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941  Other / Off-topic / Re: DPR is a hero! on: October 07, 2013, 12:46:31 PM
Since my original reply to this was deleted by some alleged moderator, I'll post another.

Apparently, it is not permitted to disagree that a guy who contracts hits on people for cutting into his profits is the hero of the universe, even when the OP of the thread is an insult to the character of anyone who doesn't worship this guy.

I guess that's the libertarian ideal.  Freedom for all, until someone disagrees with you.
942  Other / Off-topic / Re: DPR is a hero! on: October 07, 2013, 11:25:56 AM
DPR actually opposed legalizing drugs, because that would mean the horrors of regulation and taxation.

Quote from: DPR
If prohibition is lifted, and the drug industry is placed under the yoke of the state, then we won in a small way, but lost in a big way. Right now, drugs are ours. They aren’t tainted by the government. We the people control their manufacture, distribution and consumption. We should be looking to expand that control, taking back our power, no giving what is ours to the very people that have been our enemies all along.

It’s easy to justify though. Think of all the horrors the war on drugs has caused that will be gone, almost instantly. That pain could stop!

In other words, fuck all those people rotting in prison.  His personal political agenda is much more important.
943  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government? on: October 07, 2013, 10:46:22 AM
By the way, the feds did set up their own bitcoin address and moved the SR funds into there. They were apparently able to do that because they imaged the server and the coins were in hot wallet. They don't seem to have DPR's probably-gigantic cold wallet, and if he hid it well enough they never will.

Guess it depends on how eager DPR is to cut a deal.  Holding onto the proceeds of an illegal criminal enterprise, if they can prove it (which I don't know if they can) is the kind of thing that moves your sentence toward the maximum end of the sentencing range.  Considering that's life without parole in this case, he might have some incentive to deal.
944  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you see Silk Road's closure as a positive or negative? on: October 07, 2013, 10:41:02 AM
BTC

Looking to get a feel for the communty's perception on this one as it seems many people are divided.

I see the prosecution of people who take out, or even try to take out hits on their "business" rivals and enemies (even when those are scum themselves) as a good thing.  So if DPR is guilty of trying to do that, I see his prosecution as generally a good thing.

As for the short-term, it's a PR black eye for Bitcoin to be associated with these kinds of shenanigans, although just like cash, people will always do illegal things with it. . .and automobiles, and cell phones, and computers, and all sorts of things that are otherwise good.

In the long term, who cares?  It's not going to have much of an impact.  I predict that the successful model for an Internet black market is closer to BitTorrent than Napster, and SR was the Napster of such enterprises.  Way out of line, way illegal, and way prosecutable.  Plus you had a dude at the top who took out $80 million as his cut of the illegal business.  Hard for him to portray himself as some kind of white knight.

Done at a peer to peer level, there is no "Dread Pirate Roberts" to bust, and everyone takes responsibility for their own actions.
945  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should miners collude to steal funds from wallet confiscated by US government? on: October 07, 2013, 10:36:18 AM
I doubt most people who voted Yes meant the mining pool ops should steal the coins into their own pockets. Obviously few people would get behind that. The idea would of course be to make the funds immovable, effectively the exact same as stealing the funds and distributing them to every bitcoin holder in proportion to how many they now hold. The money goes permanently out of circulation and everyone's bitcoins become that much more valuable since they are that much more scarce.

Actually, more like everyone's Bitcoins become worthless at the whim of an oligarchy.  As soon as the Gang of Four or whoever decide they don't like you, *poof* your Bitcoins are gone.

Never mind that the whole "stealing from the FBI" idea is just insanely stupid for practical reasons so obvious they need not be outlined.
946  Economy / Gambling / Re: CoinRoyale, First Mobile Bitcoin Casino: Free BTC to Play ProvablyFair Blackjack on: October 07, 2013, 09:41:44 AM
Thanks for the bonus.

Playability issue here.  As you can see, when I split 22 against a dealer 2, I get this screen.  First, I got 29 for my first hand, but couldn't see the other one.  After doubling that, and hitting 16, my other hand is completely invisible so I have no way of deciding what to do next.



ETA:  I note that in the posting, I can actually see whatever I have is a 12, but that isn't easy to make out on the phone.  I also don't know whether it's a pair, though, so I don't know whether to split again (66 would also be a split).

Also, I made a microdeposit of .0009, and that never showed up.  I suspect it's a minimum deposit thing, which you should warn about, as when I made a larger deposit of .002, that did show up.
947  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin - The Modern Bitcoin Casino! ★☆★ [FREE 10 mBTC][Provably Fair] on: October 07, 2013, 08:45:04 AM
darkmule for new account signup bonus.  Thanks.
948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US government should start a Strategic Bitcoin Reserve with Seized Coins on: October 07, 2013, 08:09:14 AM
*shudder*

I think the last thing any of us want is for there to be an actual incentive to encourage the government to steal people's BTC.  They already do that enough with our fiat, cars, houses, etc.
949  Economy / Gambling / Re: CoinRoyale, First Mobile Bitcoin Casino: Free BTC to Play ProvablyFair Blackjack on: October 07, 2013, 07:25:46 AM
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950  Other / Off-topic / Re: Was the Silk Road Arrest Tor-Related on: October 07, 2013, 06:27:00 AM
So far, is there any evidence indicating that the Silk Road arrest was caused from a flaw/vulnerability in the Tor protocol, or was it pure email/pseudonym tracking & behavioral analysis? Because the latter seems rather dubious IMO. I mean how would "um, he liked the silk road youtube videos so he must be the admin" hold up in court?

