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761  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 06:52:34 PM
I'd love to say I'm finito here, But someone will say something that makes me chime in, or they would'nt post at all..

To sum up BADecker:

An elder and younger monk who were not allowed to touch women, walked along the bank of a river.. as they get to the bridge, which was broken, they see a woman. The woman states her child is on the other side, and there is no way to get over due to the strength of the water. The elder monk, picks her up, and wades across the water to deposit her on the other side.

A week later, they pass the same spot, the water is lower, the bridge is fixed.. the younger monk says, "if we're not allowed to touch women, why did you carry her across the water?" To which the elder monk replied, "why are you still carrying her?"

Ps, BADecker, how old are you?
762  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 06:22:46 PM
Vile language? I've tried my damndest not to swear, or be overly insulting, but what I have written is more true than you know, dont take my word for it, take JA-BAAL-Ons word for it, since this diety is YOUR diety, this, no-one else will deny, your on your own sucker!!!

You say god has no destruction, but he killed the children of egypt? Made others pay for one mans fault? Says it all..

If your god was oh so as powerfull as you think, then he'd have withdrawn his breath from me a long time ago, if I was as bad as you clearly claim.. the fact he allows me to continually provide a plethora of truths that do nothing but make you realise how useless your points of argument actually are to the erodite... since they know what I'm saying, you clearly, do not.

I have CRUSHED your evidence with nothing more than Ack's.
763  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 06:08:21 PM
BADecker.. you are the only person I like arguing with, but you really do need to answer the proper questions if you hope to save anyone.. people eagerly await responses, that never come.. (reminds me of your god)

I think we got off on the wrong foot, and I'd like to have a serious discussion, but you are in complete denial of everything I have typed, so there is really no point in speaking to you. Perhaps I should post the proof that freemasonry held the first rites of initiation in the great pyramid 64.000 years ago? That their God's name is indeed Ja-Baal-On? That the Ja is yahweh? Are you even aware your god's name is yahweh? I actually learnt this when studying rosslin chapel, and was the one who actually discovered the steps leading beneath the building. At least publically, for there were obviously those who knew of this before I told someone else what I believed I found.. What, dont like the fact I have shown, that yahweh is but one god? Of many?

You absolutely must be a fickle woman. Why? Because a few posts ago you were telling me to get off this thread. Now you like to argue with me.

Actually, you really are not fickle... at least not in this way. Can you help it if a little of the order of God shines through me to enlighten and brighten your day? Of course you can't. You only move in the ways your base emotions move you.

I'm not surprised that your boss, Satan, continues to let you talk with me some. His hope is that he somehow will get me just like he has you.

Well, he won't. Why not? Jesus promises to keep me now that He has me.

How long do you think it will take Satan to withdraw you before he loses you entirely, like he almost did the last time?

Smiley

Back to the governmental confuse and lose the public with your biblical bullshit huh? Cant see the wood for the tree's huh? Your one branch short of a bush, cant even admit your god is YAHWEH, a jewish creation in the guise of FREEMASONRY's god JA-BAAL-ON, designed to prevent YOU from reaching the promised land (salvation) by making you believe there is only ONE god, but as I said, by giving GOD a name, even that of GOD, you kill him. People move on. God's names change. People get fed up with Yaweh, maybe move back onto BAAL, (since he has been the most productive miracle worker, even if it was by taking the kids of egypt, and then parting the red sea in return.)

By giving god a name you give him a death sentence you muppet, for all things created by man, will be destroyed by man. ALL things.

And when we evolve to never needing a tongue, or ears, god will be pretty much useless, because his word will be as pointless as it is today.. just ask the homeless man you starved to death.

Edit: So  you think you did not starve a homeless man to death? When a butterfly flaps it's wings, it creates a storm at the other side of the world.

By suggesting the homeless man should be starved to death, you created the starvation of a homeless person at the other side of the world.
764  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
BADecker.. why do you always ignore damn fine questions relating to your diety of choice? You'll quite happily post links to plenty masonic writing's, but not admit anything I have proven to you, despite it being, believe it or not, in your favour? Yet you think you can insult me?

Assume for one second I am god's newest messenger.. the old gods are dead. Your country has less than 1000 days left.. Thank you for the power I needed to make this a fact.. you sit insulting god's messenger'(s) with your out of date, and now clearly proven to be jewish, masonic, I'll say cabalistic, book. YAHWEH IS BAAL IS ON. the THREE mighty messengers..

Wanna buy a gun, so you can put those homeless out of their misery quicker without having to be nice, and more importantly, honest, with your fellow man?

Yeah, you'll buy the gun, even encourage folks like me to buy one, but you wont admit, your a jew lover?

Well, you started off like you were talking sense.

I don't "ignore damn fine questions relating to" my "diety of choice." My questions are the things that have brought many of the answers that I have found to light.

Get all the masons in the world together, to write a copy of everything written, so that you can call it all masonic writings.

