Dash just recently got listed on Coinbase, Coinbase Pro and will also be listed on Binance US. If you have read any of the posts in this thread, you should also know that plenty of other exchanges have absolutely no problem listing Dash.

Saying that "our market no longer wants to accept this coin" is therefore incorrect. Saying that "large exchanges delist because of security" is also incorrect, as the delisting is about exchanges trying to follow a new set of recommendations, issued by the FATF. A few exchanges seem to have a problem with following these FATF recommendations and decided to delist specific coins (not just Dash but 5 coins in total), to avoid dealing with this problem all together. So it is not about security, it is about how certain exchanges deal with FATF regulations by cutting out certain privacy coins.

So far the delisting of privacy coins concerns a few exchanges in the following countries :

Japan (Coincheck)
UK (Coinbase UK, CEX.io)
South Korea (OKEx Korea, Upbit)

And on state level : New York State (because of its Bitlicense, it is not very crypto-friendly to any cryptocurrency).

It is too soon to tell if this will be followed by other major exchanges. With regards to Dash specificly :

Dash can comply to the FATF travel rule to the same extend as Bitcoin. Both Bitcoin and Dash have open blockchains, both have public senders and receivers of which data can be gathered and both Bitcoin and Dash have a very low level of optional CoinJoin mixing activity on their network (Dash less then 1%, Bitcoin 4%).

Unlike Monero and Zcash and these other privacy-centric coins, Dash is far more focussed on providing instant, secure and low cost transactions and just offers optional privacy as one of its many services.

Dash is also a fork from Bitcoin and should be viewed as having the same legal status as Bitcoin. By delisting Dash you may as well delist Bitcoin. Dash is not a privacy-centric (only focussed on privacy) coin, but is by some exchanges unfairly treated as one.

I think most exchanges regnonice that Dash has the same legal status as Bitcoin and will therefore not delist it.
For those privacy-centric coins that shield both their sender and receiver (so the travel rule can not be complied with at any level), the situation could be different. They could face increased scrutiny from government agencies, who could put pressure on exchanges to delist these.

Here is summary of services and accomplishments that separate Dash from Monero, Zcash and other coins that are fully dedicated to providing only privacy :

* Dash has Instantsend set as default on most of its transactions. This means Dash can be received within a few seconds, protected against double spending and free of charge. This is Dash greatest achievement and a number of exchanges have thrown their support behind it.

* Dash developed ChainLocks which significantly improves it's security against 51% attacks. Dash network is therefore more secure then Bitcoin. Something that Coinbase Pro acknowledge by lowering their deposit conformations for Dash to just 2 confirmations. Any transaction that is ChainLocked is immediately secure against doublespending, can not be reversed and is assured of a place in a block. This means Coinbase Pro could have set number of deposit confirmations to just 1 and still have the same level of transaction security.

* Dash developed a multi-tier network by splitting the blockreward, thereby creating a miner tier and a full nodes (masternodes) tier and is working hard at providing a third tier of end-users & merchants that can directly connect to the  Dash network through a decentralized API (new to the world).

* Dash has a decentralized governance and budget system in place, where masternodes can vote over budget proposals and the network itself can be polled about which direction to go.

* Dash is working towards changing itself into a decentralized platform, on which to run additional decentralized services. Dash plans to offer data-type driven contracts, of which metadata can be stored on the masternodes itself, through Dash Drive.

* Dash offers optional privacy on its transactions by having implemented CoinJoin into their core code (the same CoinJoin that's supported on Bitcoin's network through several Bitcoin wallets, the same CoinJoin that can actually be directly issued on the Bitcoin network without any third party wallets help). The usage of this optional privacy on the Dash network is very low (less then 1%, lower then Bitcoin)

News topic is a bit old (1 week old), but i myself forgot to post anything about this in here when the news actually
broke and its important information.
-qwiz

Depends if those Bitcoin users specificly switched to CoinJoin mixing capable wallets or if they were already on that wallet and using it before CoinJoin mixing got implemented there.
Only difference is that the Dash Core wallet supports CoinJoin mixing from the go and Dash Core Group (DCG) is building support for it to other DCG supported wallets as well.
While with Bitcoin it may not be directly supported in the official Bitcoin wallet (people mostly know how to do Coinjoin mixing through some specific third party wallets like Wasabi and Samourai),
but it can be done directly on the Bitcoin blockchain, without any third party wallet needed (Dash Core group made some Dash PrivateSend transactions and did those on both the Bitcoin network and the Dash network
and they were identical.

