He's not going to send you anything. Not sure if troll but if you've sent your money to one of those crypto doubling scams advertised on youtube etc then you've been scammed by an imposter.

Is it only an awful decision because you can't get paid for posts in off topic? I didn't move it but it doesn't really belong in there for two main reasons. One, the league probably isn't even going to go ahead and regardless of whether it does or not there's nothing to gamble on it yet other than maybe if you wanted to put money on whether it will go ahead or not.

This is the problem with the Gambling Discussion board and a symptom of signature campaigns wanting posts in the gambling boards as people just create threads for every league of sport in the world and every possible permutational of discussion on the subject so it's become more of a board for sports discussion rather than gambling discussion. I've literally seen people create threads in there for sports or leagues they've even admitted they're not even interested in. Merely discussing sports should really be in off topic or even its own Sports Discussion board but if it was in Off Topic people probably wouldn't post in there since they can't get paid.

Looks like theymos moved a similar thread to P&S recently as well: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285284.0

You can put a bitcoin address in your signature whether you're asking for donations directly or not, but what wouldn't be allowed was if you were making posts or spamming just trying to draw attention to the fact that you're looking for donations.

I unlocked it.

The signature bans can be set for x amount of time. They're usually given depending on the severity but are taken on a case by case basis. If someone only plagiarised once and they were already banned for a a year or whatnot sometimes I just remove the ban but other times it's usually 3,6,12 months or something.

Just report them as they're normally handled very swiftly. I agree that maybe it might be a good idea to look at other solutions like either brand new accounts are shadowbanned and have to be whitelisted first before their post goes public or newbies cannot post an url until it's been checked or something but there are always ways to skirt restrictions. In the meantime just keep reporting them.

Nope. I have no idea what stage it's at but I'm sure theymos is busy working on it. I guess it's been a bit of a running joke that it's 'coming soon' though haha. Probably not a good idea releasing it until it's watertight though. To be honest, I kinda like this board as dated as it is. Change is always jarring when you've been used to something for so long.

For now and unless theymos says otherwise I think we should just stick to whatever it pays more in, or if there's some confusion about percentages with bonuses or whatnot if it pays in an alt then it just goes in the alt board.

I've unbanned a few users for plagiarism. A feature was added where we can issue a signature ban instead and sometimes that is employed. It depends on the level of plagiarism as well. Sometimes people were permabanned for just one instance which is pretty harsh. For those that did it en masse though it's a different story.

Didn't get any response from any admins or other globals yet but two other mods proposed/agreed that it should be a 50% threshold which kinda makes sense. So if it pays 50% in bitcoin then it could belong in there. I guess we'll have to wait for what theymos says before it becomes a rule/guideline but the majority of what coin it pays in makes sense just to stop people offering a tiny bit of bitcoin to skirt the rule.

Here's what I said via PM:


I didn't see you created this thread but I asked about it in the staff board for clarification.

Yeah, could be. Hopefully campaigns don't start paying 1% in bitcoin or offering a small bitcoin bonus just to bend the rules.


There have been some that have paid out in both but not sure of the ratio. You can have threads in both boards if you accept or pay in both alts and bitcoin so technically it probably should be allowed but this is a unique case I guess.

Yeah, it would be helpful, though I believe it was one of the features being worked on for the new forum software.

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Again, damned if we do damned if we don't. Just for reference, would you prefer for staff to mark them as bad in future rather than be left unhandled? Theymos himself I believe has referenced to unhandled reports as essentially considered 'soft bad' or something, but we can mark them as properly bad if this is what you would prefer? I can certainly start doing that if you want some consistency. Of course I can't guarantee what other mods think of every other post hence why we take them on a case by case basis. Things like low-quality posts are subjective though. How the hell can you reach a consensus on that? Do you think mods are one big hive-mind or should hold a committee with all mods where we vote on whether each and every post should be deleted or not? Mods do their best to follow the rules but not everything is set in stone. Someone may create a thread that merely requires a yes or no answer, so would a person who replies 'yes' or 'no' be low quality? No, not if that's all the op is looking for or needs. If the op requires more than a yes or no answer then it's probably pointless or unsubstantial. Just posting an image may be spam. Someone just posting an image of a cartoon poop is probably unsubstantial and could or should be removed, but not if someone either posts or creates a meme that is relevant or funny, or posts a very helpful picturegram that explains a lot. Sometimes pictures are worth a thousand words so we shouldn't just be removing every solitary image that someone posts just because. Also, what would you define as trolling? Well, you might think this post is trolling. Someone might find a joke that is made at their expense as trolling, but where does it cross the line? Some people have skins thin or thicker than others and some people can't take jokes. Some people suffer barrages of attacks and don't complain about it or let it effect them and then other times people take 'jokes' way too far or develop into vitriolic grudges that clearly effect their mental well-being, but of course we as mods have to try decide what crosses the line as there is no official rule or law set in stone on what constitutes trolling.


Why don't you have a go at writing these 'defined' guidelines and propose them to theymos? I'd really like to see what you could come up with at least. If they're logical maybe even theymos will implement them. I doubt you can some up with anything actually workable or better than the current 'rules' but please feel free to prove me wrong. All humans are biased. It's impossible not to be. Let's take yourself for example. I've lost count of how many times I've seen you accuse me whether directly or indirectly of having something to do with one of your posts being removed or whatnot and it never has anything to do with me. You often can't seem to grasp the concept of off topic posts. Your posts in here are off topic. So, by the rules they should or could be removed. Should staff remove them to keep some sort of consistency that you require? If someone else does remove them then you will cry about it and likely assume it was me because of your biases or paranoia, but you'd be wrong.

And who are these gang members? An imaginary group of mods that are fowling the rules correctly or just don't have the same opinion as you? This wouldn't be your biased mind conjuring up conspiracies would it? Obviously you think there's some cabal of mods that are against you but what is likely happening is you've made a post that is against the rules or is liable to be removed like the one you complained about above and some other mod has done what they should and removed it, but because of your biases you think you're being attacked and cannot look at this objectively.

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I didn't remove it and can't see any reports on it either but it's obvious that zebedee's shitpost was removed and therefore yours was as well.

I'm not sure what thread of yours was moved (or deleted) but the Marketplace is pretty much just for selling things for bitcoin. If it wasn't anything to do with that then that's why it was likely moved or deleted. Or it was just another troll thread.


I usually have to pay for this kind of service so I am very welcome of his offer.

I don't believe I said this or you may have misinterpreted what I said. It's 100% not against the forum rules. As far as theymos or the mods are concerned you could have 100 accounts on the same campaign just as long as they're not shitposting en masse. I may have said something along the lines of the community often deems it a tagable offence. Personally I would think it's basically a terms of service violation of the campaign if it states only one person and if people want to tag people for it I wouldn't make an argument against that but I don't believe it's a crime either.

You're free to report anything you like, but personally I feel like handling posts from a very long time ago is overkill, unless it's something serious. I won't mark them as bad but they're more likely to go unhandled. Not every mod will have the same opinion though.


We're dammed if we do dammed if we don't. Let me ask you this, would you rather have them marked as bad? I often leave reports because I'm on the fence about them so I just leave them rather than penalise the person or user who's reported them.

Sometimes people go on reporting sprees and oftentimes it might be for things like spam or low-quality but that is completely subjective to all parties involved. You might look at the post and think it's ok, or maybe lazy but not enough to be removed and in those instances it's better to just leave them. Sometimes I just can't be bothered reading them all to make a decision but if they do go unhandled then that likely means every mod who has viewed them has come to the same conclusion.

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