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761  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC big Movement.... &.....ALT.......... on: June 11, 2020, 05:07:03 PM
This is the marketcap dominance of Altcoins :


762  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 11, 2020, 04:59:49 PM
There goes $9,200 & $9,100
763  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 11, 2020, 04:38:14 PM
Interesting...

764  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 11, 2020, 03:15:25 PM
There goes $9,500
765  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 11, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Do you think Kraken will be able to follow through with their announcements? What would the reason be for them not implementing the changes to allow those staking facilities to their users? It beings negative publicity if they announce something but do not follow through with it.

I am still waiting for Kraken to follow up on their (many months old) announcement that they will implement Dash staking.
They really need to step up their game here.

Also i have difficulty understanding Huobi's staking (but really it is mining ?) model and how they can promise a 200% income bonus.
I am not even sure what their exact ROI is with staking Dash.

Link : https://www.hpt.com/

~snip~


I think Kraken will follow through on the staking of Dash (and Cosmos) on their platform, but they sure are taking their sweet time after their initial first announcement.
Maybe these platform changes take longer to implement then users expect, or maybe they have other reasons for delaying the actual implementation.

I just hope the adding of new altcoins to their platform (which they seem to be focused on lately), is not the primary reason for the delay.
Because if that is indeed the reason for delay, the implementation of staking could take a lot longer as it then becomes a matter of priority to them.


766  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 10, 2020, 08:27:39 AM
I wonder how many people will sign up there on Huobi to start staking DASH and which percentage of existing Huobi users will take advantage of it.



I am still waiting for Kraken to follow up on their (many months old) announcement that they will implement Dash staking.
They really need to step up their game here.

Also i have difficulty understanding Huobi's staking (but really it is mining ?) model and how they can promise a 200% income bonus.
I am not even sure what their exact ROI is with staking Dash.

Link : https://www.hpt.com/







It looks like while locking your Dash, you are getting a percentage of a token (HPT) that has its own price volatility
(see : https://www.hpt.com/hptinfo & https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/huobi-pool-token/).
That is not exactly staking Dash to build up more Dash.

767  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 09, 2020, 06:23:10 AM
Dash Economics Discussion Series

Link : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/dash-economics-discussion-series.50278/#post-222015

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Join Dash Core Group’s Ryan Taylor from 6/10-6/15 as he hosts daily discussions with the community on the proposed changes to Dash economics.

The discussion will provide community members with the opportunity to share feedback and ideas surrounding Dash economics with Ryan and Dash Core Group.
Once these discussions are complete, we will take all feedback into consideration, followed by the submission of all economic proposals to the network for a vote.

Source : www.dash.org/forum
Credits : HeyMichael


Ashton Addison from CryptoCoinShow interviews Ryan Taylor about the new economic proposals to improve Dash as a store of value.

Link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HsRherFdag

Source : https://www.reddit.com/r/dashpay/new/
Credits : NibiruHybrid


768  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 08, 2020, 03:58:47 PM
Looking at the original masternode payment schedule, it is pretty clear that Evan Duffield never intended at any point in time to increase
the miners blockreward, rather the opposite.

Original masternode payment schedule

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if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; //25.0% - 2014-10-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20; //30.0% - 2014-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20; //35.0% - 2014-12-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40; //37.5% - 2015-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40; //40.0% - 2015-02-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40; //42.5% - 2015-03-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40; //45.0% - 2015-04-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40; //47.5% - 2015-05-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40; //50.0% - 2015-07-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5% - 2015-09-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0% - 2015-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5% - 2016-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0% - 2016-03-23

From the get go there was a clear initiative to diminish miners blockrewards and increase masternode blockrewards over time (2 years time period).
There was even an idea floating around to have masternodes directly control miners hashing power at some point, to keep miners from getting too centralized
and forming too much of a dominating factor in Dash.

With the implementation of ChainLocks, there is no reason anymore to keep the current blockreward allocation status quo.
Stating that miners blockrewards should be increased, goes against the very roots of this cryptocurrency.
It is in my view very not-Dash.

There is and always have been an overall focus on masternodes in this cryptocurrency, even Dash Platform focuses heavily on Masternodes with its
Dash Platform fees. The reality is that this is a masternodes-focused cryptocurrency, not a miners-focused cryptocurrency.
And i am pretty sure that new investors will understand this. 
769  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 08, 2020, 12:55:40 PM


*snip*

Why was that reallocation schedule abandoned ?



