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9281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Storing of Bitcoins is against Bitcoin. on: November 10, 2016, 07:25:33 AM
People does store gold, and do you think those affect those marketplace? No, it doesnt affect, soo why would it affect bitcoin, be sure some people still hold their coins and wont sell them anything lower then 1000 dollars, and there is 7 years of bitcoin, and people will wait more time to dump them.

There is a difference between a gold and bitcoin. Gold is mined and we do not know the supply while bitcoin has a specific supply only. When it is hoarded, then there is a time that we will have a limited supply.

In the market data, you can find all those demand and supply information about all products. In both categories, prices will go up when demand goes up. If most of the people holds bitcoins and individuals still want to buy and there is not supply available in the market then automatically prices will go up.
If  supply would  be scarce  for sure the price would  go  up  and  we  all  know   about  the  law of supply and demand. Storing  bitcoins isnt   ideal  thing to  do  because   it wont  help  bitcoins  ecosystem    to grow  but  the  price increase  would  be  possible . as long there are  people  would   actively spend their bitcoins.
9282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin wallet in bank? on: November 10, 2016, 05:38:37 AM
I dont think  government  would allow this  kind  of   law or   implementation   because   fiat would  really  be affected  if   the people  of  certain country   would switch  to  bitcoin  economic state  would really be  unstable  on that country. Same as  other members  mentioned  here and  i  really agree  to that.
9283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: November 09, 2016, 04:02:14 PM
I think it just need some courage to help every person. But for a whole country it will be hard. If every single man could see bitcoin as a good investment then they might see it as a helpful way for each one.
It would  be  impossible if your aiming for the whole country because  even  on  convincing  one  people  would  be  already  hard  how  much  more  on  millions of people.  If  people would do  find  good thing   on  bitcoin he would surely  use it no matter what
9284  Economy / Long-term offers / Re: I want to make loan for trading. on: November 09, 2016, 03:36:36 PM
No point in asking with that red trust.  Nobody gets a loan here with red trust period. 

Seconded,  no one would  able to trust  you for 2 general reasons. You have a   negative   trust  and   a newbie account. No one  would able to  lend  you   for such amount  2-10 btc? are you  insane? Smiley  No strong  collateral.
9285  Economy / Services / Re: MERCATOX: Referral promo and Signature campaign on: November 09, 2016, 02:50:26 PM

Hi Mercatox,

I saw  that  im  included  on the  payout  list  but  i didnt recieve  nothing  on  my wallet.
Can you  please  check this  out? Supposedly  im recieving 0.0069  .. thanks

Do this  campaign would  run another week?

Sorry, we have sent your payment to your old btc address. Please check your payment on your old adress
https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b2f7a1bbc44497622b497bcc8e84e8b90363fed21d6adcca7224576bb34e42eb
Transactiom ID: b2f7a1bbc44497622b497bcc8e84e8b90363fed21d6adcca7224576bb34e42eb

Yes, the campaign will be extended

Please let me know if you have any questions

Yes  i see it now, thank you
I didnt  notice  because  i  dont  logged in  on  my old address.
On next payment could  you  use  my new address that  i gave,

Thank and more power on this campaign Smiley
9286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: November 09, 2016, 02:24:07 PM
house edge is never gone

Still, if you are able to control your bankroll well, you would be on the winning site

That is important and needed by the house so that they will able to completely support the operation of the website. And because of making the players lose, they will get profit so the favor is always with the house. And if you believe that the house always win, then why not be with the house and try to invest some of your bitcoins with them.
Not much sites accepts investment on bankroll but there are reputable sites like bitvest , cryptogames , and etc . Needs huge money to get the profit from invest in bankroll when you can control yourself you will be safe on long run and get profit

