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does anyone here still maintain the NHZ asset on the NXT asset exchange? was that run by the core team of horizon or a third party?
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I think the valuation is fair, the project is super exciting, the potential market being tapped is enormous. I think Facebook would have a hard time trying to convince people that their model is better than this one where the users are directly benefited.
I think the reason it's not raising more money is due to not much marketing presale. And possibly would have been more trusted if it was clearer that it was being handled through a third party. I know Omni is handling the funds, but it could've probably been clearer.
I think once they can release a platform, they will have MUCH better luck on the second round.
tokens are selling for fixed USD price, so people waiting for btc to go back up to ~300 USD. Why buy today and feel crap if you can get 25% more AMPs if bitcoin rallies. Personally I think you should have sold for fixed btc price |
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Road map looks good to me!! BTCD community needs to see the big picture, and the current context of the crypto wide bear market. When the bear turns to bull, and jl777 has all the pieces in place BTCD hodlers will get a dble slingshot into orbit. When BTCD is trading for $100 or more it wont make much difference if you bought BTCD for $1 or $5, you'll still be way in the black with multiple actual dividend/earnings streams to live on. See the big picture, appreciate the current market difficulties for ALL coins, and think ahead 6-12 months. The future is VERY bright!!
+1  And thanks for the 'unbuilt car to the moon' comment in your previous post - still making me laugh the following day and that takes some doing  A car is a good analogy for many reasons. You don't have to understand all the intricate details of how it works in order to appreciate how beneficial it is to use. BTCD will have many uses but the two that excite me the most are: 1- revenue stream (3x5%) 2- real world anon transactions via pre-paid debit card There will be many others advantages too, but earning a passive income that I can spend anonymously in the real world is what excites me the most. That's why I think it's almost a certainty that the jl777-BTCD mobile will land on the moon soon!  |
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I think people are losing faith in BTCD. With months of delay, and the dev's distracted by a bunch of other coins/assets/exchanges whatever. Every time it seems the finish line is in sight, and then again some other new project pops up.  I understand you guys are very busy, but why not focus on 1 thing at the time and deliver a working product before starting with something else? I would really like to see an ETA for the BTCD features (teleport, revenues etc) Not even a date, just like in terms of weeks? months? years?! yeah, why not finish the transmission so we can drive to the moon already! what, you can't drive to the moon with transmission system on its own? what, you mean we need wheels, engine, electricals, and gas .. what brakes as well, so we touch down nicely on the moon ... holy crap ... what, do you mean to tell me jl777 is building a bunch of mini machines that all fit together to make an integrated SUPER machine? oh fuck, jl777 is building a fucking car ... i'm so pissed off, I thought he was building a fucking gear box. I want my money back jl777 .... you ripped me off dude. I paid for a gear box to take me to the moon, not a fucking car!! Stop working on all the other pointless shit. Anyone with a half a brain knows a car is overkill on a trip to the moon anyway .... buy cheap while you can. be thankful most people around here don't see the big picture until after it's gone to the moon I am doing what needs to be done so Teleport actually provides privacy. Without that, there isnt much point to it. But to do that it is more than a car, you do want to breathe during the space trip, maybe have food and water too? And so there are many things that need to be done, but I am making steady progress. To show some meaningful progress, I did do the ramchains in a month and it is working in the realtime MGW, much better than the old MGW. also notice: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2yxid5/chainalasys_vs_mycelium_the_full_story/ they also made a special database to make bitcoin calcs faster. However unlike ramchains which cut the size in half, they made it 3x bigger to get similar benefits. And the MGW is needed for InstantDEX, which is needed by Tradebots, which is needed by Teleport. I am also adding quantum computing resistant methods, Ddos prevention, and even things that dramatically limit sybil attacks and as you know that makes an eclipse attack nearly impossible to do as you need the sybils for that. So these are things that werent on the original plan, but I did get a teleport proof of concept done last summer, so the tech is there, now I am doing a second pass to make it ready for production. So, for those that are impatient, there are plenty of people that would be happy to buy at current prices. Just PM me. If anybody knows any devs that can