First you ask for controversy by writing things that you know other people won't accept, then you say that I am insulting you for responding that I don't accept your beliefs as my own, and explain my beliefs somewhat that are opposed to yours? Do you always fish for insults like that? Or have you been drinking again?

From about this point in your post above^^, you aren't making any sense. I'm not trying to insult you, but for this little child to understand the point(s) you are making, you will need to write it differently.

Smiley

Once you obligate yourself to freemasonry, you are obligated to them. All the work you do is their's. Everything you speak you do as their representative. I do not know if you are a mason, but as a christian, you are guilty of encouraging attacks on the homeless, more importantly, those too old to defend themselves, And by denying Ja-BAAL-ON, you deny YAHWEH, FACT.

God has stripped Freemasonry of its power. He did this by sending His holy, innocent Son, Jesus, to die on the cross for the sins of the WHOLE world. Now you, and all the other Freemasons, have the complete right and authority to step out of Freemasonry if you so desire.

Smiley

You think I'm a mason? NO, I have already stated, I have access to books, even google wont post links to.. and I study freemasonry in order to destroy it.. and moses did NOT work miracles, he waited for his god to do so.. impatiently I may add.. To strip freemasonry of it's power is to strip it of it's diety, which includes, unfortunatly for you, yahweh. NO? So yahweh was happy to help freemasonry get to power by joining up with BAAL and ON at whatever time, but when they got too corrupt, he went where exactly? How did the other two FORCES, BAAL and ON feel about this?

All moses did was talk to himself, explaining why he THOUGHT - I AM.
765  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:48:00 PM
BADecker.. you are the only person I like arguing with, but you really do need to answer the proper questions if you hope to save anyone.. people eagerly await responses, that never come.. (reminds me of your god)

I think we got off on the wrong foot, and I'd like to have a serious discussion, but you are in complete denial of everything I have typed, so there is really no point in speaking to you. Perhaps I should post the proof that freemasonry held the first rites of initiation in the great pyramid 64.000 years ago? That their God's name is indeed Ja-Baal-On? That the Ja is yahweh? Are you even aware your god's name is yahweh? I actually learnt this when studying rosslin chapel, and was the one who actually discovered the steps leading beneath the building. At least publically, for there were obviously those who knew of this before I told someone else what I believed I found.. What, dont like the fact I have shown, that yahweh is but one god? Of many?
766  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:36:40 PM
BADecker.. why do you always ignore damn fine questions relating to your diety of choice? You'll quite happily post links to plenty masonic writing's, but not admit anything I have proven to you, despite it being, believe it or not, in your favour? Yet you think you can insult me?

Assume for one second I am god's newest messenger.. the old gods are dead. Your country has less than 1000 days left.. Thank you for the power I needed to make this a fact.. you sit insulting god's messenger'(s) with your out of date, and now clearly proven to be jewish, masonic, I'll say cabalistic, book. YAHWEH IS BAAL IS ON. the THREE mighty messengers..

Wanna buy a gun, so you can put those homeless out of their misery quicker without having to be nice, and more importantly, honest, with your fellow man?

Yeah, you'll buy the gun, even encourage folks like me to buy one, but you wont admit, your a jew lover?

Well, you started off like you were talking sense.

I don't "ignore damn fine questions relating to" my "diety of choice." My questions are the things that have brought many of the answers that I have found to light.

Get all the masons in the world together, to write a copy of everything written, so that you can call it all masonic writings.

First you ask for controversy by writing things that you know other people won't accept, then you say that I am insulting you for responding that I don't accept your beliefs as my own, and explain my beliefs somewhat that are opposed to yours? Do you always fish for insults like that? Or have you been drinking again?

From about this point in your post above^^, you aren't making any sense. I'm not trying to insult you, but for this little child to understand the point(s) you are making, you will need to write it differently.

Smiley

Once you obligate yourself to freemasonry, you are obligated to them. All the work you do is their's. Everything you speak you do as their representative. I do not know if you are a mason, but as a christian, you are guilty of encouraging attacks on the homeless, more importantly, those too old to defend themselves, And by denying Ja-BAAL-ON, you deny YAHWEH, FACT.
767  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:33:49 PM
It all makes perfect sense:

The church fools people into giving them all their wealth, fuck me, even the whitehouse is owned by the church, and YOUR gov pays rent to the vatican. Meanwhile, it's representatives shoot unarmed homeless old people, due to being more merciful and getting it over with quicker than members of the church, (like BADecker) who would rather starve them to death slowly, a slow agonising death..

The rest of the readers know who has provided the most CONCRETE evidence of other 'entities' that surely have a governing body, but that body is not YAHWEH, it is JA-BAAL-ON.
768  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:26:08 PM
Where's your Proof GODammit?

Allow me:

In Exodus, thanks to Rameses threat to the children, god takes the breath from x amount of the children of egypt.. yeah, you love your god doncha?