Link : https://blog.dash.org/dashs-privacy-features-and-compliance-c27d79254ff1
Direct Link tp pdf : https://drive.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://media.dash.org/wp-content/uploads/Dash-PrivateSend-Position.pdf




Fun fact : Coinjoin mixing on the Bitcoin network is much larger (4%), then the CoinJoin mixing on the Dash network (less then 1%)

Link : https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/percentage-coinjoin-bitcoin-transactions-triples-over-past-year    
Link : https://dashradar.com/charts/privatesend-transactions-per-day

Yeah, i just read about it (i actually missed the announcement i think) .

Link : https://medium.com/ferrumnetwork/dash-and-ferrum-network-to-increase-adoption-in-africa-fbd3d1d118dd


Dash Nigeria made a good partnership with Ferrum Network i think

http://178.254.23.111/~pub/Dash/Dash_Info.html (Block/Trx Info)





I'm checking if there is any news about a stress test. 2 MB blocksize is hardly affected right now.

Update 1 : Stress test confirmed by tungfa
Update 2 : according tungfa it was DeltaEngine(they are posting on Discord- DashNation)

http://178.254.23.111/~pub/Dash/Dash_Info.html (Block/Trx Info)





Interesting.. another stress test from our unknown tester / attacker ? Its a bit strange that the 2 mb blocksize is hardly filled by all of this,
maybe a case of a lot of mixing going on ? Or maybe its the early phase of a stress test ?

Update 1 : according tungfa this was (it seems over now) a by Telegram announced stress test.
Update 2 : according tungfa it was DeltaEngine (they are posting on Discord- DashNation)

I don't think Satoshi had anonymity in mind when he/she/them created Bitcoin. I think the main goal was introducing a new trustless, peer to peer, decentralized payment system network to compete at some level with the traditional fiat system. A new system that happened to have (pseudo) anonymity.

Are you telling me that exchanges have the ability to directly connect senders and receivers to Monero transactions?  Senders and receivers that are suppose to be shielded on-chain ? I thought only Monero users can view their own transactions?  (if they remember to which address they sent it). Are you telling me if someone hacks an exchange, they can obtain sender and receiver information about Monero transactions ? Thereby completely de-anomyzing Monero transactions ?

I don't think exchanges have that kind of information, they only have KYC information on their customers and are now required to pass additional sender and receiver information from transactions that go through their exchange, which will simply not be possible with certain cryptocurrencies (specially those that shield that information on-chain even from them).

Anyways, FATF is clearly setting up a global monitoring system, where suspicious looking transactions can be flagged and checked for sender and receiver information, without FATF having to go back to exchanges to request that sort of information. Sort of a global operating upstreaming data information system.

 
It can be eliminated as a feature, but it's Dash believe that optional privacy on its transactions is a necessity, not to be discarded lightly. By the way, Bitcoin users will also always have the option, through using those wallets that support CoinJoin. Not much difference there. Also I think both with Dash and with Bitcoin wallets, it is up to the user to initiate the actual CoinJoin mixing inside that wallet.

Maybe it was the main selling point in Dash early years, when Dash only had privacy and could be considered a privacy-centric coin (which included marketing it as such). As shown above, Dash developed other services and rely on those much more and firmly grown out of that privacy-centric label and niche market. Comparing Dash to Bitcoin is not fun, it's a necessity that is only available to Dash (Monero and Zcash have developed completely different blockchains and a completely different privacy technology).

Time will tell if Dash closeness to Bitcoin code-base and low level use of CoinJoin on both networks, is enough to make exchanges deny any further Dash delisting requests from official organisations. If that will indeed be the case, then Dash has accomplished its mission.

Set aside in Dash so far i know. Point is that one person can not bring down the whole
Dash crypto market. There are much larger market factors needed to cause that.
Market factors that impacted all the altcoins.

Thats bullshit of course. Dash fell as hard in this bearmarket as pretty much all other altcoins.
This means other factors are involved. If this was intended as a joke, its a very bad joke.
If you actually believe it, then thats even worse.

https://dashnews.org/ryan-taylor-new-dash-core-ceo-founder-evan-duffield-moves-advisory-role/
Date : 17 april 2017


After leaving Dash Core Group in 2017, Evan Duffield created Dash Labs and is researching scaling methods for Dash there (and some other undisclosed research topics).

https://www.dash.org/2017/07/05/dash-labs-2/

This travel rule and the FATF ruling are recommendations, they are not mandatory. Some exchanges felt pressured to delist. Time will tell if more exchanges feel pressured by it or not. Exchanges have the option these days to integrate TRISA (open source solution) to comply with this travel rule. This should protect Dash to a degree, I'm not sure if it will also protect those coins, that have shielded senders and receivers.