help me, then PM me, I am up to 65000+ lines of new code so this is getting to be a medium sized project now. I am currently writing a crypto777 library to offer the best encryption and privacy possible. As far as timelines go, over the next month I expect to get the new crypto777 integrated into the codebase and there will be a few InstantDEX bugs that need to be fixed. At that point, Tradebots becomes the hot burner project and it is doing the key onramp/offramp for the Teleport system, so rough timeframe is a month per item. Road Map: crypto777 library, fix InstantDEX bugs, Tradebots for onramp/offramp, Teleport, Telepathy Ive been doing 18hrs per day for a while now, might need to slow down to 14hrs per day for a while to recuperate back to full power. I hope that is ok? James Road map looks good to me!! BTCD community needs to see the big picture, and the current context of the crypto wide bear market. When the bear turns to bull, and jl777 has all the pieces in place BTCD hodlers will get a dble slingshot into orbit. When BTCD is trading for $100 or more it wont make much difference if you bought BTCD for $1 or $5, you'll still be way in the black with multiple actual dividend/earnings streams to live on. See the big picture, appreciate the current market difficulties for ALL coins, and think ahead 6-12 months. The future is VERY bright!! |
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I think people are losing faith in BTCD. With months of delay, and the dev's distracted by a bunch of other coins/assets/exchanges whatever. Every time it seems the finish line is in sight, and then again some other new project pops up. I understand you guys are very busy, but why not focus on 1 thing at the time and deliver a working product before starting with something else? I would really like to see an ETA for the BTCD features (teleport, revenues etc) Not even a date, just like in terms of weeks? months? years?! yeah, why not finish the transmission so we can drive to the moon already! what, you can't drive to the moon with transmission system on its own? what, you mean we need wheels, engine, electricals, and gas .. what brakes as well, so we touch down nicely on the moon ... holy crap ... what, do you mean to tell me jl777 is building a bunch of mini machines that all fit together to make an integrated SUPER machine? oh fuck, jl777 is building a fucking car ... i'm so pissed off, I thought he was building a fucking gear box. I want my money back jl777 .... you ripped me off dude. I paid for a gear box to take me to the moon, not a fucking car!! Stop working on all the other pointless shit. Anyone with a half a brain knows a car is overkill on a trip to the moon anyway .... buy cheap while you can. be thankful most people around here don't see the big picture until after it's gone to the moon |
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...so cryptocurrency will become their business and main source of income instead of just being a "Hobby" project...
Indeed but I think we need to do that carefully. It is a bit like "artists" being paid for "art". Sooner or later you end up with "plain rubbish" being created by untalented people and promoted by fools just so that everyone can "make a buck". +1 Hard truth is 2014 became a cycle of scams because too much 'silly' money around. NXT dev community is a stand out from this time, and yet very few devs in NXT get paid. Now that Qora dev is 'retired' there is a great opportunity for new devs to take things forward - Qora is 100% free now, there's no leader, nobody has to ask permission from the 'big kahuna' now. Qora is fully decentralised now, like NXT became post-BCNext. I can see a great future for qora now. Qora dev completed his work, now others can move forward in anyway they like, just like in NXT. If it works 'you beauty', if it doesn't 'no problem'. Decentralised funding is difficult, but it's the only way IMO. |
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VERY GOOD NEWS FOR THE QORA COMMUNITY!!!! 1. halibit, the operator of Exchange Alcurex.org has agreed to add Qora to their exchange. I'll be working with him to add Qora to their exchange.. Stay tuned.  2. A good news for CIYAM Team, halibit is very interested in working with AT technology. I feel he is a very capable dev with dedication. So Ian, I'll send him your way? this is really very good news alcurex is a solid exchange, so this is very good news indeed!! well done |
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Yeah it's pretty much over for this coin sadly  I'm not ready to say it's over just yet, but we need Rofo to chime in with his current thinking asap. Hard times for all cryptos lately. NOBL was, and still might be a real world winner. |
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Hi guys, its awfully quiet around here... any news Joe? Did the headache go away  Yep Not going to be quiet for long. Sounds good, any eta? |
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Feels like Qora is building some pretty solid momentum now, like we're at the tipping point for becoming a top 10 CMC. Good vibes ahead |
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Give me you qora address, I will give you 3m qora for you. I wish you can extend more about qora.
