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881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 17, 2017, 10:36:34 PM
If you already earned a nice profit and stopped playing then I would say that you are gambling in a smart way. But if you are referring to a play where you will think smart so you will always win, that is very impossible. I've seen strategies on forums and blogs and tried it but it don't work as always.

Most people are only considering the aspect of winning without thinking of loosing. So many people don’t usually even have the chance to win and end up loosing at the first attempt, so what happens to them?

The smartest way of gambling is to know from onset that the chances of loosing are high and if you can settle with that, then no problem. Also, even if you settle with that, that should make anyone to only gamble with what they can afford to loose and not get too greedy to the point that they loose pretty fast without having any fun in the process.
that's a human nature to think like that. but really hard to accept the fact that you have to let your money go in case you lost and even accept the fact that you will lost it at some point sooner or later. gamble like nothing to lose always better . but yeah mostly people gamble underpressure in high expectation to always get a good winning repeatedly which it's wrong thought.
882  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: October 17, 2017, 10:22:23 PM
when talking about Bitcoin’s future then first people will think about the price and its excellent potential growth. but there are more important things, it’s the development conditions of Bitcoin itself. Even though Bitcoin shows a satisfying performance but there are still many things that can be improved, especially in terms of privacy and scaling.
hopefully in the next few years we’ll see the development of Bitcoin which will attract more users.

technology always develop faster , i even believe within 5 years bitcoin would give us a big surprise! i'm not talking about value bitcoin only here as it's too mainstream to bring that matter. but more to about how bitcoin adoption could be drastically Increases . it would be a well known currency , buy things with bitcoin wouldn't be a strange thing anymore etc.
883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: October 17, 2017, 10:11:54 PM
My worst mistake is when I was playing with credit money in the hope of getting a big win and then getting my loan back, but I lost everything and then I had to give all the salary for loan repayment Angry

That's ridiculous! Never ever use borrowed money to gamble dude, never again. At least now you know the consequences and you learn from your mistakes. Gambling is okay as long as you know your limitations and you know who's money your are using and only gamble what you can afford to lose. So far I never experience worst mistakes in gambling since I rarely play these kind of games. When I do its just for fun or i only use a very small amount of money.
crazy indeed , gambling always force you to do something that normal people won't do that . everything would be full of regret at the end of your crazy decision , have a lot of debt due your greedy desire to get more and moore profit while actually you have achieved it before. too bad gambling addiction make things run messed up.
884  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: To Gamble or To Invest? on: October 17, 2017, 09:54:03 PM
im done with gamble.. since only host/dealer that have sure win.. its better to learn trading rather than depends on our luck..
I wish that many gamblers will going to realize that they can't defeat gambling and its too hard to win into it especially if you have no luck.
Yes, trading will be much better on it because to win is much based on your skills.
If your goal in gambling for profit, it's wrong because in the end we will always lose money. trading is always better than gambling, because trading is not dependent on luck. If you are smart then you can get a lot of money there.
 

In trading also when you target for a lot of money in the short term then you may lose money in trading because you can't predict prices on a daily basis. So day trading is very risky and it is almost like gambling so you shouldn't go for it. But surely trading is much better than gambling to make money and you should be very careful while choosing coin or any product to invest.

my advice for day trading is could not take much advantage, only a few percent and it will be safe. If the risk of the price down you should wait or cut lose. But if your capital is pretty much better wait because altcoin prices will surely recover. I am also as day trading is sometimes when the prices difficult to going up sometimes I wait for 2-3 days and finally I can get a benefit.
 