Reeks of BAAL, who requires child sacrifice..

It is beginning to appear that you wouldn't be able to recognize proof if it jumped right out and bit you in the forehead.

Actually, such a thing isn't so amazing. In fact, it is very common among people. That's why God says that you have to take Him on faith, at least in part. You don't recognize much of evidence or proof.

Smiley

You are really loosing the plot.. I guess the realisation, that everything you have typed re: the bible, took place in the promised land, or surrounding districts. Yahweh was created so long before ANY biblical account, as is PROVEN by freemasonry holding rituals in the pyramids, unless you know of any other diety's name they may have used at the time? Are you claiming freemasonry is lying about their diety's name?
769  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:20:39 PM
BADecker.. why do you always ignore damn fine questions relating to your diety of choice? You'll quite happily post links to plenty masonic writing's, but not admit anything I have proven to you, despite it being, believe it or not, in your favour? Yet you think you can insult me?

Assume for one second I am god's newest messenger.. the old gods are dead. Your country has less than 1000 days left.. Thank you for the power I needed to make this a fact.. you sit insulting god's messenger'(s) with your out of date, and now clearly proven to be jewish, masonic, I'll say cabalistic, book. YAHWEH IS BAAL IS ON. the THREE mighty messengers..

Wanna buy a gun, so you can put those homeless out of their misery quicker without having to be nice, and more importantly, honest, with your fellow man?

Yeah, you'll buy the gun, even encourage folks like me to buy one, but you wont admit, your a jew lover?
770  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:09:22 PM
Where's your Proof GODammit?

Allow me:

In Exodus, thanks to Rameses threat to the children, god takes the breath from x amount of the children of egypt.. yeah, you love your god doncha?

Reeks of BAAL, who requires child sacrifice..

But then, thanks to freemasonry, Yahweh, BAAL, and ON, are not two, but three in the same no?

A jewish creation designed to prevent YOU reaching the salvation you seek. You'll deny BAAL, but not YAHWEH?
771  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 05:05:10 PM
He's away checking his god's date of birth, he said he'd be back, logically...
772  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:58:15 PM

I'm not fuckin intersted in your empirical bullshit, and dont care for it, due to it being the most useless waste of internet you have ever concieved, go produce something from it, (what you cant?) and stop FORCING it on those who have already said are NOT INTERESTED.

Now, now, relax... before you bust a blood vessel.

I understand how difficult it is to accept logic that cuts the very base out from under your thinking.

But why not rather embrace the truth and be saved, rather than trying to find some way to logically remove the truth from existence. You can't do that. It simply can't be done. You will only wind up harming yourself.

Smiley

I have posted the truth your diety is yod hay vau hay, I have proven using the INRI formula that Yahweh, YOUR diety, is MASONIC, created by the JEWS, and not only that, but there are more than one god, so please, prove Yahweh created logic.

Clamped again.
773  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
For me, as long as the evidence for God is identical to the evidence for unicorns, mermaids, and leprechauns I see no reason to believe it. It may just be a difference in how we view the world. I don't believe in things on faith. It takes evidence to convince me. I also don't start with an assumption that must be true no matter what the facts say. An assumption like "My God simply has to exist".

This sort of thinking is called superstition. Facts challenge superstitions and force a decision. One can examine the facts and follow them to the truth, even if you don't like it. Or you can double down and ignore facts. Typically a threatened person will first attack the facts. When that becomes impossible the attacks switch to science itself. Weird considering we use science to solve almost all our problems today. No other philosophy has yielded so much fruit or changed the world more, yet for many recognizing Gods absence in the workings of the universe means considering that their entire concept of reality could be false.  Not everyone can be that honest with themselves.

The word "evidence" comes from its base "evident."

If a proponent of one thought has one piece of evidence, and the proponent of the opposite thought has a thousand pieces of evidence, which one would seem to be the more correct thought?

Intentionally ignoring evidence isn't the same thing as there being no evidence.

The extreme numbers of evidences for God are found in nature all around us. They are found in the evidence that nature is a machine, that machines have makers, and that the machines of nature are way beyond us. These things show that God exists.

There are more ways to make the evidences more evident, but these are the only ones that are really needed. The only other possibility regarding scientific proof for God is ignorance. That's it. It is self-evident.

Smiley

Kindly produce 1 peice of evidence you have personally found in nature that PROVES god exists then?
774  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:42:27 PM

Then kindly remove yourself to the respective thread dealing with your empirical assumptions (bullshit), since this thread is clearly not for you or your questions, sorry..

That's exactly the kind of thing I would have said to you if I weren't hoping for your salvation. It's amazing how you dabble in non-science and then call it science.

Smiley

You are a christian worshipping a jewish diety, have a nice day.. and watch your country crumble because of this FACT. You cannot be saved, because you are not of the chosen people of your book. You are NOT a jew.

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775  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:39:58 PM
Hmm.. What to say next?

