealt with the feeling of revenge and justice before and if a human being should or could weigh them up against each other. The classical soundtrack again harmonizes perfectly with the opera-like style of the scenes.
sidenote: In the asian release Chan-Wook added the subtle effect of all colours slowly fading away over time until the whole picture is black and white in the end to support drive of the story. Concerned producers removed this effect for the release in western cinema.

I have to add that all three movies include several really violent scenes (especially oldboy). That's perhaps another reason why his movies weren't very successful in the west but just in the fanbase for asian movies.
In an interview Chan-Wook put this into perspective with the argument that every expression of violence and death has an important meaning and strongly is related to the character who executes it in his movies,
while he criticized that in western movies hundreds of anonymous background actors are murdered just for entertainment and the viewer is ok with it because he isn't emotionally connected at all.
I also have to add that scenes with sex or violence can be much more drastic in asian movies in general because asian audience handles it in a completely other way. (a good example is the fighting scene in KillBill with the bride and the crazy 88. This scene was presented in full colour in asian cinemas, while the western version was changed to black and white because the common audience can't handle the red colour of so much blood in the west)

After the trilogy Chan-Wook oriented towards new innovative and experimental approaches. He directed the already mentioned "Stoker" or "I'm a cyborg, but that's ok".
I can't wait for more movies from this guy, because at a certain point of sucess a director can show and express the true quality of his art without any restrictions by producers.

hey first ascent, i finally sobered up 
so yea where to begin.
relating wong kar-wai's movies i have perhaps a quite stupid question. some years ago i talked with a fully-hearted cineast about in the mood for love and 2046.
i can't remember everything he said at that time, but he saw a heavy connection between the different characters of these movies. His analysis was that both movies represent a connected story just in different timezones. He even had the opinion that in several key scenes the arrangement in 2046 expresses a continuation of those in "in the mood for love" and it shines through as kind of "pale memory" during the whole movie.
can you confirm this? I've seen these two with a pause of several years inbetween so I was not sure if he was right about it.
well, it seems I have to do a double feature next weekend 

well the 64bit architecture is nice to have,
but I'm sure it will take some time until Apps really take advantage of it. (at least if i compare it to personal computers. a lot of endconsumer software still hasn't full 64bit support)
everything should run quite smooth though if it's well optimized

720p video recording at 120 FPS:
that's just a gimmick. it won't take long until this becomes a standard for every smartphone in this price range.

fingerprint sensor:
it still sounds more like a gimmick to me than a real security factor.
Could make more problems than it solves and it's defintively no reason for buying with the NSA case in mind.


besides...
They still haven't integrated a microSD-cardslot, right?  

nope, leone did a bunch of good western films ("Once upon a time in the west" being the best known) but this one is a gangster movie about a former prohibition-era jewish gangster who returns to manhattan 30 years later to face the ghosts of his life.
a lot of the usual suspects are acting in it. Robert De Niro, James Woods, Joe Pesci, Burt Young.

have to go to bed now, but that's on my schedule for tomorrow...

Once upon a time in America

there are several cuts: 229 min | 139 min (re-cut) | 259 min (2012)

Sergio Leone worked more than 20 years on this masterpiece. Ennio Morricone provided the soundtrack before any footage was shot, Leone just wandered to possible locations listening to the soundtrack for more than 10 years, then worked on the movie for another 10 years. The first version was more than 6 hours long but producers forced him to cut it down to 139 min for a cinema release.
Later he made a director's cut, unfortunately he died before he could realize his plan for a version in full-length.
It's hard to keep track of the different versions, I didn't even know the mentioned 259 min on imdb.

Yi Yi is already in my dvd collection...but also haven't seen it yet. (i started collecting movies long ago and it's hard to catch up with my constantly filling library. for good movies you really need to have the time to watch them thoughtfully.)

but that trailer for three times...looks very promising. I love long shots without any cuts.

I think we need a new thread for asian movies...don't want to constantly post OT 

another old one: "Harold and Maude" (1971)

It reminds me of a speech George H. W. Bush held after the collapse of USSR on 11 September in 1990:

„We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective—a new world order—can emerge: a new era—freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor. Today that [a] new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we've known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak. This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come.“

thanks for this one, nice interpretation and I love that arabian sound.

nevermind...
respect though for posting via phone (24h bitcoiner hu?  )
personally that screensize would drive me nuts in some threads here...

don't want to be disrespectful...
but i just leave this here

vycid, sorry for bothering your cuddling attempts...
but could you guys please change your style of quoting? it's not necessary to requote an already 7-quote-long talk (only if it's worth for getting the context...but that is not needed here).
my middle finger which lays on my mousewheel says Thank you!

sorry to interrupt...i see vycid is making friends again (watch his avatar - he's sucha lovely bear, you just have to cuddle him )

if somebody missed it, this list is very good to keep track of the market and the available and soon to be delievered asicminers and their calculated profits.
http://decentralizedhashing.com/bitcoin-mining-equipment-table/

yea, kar-wai's movies are really a class of their own in the way how they are directed. (his style also seems to be more accessible for western people. i don't how to describe it, but it's something with how he arranges scenes or cuts them, or the plot is build up)
Unfortunately I have neither seen "Days of being wild" or "Three times". i put them right up my list  .
I have watched a lot of asian movies after seeing "Oldboy" in the cinema some years ago. (big Park Chan-wook fan since)
But I haven't kept track of the asian moviescene for the last 5 years so I'm sure I missed out a lot of stuff...have to do some backlog in the future.

some of my favourite asian movies: (sorry for OT, so not all romantic but have to spread this stuff   )

Stratosphere Girl (mixed european-japanese crew with german director, it's in my asian section anyway)
Save the green Planet
Monday
Séom - The Island
Bittersweet Life
Ploy
Haze
19
Vital
Kikujiro's summer
Tampopo
"Xich Lo" aka "Cyclo"

and of couse the revenge trilogy by park chan-wook (Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Oldboy, Lady Vengeance)