yeah better to trade and collect small profit but steady rather than big but occasionally and ended up badly with regret to get loss over and over again. gambling are not your answer to have profit in the long run. it's just a pleasure that never last for ling enough. just think about how gambling have destroyed career and player lives. there's only few story about how a trader get depressed and ended up bad, but gambling guarantee you to broke.
885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: October 16, 2017, 08:50:35 AM
I hate slot games. They so boring. They just have cute pictures and dance graphics and a few effects and sounds. Nothing special. You don't even do anything. Just push a button or crank a lever and sit back and hope. They don't even give you a fake sense of being in control because they only thing you in control of is the size of your bet and that is usually very small since slots has massive multipliers and jackpots. I think the people just like pulling the lever on the land based slot machines or hear the coins as you cash out. Tingle tingle they go.
the essence of gambling itself are to place a bet and wait for the result , don't you think? that's make me happy however to see everything run so random and you win it unexpectedly. rather than keep expecting something like a winning from gambling that clearly in the long run you would never get what you want. slot with its huge jackpot always attracting , that's the reason why people love to play there.
886  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How do you know if a gambling site is scam or not? on: October 16, 2017, 08:33:33 AM
Well knowing if a gambling website is a scam is sometimes a bit tricky since they won't be stealing any little amounts to ruin their reputation for nothing , but when it's over 6 digits things go south sometimes . I'd recommend the websites that are running signature campaigns in this forum .
just know your place to gamble before you do get started. a good and active customer service could be a consideration , but first of all you need to take a look who is running the site? are they reputable? trusted? if then they are run it anonymously better you know at least where you could complain when something bad happened to you with your funds.
887  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What did you buy for money won? on: October 16, 2017, 08:13:25 AM
Money from gambling sometimes not big because my funds to play not big too
So i am spent it only to buy some cheap goods like ciggarette then go to coffe shop
And buy a cup of favorite coffe or play it back to gambling and want to win more
Wow I think your not contented with the money you win, you wants more it is sounds of greediness. However it's up to you, because you can make your own decisions. For me I think if I win in the game, I used it also for fun like watching movies together with my family, playing and bonding with my kiddos in park or out of town. I do this because I don't want to buy any stuffs using gambling money.
keep getting a win won't last forever , to spend it for something like a temporary pleasure i think it wasn't a wise idea. you have to think about long term resolution , something that could help you in the future in case you are failed in gambling ( which i think high chance for anyone to suffering due gambling habit ) . be wise to spend your winning , before you regretful later.
888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 16, 2017, 08:02:31 AM
Experience can sometimes be useful in games like poker or sports betting, but still a high probability of success depends on luck, not on years of experience.

People think we can make fortunes with the experience they have in gambling, but it is completely wrong because they should understand gambling is completely based on luck.

In as much as i agree with you that experience doesn't guarantee gambling success, i also disagree that gambling is completely based on luck because some gambling games can be predicted with common sense and critical analysis. I'm a regular with sports bets and i have a great contro;l over my games and i manage wins every now and then with my insight.
still when you think certain games are can be predicted with certain way/analysis , gambling are gambling where the outcome are uncertain and random. you can make an accurate prediction , you need luck in the end. sometimes people think that looking for a strategy/analysis in gambling are useles, wasting time. better to do it randomly for the sake of having fun.
889  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long bitcoin will survive ? on: October 16, 2017, 07:01:43 AM
Bitcoin will run for long, as long as people are collecting and patronizing btc, as long as bitcoin is in the market we do no have to worry. And as far as I can feel bitcoin is getting stronger and stronger. It gets high valued investors. So do not worry. Bitcoin is here forever and i am waiting for the day when bitcoin will be the only currency in the market.
the market capitalization of bitcoin itself at least for now feel impossible to get disappeared and worth nothing , you can expect bitcoin would last for a year or so , i won't to say bitcoin would survive forever or long enough etc. just let's be relistic that the value of bitcoin have skyrocketed a lot of times to the highest in very short time , can we get the value droppped same as that short time skyrocket? i think it could happened too. so just becareful.
890  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China Will Likely Resume Cryptocurrency Trading by Licensing Bitcoin Exchanges on: October 16, 2017, 06:22:46 AM
Bitcoin can be shaken by a country just like what the Chinese government did yesterday but Bitcoin proved to have market power and showed a very good recovery because it's back to $ 4500, so it's not impossible for them to just want to test Bitcoin. they are worried about their citizens because many of them are involved in this field and Bitcoin can also boost their citizens' economy.
yeah it's just doesn't makes any sense when a superpower country like china who have big influence in cryptocurrency world leaving , it has a lot of benefit for them to keep developing cryptocurrency especially when the miner mostly come from there where the electricity cost far so low compared to any other country. they would do anything to survive . and here we go , they are rumoured to be back and not surprising actually.
891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why people are sharing tips? on: October 15, 2017, 12:31:58 PM
So, I'm sure many of you have seen tipsters on this section, in your Twitter, in chatrooms and some other places - it's the people who suggest you to place bets on certain picks in sports. And maybe some of you have asked yourself a question - why they are doing it? Why they are giving us advises how to win money absolutely for free - and by doing this they decrease their own profit, since the winning pool grows bigger as people follow their tips. Can anyone explain this?