I bought a present for my then 10 year old daughter, a crystal ball. She said, what's this for daddy? I said, "It is nothing more than a point of focus for that which you already know, but without it, you will never see as clear as you will if you learn to use it"

The next year, I bought her a pack of Tarot card's.. again she ask's, why these dad? I said, "Well, now that you know what the crystal ball is for, you should be able to see the same thing in the card's, but the cards can help focus more than the crystal ball" - "how's that dad?" - "The card's have intentional combinations of colour and curves designed to evoke your subconciousnous, allowing you to enter Samadhi, which is the actual purpose of freemasonry. Freemason's practice this all their life, attempting to create that which is nothing more than a state of trance. This state of trance is required in order to "move to the goal" - read the origional emerald tablet's, for this goal.. This is why it is a requirement of many secret societies, that the aspiring member must learn the emerald tablet of by heart, note, I say tablet, not tablet's.. do not be confused. There are however people born with the ability to instantly induce this state of mind, and this is, if anything, that which they wish to keep from the world. I can only leave it to you to realise why. Maybe your ball or cards will help, but I doubt it, you either can or cant do it, but in time, you will.."

So we're looking for Scientific proof of god are we? Let's attempt to cut to the chase, and assume that there is indeed two other worlds, excluding the one we stand on. We live in this one, would you call this fact? Do you have scientific proof that you have dreamt at ANY time in your life? NO.

Do you have any proof that there are remnant's of your what you'd call 'soul' after death? NO. You cant prove you have one while your alive. Can you prove that the soul is the spirit? NO. And herein is a key.

They say god is everything, he is our light, our life, and when he withdraws his breath from your body, you die. What? You die? By believing this (scientific) fact, you kill any chance you have of being reborn, if this is your desire. Again, herein is a key.

The emerald tablets of Thoth have a most perfect description of an entity that lives in ALL of us, Known as the "dweller" - the all seeing eye. Why do you think this has been used by freemasonry for over 64.000 years? Notice when I ask a question, no-one answer's, unless they are capable of doing so? They cant, or WONT, not because they are correct or incorrect, they WONT, because they know not to. What I mean by this, is this:

I found a pool of water that, when drank, gives you eternal life. But there is only so much of this gold, so to whom should I share my new found wealth with?

If we all knew we could CHOOSE to be reborn, or move on to higher forms of existance by shedding the body as a snake shed's it's skin.. would you? EVERYONE would.

So let's start at the beginning.. The oldest manuscript on earth is the emerald tablet's, not THE emerald tablet, which simply teaches micro/macrocosmus man. In earlier post's I mentioned that in earlier days of my life, i had dreams.. no, visions, of being inside a larger living entity, and most folks probably laughed. Try lookin up, and make me believe you are outside this universe? You cant, for I am right. Yet I was describing a vision of this micro/macrocosmus image. The emerald Tablets, the bible, both mention spirit.. or spirit's. From the 17th century, there was an explosion of books classed as 'magic' books, be that magic, good or evil, is not the point here, the fact is these books exist, and the potential reader is warned not to take these books lightly, for they do indeed give access to potent FORCES, that MAY be described as spirit's. I need go no further re: spirit's for now, but I will say this: People have been practicing these 'act's' for want of a better word, for at least 64.000 years, some civilisations call these spirit's god's, other's, demon's. But it is true, that they are also governed by higher scource's. They have to follow the laws as we do, only human law, as mentioned in the emerald tablet's, runs counter to those COSMIC laws. Quite simply, for now, it is nothing more than magic, the applicant KNOWS the cause and effect, of drawing a stupid picture, looking into a glass ball, or carrying out (masonic/religious) RITUAL's. Magic cannot be called good OR evil, for it is a coin with two side's, one good, one evil. It is the USER who decide's the cause and effect.
This was portrayed in the matrix, where the frenchman seduced the lass with chocolate, and described what I just did. So it's ok to say I'm wrong, but freemasonry, or the church, whatever church, or religion, is correct?

Again, earlier I mentioned the hands of a clock. The large hand is the Moon. The small hand is the Sun. The second hand, is Mercury. And you think you know time? Try naming these hands with the respective god's of your country. All you know is a scientific measurement created by man that does NOT exist anywhere else in nature. But the Sun, the Moon, and Mercury are the elder brothers, and their orbit's are the 'cycles', as are the repetitive event's of life, like the four seasons. That part I believe in, and can be best described as a loop.

BADecker seems to think moses was created before god. I actually know he blundered here, and accept that, but had to jump on him for being such an idiot as to not know the scource of HIS book. You see, The bible is only just over 2000 years old. The folks that believe in this have been conned. They believe the only start of existance is written in the bible, and even go as far as to say that people used to live for thousands of years.. just to make up for the rest of the missing human history of the planet. But there is a scientific fact which allows me to prove that they are wrong. It has been posted throughout this thread, and not one single person chimed in to say, well, what about this?

