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821  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between Bitcoin and real money? on: November 02, 2017, 11:12:26 AM
The first difference in bitcoin and real money is of physical existence,  bitcoin is virtually concept while real money has  existence.  Bitcoins is continously growing up and it's price are skyrocketting but real money is only a mode of currency,  although bitcoin in itself become a investment as it's prices keep on increasing. Bitcoin is trending,  everyone wants to buy bitcoin.  Bitcoins has been tax free and easy transaction method but cash leads to transaction fees,  taxes by the government.
we can't produce more bitcoin as it's fixed at 21,000,000 only where real money could be produced up to unlimited amount. that's make a clear difference that the price of bitcoin can only changed by each of bitcoin holder decision. and i personally always feel so amazed with satoshi nakamoto who design this great thing ever created on the internet.
822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: November 02, 2017, 11:03:34 AM
The key thing to win a bet is the right decision, i don't know they call this a trick or not but go the opposite bet with the crowd is the smartest choice. Cause the odds was given by the house will lead people to bet on a loss team. So don't do it will help you win the bet .

The key to win a bet is luck and this has nothing to do with making decisions. If you are gambling you need to have luck on your side - make that a shit ton of luck. Anti-public betting may not be always correct and that does not make the opposite true either. It is just a game of luck and there is no guarantee that the bet will be profitable or not. In sports some analysis and research is important but still luck is of utmost importance. There is not trick to getting rich.
tricks just part of the way to make the game much more fun , the reality and mathematically indeed it has nothing to influence the outcome. it would stay uncertain no matter what. people have too much delusional idea on how making their gambling habit become profitable , where the fact it won't happened. you can't get a guarantee wiinning with any trick.
823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you use BTC as a digital currency for paying online ? on: November 01, 2017, 10:49:59 PM
I've never used BTC as a digital currency in any form. I've only bought some in the hopes that some day I will. It is amazing how much Bitcoin's price has increased over time. The fact that it is going up so high may make people weary of spending it. When something raises in value over time, people start developing a hoard mentality. When it starts to level out I expect more people to be active with spending and receiving bitcoin.
yeah people nowadays have no purpose to get involved with the real project of bitcoin as a transformation money. the next generation money that would become popular as time goes by. i won't deny that bitcoin are so promising as a digital asset , you put your money in bitcoin and just hold it as long as possible. but i always prefer to support the vision of satoshi to make bitcoin as a real digital currency.
824  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 01, 2017, 10:25:54 PM
Gambling offers the opportunity to become rich almost without doing anything and those who like easy money will come back again to try again. You need to set a limit for the game in order not to lose everything.
Correct the opportunities we will never get in real life that is what attracts us towards gambling we always need to understand gambling is just a short term solution and sometimes it might even make you good money but to make more money you always need hardwork and dedication

Other people became that addicted of because they taught that full happiness can be achieve if they play and play as expecting lots of chances will come all the way, but they're wrong. That's right gambling was just for short term bets which could possible give you lucky chances of winning, but I don't see it profitable if we make it long term. Better to work for money like bitcoin jobs and other sources of income like physical jobs, due to sustainable amount it may provide to us.

it's really dreamy when people usually imagine how much money they can make through gambling when you stake $100 double it to $200 , $400 , $800 and so on easily within a couple of minutes , the reality always far different from what people want. they didn't think realistically and prefer to follow their gut to become greedy in the end.
This is a usual stuff and a usual aim for most gamblers out there who do play games.It cant really be avoided or to be removed on ones mind on believing that they can able to make good money or profits on gambling easily.Yes, it is actually possible but only if you are just lucky enough.What if doesnt? Then expectations would really be broken for sure.
yeah i'm just talking about how gamble make people addicted based on my personal experience and several people around me. that vouch actually applies to everyone. we are in same purpose to complete an impossible mission to make money in gambling. keep being an addict and you would find you are a broken guy sooner or later. let's move on and looking for something better than gambling , let your gambling habit as your way to get an exclusive entertainment and step by step quit from it.
825  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ranking list of the oldest crypto coins on: November 01, 2017, 10:10:57 PM
there's goldcoin (GLD) it's invented since May 2013 ,  i've been working with the goldcoin as a merchant adoption for a couple months btw. they are one of the oldest crypto , but not much people pay attention on them , you might want to add goldcoin into the list? here is the link for reference https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=317568.0 .
826  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why I suddenly decided to leave gambling alone. on: November 01, 2017, 09:57:21 PM
If you do really value your money then most likely you would really have doubts anytime on spending too much money on gambling which would really make you limit on the funds that you would use which is really a good thing because it would really limit you to be come addicted on gambling. Leaving it would really be hard specially if addiction did hit you already.
That's the thing, you are already addicted and have a habit of gambling then you should know that it wouldn't help you in any case. It would just eat your money and it wouldn't come back unless you have thought about gambling again causing more destruction with your wallet.