Very true. It just really takes some time and a huge number of capital to feel it. This is not advisable for those who are just starting, I prefer you go through some thread here about investing in gambling sites before taking that leap.
Investing  on the  house  itself  would  be really a  good  idea  if  you wish to have a good  investment  rather than  playing  on the site itself  because  as everyone  claiming here  house  would really  win on the  long  run  and left those   gamblers  broke and  lose up all their money.  House  does have   the edge  on beating  you all the way  thats why  when we play gambling ,  we  must  be already aware on the risk.
of course, nothing can be more profitable than investing in the bankroll of the casino. The more investment you put the more income you  will generate, but when you are a gamble the more money you gamble the more money you lose, house rules and they have the edge.
But still  investing  on  casino  or house  itself  is  not safe  at all and you cant be sure to gain profits  on  monthly basis  because there are some times that you wont   gain  nothing at all . If a certain gambling  site  could  able  to generate good profits then  expect good returns too  in  your investments.
9287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Often Do Gamblers Really Win? on: November 09, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
The answer to the question is seldom, most of the time the gambler will lose, either it was lose due to the bad luck or didn't know when to stop, I can see more people become bankrupt rather than become rich in gambling, i think the casino had ways to earn profit from us, so that's why don't hope too high in gambling, and gamble with responsible
Indeed  and just as expected on  gambling,  we cant  really  guarantee  profits on  it  and  in the  long run  most gamblers  would  surely experience loss  of  money  and   thats  the  reality   on   gambling  thats  why  we shouldnt  be  shocked  if  we  loss easily  on  it.  Winners  are  only few compare to lossers.
9288  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: November 09, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
I think you can save 50% your money and 50% you can use to invest the money. I think better if this can do.
saving and  investing   is  really a good thing to do 50% on  saving and 50% on  investment, my question is  what  about  on   your expenses  into  your needs? How  will you consider it?  How  will you survive? Its  not  really a wise  move though   because   you put  too much  focus  on your  aims  but  you wont survive  if  you dont eat and  dont  have shelter and clothing. lol
9289  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: For what was Bitcoin created? on: November 09, 2016, 08:21:06 AM
We dont  know  the exact reason why  satoshi nakamoto created  bitcoin  but  on the  bitcoins  characteristics  speaks  to itself   why  its being  created. We could say that  saothis  might   give  us freedom  to take full control of our  money  without  the  involvement  of  banks and   making   online  transactions  more oooooooooofar away better compared to traditional ways.
9290  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: November 09, 2016, 07:00:22 AM

No one mentioned about pimping themselves here?   Shocked
I saw there are markets for it. check this out http://footfetishvideos.net/order-videos-from-clips4sale-com/
you can get nude now and post your videos there if you are desperate enough Grin

If someone would try that, that means they are really desperately in need, like they need money for emergency and the patient is in between life and death, or that someone needs a weed and nowhere to get money... Some even sold their blood, or kidney or any other thing in the body that can be sold in order to satisfy their needs, or really use the money for the said emergencies...  Smiley

check some sites, the rest of users are selling their nude photos for btc.  have you seen metartnetwork.com? site is feature nude artwork better than what we can see on deviantart.

I never thought that there's such a services like this also in bitcoin world. Yeah if you really needed a money and have a good body definitely this can be one of your option  Grin

Same here  , i never though  this  kind of service which  is already  offered   for  bitcoins. These  would  be  a   good  way for some  girls  but  for  those  liberated   girls  only and  as we all know  girls are different  though  in some aspects, maybe they  would  dive  in  or  out   on this kind of thing.
9291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: November 09, 2016, 05:41:27 AM
Gambling is not  wrong as  long you treat it as  an entertainment  because  if   you already  aiming  to make  money  with it  then  you got addicted then  thats the time  gambling  would  be  wrong because  it would surely  lose  you  up  money  on the  long run which cause   for you  of being broke.
9292  Economy / Services / Re: MERCATOX: Referral promo and Signature campaign on: November 09, 2016, 12:00:07 AM

Hi Mercatox,

I saw  that  im  included  on the  payout  list  but  i didnt recieve  nothing  on  my wallet.
Can you  please  check this  out? Supposedly  im recieving 0.0069  .. thanks

Do this  campaign would  run another week?
9293  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is it safe to keep all your Bitcoins in one wallet? on: November 08, 2016, 03:46:37 PM
It depends on  what  type  of   wallet  are you storing  up  your bitcoins, If its  on an  online wallet then  sure  it has big risk  on  lossing it because  you  dont have  its private keys  unlike on pc wallets and  cold storages.  Web wallets are  only  good for faster online transactions.
9294  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Pacquiao Vs Vargas on: November 08, 2016, 03:23:18 PM
Pacquaio is the first senator to ever fight in professional boxing. I guess this means a lot for him also, he gave glory to his country and he did before. I am afraid that if he will continue to fight and he will become the next president of the Philippines, he might have another accomplishment. LOL Grin Grin

If that happens, Pacquiao will become the first President to ever fight in professional boxing.  Grin

Honestly, he is an honest to goodness person.Earning his billions through an honest means by boxing way to become rich and popular. Unlike those politician who are corrupt and gain through shady transactions.We knows Pacquiao's humble beginnings.
oh well if duterte will finish his term i guess sen pacquiao will be a good option seeing what he can do and how seriously he wants to learn
pilipino are now admiring him unlike before when he first showed he's interest to senate campaign but moving back i guess he should retired
now and focus with his career in politics he already proved who is he inside the boxing rings so better to focus helping pilipino and make good
bills for the poor. congrats PACMAN!!!
This topic is already out of topic and nonsense mate this should be lock now .and your topic is about politics and society now it is better to create a new topic there instead of replying on this. Pacquiao and Vargas fight is already done .