The masonic god is known as Ja-Baal-On - how many movies adapt this to zeboulon?

Are you ready?

Yahweh, the christian name of god, existed before christianity. Before Moses. Before Jesus. 62.000 years ago in FACT. Created by (jewish)  freemasonry. Christianity is 2000 years old, not the rest of the planet's history. Ja of Ja-Baal-On is short for Yaweh. or yod hay, vau hay, proving Yaweh is jewish, Baal is cananite, (not jewish) and is viewed in the egyptian papyrus of the weighing of the soul by Anubis, (opener of the way) who weighs the soul while THOTH sit's ontop of the scales. See that half bull/crocodile? This is the devourer of souls, who required child sacrifice. The greeks have an almost identical image of the weighing of the heart. Of course, the names of the depicted character's in the greek version will be the greek gods. The point of 'On' - Osirius, is to remove the O. You now have Sirius. The short map I gave in earlier posts is nothing compared to the truth I know of. I Asked a question last night: Lets pretend for a moment that the sky above reflects that which is below, in this case, show me Earth above, without pointing to the ball you stand on..

A decent scientist may not be able to find proof of a particular thing, so then may ask those who have had similar problems, but overcome them. Those he asked, wrote their evidence in a book, then died before the decent scientist. The decent scientist reference's the deceased's writing's, considering them as proof. Well, for at least since they started 'praying' well before the pyramids were ever designed, they have acted out certain ritual's, with scientifically proven result's. Over and over again. So I say, if you want proof of god, start practising some of these magic 'spell's' for want of a better word, see if you get any results.. I personnaly prefer reading agrippa, due to the books being older than say john dee, but would never dream of practising - the art of magic.

Of couse God exists, only keep in mind, Jaweh is only ONE god, There are other's, like BAAL, the real question is, is who is subordinate to who?

They are ALL subordinate to the one no-one has or can ever name, for, as previously mentioned, THEN he has a life span. And hence can die.




Basically the only relevant consideration I have to offer after reading all of this is a follow-up to the beginning of this statement that you make:

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So we're looking for Scientific proof of god are we? Let's attempt to cut to the chase...

Yes, let's cut to the chase.  I am *not* looking for scientific proof of god because it is *logically impossible* for there to be any based upon the incontrovertible statements I made in my previous post.

Beyond that, I have no words.  Sorry.

Then kindly remove yourself to the respective thread dealing with your empirical assumptions (bullshit), since this thread is clearly not for you or your questions, sorry..

Who are you responding to?  Me?  Lol you have no idea what I'm saying, do you?

Let me ask you this:  What do you think I'm saying?  Please summarize what it is you think I am saying.  This should be an easy task for you since you are saying that it's "bullshit."

My guess is that you have no idea what point it is I'm trying to make.  Please prove me wrong.

I'm not fuckin intersted in your empirical bullshit, and dont care for it, due to it being the most useless waste of internet you have ever concieved, go produce something from it, (what you cant?) and stop FORCING it on those who have already said are NOT INTERESTED.
776  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:34:20 PM
The proof of god is the all seeing eye, now go get scientific proof of this all seeing diety..

Edit: Allow me, pmsl:

18th degree freemasonry, or Rosicrucian to be precise.

Cabalistically, 37 is equal to ESOTERIC wisdom, ie, that which we KNOW but CANNOT prove.

as 27 is equal to TRUTH REVEALED, being that which we can (scientifically) prove.

I rest my case.
777  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:31:18 PM
Hmm.. What to say next?

I bought a present for my then 10 year old daughter, a crystal ball. She said, what's this for daddy? I said, "It is nothing more than a point of focus for that which you already know, but without it, you will never see as clear as you will if you learn to use it"

The next year, I bought her a pack of Tarot card's.. again she ask's, why these dad? I said, "Well, now that you know what the crystal ball is for, you should be able to see the same thing in the card's, but the cards can help focus more than the crystal ball" - "how's that dad?" - "The card's have intentional combinations of colour and curves designed to evoke your subconciousnous, allowing you to enter Samadhi, which is the actual purpose of freemasonry. Freemason's practice this all their life, attempting to create that which is nothing more than a state of trance. This state of trance is required in order to "move to the goal" - read the origional emerald tablet's, for this goal.. This is why it is a requirement of many secret societies, that the aspiring member must learn the emerald tablet of by heart, note, I say tablet, not tablet's.. do not be confused. There are however people born with the ability to instantly induce this state of mind, and this is, if anything, that which they wish to keep from the world. I can only leave it to you to realise why. Maybe your ball or cards will help, but I doubt it, you either can or cant do it, but in time, you will.."

So we're looking for Scientific proof of god are we? Let's attempt to cut to the chase, and assume that there is indeed two other worlds, excluding the one we stand on. We live in this one, would you call this fact? Do you have scientific proof that you have dreamt at ANY time in your life? NO.