Many people should realize that, they wanted to quit gambling but they just couldn't do it because they can't move on, on their loses, which is not a good idea, if I'm the one who is on a situation who lose a big amount of money in gambling, I will definitely going to quit gambling without any hesitation and going to think for another way on how am I going to get all the money that I have lost on it.


quit gambling is indeed not easy, I own until now it's hard to do that. let alone bitcoin gives me the ease in a gamble. I can still feel the victory so I am hard to stop. but maybe one day I will definitely quit. at least until now I am still playing within the confines of reasonable and not to ruin my life.
 
that's better if you think you are not addicted yet , as long as your gambling habit still on the limit lines you are good to go to gamble and quit from it step by step. the urgency to leave gambling are when you have done a lot of stupid things like get a loan to gamble , lost it and you can't pay it back. things would get started worse. no other solution just leave immediately.
As long you are still on the limit line then you are still fine.Going already into those kind of situations where you do already borrow other money just to play then addiction can already be severe for sure and you still keep on doing such thing even you are already losing.If you dont like to end up on having no house and a family then better to quit while its still early.
leave when you think you are gambling like a mad , losing control and causing too much trouble. i do believe those people who always do a self introspection would decide to quit from their gambling habit sooner . they will not wait until the problem getting bigger as they have noticed it early. just be like op , make a heavy decision to leave.
827  Economy / Gambling / Re: JETWIN - BITCOIN CASINO & BITCOIN SPORTSBOOK on: November 01, 2017, 09:28:56 PM
Today, 19:45, Wembley Stadium, London

     Many people expected Tottenham to struggle in this Champions League group, especially after their dire performance at Wembley last season. However, they are in a very good position at the moment, joint top of the group with Real Madrid having beaten Borussia Dortmund and APOEL and taken a point from the Bernabeu.

Tottenham should definitely qualify for the last 16, I think they are way too reliant on Harry Kane though. He’s been missing for 2 games & they’ve lost both.

I don’t know what to expect from the Real game tonight, both teams to score seems a safe option but which Real will turn up?
tottenham aren't struggling , it's real madrid the one who struggle especially in this game , just a live update

80'

Tottenham Hotspur
3 - 0
Real Madrid

10 minutes left and looks like tottenham would take real madrid place at the top of table group H. a high odds to win are closer on real madrid come out as a group runner-up  Grin. however always love to see a lot of betting options offered by jetwin  Wink.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know when to stop? on: November 01, 2017, 09:15:00 PM
If you are addicted to gambling then I am afraid you will not know when to stop you will just keep gambling until you will lose all of your savings.
Well in gambling I set a limit like I will bet 10$ and I will stop once I get 20$ from it and If I lose I will never deposit again 10$ to win that lost amount of money back. You should know that gambling doesn't give you anything instead of loss.

But they eventually stop when they become bankrupt and so it isn't that they don't know when to stop but they just can't stop because they are motivated by flimsy excuses that they are going to turn in profit somehow and this deception gets them into a worse state..

But dude the worst thing is they will not stop if they lose all of there money right? Even if they lose all of there money they will just try to get money from someone else thinking that they will get the lost money back but instead of winning back they lost the loaned amount too. I Really don't like gambling because maybe I have never tasted the pleasure of getting fast and easy profits from gambling.
the biggest problem that almost every gambler faced are to stop at the right time or even just stop, they are mostly can't do that. they feel they have something to be finished , the goal are to keep having profit , so yeah it's not something new and surprising at all to see a lot of people get addicted due want their losses recovered. and suffering bigger lost later on.
829  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚽ Sportsbet.io 💰 Weekly offers! ⚽ on: November 01, 2017, 08:56:40 PM
Another nice promo for the Champions League matches tonight, just placed a bet for this. Hopefully it can be a win bet and anyone who take this promo will get very nice profit. Thanks sportsbet.
I did not notice that the site existed after all the scam accusation against them a long time back,i thought they closed their doors,looks like they are active with their promos and i liked their site but kind of stopped going after all those accusation,will check those offers as there is a big fight coming up in UFC.

