This thread is like a honey pot for trust abusers LOL

Come on now guys let's have some sensible enforcement to prevent the reals scammers silencing whistle blowers.

Looks like so far the idea of giving scam tags to scammers is not too popular. haha

I think you are unable to grasp that nothing has really changed except I suspect Theymos ordered VOD and lauda to remove their trust abuse.  Which is of course the correct thing to do in this instance.  Nobody here believes Ognasty is a scammer, so him having scam tags is laughable.  

I am kind of upset they removed them (sorry OG no offence to you with that) because someone with his long term honest standing here that is  being cast as a scammer by these observable liars and scammers demonstrated SOMETHING had to be done. Sadly it seems that they realize they stepped over their abusive threshold with Theymos by fucking with OG and retracted them now. This does not help at all with the larger issue that DT is riddled with scammers, liars, and trust abusers like VOD and Lauda and their colluding ass kissing clingons.

It would be better had they still refused to remove their trust abuse and Theymos went  full Thanos on these observable dirt bags and blacklisted the entire swathes of observable dirty turds infesting DT. Let's have some observably honest and long term legends on there with no dirt in their past histories who we can TRUST.

Will this STOP those observable liars,and scammers on DT using red trust to silence those that whistle blow on them?

We will watch and see. We believe it will make 0 difference. They will continue to issue red trust for any reason they see fit, especially if you say something about them that is observably true and verifiable but they DO NOT WANT people to know about it.

It will remain a tool for observable liars and scammers to attempt to silence their critics and crush free speech.



Better to make an ORDER: prove that someone is a scammer, or bring a very STRONG case that they are a scammer OR GET BLACKLISTED from DT for giving out red trust to other people who should not have a scammer tag.

Perhaps a single temp red tag (3 days) can be applied for investigations to be done and case submitted for instances of serious doubt. It must be removed after this point if no clear evidence or strong case can not be provided. Perhaps caution under investigation tag for them.

If I were THEYMOS i would also make an ORDER that if clear evidence is presented to you that demonstrates clearly the person is a scammer or a STRONG case for them scamming can be presented then you MUST give them a red tag or describe why you will NOT or you get BLACKLISTED. No more double standards. Why should those that are clearly scammers be given a free pass to scam others ??

Grey areas can be put up for Theymos's own assessment but if you are on the wrong side of 3 disputes after he has studied the evidence then you will be BLACKLISTED. Obviously your judgement is not appropriate to be on DT.

This will bring them more in line and encourage others to play fairly with ALL members.

Here is a message the weak little bitch lfc bitcoin sent to his "friend" that lauda ordered him to remove from DT because that "friend" dared to stand up to VOD (another untrustworthy piece of shit trust abuser and doxxer of trustworthy established members ) - this is how scammers like lauda operate they find little bitches like LFC bitcoin to back their untrustworthy actions and games this broken DT system)

Proving he just does anything lauda tells him to because he is scared of lauda and his DT red trusting gang of abusers. He has been placed on DT as another of their pathetic puppets.

Relevant PM I received :


Laudas Feltching Clown or Laudas Favorite Cum guzzler?


Feel free to review this persons post history. The vast majority is pure garbage 1 liners that most people would get banned for.


1. most of it is 1 liner "guesses" about the price of bitcoin?
2. sports betting junk
3. Anything else is largely groundless opinions, and meme's?
4. Zero achievements of any note at all? he could have never joined and nothing would be ANY different at all?


How did this person gain so much merit? and how does such a shit poster deserve to be a merit source and DT member?

12 000 posts of mostly 1 liner junk that would get most people banned now.

Pre 2017 is almost nightmarish to the reader. Most look like spam or bot posts.

Now start to recognize this in a post where he attacks us first calling us childish names, and sending us very strange memes (we assumed his family member) but now it appears to be a person suffering from some kind of genetic problems??

This person thinks posting pictures of persons suffering from some genetic defects is largely funny??

LOL - like LFC with his autism and pics of his mother are not trollling? please answer clearly.

Why is referring to them as I deem appropriate trolling, if i can present observable instances of truth to explain if asked?  We notice many members refer to our friend cryptohunter as scunter, cryptocunt(er), etc. We did not notice him crying about trolling? and they could provide 0 evidence to explain their nicknames? that is more possibly trolling. Although not something I am sure he would worry about since it is a nit picking feeble attempt to avoid tackling the valueless content of their posts.

That has no bearing on the initial post.  Notildah may not be nutildah.  I mean it is hard to know which is worse. Is it best that he recognizes that selling his account is EVIL and that he advocates others get red trust for it, then goes on to sell his own in his mind to assist users scamming others?? but nobody was willing to pay 0.3btc for this bunch of shitposting?  or that he sold it and there is a new shitposter impersonating an old evil member according to him ready to scam us all ? Can you prove he IS nutildah? if so produce the conclusive proof?  if you can we will refer to it as nutildah the evil member in future.