Hi eli_lyd1, Thanks so much for your support and kind gesture, but it's totally not necessary. I'm just doing whatever I can to support the project in my spare time, and I don't expect to get compensated for doing it. If anyone likes my stuff and want to use it, then I'm happy. That's all it matters.. For now, I think we should conserve our resource and only donate toward worthy causes (we might need to set up funds later on to get teams on board.. for instance). A quick update on what I've been doing -- I've been playing with Qora's source code since the GUI source was made available by qora. I've cloned and imported the source using eClipse and made a few changes to the source. 1. Initially, Qora was made to work with JDK 7.0. I've upgraded Qora to use JDK 8.0 and it requires a few changes to the source. 2. I'm trying to update MapDB version as suggested by kushti and DeMap. 3. Just playing around with the source (with GUI in particular) and see how everything works. 4. I'd like to create a custom Wallet with built-in Arbitrary Transaction demo application. Anyways.. just tinkering for now.. Has anyone managed to compile the source and successfully created a working JAR yet? In case anyone is curious, GUI source is available here: https://github.com/Qora/Qora/tree/master/Qora/src/gui@calvinstm, awesome work, thanks a lot for working on things. @qora, good luck and thanks for all you did, Qora has HUGE potential. Come back when you can |
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I met you at supernet slack, and you were impressed with Viorcoin features. You asked about the source and I said it's closed source and you said if I opened the source a lot of coins will benefit from it.
That same day, I came to vior thread and consulted with BC and other members about the source and many of them rejected the idea because of clones. Since them you have been bashing this coin and asking for the source, you even gave the account a bad feedback because it was closed source.
Why giveup now? There are people here who want to help you make it succeed. And isn't the international calling feature unique and valuable? Why continue with the trouble? Bassguitarman didn't threaten me it was rakesh1_90 But there is value in this if the concept you created can be taken to a real mass-market product. There are ways that you can still profit from this in a good way, even if you don't want to work on it. You should open your mind a bit to that, all this work you have put in shouldn't go down the drain, it can help a lot of people to talk anonymously for one!!! EDIT: yes I remember rakesh, same kind of psycho as bassguitarman but a bit crazier. +1 We believe in viorcoin all the way maybe we should change the name to voipcoin and get a new license this cant be over this coin was going to be worth atleast 1$ !!!!!!!!! I agree, the basic idea & tech of this coin is very solid, so change the name and anything else that's causing problems and move on. Take all the attention from bass & SuperNET as a vote of confidence in the direction Vior has taken. Those guys don't bother trolling coins that don't offer effective competition for scarce investor $$ in a crowded market. Vior was (and still is) a good investment opportunity, just need the community to show some 'love' to the dev. |
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Great. Your very expensive hobby (the cost of your coins is extremely high) makes you happy... that's what hobbies are supposed to do. Skying in Colorado does that for many. Parachuting for others. But, as a matter of fact, you are a very serious problem for this project to go forward.
Let me explain it to you a bit: Imagine (not very hard) that 10 more people are like you and instead of having so much VIOR the only have a few tens of thousands. Follow? The resulting reality is that no one, quite literally, has any interest in this project. As you can see VIOR is already on the verge of delisting in Bittrex because, well, no one is selling. And, of course, no one is buying. In other words, there isn't a MARKET for it. Or, to be more precise, the only ones interested in buying more at lowerr prices are the same 10 people that already have 90% of it -or more- and who, also, are the only sellers at an unreasonably higher price, therefore producing a gap so big that the (non-existant) market has de facto disappeared. As a consequence, inevitably, the coin will be delisted and VIOR will be very, very soon a pale memory and yet another abandoned project. Catch my drift yet?
Now, why is that the situation? It's very simple: The crypto community is NOT at all interested nin VIOR. They are the ones fully aware of any and all coin projects and they are simply oblivious to it so there will NOT be any support from them. At ANY price. They simply are not interested in investing or otherwise supporting a crypto project whose use case is becoming a telco a la Vonage... best case scenario. It's like selling bikinis, if you will, in the North Pole, ok?