They never closed their doors after that time and keep giving great promos every week. That scam accusation is indeed bad for their reputation but as I know they have solved the problem. I myself never got any serious issues in this site and I'm in good profit especially from their great promos since I joined long time ago.
It does not mean that I'm supporting the site, I just wanna share my experiences in this site. For me, it is good site even tough I have ever leaved them for several months because of the scam accusation. But now, I'm trying to be active again here.
the problem are on how they operates the business full of shady . hidden rules , multi interpretation rules they made make people fall in and get loss. i personally feel harmed few months ago caused  by how bad their gaming system and how terrible they are handle customer complaints . just gamble here with that risk , i still put a grudge on them due some reason.
830  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why BTC is rising the price? on: November 01, 2017, 08:37:27 PM
There are a few reasons why BTC price is rising and definitely the CME news play a part. The other significant reason is because of the upcoming fork.

We have seen two forks in the previous days. 1 august fork made a huge increase in bitcoin and also BTG made a huge increase in bitcoin as well. This is showing that upcoming fork will make the price even higher possibly.
there a lot of factor actually include the fork , some massive adoption that all of them leading to a big demand on bitcoin where nowadays to earn bitcoin itself are so hard. a lot of people also getting more curious to know more about bitcoin and decide to buy bitcoin for the sake of to give a shot. pretty clear enough isn't it?
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What do you feel when win in gambling? on: November 01, 2017, 08:24:13 PM
when you win in gambling you feel excited and on top of the world. alot of thing on how and what to spend on your winning will start disturbing your head. you feel you have achieve something great and you will think you can win more then you start to play again. if you are lucky you will still win and if you are unlucky you will lose all the money you have one. My friend ones told me there is karma in gambling and that is the reason why you cant keep winning all the time. when you win you win back part of your loss

Sometimes winning back part of what we lose makes us excited already , that is why alot of people keep coming back to win more. They play with much bigger capital and hope to win more. I wont really care if they play for fun but if they keep playing like that , that just means they are wasting their money because we cant win money from gambling
winning would only make you get more hooked to play yeah , to avoid things like that you have to remember that if you continue to gamble you would make everything much more worse than the previous one. stick on it and maybe you can really enjoying the game with that way. without self control , win in gambling are mean nothing.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 31, 2017, 09:28:56 PM
I knew few people whos into gambling addiction,they always says that they have learn from mistakes upon losing and no budget to play,but when they have another amount to in hand.those mistakes will happen again,and again.what ever i adviced then yet nothing happens
Although everyone already know about their mistake that they usually done in gambling, but still they find it hard to over them, because they always try to make more money in short time, but for every time they do not succeeded and they just waste the time. I think we need top lay gambling in such a way that we can over come all our mistakes.
yeah due gambling addiction you would always ignore everything and just follow your guts that actually more to greedy. not surprising at all as gambling full of addictive things , you would always make things that considered as a mistake like chasing your losses , put the money that actually not belong to you etc. that's the fact.

Some people will ignore everything that is important for them but some people will not. I am addicted but Im not really going to abandon everything . Some people might abandon everything but that kind of thing is definitely not for me. I did make the same mistake in the past but Im well over that so I wont repeat the same mistake anymore
so i guess you are in the low or middle level of addiction?  Cheesy , mostly people with gambling addiction always losing control and do everything that they would regret later . i have seen a lot of people with that kind problem , they didn't learn anything even always feel regretful. just playing and lost repeatedly.
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is better? To gamble or to invest? on: October 31, 2017, 08:56:08 PM
both have risks. in gambling if you can't control the emotions, then it's the loss you will get. I think in investment risk can be reduced if you understand what you want to invest
The risk is common in both gamble and investment. we can be reduced our loss in gambling by limiting our capital and in investment, we can't predict when the loss will come.
Risk in investment is not equal to risk with gambling. If you invest in some promising ICO or just buy some promising altcoin at low price than you can easily make good profit by just holding them for few months. However in gambling you can either multiply your bet amount or you will loss all at one single roll if you turn out to be unlucky.