Possibly a tipster shares tips for the following reason.

1. They enjoys this thing.
2. They want to build reputation.
3. They are using referral link to earn commission.
4. They are firstly giving free tips as marketing strategy and then they will ask you to join their premium service, which is paid service.

Whatever it is, if you get your first tip from a experienced tipster then you could make some money though  Wink
and sometimes they have a bad evil to run a scam service. they know nothing but pretending knows everything. i personally wouldn't believe anymore on any paid tipster service. better to do it by your self confidently rather than pay something that you could do it easily. it feels you get fooled in the end when you realized it later.
892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: October 15, 2017, 12:16:46 PM
I think with a small amount of investment is not worth, because invest it always takes a long time, time is money. so it's better to put a small amount on the fast way. like trading and making a profit every day.

To me my personal view is that small investment can be profitable in short term, while for investing your bitcoin for long term you need to have a good amount of bitcoin  because for long term investment you need to wait for a long time. so it is necessary that you can get a good profit after long long tine.
They are both profitable, it can only depend on your comfort because doing both requires you to do different approaches.
Short term investment requires you to be actively monitoring the market so you will find the right timing to sell for a profit, the market will dump
and pump so that opportunity will give you chance to make easy money as long as you pay attention and be aware of the news and speculation.
i think what we are talking about here are an investment in a gambling site that usually gives you low percentage profit , but when you do it with bitcoin it would be much more profitable more than just a usual investment. i mean just take a look to how bitcoin value grow time after time , even you gained 5% only , when you convert it in usd rates you would feel satisfied.
893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 15, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
I also feel that trading is almost similar to gambling. because when we are trading we are also hoping to earn profit by way of betting. for example when we buy it cheap, we expect the market to go up and we sell it, whereas when we sell it when the market price drops from our purchase price, we will lose. almost the same as gambling. it just my opinion, what do you think about it?

Some people really think trading is also gambling well we have to admit that some part of the trading is gambling but for me it really depends on your goal and the mindset you have, in trading you really have to analyze the market so you can make good money in gambling my thought is you only depends on chances and the probabilty of winning is not that so high.
Yes, gambling and trading have some similarities but we can not consider trading as gambling because in gambling, we rely solely on luck, analytical skills and experience not used too much, in trading, we rely on analytical skills and experience, luck is only a part. In addition, in gambling only win and lose, when we make the final decision, we will not be able to stop but in trading we can lose but then can still win by holding and wait, and we can stop whenever we want, trading requires analysis and calculation, if we only rely on luck, we will fail quickly
there's a lot of similarities and yeah doesn't mean it's same , people just didn't fully understand about how making money through trading far more reliable than gambling. where the proccess between both are so different. gambling with less effort and trading full of efforts. you need to have a lot of knowledge to trade properly but gambling nothing needed just luck.
894  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? on: October 15, 2017, 11:52:18 AM
All the things need to risk, success also need a risk and I think it's very risk to turn all money in bitcoin. Because bitcoin price unstable and unpredictable, better you put half into bitcoin and half again into business in not cryptocurrency investment.