Do you have any proof that there are remnant's of your what you'd call 'soul' after death? NO. You cant prove you have one while your alive. Can you prove that the soul is the spirit? NO. And herein is a key.

They say god is everything, he is our light, our life, and when he withdraws his breath from your body, you die. What? You die? By believing this (scientific) fact, you kill any chance you have of being reborn, if this is your desire. Again, herein is a key.

The emerald tablets of Thoth have a most perfect description of an entity that lives in ALL of us, Known as the "dweller" - the all seeing eye. Why do you think this has been used by freemasonry for over 64.000 years? Notice when I ask a question, no-one answer's, unless they are capable of doing so? They cant, or WONT, not because they are correct or incorrect, they WONT, because they know not to. What I mean by this, is this:

I found a pool of water that, when drank, gives you eternal life. But there is only so much of this gold, so to whom should I share my new found wealth with?

If we all knew we could CHOOSE to be reborn, or move on to higher forms of existance by shedding the body as a snake shed's it's skin.. would you? EVERYONE would.

So let's start at the beginning.. The oldest manuscript on earth is the emerald tablet's, not THE emerald tablet, which simply teaches micro/macrocosmus man. In earlier post's I mentioned that in earlier days of my life, i had dreams.. no, visions, of being inside a larger living entity, and most folks probably laughed. Try lookin up, and make me believe you are outside this universe? You cant, for I am right. Yet I was describing a vision of this micro/macrocosmus image. The emerald Tablets, the bible, both mention spirit.. or spirit's. From the 17th century, there was an explosion of books classed as 'magic' books, be that magic, good or evil, is not the point here, the fact is these books exist, and the potential reader is warned not to take these books lightly, for they do indeed give access to potent FORCES, that MAY be described as spirit's. I need go no further re: spirit's for now, but I will say this: People have been practicing these 'act's' for want of a better word, for at least 64.000 years, some civilisations call these spirit's god's, other's, demon's. But it is true, that they are also governed by higher scource's. They have to follow the laws as we do, only human law, as mentioned in the emerald tablet's, runs counter to those COSMIC laws. Quite simply, for now, it is nothing more than magic, the applicant KNOWS the cause and effect, of drawing a stupid picture, looking into a glass ball, or carrying out (masonic/religious) RITUAL's. Magic cannot be called good OR evil, for it is a coin with two side's, one good, one evil. It is the USER who decide's the cause and effect.
This was portrayed in the matrix, where the frenchman seduced the lass with chocolate, and described what I just did. So it's ok to say I'm wrong, but freemasonry, or the church, whatever church, or religion, is correct?

Again, earlier I mentioned the hands of a clock. The large hand is the Moon. The small hand is the Sun. The second hand, is Mercury. And you think you know time? Try naming these hands with the respective god's of your country. All you know is a scientific measurement created by man that does NOT exist anywhere else in nature. But the Sun, the Moon, and Mercury are the elder brothers, and their orbit's are the 'cycles', as are the repetitive event's of life, like the four seasons. That part I believe in, and can be best described as a loop.

BADecker seems to think moses was created before god. I actually know he blundered here, and accept that, but had to jump on him for being such an idiot as to not know the scource of HIS book. You see, The bible is only just over 2000 years old. The folks that believe in this have been conned. They believe the only start of existance is written in the bible, and even go as far as to say that people used to live for thousands of years.. just to make up for the rest of the missing human history of the planet. But there is a scientific fact which allows me to prove that they are wrong. It has been posted throughout this thread, and not one single person chimed in to say, well, what about this?

The masonic god is known as Ja-Baal-On - how many movies adapt this to zeboulon?

Are you ready?

Yahweh, the christian name of god, existed before christianity. Before Moses. Before Jesus. 62.000 years ago in FACT. Created by (jewish)  freemasonry. Christianity is 2000 years old, not the rest of the planet's history. Ja of Ja-Baal-On is short for Yaweh. or yod hay, vau hay, proving Yaweh is jewish, Baal is cananite, (not jewish) and is viewed in the egyptian papyrus of the weighing of the soul by Anubis, (opener of the way) who weighs the soul while THOTH sit's ontop of the scales. See that half bull/crocodile? This is the devourer of souls, who required child sacrifice. The greeks have an almost identical image of the weighing of the heart. Of course, the names of the depicted character's in the greek version will be the greek gods. The point of 'On' - Osirius, is to remove the O. You now have Sirius. The short map I gave in earlier posts is nothing compared to the truth I know of. I Asked a question last night: Lets pretend for a moment that the sky above reflects that which is below, in this case, show me Earth above, without pointing to the ball you stand on..

A decent scientist may not be able to find proof of a particular thing, so then may ask those who have had similar problems, but overcome them. Those he asked, wrote their evidence in a book, then died before the decent scientist. The decent scientist reference's the deceased's writing's, considering them as proof. Well, for at least since they started 'praying' well before the pyramids were ever designed, they have acted out certain ritual's, with scientifically proven result's. Over and over again. So I say, if you want proof of god, start practising some of these magic 'spell's' for want of a better word, see if you get any results.. I personnaly prefer reading agrippa, due to the books being older than say john dee, but would never dream of practising - the art of magic.