Where is your council to the other members that change other members into childish nicknames? and they can not provide any observable instances to demonstrate the names are more suitable or that they insightful in anyway? can you please call out tman, pharmacist and all the others that start changing peoples user names as trolls? I will await you doing this right away in public.

Incorrect anway. I have already told you before that cleverly adapting a persons username to more accurately match with their observable behaviors is not trolling. BUT ONLY if you can provide evidence and observable instances to demonstrate this is true and holds up under scrutiny. You notice we have not given you a pet name. For now we have not observed you to trust abuse, or tell lies, or scam, or to sell your account. If we notice any observable instances of anything majorly untrustworthy then we may assign you a pet name.

For example we notice LFC_Bitcoin is a total shitposter. The VAST majority of his posts are 1 liners and speculations of the price of BTC with some other sports discussion.  I mean looking at his entire post history just sees a mass of 1 liner meaningless junk. We have not yet assigned him a more accurate name like some of the the others.  However,allowing members to believe this person has ever made posts that represent his inflated merit score is laughable. His entire post history is garbage. Go back through it all. There is NO value at all.

Please review his entire post history and pick out 5 original thought inspiring posts ...you will not they are all mostly 1 liner speculation junk, sports gambling drivel, and tales of him making cups of tea for his office bosses before he started a failing clothes business. He has achieved nothing for this community and is a waste of space. He is now a trust abuser, just because he does not like the truth about his meaningless and pointless past here being presented AFTER he attacks us with childish pics of his family and claims of autism ?

Now stop going off topic and just explain why that post was removed and none of the others were?  it was far more funny than the others and it only responded to what we consider to be false and biased opinions of the moderator.

We still await sensible explanation for the removal whilst the other posts of far less value in terms of humor remain.

LFC_Bitcoin please stop posting pictures of your mother on my thread.

@TheNewAnon135246

More trolling about trolling?

Please provide some evidence of the trolling. Oh wait you won't. Just like LFC Bitcoin will not present any evidence of his best original thought inspiring posts. They do not exist. Present the instances of trolling for us to see. Can you not read the initial post ? or just too stupid to understand that your post needs some observable instances to substantiate it or it should not be here? Now present it ? we will wait.

Yes we wait for their explanation of how the above post broke the rules or required deletion when the other posts there quoted remain.

EDIT - WE NOTICE LFC BITCOIN JUST LEFT SOME RED TRUST ABUSE ON OUR ACCOUNT. WELL DONE LFC BITCOIN.  You clearly like assisting us demonstrate DT and the merit systems is a joke.  Obviously does not like being called out as an observable fool in public.

No we leave it there to demonstrate more foxpoop meriting on political grounds for shit posts like yours.


POST 4 NOW DELETED

More one sided corrupt moderators here colluding with scum bags to help them hide their dirty pasts. Also trying to weaponize the deleted posts gamed metric for getting people banned.  These posts are not off topic, they are relevant (more than their posts) and still they get deleted.This forums slides more into an echo chamber daily.



So we noticed that the "shit posts so bad they are actually funny" thread had become another opportunity for shit posters and corrupt mods to flame honest whistle blowers and take the sides of observable liars and scammers and those with sickening double standards.




We notice the mod that likes to enable observable scammers and liars,probable extortionists,trust abusers , and sneaky greedy racist trolling sig spammers on to DT to positions of trust wants to jump in with his own false accusations and general shit posting. Having this type of person with access to ANY private information is quite worrying. Obviously colluding with the observably untrustworthy bunch on here.



We then quote a shit post that is so bad it is more than funny. I mean you can not actually get more funny that a person calling others evil and demanding they get red trust for selling their accounts that then goes and advertises for sale their own account can you?


now that post is indeed so shit it is funny, and a rebuttal to the false allegations and garbage hilarious and co spews out but can never provide any examples or evidence for . WAIT IT IS DELETED?

On what grounds if the others remain exactly??

Sorry to hear you are suffering again.

Read the OP. Try to work things out on your own. If you need assistance to enter the debate then ask your parents or career to help you form a sensible post.

More observable shit posters piling in with zero argument and zero reason to be here other than spamming their sigs.

I said no posting without evidence slobbering ass kisser.

Yogg the trust abuser and colluder with scammers and liars. Can you present the words that you are referring to? We can debate them on another thread. Do not derail this one.  If you maintain you are not a trust abuser, or observably colluding with scammers, liars and other trust abusers then please tell me so I can make another thread in rep for you to air your excuses there, whilst I demonstrate how untrustworthy you are.