I agree with your thinking, do not put all the eggs in a basket, divide them for investment. The hold of bitcoin takes a long time and during that time t can look to the crypto market.
there's no harm for anyone to go allin on bitcoin investment as long as you can afford to do it. take that risk and you might would get a better and bigger return. everything always worth with the risk. you just need to think about it carefully. if you looking for a safe move then yeah you should split it into several places , but when you ready to get a worst scheme , and not just about collecting instant money, go allin are your choice.
895  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: is it risky to turn all my money to bitcoins? on: October 13, 2017, 02:41:51 AM
Yes very risk, you should save some your money to the other things. Better for bitcoin is for long term investment.

Exactly because if we convert all our assets to bitcoin and in future we need money for some reason and bitcoin is down at the same time then we will haveto face a loss because we have to exchange bitcoin at that time. So better is invest some percent of your savings.
it's just the matter how dare are you taking risk, we have seen a lot of stories about how someone take big move by sell almost everything include their house for the sake of long term investment and while waiting the price increase they are travelling around the world. and when they back from travelling they can see how their investment work. live is about taking risk isn't it? so , it's up to you! indeed risky but it's worth!

That's a person with full flavors in life, Others may call him an insane/pathetic/crazy person, but for him living without risk is a boring life, I guess he is now witnessing the evident of what risks he takes, bitcoin is continuously gaining price increase.
yeah he knows what he's doing , have experienced the similar things before and learned from it very well. dare to take risk to get big rewards , it should be our motto when it comes to bitcoin investment. when everyone doubt about how bitcoin would live and survive in the long term , you play against that and see for the result later! risky means your live challenge.
896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the future of gambling on: October 13, 2017, 02:32:30 AM
it is likely that big gambling in the future will be more developed. Because now many people want to play gambling because it can give them a considerable advantage.
i don't think it's a reasonable one to earn money through gambling. i just know that the only advantage you can get in gambling are to have your own gambling site, not to play it as a player , you would always lost against the house edge. the development on how bitcoin casino popping up in the last five years show how promising this industry , bitcoin casino would be the best choice for those people who looking for a comfort online transaction .
for sure mate its the first option from those people who loves to hide their gambling activity and loves to play in the comfort of their house, i know
if this business wont have any issue with the government which govern their location it will jump real high in this coming years together with the
development of more popularity of bitcoin.
government always looking for tax sources income , no wonder for those people who have an idea to build a new business in gambling industry struggle to make it happen , but bitcoin come with its anonimity where everything run without having permission ffrom the third party , just launch your own site and start the business. it's like the real freedom are in bitcoin , people just not yet ready to realize about the wonder of bitcoin.

Governments are looking for taxes income, that's right and I agree with you.
But it is going to be a nightmare for them to tax bitcoin, it's a virtual currency which has a very high amount of anonymity, and the governments will really need to invent a method to tax virtual currencies.
It doesn't seem like it is going to happen at the near future.

yeah at least for now that a lot of bitcoin casino are free from tax , but sooner or later they would findout the way to make it regulated , once bitcoin casino become more popular than the real casino/online fiat casino. we don't need any regulation from government actually , as they are so don't care about bitcoin development now , only want to collect it later when they have to do something due they think have lost some income. online casino with bitcoin as currency to play really a perfect match. we are ready heading the future.
897  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hackers are active these days. on: October 13, 2017, 02:21:15 AM
It never happened to me but I think that it's just a mater of time when I am going to find my self on their radar too. It's good if you can get that kind of info so you can lay low for few days, just until the 'storm' pass.
And I have to agree with everyone here, hackers are active all the time, that's their way of earning and I don't know if there is good way to protect from those kind of unpleasant happenings.
they are interested on how the value of bitcoin skyrocketed , instead looking for a legitimate way they choose to use their ability making several attempts to acquire 'free bitcoin' , you should be more careful from now . especially when you have a wallet that contains quite a lot of bitcoin. clean your computer periodically to avoid malicious ware and set your password periodically too.
898  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: October 13, 2017, 02:13:27 AM
Logically speaking, gambling is not a sin because when you gamble you only risk your money as a result you can only threat yourself so we can't say that it is a sin. But from the religious point of view there is a notice that says it is a sin and their reason is that money from gambling is not deserved.
bring religion on this kind field i don't think it's a good idea. keep your personal faith like religion rules and something like that privately. gambling itself should be done based on your own will and full of responsibility , otherwise it could turn harmful and destructive. overall i think gambling are not something that bad , yeah i mean in general.