It is risky in both side but with investment we could get money in the long term although it may not be that much. If it is gambling then we could get alot more but remember that gambling is supposed to make us lose. I wouldnt really gamble high amount of money because it is the same as wasting all the money that you could have use as investment
what makes people choose to gamble are when they never be patient to get profit and just straight go to casino for instant money , they thought they would always get that but it's just a dream to having profit everytime you place a bet. investment much more better and secure . you won't feel too much regret , but in gambling it's full of regret believe me.

The idea about those people who has short patience on their profit is they really wanted a fast profit and not on a expectations that on investments there is always a good future. Many situations can prove that not just gambling as an easy money to think of, but you cannot expect that in gambling you can have a better assurance to win lucky profit always, but reality happens and losing from your bets might be a recurring activity. My advice to those who were into trap of this idea about gambling is they better be back on investments and bitcoin is the only way to give them better profit in the future.
gambling are for luck seeker , if you looking for steady profit here then you are in the wrong place , i wouldn't say gambling for entertainment as it won't make you happy whenever you get lost and you did lost most of the times by the way. investment more legit and reliable for sure , you don't have to think twice or consult to an expert.

Gambling is also for fun seeker. Some people like me gamble not to get more money but only to have fun. I do admit that it is my addiction that caused me to keep playing but at the same time , I am really having fun. The choice between to gamble or to invest however will still be to invest because it is the best option to get money
lol there's no difference right? when you looking for luck by gamble you won't care much about money , you would only having fun in the game. i just think when you have got addicted in gambling that's mean you were gambling for money. at least that was what i'm experienced so far. don't be naive , fun doesn't make you addicted in gambling but money yeah it is.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: October 31, 2017, 08:45:22 PM
When we think about investments we imagine investors with big sums of money, so for btc casino it would be 1 or more btc, for instance. However, the minimum amount you can invest is usually 0.01btc which is only 10$. Do you think such investments are profitable but you earn small sums or maybe they don't make sense at all? Can someone explain it to me?

For me small or big investment will always mean money. It depends on what will be your investment, for short or long term and how you handle every problem that might occur. With $10 yeah its too small to start up but it will be the safest bet, but of course you know with that amount you didn't expect a high return. The least you can do now is to learn to play that amount in your hand and let it grow and then you can add some when things turn favorably.

If we're talking about gambling, starting small wouldn't only make sense but it's actually more logical than starting with a big amount. You don't want to have a big disappointment at the very beginning of it right? Takes away the fun off the bat
yeah but we are discussing to invest in bitcoin casinos that offering investment as low as $10 , although nowadays it's not as popular as few months ago. there's a new way to having profit through ICO of bitcoin gambling sites. however always worth to put your a little amount of money as an investment but i don't think $10 are a right decision , it's just like a joke for me. but who knows bitcoin price increased up to 1000 times?
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you use analysis when play gambling? on: October 30, 2017, 02:16:57 AM
I don't prefer doing analysis while gambling. It puts too much stress in what supposed to be a fun game. I prefer using the instinc I have gained from years of playing the game. That's why win or lose, it's just another game...

For people who always follow the latest news about an event, soccer for example, the analysis will run even without the help of the data from other parties. So, doing the analysis is not always faced with complicated data. It can run quickly in our minds because our brains already have enough information to make choices.
That is true. There are so many people who are always on the sport news, knowing every little details there is to know. Some will even tell you outrightly who would win the match from the look of things. It is not the kind of data or charts you will need in trading but with sport analysis, you only need the news and good thinking ability to know what an outcome may end up being.