Of couse God exists, only keep in mind, Jaweh is only ONE god, There are other's, like BAAL, the real question is, is who is subordinate to who?

They are ALL subordinate to the one no-one has or can ever name, for, as previously mentioned, THEN he has a life span. And hence can die.




Basically the only relevant consideration I have to offer after reading all of this is a follow-up to the beginning of this statement that you make:

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So we're looking for Scientific proof of god are we? Let's attempt to cut to the chase...

Yes, let's cut to the chase.  I am *not* looking for scientific proof of god because it is *logically impossible* for there to be any based upon the incontrovertible statements I made in my previous post.

Beyond that, I have no words.  Sorry.

Then kindly remove yourself to the respective thread dealing with your empirical assumptions (bullshit), since this thread is clearly not for you or your questions, sorry..
778  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 04:08:57 PM
Hmm.. What to say next?

I bought a present for my then 10 year old daughter, a crystal ball. She said, what's this for daddy? I said, "It is nothing more than a point of focus for that which you already know, but without it, you will never see as clear as you will if you learn to use it"

The next year, I bought her a pack of Tarot card's.. again she ask's, why these dad? I said, "Well, now that you know what the crystal ball is for, you should be able to see the same thing in the card's, but the cards can help focus more than the crystal ball" - "how's that dad?" - "The card's have intentional combinations of colour and curves designed to evoke your subconciousnous, allowing you to enter Samadhi, which is the actual purpose of freemasonry. Freemason's practice this all their life, attempting to create that which is nothing more than a state of trance. This state of trance is required in order to "move to the goal" - read the origional emerald tablet's, for this goal.. This is why it is a requirement of many secret societies, that the aspiring member must learn the emerald tablet of by heart, note, I say tablet, not tablet's.. do not be confused. There are however people born with the ability to instantly induce this state of mind, and this is, if anything, that which they wish to keep from the world. I can only leave it to you to realise why. Maybe your ball or cards will help, but I doubt it, you either can or cant do it, but in time, you will.."

So we're looking for Scientific proof of god are we? Let's attempt to cut to the chase, and assume that there is indeed two other worlds, excluding the one we stand on. We live in this one, would you call this fact? Do you have scientific proof that you have dreamt at ANY time in your life? NO.

Do you have any proof that there are remnant's of your what you'd call 'soul' after death? NO. You cant prove you have one while your alive. Can you prove that the soul is the spirit? NO. And herein is a key.

They say god is everything, he is our light, our life, and when he withdraws his breath from your body, you die. What? You die? By believing this (scientific) fact, you kill any chance you have of being reborn, if this is your desire. Again, herein is a key.

The emerald tablets of Thoth have a most perfect description of an entity that lives in ALL of us, Known as the "dweller" - the all seeing eye. Why do you think this has been used by freemasonry for over 64.000 years? Notice when I ask a question, no-one answer's, unless they are capable of doing so? They cant, or WONT, not because they are correct or incorrect, they WONT, because they know not to. What I mean by this, is this:

I found a pool of water that, when drank, gives you eternal life. But there is only so much of this gold, so to whom should I share my new found wealth with?

If we all knew we could CHOOSE to be reborn, or move on to higher forms of existance by shedding the body as a snake shed's it's skin.. would you? EVERYONE would.

So let's start at the beginning.. The oldest manuscript on earth is the emerald tablet's, not THE emerald tablet, which simply teaches micro/macrocosmus man. In earlier post's I mentioned that in earlier days of my life, i had dreams.. no, visions, of being inside a larger living entity, and most folks probably laughed. Try lookin up, and make me believe you are outside this universe? You cant, for I am right. Yet I was describing a vision of this micro/macrocosmus image. The emerald Tablets, the bible, both mention spirit.. or spirit's. From the 17th century, there was an explosion of books classed as 'magic' books, be that magic, good or evil, is not the point here, the fact is these books exist, and the potential reader is warned not to take these books lightly, for they do indeed give access to potent FORCES, that MAY be described as spirit's. I need go no further re: spirit's for now, but I will say this: People have been practicing these 'act's' for want of a better word, for at least 64.000 years, some civilisations call these spirit's god's, other's, demon's. But it is true, that they are also governed by higher scource's. They have to follow the laws as we do, only human law, as mentioned in the emerald tablet's, runs counter to those COSMIC laws. Quite simply, for now, it is nothing more than magic, the applicant KNOWS the cause and effect, of drawing a stupid picture, looking into a glass ball, or carrying out (masonic/religious) RITUAL's. Magic cannot be called good OR evil, for it is a coin with two side's, one good, one evil. It is the USER who decide's the cause and effect.
This was portrayed in the matrix, where the frenchman seduced the lass with chocolate, and described what I just did. So it's ok to say I'm wrong, but freemasonry, or the church, whatever church, or religion, is correct?