Back on topic please. I want explanation of why my post was deleted. It is the funniest post ever quoted on that thread. Far more funny than the 2 others that I quoted there. One of which is just hilarious demonstrating he is not objective or impartial and will insist of proliferating the board with garbage he can not back up when called out. He just runs away. He has no examples of ANY false information that he can present that were contained with in our posts? but how is this possible if all of our posts are trolling and nonsense? 

Mods need to be able to explain post deletes in the full context of the thread. If not this is discrimination and deliberate silencing of observable events they do NOT want presented.

No, VOD is not a good member. He abuses the trust system to silence the truth being spoken.

I do not feel that his actions would warrant him being classed as a "good" member at all.

Why should honest members need to have a beer and pretend his actions were legitimate?  if he is a liar he must be called out as a liar. No nice beers and pretending it did not happen. This does not appear a 50/50 fault scenario. Where you can kiss and make up.

Liars, scammers, trust abusers, these are not good members. You would do well to start realizing that.

Ah an observable trust abuser comes to comment, an observable colluder with scammers and liars. Welcome yogg.

AND??  it does not matter if mods are one sided and collude with liars, scammers and members with clear double standards?

thanks for your insight.

Local rules - no opinions to be given without supporting examples. Bored of talking with idiots who spout false allegations and then run away when you ask for examples.



More one sided corrupt moderators here colluding with scum bags to help them hide their dirty pasts. Also trying to weaponize the deleted posts gamed metric for getting people banned.  These posts are not off topic, they are relevant (more than their posts) and still they get deleted.This forums slides more into an echo chamber daily.



So we noticed that the "shit posts so bad they are actually funny" thread had become another opportunity for shit posters and corrupt mods to flame honest whistle blowers and take the sides of observable liars and scammers and those with sickening double standards.




We notice the mod that likes to enable observable scammers and liars,probable extortionists,trust abusers , and sneaky greedy racist trolling sig spammers on to DT to positions of trust wants to jump in with his own false accusations and general shit posting. Having this type of person with access to ANY private information is quite worrying. Obviously colluding with the observably untrustworthy bunch on here.



We then quote a shit post that is so bad it is more than funny. I mean you can not actually get more funny that a person calling others evil and demanding they get red trust for selling their accounts that then goes and advertises for sale their own account can you?


now that post is indeed so shit it is funny, and a rebuttal to the false allegations and garbage hilarious and co spews out but can never provide any examples or evidence for . WAIT IT IS DELETED?

On what grounds if the others remain exactly??

which mod deleted it, who reported it, and let's see your reasoning on it.

People will stop at nothing, to silence the true legend speaking the truth, and fighting for a fair and equal environment for all members.

That detracts from nothing that I have just posted. Your post is also strange. Most people wearing tags now would not need wear them under the old system.

The trust and merit systems crush free speech and create an echo chamber. Merit is the carrot, Red trust is the stick.  It is foolish to dispute the implications.

EDIT - VOD seems to have run away like a coward? seems it can not present any evidence ?  where are the examples of our posts he does not believe?

If you had any experience as a trader there you would understand encouraging any member to join and use the service is a bait to get their btc zapped away. They close down wallets for years and create their own markets. Totally bogus, and any campaign manager taking them on is going to be ripe target for facilitating members getting scammed.

If they pull their act together and bring their wallets all back on line and allow people to withdraw their coins then perhaps....

We did not notice it before (perhaps it can be confirmed when you left the red) either way let us continue..

Can you present our words that you do not believe? we will in public debate them with you now?

Can you present your proof that we are an ALT of anyone?
Can you present your proof that even if we were an alt of anyone (we are not) then that clearly demonstrates we do not believe our own words?


Your respect is not require, and certainly not desired. I think it best not to be associated with you in anyway at all.

Please present proof of your accusations?  EVEN if we were  an alt account of anyone (we are not) You need proof to establish this. Then again you do not perhaps have the capacity to realize that some members (not us) may consider it the only safe way to speak the truth ?when people like yourself abuse the trust system?  So again your reasoning is flawed, and demonstrates the larger problem here for free speech. Thanks for assisting us.

Seems that you wish to red trust any member that presents truths you do not wish to be made public?

If that is not the case, please present now the parts of our posts you wish to dispute as false, those parts you do not believe?

Coward? would that not be more a suitable title for someone that takes advantage of perhaps vulnerable (age) groups ? Do you know any one like that? Perhaps we have overlooked individuals like that, and need to take a closer look, to examine in public what kind of deviant people we are dealing with here in positions of trust?

A limited mind could see it that way.

Perhaps they hope it will serve as a lesson to others not to replicate the mistake of mentioning observable events from their past? and discourage further incidents of speaking the truth.