There's no direct evidence they got any evidence by compromising TOR, and it is entirely plausible they got DPR just through some elementary blunders he made.  I wouldn't rule out a compromise, though.  There is a legal principle known as "parallel construction," in which investigators obtain evidence, perhaps illegally, then realize that the evidence was illegally obtained and won't be admitted, so they go about trying to find another source for the same information which is not illegal.  In fact, the NSA has advised the DEA and other agencies to do exactly this.

Before I'm accused of [citation needed], here's the source.

Incidentally, parallel construction is itself illegal and evidence gained or manufactured by such a method would also not be admissible under the "fruit of the poisoned tree" doctrine.  However, it is not unlawful to use parallel construction for other purposes, such as concealing the identity of a confidential source, or some technological capability, so long as the original evidence was not illegal to obtain.  However, the use of such prosecutorial tactics should presumptively be suspicious.  IMO.
951  Economy / Gambling / Re: Silk road is down... Gambling guys next? on: October 07, 2013, 06:21:48 AM
Actually it is illegal, some people here need a lawyer. If you are running a gambling site in the USA think of leaving the country and change the server location.

There's nothing explicitly outlawing "Bitcoin gambling."  However, most states have laws against running a gambling operation and taking a rake.  These generally consider gambling to be for "anything of value," and anyone arguing Bitcoin doesn't have any value is not only FOS, but not going to be very convincing to a jury.  After all, why would anyone take a cut of something with no value?

The feds have maintained the position that the Wire Act prohibits Internet gambling operations (gambling operations defined as above), but it is far from certain this is actually true.  In fact, the recent Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA), the cause of "Black Friday," only prohibits bank transactions connected to "unlawful gambling" operations.  So Bitcoin-only sites don't have to worry about that particular law's banking prohibitions.

So while there's no clear federal law prohibiting online gambling per se, people like Calvin Ayres (Bodog) are fugitives at present as a result of federal claims that there are.  On top of that, individual states do have much more clear laws prohibiting "unlawful gambling."  If a site is knowingly accepting visitors from a state (or perhaps is merely being willfully blind), that state can and perhaps will exercise jurisdiction under its long-arm statute, as that constitutes "doing business" in the state.

Anyone who is going zip-a-dee-doo-dah and just assuming nothing will ever happen is burying his head in the sand.
952  Economy / Gambling / Re: Silk road is down... Gambling guys next? on: October 07, 2013, 05:46:30 AM
You own a gambling site and you are spreading fud?  Huh
wtf?

You'd rather bury your head in the sand and then act shocked when the obvious happens?
953  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SilkRoad domain Seized? on: October 02, 2013, 07:37:45 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_mass_surveillance_disclosures


Quote
The Special Operations Division (SOD) of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration advises DEA agents to practice parallel construction when creating criminal cases against Americans that are actually based on NSA warrantless surveillance.[3]

I was thinking exactly this.  It could be they actually got their information from a network compromise they don't want widely known, so instead, they went looking for plausible alternate sources of the same information, and completed their evidence collection by traditional means.  It's not a certainty by any means, but certainly not total tinfoil and worth considering.
954  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Video Casino -- New site design is live! [UPDATED 9/02/2013] on: September 29, 2013, 12:51:27 AM
Yes, it's actually the serious oldskool element of the video poker that I think is best about this site.  It feels like actually playing a real classic full-pay jacks or better machine.
955  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Video Casino -- New site design is live! [UPDATED 9/02/2013] on: September 25, 2013, 01:18:25 AM
our video poker is now +EV thanks to the progressive jackpot.

is this something like the concept of offering a "loss leader"?

Not quite, since the progressive jackpot doesn't really cost the site anything directly (other than putting the money slowly into a progressive rather than pocketing it).  But casinos generally love them because it allows them to offer a giant jackpot without the casino ever having to take a big hit.  And without ever losing anything, they get the excitement of spreading a game where the odds favor the players.  It's just subsidized by the people who play when the game is -EV.
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957  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: September 23, 2013, 08:25:09 PM
Loan sharking is tough work... and not very rewarding...

Loan sharking only works when you have a pair of legs you can get to and either can break them yourself or get someone else to break them.
958  Economy / Securities / Re: Open Discussion of Just-Dice on: September 23, 2013, 08:22:30 PM
11K is certainly at least interesting.  For that kind of money, even a Vegas casino would be reviewing all their security cameras and bringing in the pros.  It's not absurdly out of variance, and it would be absurd, actually, if there weren't streaks like this.  IIRC, Satoshi Dice operated in the red for months at a time.

But $1,460,000+ is some serious scratch regardless.
959  Economy / Gambling / Re: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts on: September 23, 2013, 04:13:52 AM
Like Freemo said up there the info is out there, you have access to it, it will up to a coder if they want to do anything with it, as we don't have any user-api or something.  Although that would be cool.

The only problem with an open API for a poker site is that it makes it a lot easier for bad guys to write malware.  Bots are one thing, but so are programs to make collusion software really easy, i.e. rather than having to exchange it on some third-party chat program, they can actually write their own client to display each other's hole cards in real time.

Not sure how much of an issue this is, as it only makes more convenient what is already entirely possible to do without too much difficulty, i.e. sharing hole cards, and I frankly haven't seen many bots (yet) worth being concerned with outside of a few limited sets of circumstances.
960  Economy / Securities / Re: Open Investigation into Just-Dice/Dooglus on: September 21, 2013, 07:01:13 PM
Of all the idiocy I have ever seen on this site, this takes the cake.
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