Besides just the one what?

I would also like to see a better price, and I have a few alternatives for shipping to Europe. But US bound it seems that I can't really find anything cheaper for the weight. Also, it really doesn't matter where in the US I'm shipping to, it's always the same for me.

If you can find a better deal, maybe you can request a collection at my house from some delivery company? I know that is possible for companies with accounts with DHL and UPS, but I 'm not all too sure that's possible for private individuals.

Well, I'm pretty sure I can get a much better deal on the 5870s.

As for the shipping, remember this is being sent from Europe, not the US. I might be able to get a cheaper price, as the ones I'm quoting are from the local mail agency, but for these weights it gets really expensive to send to another continent. That's one of the reasons I was trying to push this to someone in Europe, as with the same price I can get a fairly larger profit, with less going onto shipping.

5970s: I'll pay ~$105 for shipping, which leaves $120. That's $60 per card and you get the dead one as bonus. Just stating this here in case someone else wants to make an offer and wants to know the item price minus shipping.

for all cards: so I'd be paying an extra $50 for the 5870s to be shipped along with the 5970s, which means that 475 - 225 - 50 = 200, or $67 per card. That is not all that interesting to me, to be honest. For reference, I take 1300MHs+ from these cards.

You don't have to, but I would surely appreciate it

But the original sell offer for the 4 (plus the dead one) is no longer in effect, so I guess the short answer is; yes.

Probably tomorrow I'll make my mind regarding the 5870's, just in case you are interested on these as well.

Ok, I'm really sorry but I'll have to change my offer. I have:

- 2x 5970 with a single core working (each pumping ~370MHs @ 820/300, fan 80% keeps temps at ~55ºC)
- 1x 5970 dead. It passes POST and is detected by the driver, but then the driver crashes at the first --odgc. I have it as just the board, the cooler is now detached (I wanted to do another visual inspection). Can be shipped fairly cheap like this, as most of the weight comes from the cooler, but I can also send the cooler (though detached, not wasting any more thermal paste on this one). As an added note, I used the screws from this one on another board, as I seem to have lost my big'ol bag'o'screws. I will find it, but I may not have time to search for it for some time.

The other 2x 5970 that were supposed to be cripple have found a new breath of life. I opened them to re-apply thermal paste in preparation for the buyer and when I tested them they were working again. I thought it would be a passing thing but they both endured a good 10 hours mining @ 820 without any incidents. They might still be crippled, I'm certainly not confident on their health, but they are working well atm. If anyone wants to make an offer on these I'll consider it, but 5970s are the most power efficient GPUs I have tested, so these are the ones I want to keep.

If I do end up keeping the 5970s, I might have 3x 5870 working perfectly (*) for sale instead... I need to juggle the power requirements as explained before, so the less efficient must go.

(*) - 1xSaphire, 1xATI, 1xXFX - the ATI has a wonky fan, it makes an awful sound at low RPM and seems to stop and start regularly, but when at 80% is works great, which is where I keep it anyway. I have one potentially dead XFX that could donate the cooler after I do a good check on it.

PS: Of course there's a chance that either or both of the recovered 5970s go south again, in which case I'll just go back to the original offer. Since I will not be shipping anything before Monday anyway, I thought I'd just come forward with this new information and I'll update the thread as needed if things change.

There is no obvious damage to the cards, that much I know. I assume that, unless there's a very obvious component to replace I'll be better off just selling the cards to someone that will make good use of the working core, but since you guys obviously know better if there is something else I should look for, some component I can pop off and test somehow, I'd be happy to try.

I'm (obviously) no electronics engineer, but from the way the cards behaved, especially when I could still use them with 2D but not 3D I would say the VRMs are almost certainly to blame. Of course, I don't really have a good way of asserting that.

Is that something I can fix "at home"? I have access to top of the line soldering stations, all the test equipment I can handle, and all the other gizmos at a friend's factory, but I don't want to waste their time unless there's a chance it can actually work, and I surely can't use any of it without proper guidance.

Well, I did learn it and I've been told no lesson is too expensive, provided you learn it


None of the two verbs presented make sense to me... sorry. Reflowing make me think about wave flow soldering, which is NOT something I'll try, and reballing makes me think of basketball which, hmmm, there's an idea!

Indeed that's true and I have since learned my lesson, proof being I have a handful of 5970s and 5870s that work flawlessly and have done so for almost a year now. But these have been mining on the good core without issues.

They will not work for gaming because the primary core is the damaged one. Most will not even give any image, and while one of them (at least) does give image, using any 3D will immediately lock or reboot.

That is one great question. They didn't all die simultaneously, mind you, but I've been mining for over a year now and I have had my share of overheating cards, so I'm guessing that's the thing.

Nowadays I do either WC or open frame with pci-e extenders, but there was a time when I ran 2 or 3 5970 on a smallish case with improper air flow, meaning they would run at 80~90ºC for weeks in a row. So I'm guessing that did it, but they didn't just fail, the cores would start locking randomly (always the same core) and I would eventually take out the card, take the cooler off, apply better thermal paste and replace pads as needed, it would run both cores for a while again and then the failing core would start failing again until eventually the failing core would die and neve operate again.

There's at least one of the cards where the failing core is still operational, in the sense you can mine off it for a while before it locks. I have also completely killed some 5970s along the way, and I have one such paperweight if anyone is after the cooler or believes they can fix it. The card does POST and gets detected by the X driver, but one call to aticonfig --odgc takes a minute or so to respond, after which the driver locks.