Vod seems to have been accused of many terrible things , by several members. We will investigate those for him shortly in his own thread, and if they appear untrue under scrutiny, we will be glad to see him cleared of such nasty accusations.

The strategy has a success rate that can only be speculated on, but unless you view red trust as a reward, or endorsement, then you are perhaps capable of understanding that red trust has serious implications for free speech.

I do not think we should be terming this legitimate illustration of the very short comings of the trust system DRAMA. These are observable instances of failure and abuse that put the entire board at increased risk, and destroy the cohesion of the entire community. If all the energy fighting for  fair treatment and simple justice, was directed to positive projects to further awareness and push forward adoption of decentralized projects, we may all get what we hope for much sooner.

Nothing is more stupid than having a TRUST system where observable scammers on DT get to red trust honest members to prevent them whistle blowing on them, whilst their "alts and friends" get to back them up, or excuse it.

 The fact the trust system is now based upon a merit system where a tiny fraction of the board cycle it to each other. Those that give each other the most merits are the most trustworthy, stands to reason right?. What more can be said. A huge proportion of DT members are observably totally untrustworthy and observably sneaky and greedy when it comes to financial matters. Nobody can even deny it? they just claim the truth does not interest them, don't want to get involved (only too eager to get involved in everyone else business) and when pushed to comment they say that: it is good when innocent people get red trust, because it makes people more aware.

The double standards is quite fun to point out, but highly damaging to new members.

It is not enjoyable to watch the board being taken over by an observably shady bunch and the resulting "drama" of all those innocent persons fighting for fair treatment. Observable double standards will end up crushing this entire community. Makes the entire environment look shady and manipulated. You only need a newbie to see evidence of a DT members scamming,  lying, implicated in a serious extortion attempt or punishing people for things they have done themselves and that's it, they will assume the entire board is shady. Rightly so.

EDIT - since making the above post it looks like the user VOD has given me additional red trust?  I think this demonstrates clearly more attempts at silencing anyone that mentions observable events this group of untrustworthy individuals wants to remain hidden. This is a fantastic trust system. Works brilliantly for scammers and liars.
 

This is the best you can provide after the generous extension I gave you?

Incorrect as usual. These name alterations are more befitting to the imbeciles that I award them to.  Which names would you like to debate are not fitting to the individual. Is it trolling to call a smarmy sneaky trolling racist sock puppet sig spammer the smarmacist?  I think not. It is a clever adaptation to inform the reader this is a smarmy, sneaky dirt bag.

The smarmacists above posts serves to refute your statement. It is incorrect (he has been challenged many times to provide observable instances of trolling he can not. His claims are false, his assumptions are groundless , they are net negative trash.

Bring his best original thought inspiring post here for me to pull to laugh at.  Bring your own whilst your are at it.

Cryptomanurebrainlessboss again is a work of genius. Sums the sig spamming ass kissing shit for brains boss of nobody fool up perfectly.  Most things he claims about merit and trust are observably incorrect and dumb driven by the desire to fill up his merits to spam his sig in a larger format.

Snitchmoon again a simple and informative title. Suchmoron again observably brilliant (not him) she is brilliant at debunking her own arguments I guess.

Notildah - again excellent and informative.

Moronbozo - no explanation required.

We create self moderated threads to keep the real idiots and trolls away like yourself. Be grateful we allowed you some thread time here.

We will delete your junk now since we feel you came with nothing after being given plenty of time to find some real evidence. We leave your quotes there though inside our own splendid posts.

You do not really care about any of that do you mikeywith?  else you would be upholding your strict standards equally to all members?

Is an observable liar and scammer trustworthy? NO.  But we do not witness you doing anything about it other than telling people to stop going on about it all and just let it slide under the carpet. Stop fighting them you say. Just let them get away with it. You seem to only stand up to people you perceive to have less power than you. That is weak.

What about when you said if anyone had advertised their account for sale they would be red tagged. Then you went back on it, and did not tag them when evidence was presented. This person even said in 2014 account sales are EVIL and that they are deliberately enabling scammers to scam. Then decided to sell their own account in 2016 not giving one shit about that.  This person is far worse that the person you are arguing with now. Double standards.

This time limit bullshit does not stand. If you are untrustworthy you are untrustworthy. By his own admission no less. I say admission he was demanding others were EVIL for doing the same as he went and done. What do you make of that??

Start letting us witness some of your "words" in "actions" because as yet you are appearing almost untrustworthy. If we can not believe you will take the actions you are advocating then why should we believe anything that you say?

You want to appear honest and just. However, we can observe those are just words. Your actions do not follow that which you state.

Think on this and make some changes. I understand you are afraid of some other DT and merit source gang members but you need not be. Their time is coming to an end.