Analysis is common and can be applied to any betting but unfortunately most of the betting methods are influenced by luck factor and only sports betting may go as per our analysis.
It is a fact that only sports’ betting is a type gambling where you use your analysis and experience in order to win the bet whereas other games like poker, dice roll etc. it is totally useless to analyses the game and get your strategies developed accordingly. I have never gambled but I am thinking about going for sports gambling that too for cricket because I think I should utilize my knowledge for earning money.
don't know what actually they think about certain games would have higher winning percentage when you do analysis before the game started , it's just make you feel safe when look at the data / statistics and analyze it. the actual outcome would always random and luck are the determiner. seriously let's be realistic from now.
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 30, 2017, 02:03:57 AM
Gambling in the art of making money when you become addicted to gambling you will do the same job again and again without any fear of loss. The gambling is also give you win or give you loss but to quit it easily is not possible for this you will start some other activities which keep you busy then after some time you will be able to quit gambling and start some other profitable business.
weird yeah lol , it's just a game that frequently makes people broke . but still people come and go there. the potential winning you would get when you wondering how much money you can make in gambling always be the top reason why they are keep coming back to gamble and feel they are addicted in the end. forget everything about gambling by looking for a real help from a psychiatrist , you know why? it's a mental problem.
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Player Vs Player Betting Game. Will you be interested to participate? on: October 30, 2017, 01:37:44 AM
To be honest 10 mBTC is 60 dollars and that is a lot for something new, you need to lower buy in on 1 or 2 mBTC, or to 1 or 2 dollars and that sounds more attractive for testing something.
You say 24 players, I don't know for any game with so many players, that sounds like some tournament but the game is for 1 vs 1 and winner goes to next stage. I would like to hear more about the game.
I have trust issues but I would try game with some small buy in, lower buy in will attract more people and if its good we can player for higher stakes.
yeah we might could consider 1 or 2 mbtc as lost even the games not started yet and it wouldn't be a big deal for anyone i guess. trust always matters , a new game with strange operator , i wouldn't risk my money but for 1 or 2 mbtc i guess it's worth for the neg trust if the event didn't run as planned and messed up Cheesy . however i always waiting for blackjack PvP game , just saying ....
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: October 30, 2017, 01:22:06 AM
Gambling dice is more fun in my opinion. Because only just press mouse. I don't need to rack my brains just for the sake of misleading analysis. And to get a bit winning, I just need to spend a few minutes. Contrast with soccer gambling that must wait long enough.
But i think it's too risky compared to LIVE games, Like sports games. Personally, I don't like to gamble in games which based purly in luck, because i think that is a waste of money, In other hand, sportsbetting is good, because if you have some knowledge in any type of sports, you can increase your chance to win rather than depending only in your luck.
gambling would always bout luck you know , no matter how you put a lot of efforts in it and no matter what game it is. in the end you win or lost depends on how the the luck is there for you or not. so just simply throw your money anywhere randomly and see the outcome , that's enough to make me happy anyway. don't need to choose specific game.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any tricks available in gambling to won the bet? on: October 29, 2017, 01:14:11 PM
I dont think there any trick or tips to win in gambling, gambling just a luck
play safe and dont be greedy when you playing gambling.
You are right, I don't think that is some trick to increase your chance when we talk about gambling, because mostly id depend on luck. So, as you said, we should play safely and avoid to be greedy, Also, It was good when we gamble in Real games, Like football, so you can increase your chance to win if you have some knowledge about Teams and players, etc.. Rather than gambling in games that based only in pure luck, like dice.
trick just part of superstition i think , why ? because there's no reliable source / research state that it's could make you have bigger chance mathematically when you do certain pattern to place bet and consider it by yourself as a trick or a strategy. all of them just delusional. if you being a little bit realistic you would know that it was just wasting time .
840  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why Bitcoin is better than Cash. on: October 29, 2017, 12:48:38 PM
Bitcoin is better than cash, because you can use it anywhere and wherever you go. Because bitcoin we have a chance to invest and earn easy money. Bitcoin has a good value and gives good profit. You can trade also in bitcoin, and use as payments online transactions. Its a global acceptance and no banks, and bitcoin is more secure than cash. Bitcoin has a great value and there are many benefits that we get from bitcoin.
it would useless to explain every single benefit that clearly we have experienced to common people , they are always worry about bitcoin security , the volatile makes them scared and noone rule bitcoin make it worse , they said ! ..... and the problem are there's a lot of people with traditional thought considering bitcoin as a crazy scheme to suck your real money into something worthless. we just need bitcoin adoption spread evenly and then bitcoin would recognized far better than cash.
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