Well, there had to be room for the decentralized budget and i think at that point in time both miners and masternodes were very close to each other with
regards to percentage of block rewards. I guess it made sense back then to just freeze it at 45 / 45 / 10.
  
I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if we continued with the original masternode payment schedule where masternodes were heavily preferenced over miners,
while including the 10% for the decentralized budget.

I'm guessing Dash would be out of the top 100 by now if that had happened

There is more to Dash then just the blockreward structure. Dash would still have made all these technological advancements and still would have made adoption progress in countries like Venezuela.
770  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 08, 2020, 12:49:16 PM

Meanwhile Dash Core Group is trying to improve its trustless full masternodes offering by proposing a change to the blockreward allocation : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/consensus-mechanisms.49135/page-3#post-221975


I fully support increasing MN allocation!



As do i. To be fair though, it is not just the case of trying to improve Dash trustless full masternodes by re-allocating more of the blockrewards to masternodes (from 45% to 54%).
There is also the case of trying to flatten Dash circulating supply during the next five years and trying to get a grip on the sell pressure (which seems to mostly come from miners
immediately selling all their mined Dash, regardless of the price).

I have masternodes myself and i have stopped selling my masternode payments months ago. I wonder how many miners are in a situation that they can afford to do the same,
or even care all that much about Dash longterm.

The way i see it, if this proposal passes Dash will be more or less returning to its original masternode payment schedule, while still being able to get funding for its decentralized budget.

Original Masternode Payment Schedule in 2014 (note : there was no decentralized budget then, just rewards for masternodes and miners and it was the main reason that made me
invest longterm in Dash) :  

if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; //25.0% - 2014-10-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20; //30.0% - 2014-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20; //35.0% - 2014-12-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40; //37.5% - 2015-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40; //40.0% - 2015-02-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40; //42.5% - 2015-03-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40; //45.0% - 2015-04-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40; //47.5% - 2015-05-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40; //50.0% - 2015-07-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5% - 2015-09-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0% - 2015-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5% - 2016-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0% - 2016-03-23
 
We changed above Masternode Payment Schedule in 2015, when Evan Duffield introduced Dash decentralized budget.
So instead of reaching 60% for masternodes, and 40% for miners at some point in 2016, the schedule settled on 45% masternodes, 45% miners, 10% decentralized budget.
(current situation)

The Masternode Payment Schedule change being proposed by Dash Core Group recently (2020) will return us pretty close to that once planned 60% for masternodes / 40% miners
(namely 54% masternodes, 36% miners, 10% budget), but at a much slower rate (spread over 5 1/2 years).

I can live with that, as i believe this will improve Dash economics in the longterm.

Looking back, the original masternode payment schedule had an incredibly high rate of change, a masternode reward increase & miners reward decrease of every 1 or 2 months.
That will not be the case here, it will be spread out over a long period of time.

Why was that reallocation schedule abandoned ?



Well, there had to be room for the decentralized budget and i think at that point in time both miners and masternodes were very close to each other with
regards to percentage of block rewards. I guess it made sense back then to just freeze it at 45 / 45 / 10.
  
I do wonder sometimes what would have happened if we continued with the original masternode payment schedule where masternodes were heavily preferenced over miners,
while including the 10% for the decentralized budget. Would Dash ASIC miners still have emerged ? That part seems like inevitable to me.
771  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 06, 2020, 03:10:44 PM

Meanwhile Dash Core Group is trying to improve its trustless full masternodes offering by proposing a change to the blockreward allocation : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/consensus-mechanisms.49135/page-3#post-221975


I fully support increasing MN allocation!



As do i. To be fair though, it is not just the case of trying to improve Dash trustless full masternodes by re-allocating more of the blockrewards to masternodes (from 45% to 54%).
There is also the case of trying to flatten Dash circulating supply during the next five years and trying to get a grip on the sell pressure (which seems to mostly come from miners
immediately selling all their mined Dash, regardless of the price).

I have masternodes myself and i have stopped selling my masternode payments months ago. I wonder how many miners are in a situation that they can afford to do the same,
or even care all that much about Dash longterm.

The way i see it, if this proposal passes Dash will be more or less returning to its original masternode payment schedule, while still being able to get funding for its decentralized budget.