My experience is with XP and about an year ago. I tried mining on Windows and what is appeared to me is that the two cores were usable individually, but windows kept the cores linked internally, thus there was always some processing going on in either core, which is something you most certainly don't want with these cards.

So, yeah, I wouldn't buy these if you are stuck with windows, but it might work, I don't know.

No problem, it is just important we keep things as clear as possible, for everyones benefit.

So $300 for all 4, shipped... I'll pay around $140 for shipping these, which leaves me with $160 for the pack, or $40 a piece. I'll have to do some calculations to see if it is worth the trouble or not, but for now... any higher bidders? Maybe someone in Europe so the shipping doesn't take such a high cut?

I have obviously tried my best to grab this deal before someone else would take it from me by offering a fair price BTW, thanks for that, Littleshop!

We couldn't come to an agreement, and while I haven't had a reply to my last PM to the seller, the reason I'm backing off is really simple; scarletwolf doesn't mind me sending the btc after receiving the phone, or at least put it under escrow after he shows me the shipping slip, but he wants the shipping value ahead of time so he "doesn't loose money if I decide to change my mind after he sends".

As I have stated before, I will put the whole value, shipping included, in the hands of a commonly agreed to escrow before he ships, but I will not send him any coins before I receive the phone. This, it seems, is not something he can agree with.

I asked him to state this here so others know he is open to offers again but remember; "if it seems to good to be true...".

Good luck to whoever gets to buy this, it seems to be an amazing deal.

Ok, I'm not familiar with the unit of measurement of value you state... is that us$, btc, something else?


They are as good as a 5870, but with lower clock ranges and much better cooling. So better than a 5850, not more or less a 5830.


And the country? I'm biased to believe you are American, given you decided to assume I know where you are.


There is no 'rest of the rig'. If you read my posts carefully you'll see only the cards are offered, the full rig would be something I'd cook up if I was to decide giving away the cards to relatives.

I'm willing to sell for what they are deemed to be worth by the community. I didn't put up any price on purpose, though I will give this away to a family member, as a full working mining machine, if the price offered is just not worth my trouble of packaging and sending. Come to think of it, that's one amazing xmas gift

Anyway, make me a full offer, how many cards, full price in btc or us$ you are willing to pay for them shipped and also tell me where I'll be shipping to, and I will most certainly consider it.

Hey,

So I've tried to push some of these before, but ended up not doing it. I have 4 x 5970 that all exhibit the same crippled symptoms; one of the cores can't be used, it locks at 99% usage if you use it and eventually the whole card stops responding.

They all work (and are working) if you limit yourself to the other core. I can get ~360MH/s out of each with 820Mhz (using 300Mhz ram clock). I'm no longer sure what brand these are as I've mixed and matched the fans, with AC coolers and watercooling in the midst. They are all reference design, some will be Saphire, some ATI and some Asus. The BIOS has been tweaked in all of them to allow using lower ram clocks, down to 300Mhz, but that's it, stock voltages and other values for everything else.

I can only mine with these during the night time, as my household power usage during the day prevents me from sucking all that power without tripping the breaker, thus I'm starting to "clean up the house". These are the first I will try to sell, but I'll also have some WC material to follow.

No photos yet, but you know what a 5970 looks like, right?

NO GUARANTEE!!! The fact one core gave up means the other may give up too, obviously. I can assure you the other works, and has worked consistently for months after the first one gave up (if only at night time as described), so if you get a card from me and it simply does not work, I'll take it back and refund. But if it works and then quits, you are on your own, I will not take any refunds after a couple of days from you receiving the card.

Also, don't even consider using this on windows unless you can make sure the bad core isn't touched at all. These cards don't give out any image (probably because the bad core is the one responsible for the DVI output) so they are worthless outside mining.

Finally, these will be shipped from Europe, and they are heavy. Expect $45 shipping in Europe and $65 to the US, though I might be able to cut that down a little if I shop around. Of course, combining shipments is possible and less expensive than individual ones, but ask for quote first.

Any takers?

Not a problem. Because I'll be travelling to that side of the pond very soon I'll try to work out someone to receive the phone for me in the States. Failing that I'll need you to ship to Europe, I'll PM you the country + zip code.

Not that it matters but how many GB does the iphone have? And what IOS version do you have it in?

Right, I should have assumed Canada when you mentioned Rogers... Heh, I'm going way down south, so no meet'n'greet in person for sure. Still, let me know if you think we can come to an agreement on the deal process.

Perfect


I don't think IDs and such are of much help, and I don't want to assume you are a scammer obviously. I wasn't proposing using an escrow site, but rather asking one of the older, trusted members of this forum to mediate the transaction. If we can't find one that we both trust and you don't trust me either then I'm afraid we can't work this out. Have a look at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=37805.0 for a list of potential candidates. I have been around for almost 1.5 years and if you search the forum you'll see that there's little risk in dealing directly with me, but since I could have been just waiting for this opportunity to grab your iphone and run (*wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge*) I will perfectly understand if you require a third party. Where are you located, btw, as I'll be visiting the US soon and, who knows, maybe I'll be close by.

I could be interested but:
- Is it simlocked? If it is then I'm not interested as I'll be using it in Europe and I want to keep the regular apple updates.
- I will not pay anything upfront, period. I can use a trusted member as escrow, and will gladly pay for his/hers/its service, but since you have zero trust here, and a quick check will show you I'm well trusted, I feel that this shouldn't be a show stopper for you.

Pictures? Date of purchase? Any extra info regarding the device, like scratches and bumps as well as battery life would be really helpful.

Thanks!