Again, earlier I mentioned the hands of a clock. The large hand is the Moon. The small hand is the Sun. The second hand, is Mercury. And you think you know time? Try naming these hands with the respective god's of your country. All you know is a scientific measurement created by man that does NOT exist anywhere else in nature. But the Sun, the Moon, and Mercury are the elder brothers, and their orbit's are the 'cycles', as are the repetitive event's of life, like the four seasons. That part I believe in, and can be best described as a loop.

BADecker seems to think moses was created before god. I actually know he blundered here, and accept that, but had to jump on him for being such an idiot as to not know the scource of HIS book. You see, The bible is only just over 2000 years old. The folks that believe in this have been conned. They believe the only start of existance is written in the bible, and even go as far as to say that people used to live for thousands of years.. just to make up for the rest of the missing human history of the planet. But there is a scientific fact which allows me to prove that they are wrong. It has been posted throughout this thread, and not one single person chimed in to say, well, what about this?

The masonic god is known as Ja-Baal-On - how many movies adapt this to zeboulon?

Are you ready?

Yahweh, the christian name of god, existed before christianity. Before Moses. Before Jesus. 62.000 years ago in FACT. Created by (jewish)  freemasonry. Christianity is 2000 years old, not the rest of the planet's history. Ja of Ja-Baal-On is short for Yaweh. or yod hay, vau hay, proving Yaweh is jewish, Baal is cananite, (not jewish) and is viewed in the egyptian papyrus of the weighing of the soul by Anubis, (opener of the way) who weighs the soul while THOTH sit's ontop of the scales. See that half bull/crocodile? This is the devourer of souls, who required child sacrifice. The greeks have an almost identical image of the weighing of the heart. Of course, the names of the depicted character's in the greek version will be the greek gods. The point of 'On' - Osirius, is to remove the O. You now have Sirius. The short map I gave in earlier posts is nothing compared to the truth I know of. I Asked a question last night: Lets pretend for a moment that the sky above reflects that which is below, in this case, show me Earth above, without pointing to the ball you stand on..

A decent scientist may not be able to find proof of a particular thing, so then may ask those who have had similar problems, but overcome them. Those he asked, wrote their evidence in a book, then died before the decent scientist. The decent scientist reference's the deceased's writing's, considering them as proof. Well, for at least since they started 'praying' well before the pyramids were ever designed, they have acted out certain ritual's, with scientifically proven result's. Over and over again. So I say, if you want proof of god, start practising some of these magic 'spell's' for want of a better word, see if you get any results.. I personnaly prefer reading agrippa, due to the books being older than say john dee, but would never dream of practising - the art of magic.

Of couse God exists, only keep in mind, Jaweh is only ONE god, There are other's, like BAAL, the real question is, is who is subordinate to who?

They are ALL subordinate to the one no-one has or can ever name, for, as previously mentioned, THEN he has a life span. And hence can die.


779  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 04, 2015, 10:59:47 AM
Shame we're clearly not dealing with the scientific proof of god, which according to your question may suggest that WE are the creator, as guided by the ALL-SOUL - (GOD) shown in my remix of the emerald tablets, that part where it state's "Formless was He within his Temple (galaxy/universe?), yet was He formed in the image of men." <-note the last wod is not MAN

edit: is it possible that the temple is the head?

You now know the fact..

Stop with "scientific proof of God" garbage.  It is simply a logical impossibility for there to be any.  Empirical methods of exploration like the Scientific Method have a scope of exploration which is simply insufficient to comment about the matter whatsoever.  Period.  The end.

Anybody who concludes one way or another about God's existence based upon empirical evidence (or a lack thereof) is wasting air, and has no idea what he is talking about.

Wowsers.. you are the only one here wasting air with your irelevant nonsensical crap that means nothing to anyone else, I have been posting evidence taken from a plethora of books, (instead of one) including the oldest manuscript on earth.. why try to answer if you know you cant? Take it up with the OP who asked for Scientific proof that God exists. Since the oldest manuscript on earth deals with not only scientific proof, but shows the way to discovering so called masonic secret's, which in turn show not only proof of, but where to find it, I would ask you again, take it up with the OP. When he closes this thread, then that'll be that, but some people want the evidence I have posted, since no-one else is capable due to having masonic brethren as family. Or believe in that christian nonsense that sends you to THEIR house.
780  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: March 03, 2015, 11:13:42 PM
Shame we're clearly not dealing with the scientific proof of god, which according to your question may suggest that WE are the creator, as guided by the ALL-SOUL - (GOD) shown in my remix of the emerald tablets, that part where it state's "Formless was He within his Temple (galaxy/universe?), yet was He formed in the image of men." <-note the last wod is not MAN

edit: is it possible that the temple is the head?

You now know the fact..
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