Dash can comply to the FATF travel rule to the same extend as Bitcoin. Both Bitcoin and Dash have open blockchains, both have public senders and receivers of which data can be gathered and both Bitcoin and Dash have a very low level of optional CoinJoin mixing activity on their network (less then 1%).

Unlike Monero and Zcash and these other privacy-centric coins, Dash is far more focussed on providing instant, secure and low cost transactions and just offers optional privacy as one of its many services.

Dash is also a fork from Bitcoin and should be viewed as having the same legal status as Bitcoin. By delisting Dash you may as well delist Bitcoin. Dash is not a privacy-centric (only focussed on privacy) coin, but is by some exchanges unfairly treated as one.

I think most exchanges regnonice that Dash has the same legal status as Bitcoin and will therefore not delist it.
For those privacy-centric coins that shield both their sender and receiver (so the travel rule can not be complied with at any level), the situation could be different. They could face increased scrutiny from government agencies, who could put pressure on exchanges to delist these.

Here is summary of services and accomplishments that separate Dash from Monero, Zcash and other coins that are fully dedicated to providing only privacy :

* Dash has Instantsend set as default on most of its transactions. This means Dash can be received within a few seconds, protected against double spending and free of charge. This is Dash greatest achievement and a number of exchanges have thrown their support behind it.

* Dash developed ChainLocks which significantly improves it's security against 51% attacks. Dash network is therefore more secure then Bitcoin. Something that Coinbase Pro acknowledge by lowering their deposit conformations for Dash to just 2 confirmations. Any transaction that is ChainLocked is immediately secure against doublespending, can not be reversed and is assured of a place in a block. This means Coinbase Pro could have set number of deposit confirmations to just 1 and still have the same level of transaction security.

* Dash developed a multi-tier network by splitting the blockreward, thereby creating a miner tier and a full nodes (masternodes) tier and is working hard at providing a third tier of end-users & merchants that can directly connect to the  Dash network through a decentralized API (new to the world).

* Dash has a decentralized governance and budget system in place, where masternodes can vote over budget proposals and the network itself can be polled about which direction to go.

* Dash is working towards changing itself into a decentralized platform, on which to run additional decentralized services. Dash plans to offer data-type driven contracts, of which metadata can be stored on the masternodes itself, through Dash Drive.

* Dash offers optional privacy on its transactions by having implemented CoinJoin into their core code (the same CoinJoin that's supported on Bitcoin's network through several Bitcoin wallets). The usage of this optional privacy is very low (less then 1%)

This is currently Ethereum's one of many problems, ICO hype is over and there is no new ICO hype to be exspected with such SEC
scrutiny and with SEC history of taking legal action to those that do not register their ICO with them. Then there are the current
ICO projects, that are still selling ETH because of smart contracts that got unlocked. To make things worse Ethereum network
is currently maxed out with regards to transactions and its transaction processing power. And its not all that userfriendly with regards
to usage to begin with (having to go to some gasstation to get correct gas prices and overturn default gas price calculations is not very userfriendly).

And still people believe that Ethereum price can easily recover from all this and do a 10x increase.
At some point crypto projects will get evaluated by investors, which directly impacts the amount of new large investing
they are likely to receive. Guess whats on top of investors wish-list ? s-c-a-l-a-b-i-l-i-t-y

Let me state this once more :

OKEx Korea is delisting these 5 privacy coins
OKEx is not delisting these 5 privacy coins (if they are indeed all 5 on this exchange, i know Dash is .. margin trading included)

Two different exchanges, two different size of exchanges, two different exchange listings of crypto assets !!
HUGE HUGE HUGE difference.

So please no more talking about OKEx delisting, it is OKEx Korea delisting.

That's is indeed to most important question, I think Dash can insure compliance to the FATF travel rule through TRISA. But I'm not so sure about closed blockchains, where sender and receiver are shielded (either optional like zcash or active by default like monero).

They do state :


I just don't know if those existing blockchains also include closed blockchains / privacy blockchains.

War against Monero & privacy coins, & Dash's new Coinbase listing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3355&v=WxEUO05-aoQ

Interesting comparison between Dash and Monero and they also go into the war on privacy and the delisting of both coins.
It is a pretty fair youtube video review of both cryptoprojects and shows some opinions on where this war on privacy
is leading to, while providing some background info on both projects.