Consequently, we arrive at the ONLY alternative: Widespread adoption. Or, to put it in perspective, being a competitor to other mainstream telcos and such as Vonage, Skype or Google and all the browsers and services that use message and voip free or semi-free.... If you believe that any iteration of VIOR, now or in a very distant future, has even the slimmest of chances in hell to be a player in that amazingly competitive -and unprofitable- world, well you need, in my opinion, to get your head examined. Is there, then any way out? Any possibility whatsoever for this project to go forward? well here's the good news: YES, I believe so. Why? Because it has some small but potentially valuable assets: A very nice logo is one. A very good working, staking wallet, is the second. On those alone, it is above 80% of all the rest of cryptos. So, in my opinion, the development should ease completely, or almost completely, on the "telco" side to concentrate on pure-crypto development. And, at the same time, in promoting, within the crypto community, just another copy/paste hackjob, yes, but with active, engaged development with commitment to become a contender for survival in the alt crypto space, with the "telco" side as simply a side for the very few interested. OK, crypto is full of hundreds of clones that somehow have managed to survive even without any use-case. VIOR can do that. It should look for other uses, like in online gambling, for instance, a HUGE market open to everyone. Create lotteries, people seem to love those -you can call it raffles-, I don't klnow, brainstorm ideas. It is a GOOD Pos COIN. iT IS A GOOD WALLET. iT HAS, FOR THOSE FEW INTERESTED, THE VOICE/VIDEO OVER iP, it has an active developer -who should remain not ever posting directly because he will sink it instantly-, it is a great logo and it is a very attractive price... if it finds it's market. It SHOULD do much better than it is doing even if nothing else of interest is developed.
But what it is clear as crystal is that the path followed until now, takes it it to 10 crazy nut big holders with no more spare money that, de facto, kill the project altogether. So no more looking for markets where there's nobody interested in buying. No more voice/video over Ip that no one wants. No more wrath rants by the dev. And, instead, more promoting the great staking wallet to the crypto community. That is the ONLY path to survival, in my opinion. And it has to be taken pronto, before delisting/death delivers the final blow.
Otherwise, just prepare the funeral, because it is coming...
Very good post barabbas. I must agree with most of it as you are very right. There is not much market for VIOR recently, simply because the market is cornered at Bittrex. That is why I wanted to see new exchange to give some more room and check if there are interested traders. If the things stay as they are right now (one exchange, no trades), this will suffocate VIOR. Vior really needs to get hooked up with InstantDEX and SuperNET people. Vior definitely has a real world usage that *might* take-off. jl777 is a very smart guy, and very pragmatic. Trading Vior (equal to minutes of call time) on InstantDEX just makes sense. If Vior is in the first wave of coins willing to take jl777's advice and get traded on InstantDEX the future would be bright. Avoid centralized exchanges, & try and deal with jl777 direct. |
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Kim Dotcom & vTorrent, that would be HUGE! I love Kim, he's one guy capable of paying 10K bitcoins for a pizza TODAY!! |
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Very sad to see no activity on the new exchange
I agree, such a cool coin but not much love. Hope Slim survives long enough to be 'discovered' |
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Two cents of mine: 1. Remove ".mmapFileEnableIfSupported()" lines to avoid memory-mapping for persistence layer files. 2. MapDB crashes because of multithreading issues. Threading logic in Qora should be checked (I suppose it's buggy). 3. Even more compact version of BlockGenerator from SCOREX project, just 165 lines of code https://gist.github.com/kushti/574ae222f38d739477cfGreat feedback, awesome kushti! |
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Cool. NAS *might* live on It does seem obvious that NAS whales need to be involved if this is serious. |
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Fact is, the dev's activity has been regular as his profile shows, tho his communication has not. I believe that's what the community is after... regular communication. I know how hard RL can be, heck i have a wife and 2 kids to feed/raise and a labouring job that takes 12hrs out of my day 6 days a week. Add to that i host a couple of sites for friends as a hobby and provide a couple services for another coin at the same time which requires some maint on my behalf tho i still manage to take a few minutes out of my busy day to say "hi" to the community and my friends online.
Proactivity is healthy, silence is a killer.
+1 dev not posting updates is a coin killer. Even a "I've been too busy to do much, but I'm still here" keeps the market happy(ish). |
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Any progress to report? No news is good news .... ? |
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