Of course it is in general because none is perfect, and whatever the thing it remains relative and admits defects and qualities. Otherwise I think that if it is about sin or goodness, the majority of people will think about their religion, however I did not do that and I gave all the existing approaches.
people keep talking about religion and this is not the right place to talking about that i think. we are all want to having fun here , and if you think it's against your religion norms then simply avoid gambling without have to throw the isuue publicly , keep it as your excuse why you have to stop and avoid it. we live in a lot of distinction. faith and point of view will never be the same as you wish. just do whatever you believe.
899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: October 12, 2017, 09:56:26 AM
because of LUCK EXPECTATION..of gambling.😂

This is the reason why I keep on coming back in gambling. I have been addicted to gambling for 3 years and up until now I have troubles on finding myself, I can't help to get out of it. I have tried many activities just like the others suggestion here in forum but it seems that none strategy is good for me. Maybe I'm born to be a gambling forever and will never have any luck on it, the worst gambler so far.  Angry
yeahhh actually there's no harm to keep chasing your luck and play some games , you just need to know your limit. don't be overconfident and gamble like you would always win. just stake the amount you can afford to lose , if you could put the money as low as possible and gamble for limited time like twice a week or once a month after you have received your payday.

i don't think that addicting person in gambling will know their limit because they only know how they can win the money and still chasing the money. actually they know about the risk but because the tempting of games itself that will makes them to come back to playing gambling. that person will still come back with the new hope that this day they can win more money with playing some games but they don't thinking more about how if they only loss in just one time played of the game.
that's why i said you need to know your limit , controlling your wild greedy and be more patient. the reason why people keep coming back to gamble mostly they never want to earn money through a hardwork , they feel gamble are the easiest way to make money , it's work successfully for once , twice and several times , but when they are keep trying the same thing repeatedly in the long run they are failed and start realized it's impossible to chase your losses. end of words they are confused and no idea what to do next.
900  Economy / Speculation / Re: what you think about bitcoin in like 5 years? on: October 12, 2017, 09:41:35 AM
I think anyone who owns even one bitcoin 5 years from now will be a millionaire and retired. Smiley

I'm planning to retire on my early 40's or 50's but up til now I still don't have enough bitcoins for retirement I'm only hoping for the price to increase and pump some more. But I know that it requires time, 5 years from now we don't have any insight on what's going to happen by that time it can go further or there can be a massive drops but I'll keep on believing with good speculations out there.
it's been almost ten year since bitcoin first time invented and introduced and it's gained from nothing to nearly $5,000 , so it's like $2,500 increment every 5 years i could say. but nothing sure in this world especially the volatility of bitcoin . it could have value more than $10,000 within 5 years but still bitcoin could still have the worst scenarion when the demands down to zero and become nothing again. you should consider about the bad things too , don't be overconfident.

Your almost needs 2 more years. That $10,000 value of bitcoin can happen for the next 5 years is very possible and I'm sure that day will come to pass.  But saying that bitcoin can come back to zero is impossible, yes bitcoin is volatile and doesn't have a stable value but with that statement to bitcoin that has currently $72 B of total market cap will be coming back to zero? Oh come on.
i won't say it as impossible , satoshi as a bitcoin inventor itself stated something similar like me. as he know what he has invented are full of risk could become so successful or remain failed in the end. indeed so far so good , bitcoin consistent showing a great potential and makes a lot of new investor attracted to know more. and we have set the new all time high value of bitcoin by the way. just cheers! 5 years more for $5,000 more!
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