Original Masternode Payment Schedule in 2014 (note : there was no decentralized budget then, just rewards for masternodes and miners and it was the main reason that made me
invest longterm in Dash) :  

if(nHeight > 158000) ret += blockValue / 20; //25.0% - 2014-10-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*1)) ret += blockValue / 20; //30.0% - 2014-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*2)) ret += blockValue / 20; //35.0% - 2014-12-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*3)) ret += blockValue / 40; //37.5% - 2015-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*4)) ret += blockValue / 40; //40.0% - 2015-02-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*5)) ret += blockValue / 40; //42.5% - 2015-03-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*6)) ret += blockValue / 40; //45.0% - 2015-04-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*7)) ret += blockValue / 40; //47.5% - 2015-05-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*9)) ret += blockValue / 40; //50.0% - 2015-07-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*11)) ret += blockValue / 40; //52.5% - 2015-09-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*13)) ret += blockValue / 40; //55.0% - 2015-11-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*15)) ret += blockValue / 40; //57.5% - 2016-01-23
if(nHeight > 158000+((576*30)*17)) ret += blockValue / 40; //60.0% - 2016-03-23
 
We changed above Masternode Payment Schedule in 2015, when Evan Duffield introduced Dash decentralized budget.
So instead of reaching 60% for masternodes, and 40% for miners at some point in 2016, the schedule settled on 45% masternodes, 45% miners, 10% decentralized budget.
(current situation)

The Masternode Payment Schedule change being proposed by Dash Core Group recently (2020) will return us pretty close to that once planned 60% for masternodes / 40% miners
(namely 54% masternodes, 36% miners, 10% budget), but at a much slower rate (spread over 5 1/2 years).

I can live with that, as i believe this will improve Dash economics in the longterm.

Looking back, the original masternode payment schedule had an incredibly high rate of change, a masternode reward increase & miners reward decrease of every 1 or 2 months.
That will not be the case here, it will be spread out over a long period of time.
772  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 06, 2020, 06:47:38 AM
Do you have any links for any of these websites you refer to? Can you post some links here please so we can see them?



I recently found out about the possibility of shared masternodes for dash. So there are various websites that offer such an service, do you think that maybe one provider of shared masternodes could become too powerful?

These are the hosting services i know of, but only a few of them provide shared hosting (most seem to require the full 1000 Dash)

https://docs.dash.org/en/stable/masternodes/hosting.html

I also found another site that seems more focused on shared masternode services : https://www.cryptomorrow.com/2019/06/01/sharedmasternode-services/
I don't know how accurate / up to date this site is or how reliable the stated shared services are. Some of them do match on our own Dash hosting services listing.

The shared services are not trustless of nature, meaning they require a level of trust to be placed into these services and into the people behind these services.
They are 'trusted' services.

Some exchanges are also implementing (or are about to implement) staking on their platforms, this is different then shared hosting but interesting nonetheless.
Link : https://www.kraken.com/en-us/features/staking-coins
  
With regards to Pumuckel21 question, i think it depends on the profitability that is being offered by these shared services. Meanwhile Dash Core Group is trying to improve its
trustless full masternodes offering by proposing a change to the blockreward allocation : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/consensus-mechanisms.49135/page-3#post-221975

This could make Dash full masternodes more attractive to investors and in time more competitive to centralized (shared) services like the ones mentioned above.
773  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2020, 02:05:57 PM
https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-reminder-risks-chloroquine-hydroxychloroquine

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EMA is reminding healthcare professionals to closely monitor patients with COVID-19 who are receiving chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine, given the serious side effects that can result from treatment with these medicines.

Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, which are authorised for malaria and certain autoimmune diseases, have been used to treat patients with COVID-19 but their beneficial effects in this patient population are not established.

Several observational studies in COVID-19 have reported that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are associated with an increased risk of heart problems, a well-known side effect of such treatments, including cardiac arrhythmias and cardiac arrest.

Quote
In view of the emerging data, some EU countries have suspended or stopped clinical trials investigating chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine in COVID-19 patients.
For some trials, including WHO’s large multinational Solidarity trial, enrolment of patients to trial arms with these medicines has been suspended.
774  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 02, 2020, 03:15:57 PM
Just bought the dip, thanks for the cheap coin

There will be a time when fools realize there actions ...... in a negative way

We my brother will keep floating towards our dreams !!!

