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781  Local / Annunci / Re: Raiblocks - Moneta che punta sulla scalabilità - Conferme istantanee - No fee on: August 27, 2017, 01:11:50 AM
Presente anche gruppo italiano su facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/raiblocksitalia (italiano)
782  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 26, 2017, 07:47:30 PM
You can now try https://www.yours.org Smiley
(beta release)
783  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: BTC vs BCH HashRate on: August 26, 2017, 07:20:39 PM
Articolo a riguardo

https://medium.com/@Mengerian/bringing-stability-to-bitcoin-cash-difficulty-adjustments-eae8def0efa4
784  Local / Annunci / Re: Raiblocks - Moneta che punta sulla scalabilità - Conferme istantanee - No fee on: August 26, 2017, 06:34:50 PM
Nuova release Smiley

https://github.com/clemahieu/raiblocks/releases/tag/V8.0
785  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin forks from altcoins on: August 26, 2017, 08:24:27 AM
Another idea that someone gave me:

The ICO will distribute a sub-token, that can be send/received, so it can be sold/bought.
Death UTXO will then be redistributed on the percentage of those tokens owned, and maybe it can never ends.
786  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Bitcoin forks from altcoins on: August 26, 2017, 07:25:00 AM
Bitcoin forks from altcoins
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The basic idea is making forks of Bitcoin with technologies and benefits of other altcoins, or maybe launching completely new one.

So let's imagine that you will launch a "fork" of an altcoin X, but with "Bitcoin balances"! Seems great Smiley

The problem of developing coins as everything else it is that it needs time and money.

Who is the developer(s) that he is going to do it? I know that there are talented selfless developers, but they are rare and they can change idea at any time.

So, maybe it can be another ICO, but how it is possible to make an ICO from the history (blockchain) of an already mined coin as Bitcoin? (so no pre-mining)

There is a way, even though I know that it can be controversial: taking coins from the death/lost utxo!


Example 1:
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There can be an ICO, and investors will buy a percentage of the death/lost utxo.
So someone will have 10% (A), someone 30% (B), 20% (C), 15% (D), 15% (E) and 10% (F) again. (6 investors, again, it is just an example)
What will happen then?
The new coin will be launched, ad after a certain "grace" period, death utxo/coin (from the Bitcoin history) will be blocked, and generated again (the same amount), block by block.
Only death utxo will part of this new assignment and only if they don't get moved on the next blocks.
So imagine that the Bitcoin blockchain is formed by 1000 blocks at the time of the new coin created.
Again, this is just an example, so numbers doesn't reflect how Bitcoin really works.
The grace period (maybe 6 months) will end at the block 1050 (so 50 blocks are like 6 months in this example)
"Satoshi" (and all the other early adopters of the first blocks) will have then 6 months to move his coins to not find them blocked and redistributed.
If he didn't, then at the block 1051, his first generated block with 50 tokens (the  block 1) will be not spendable, and the new generated block (1051) will have: the prize, plus the fees for the included tx, AND plus 50 new token distributed to the 6 investors (on their % of investment)
So at the block 1051, A will get 5 tokens, B 15 tokens, C 10 tokens, D and E 7.5 tokens and F 5 tokens. (and miners/stakeholders will get prize+fee)
What will happen at the next block? (1052)
Again, the same. If there are utxo that aren't moving from the block 2, then all of them will be distributed again to all the investors of the ICO.
But, what will happen if instead at the block 1052, someone did get a confirmed tx that has moved coins from an utxo on hold from the block 3?
At the block 1053 those coins will NOT be blocked and redistributed.

On this way all the holders can just move their coins to not lose them.
And if the new coin has blocks that are still generated avery 10 minutes as Bitcoin, and a holder has made an utxo on the last blocks before the fork, he will then have like 8 years of time to move them!

The redistribution function will end after the same amount of blocks after the first block after the fork, so when the new coin will reach the block 2050, the investors will stop receiving coins from death utxo.