I agee with you  its already  irrelevant to the topic which  is  not  already connected  because  hes already talking about  politics  better to create a new  thread  before  mod  would see this  post  as  spam.  Lets  move on  guys  , the fight is  over and we already see the results  and Congratulations to  Pacquiao
9295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who can tell that when our luck come to us? on: November 08, 2016, 03:04:42 PM
No one could able to tell  you  on when  you have   luck  because  it comes  unexpectedly and   you wont  notice  it also.  No fortune teller would able  to  say so. We can really say  its  our  lucky day when theres  a good thing that  happen  to  us.
9296  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: paypal to btc on: November 08, 2016, 02:33:51 PM
have $2.27paypal
need btc
thanks...
Hi  Op,  i would tell  you  , you would really have a hard time   to find  people who  transacts  with  you  because of the cashback feature  of paypal. I dont say that you are scammer  but  most people  would really avoid this thing   of  being scammed  by someone. better to trade of  on p2p.
9297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Sorry to all who buy Zcash at 1btc + on: November 08, 2016, 02:09:21 PM
it was all a hype and i am sure many have made good amount of profit from the rise (i missed it though because i was busy those days!) but it is always possible as long as you realize that all altcoins have is hype and nothing else.

also know when to get out which is the most important part of it all Cheesy

If you  know  how  to enter  then you should  know when  to exit  and this is the hardest part  on trading because  price  is  unpredictable though  and people  who  do make trades  with it. I really  feel sorry  for those   stupid  traders or  investors who  bought zcash on insane prices. Better to  wait  for a  month  before you decide to trade with it, just  letting  up the   hype gone.
9298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: Buying ICONOMI / ICN shares on: November 08, 2016, 12:50:55 PM
I'm buying ~ 20k ICN at 13-14k satoshi each. Pm for more detalis, thanks.
Please note that the usual price right now is around 16k -17k satoshi and I was actually thinking of making a simple exchange site where users can buy and sell ICN tokens because as far as I can see a lot of people are interested in this and some are also getting scammed and then I came to know kraken has reliable services for buying selling ICN tokens.


On this  kind of  transaction for sure  people would really tend to choose  up  on  exchanging it  to an exchanger rather  than  making  transaction with others and also  they would  surely refuse  your offer because you  have  lower  price compare  to exchanges, theyll get less profits.
9299  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Would you open a Bitcoin account at your local bank? on: November 08, 2016, 12:13:16 PM
100% NO, in fact i think this is very dumb idea and exact opposite of bitcoin.
Also, according to my vote (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1652815.0), 64.5% of bitcoiner in here also disagree with it.

Personally, i think people who agree with this kind of idea must be don't care about bitcoin, only seek profit or just hate bitcoin.

The  poll results  would be  definitely  expected  and  majority  will choose  no  because we  love  bitcoins  the way  it  is as  of  now  therefore  if its  being  putted   to a  bank it means  anonymity  feature would be  gone and  its  already being controlled  by government which  means they can already  impose tax  on you. I love  bitcoin as  of  now and   that cant be change  because bitcoin is decentralized and  no one could able to  control it.
9300  Other / Archival / Re: Nice dip to buy more cheap BTC on: November 08, 2016, 11:01:28 AM
Thanks china, your dumb policies will make smart people able to stack on more BTC before the unavoidable 1000+ dollars rise. Time to buy.
almost all of the price rise in bitcoin was due to the help from china and all of the mining activities is done in china so they do have the influence in the market,if there is any restrictions in china ,it is really hard for the price to reach $1000 .
Very true,  and  im  thinking the same thing too  because   china  really  plays a big role  on  bitcoins  ecosystem  and  now its policies  would really affect bitcoins price and we  would surely  have a  hard time to reach  $1k price same as you mentioned.
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