To be honest I bought 0.08 this morning at $10,1xx

It pissed me off when I saw the dump so I bought 0.02 on Coinbase 10 mins ago to absorb my anger Grin

i am a bit surprised Coinbase is still online after this dump.
775  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which fastest LN, LTC, Dash? on: June 02, 2020, 10:03:07 AM

* Dash does not have any routing problems like LN has, which means that its transactions will be both instant & successful (reaching receiver), when using the correct transaction fee (which is
   lower then Litecoin and i suspect it is even lower then LN heavily subsidized fees).


Thank you for this explanation full of enough technical details, but I have a question about the fees. Do you think Dash fees are lower than LN fees?
For example, if we assume that we will pay a $ 100 phone bill, what will be the Dash fee and how much will the LN fee be? Do you have an idea for that?

I know what Dash, Litecoin and Bitcoin's median transaction fees (in usd) are from bitinfocharts : https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-ltc-dash.html



LN has its own median base fee, which can be found here : https://1ml.com/statistics



This median base fee is currently a fixed 1 satoshi  (which is very very low in usd value, but could increase with a rising Bitcoin price).
From 99 percentiles there is a fixed 5 satoshi fee.

There are talks by Lightning Network devs about raising the minimum median base fee to 5 satoshi, thereby flipping the current fee model and introducing a fee market.
This would most likely make LN median fees more expensive then Dash median fees.

Link : https://www.coindesk.com/as-lightnings-economy-takes-shape-devs-are-split-on-proposed-fee-hike

On the other hand there are also talks about possible raising Dash transaction fees to defend against spamming

Link : https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/minimum-fees.49137/  

For now though it looks like LN has lower fee costs then Dash, that is if the median fees on transactions are comparable to LN median base fee
(so that we are comparing apples with apples) and if LN percentiles stay below 99.

Also there is this to take into consideration :

Quote
Experiments they ran using their simulation led them to conclude that the “negligible fees” are massively subsidized by the large Lightning nodes.”
Rosenthal adds that most transactions pay roughly 10% of the cost of their routing, which could potentially work in a different context.
Source : https://news.bitcoin.com/researchers-scathing-lightning-network-analysis-finds-flaws/
776  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will an asset-backed currency or altcoin solved the world economic problems? on: June 02, 2020, 05:00:20 AM
I think there is a trend developing in the world for some time now that leads away from FIAT based cash towards digital cash.
This digital cash can be a country's own centralized and state-controlled cryptocurrency (China, Russia, Venezuela and other countries)
and it can also be decentralized cryptocurrencies gaining adoption in certain countries (example : Dash adoption in Venezuela).

In order for decentralized crypto projects to gain adoption to function as pure digital cash, they will need :

* Speed in their transaction settlement (sender --> protected against doublespending --> receiver --> spendable by receiver)
* Ease of use
* Secure
* Low transaction fees
* Function as FIAT cash

There can also be decentralized crypto projects that have a focus on something else then functioning as pure cash (for example crypto projects that
focus on smart contracts or focus on providing stability through backing by other assets or focus on functioning as digital gold).

I suspect it will take at least 5 more years before this ongoing move towards digital cash / digital payments / society digitization fully materializes and
replaces certain FIAT structures.

  
777  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 02, 2020, 04:31:38 AM
Who can spot the difference here ? What separate one specific cryptocurrency from the others on Messari ?


Source : https://messari.io/screener/my-screener-7BA39819 (my personal selection of watched cryptocurrencies, excluding stable coins and most exchange tokens)

Clue : it is not in green, it is not in red and it is not in black.

Is it the "blue" tick that Dash has ?

I didnt know the messari dashboard, it looks quite useful.
I'll investigate more.

Yep, it is indeed the "blue" tick : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg54514091#msg54514091



I find Messari very useful, as it has numerous metrics, filters, provides live data and you can select which cryptocurrencies to monitor.
778  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: June 02, 2020, 04:09:58 AM
Who can spot the difference here ? What separate one specific cryptocurrency from the others on Messari ?


Source : https://messari.io/screener/my-screener-7BA39819 (my personal selection of watched cryptocurrencies, excluding stable coins and most exchange tokens)

Clue : it is not in green, it is not in red and it is not in black.
779  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin dilemma. on: June 01, 2020, 02:42:09 PM
i would wait and see if Bitcoin dominance (65,1%) continues to weaken, giving room to further Altcoins dominance.
780  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin dilemma. on: June 01, 2020, 02:39:04 PM
I think you should hold onto your altcoins :

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