How many coins are lost/death? It is unknown, but the Satoshi stake is probably 1M or more, and I think that lost coins are much more.
Investors will speculate on this Wink


Example 2:
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Maybe one dev want to launch his coin, but he doesn't like to try find investors and/or going in the chaos of ICO and he is bad on promoting himself and/or he just like to code.
So there is another way to make the same things (redistribution of death utxo) but with some little differences.
A percentage of redistributed tokens (maybe 10%?) will go to a address set by the dev.
So at the block 1051, 10% of the 50 coins generated on the block 1 by Satoshi will go to the dev.
Both this percentage (10% in this example) and the address set by the dev will be possible to be changed with a larger majority (maybe 85?) of votes by the miners/stakeholders (or any other consensus method on the new coin).
On this way, if the dev will die or will stop doing a good work, miners will be able to change the address and donate those money to other competitor devs/teams.
It needs the larger majority of the votes of the miners to avoid that the can just give those tokens to themselves Smiley


I hope that this can help to get inspiration even for better ideas! Grin


https://pastebin.com/RchGxD8d
787  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: fee BTC sfonda il tetto di 3 euro on: August 25, 2017, 08:41:23 AM
Fra i vari dev e fan di Core/Blockstream, c'è chi diceva che una commissione deve essere giusto più alta del costo di questo dispositivo opendime.com
C'è chi diceva che 20$ è buono.
Chi dice che 100$ potrebbe essere normale.

Quindi, stupitevi poco di dove si sta andando.
788  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Usare il wallet Coinomi per importare le chiavi private e avere Bitcoin Cash on: August 25, 2017, 07:44:50 AM
Puoi provare a scaricare questo https://github.com/pointbiz/bitaddress.org
Ed eseguirlo sul tuo computer.
Aprire lo spazio wallet, inserire la tua chiave privata, e dovrebbe mostrarti altri formati.
Provare quindi con gli altri formati su Coinomi.
789  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitcoin Cash - Fork di Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Commissioni più basse on: August 25, 2017, 04:01:10 AM
Sta regalando un dollaro di Bitcoin Cash Smiley

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6vule1/bitalien_bitcoin_cash_giveaway_receive_1_of/
790  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 25, 2017, 03:46:12 AM
I've added some websites with stats about fee on both Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin networks in the OP.


and 1$ free of Bitcoin Cash Smiley

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6vule1/bitalien_bitcoin_cash_giveaway_receive_1_of/
791  Local / Italiano (Italian) / [LISTA] Vari siti che indicato le commissioni medie su Bitcoin on: August 25, 2017, 03:11:50 AM
Se le vostre transazioni non vengono confermate, è perché non state pagando abbastanza per entrare nei blocchi.

https://bitcoinfees.21.co
https://bitcoinfees.github.io
https://estimatefee.com
https://bitcoinfees.info
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-median_transaction_fee.html
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/bitcoin-transactionfees.html
https://statocashi.info/dashboard/db/transactions?orgId=1
https://www.smartbit.com.au/charts/transaction-fees-per-transaction
https://anduck.net/bitcoin/fees/144_blocks.php
https://btc.com/stats/unconfirmed-tx

Se ne conoscete altri, segnalate pure Smiley
792  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 25, 2017, 02:47:45 AM
I've added other services on the OP Smiley
793  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: SegWit approvata on: August 25, 2017, 12:16:16 AM
No.
I blocchi rimangono da 1MB.
Ci sono dei dati che finiscono fuori dai blocchi (che non sono ancora indicati nelle statistiche di alcuni siti), solo le tx segwit finiscono in parte in questo spazio esterno.
794  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 24, 2017, 10:32:53 PM
I'm adding services on the OP.
If you have some services that are using Bitcoin Cash, I can add them.
They must give at least the impression that there is some kind of work behind them. I will not add every random frontpage website created in few hours.
795  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitcoin Cash - Fork di Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Commissioni più basse on: August 24, 2017, 11:43:55 AM
Aggiornato il primo messaggio con vari link
796  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Bitcoin Cash - Fork di Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Commissioni più basse on: August 22, 2017, 08:03:48 PM
Nuovo mobile wallet Smiley

https://blog.btc.com/bitcoin-cash-wallet-for-mobile-grab-it-now-f017957d956e


Blockchain.info supporterà Bitcoin Cash

https://blog.blockchain.com/2017/08/22/bitcoin-cash-update/
797  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 22, 2017, 08:01:08 PM
New mobile wallets Smiley

https://blog.btc.com/bitcoin-cash-wallet-for-mobile-grab-it-now-f017957d956e


Blockchain.info will support Bitcoin Cash

https://blog.blockchain.com/2017/08/22/bitcoin-cash-update/
798  Economy / Exchanges / Re: List of bitcoin debit cards on: August 22, 2017, 06:14:22 PM
Is there a card that is accepting Bitcoin Cash?
799  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 22, 2017, 02:36:47 AM
Even F2Pool has mined a block Smiley
800  Local / Italiano (Italian) / Re: Gruppo Facebook on: August 21, 2017, 05:37:08 PM
Il gruppo ha raggiungo oggi 10000 utenti Smiley
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