so im going to go ahead and put this out there so that as many people know about it as possible before round 2.
escrow for round 2 will work differently from round 1
Instead of using a spreadsheet to keep up with everything, im actually just going to use the built in functionality of the accounting ledger that is already provided for us by the bitcoin blockchain. There are many advantages. I will not have to do the same work twice for no reason. Also it elimiates the possibility for human error. what this will mean is that if you participate in round 2 you MUST BE ABLE TO SIGN a message with one of the addresses that you send from.
now don't freak out. Its very simple and for anyone who doesn't know how to do this I will personally walk you through every step and teach you how.
im going to be posting this several times to make sure that everyone sees it because the one big drawback to this is that if you send from an exchange or an address that you dont control than you will be donating your coins to me. granted this is a significant drawback but weighed against the advantages I think its worth it.
I suppose that means that is not possibile to send coins from an exchange directly as it was in the 1st stage?  that's correct F**k NO good for me!  I don't use bitcoin at all I just needed it to buy some NXT and some other alt coins as nobody wants to accept FIAT therefore I had to open an account on an exchange site and send from there. |
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so im going to go ahead and put this out there so that as many people know about it as possible before round 2.
escrow for round 2 will work differently from round 1
Instead of using a spreadsheet to keep up with everything, im actually just going to use the built in functionality of the accounting ledger that is already provided for us by the bitcoin blockchain. There are many advantages. I will not have to do the same work twice for no reason. Also it elimiates the possibility for human error. what this will mean is that if you participate in round 2 you MUST BE ABLE TO SIGN a message with one of the addresses that you send from.
now don't freak out. Its very simple and for anyone who doesn't know how to do this I will personally walk you through every step and teach you how.
im going to be posting this several times to make sure that everyone sees it because the one big drawback to this is that if you send from an exchange or an address that you dont control than you will be donating your coins to me. granted this is a significant drawback but weighed against the advantages I think its worth it.
I suppose that means that is not possibile to send coins from an exchange directly as it was in the 1st stage? |
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Unfortunately I'm not a programmer and may you laugh me, but what if we would write another coin (little brother of NEM), which would only be possible to mine/forge by trading and/or holding NEM? The more you hold, the more you mine. Also if you sell or buy some NEM you're earning some of the little brother. NEM should get an unbelievable thrust through and it would people even more animate to use this Movement. More I would bet some little stakes for Social Media, especially pages which are specialized for enlightening peepz and tell them about our current monetary system . 100 000 NEM for example for https://www.facebook.com/Killuminati.for.Wakeup?fref=ts when posting about us. This may would bring a big thrust of new people interested to Cryptocurrency because 372 000 sociocritical people would read about it. Tell me what you think of it  It is very nice idea and it is doable via creating asset/ coin on top of the asset exchange. That would be a really huge thing i guess and I was glad to see that the Community seems to like this idea, too. May let us keep in mind There are a lot of things we can do in marketing, and stabilizing the coin. For example we should create a wallet for downloading, like the Bitcoinwallet. Not like NXT in the browser. Personally I feel a lot more comfortable and easier to use by having it on my PC. But it should be completely redesigned and intuitive to use, not another clone of a all these out there. It was feature a scam coin advertised a short time ago, but in the end it was just a trojan horse, which is good for us, so we could still be the first to build this client and add with it. And for sure there already was this suggestion, but if we would be able to build up an exchange or possibility where people could buy their NEM directly with Euro/Dollar/etc., it would possible be the greatest thing that could happen to us. Not only that it would be a lot more easier especially for rookies to start getting their first coins, also it would give our community an important feature to stand alone and independent from the Bitcoinrate. I would love to do this all, I'm not bad in marketing and selling products but unfortunately like I said, I'm not a programmer :/ At this moment it's all about collecting some suggestions and may getting some weird ideas together to see what's implementable and what's not There will be probably a usable GUI wallet launched together with the coin. Or at least there was talk about that from the devs if I remember correctly, so there's no need to worry about that  . Also we're currently in the early phases of creating a fiat to NEM exchange. Nothing is certain, but just to let you know that we're working on these things. Hello. Anyone who is included or will be included into development of NEM <--> FIAT. exchange should check this interesting thread. Is a project about decentralized BTC <--> FIAT exchange. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=462236.0;topicseenMaybe the ideas exposed there could be helpful for the NEM community and maybe NEM developers can join together with developers of that project to help each other in the exchange development. |
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Hello I have sent ฿0.30270 to Anon136
for escrow for stage 1
TX ID: e760828e04cf0b6c825069e032e91995d265af3e0f16e5f1dcb7f5c8934aa2d0
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cleaning kitchen. ill get caught up on all of the orders and post them all here as soon as im done.
You are always in the kitchen i think is because of food  haha, I thought the same thing.  "Cleaning" has a different meaning when is related to the kitchen |
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cleaning kitchen. ill get caught up on all of the orders and post them all here as soon as im done.
You are always in the kitchen i think is because of food Who cleans the toilet?! Sorry for bothering you i have sent PM yesterday but almost 24 passed without response. I had one question and that is if the amount can be sent once to you and if you can parially release it for example 60% in stage 1 and 40% stage 2? Thanks for your time. |
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Where is Anon136? why he does not answer to PM?!  @Anon136: Where are you? Can we send you now for 1st and 2nd stage? LOL. Anon is chilling in Hawai His life is easy but our is not! The clock is ticking and he does not answer! NO GOOD! Anon136 watch for tsunamis there are volcanos on hawai! Anon has a family I'm quite sure these need attention, too, if he doesn't want to be killed. Patience, I'm sure he will be back. I have patience! I have sent him PM yesterday. I hope he is back before time expires. |
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Where is Anon136? why he does not answer to PM?! @Anon136: Where are you? Can we send you now for 1st and 2nd stage? LOL. Anon is chilling in Hawai His life is easy but our is not! The clock is ticking and he does not answer! NO GOOD! Anon136 watch for tsunamis there are volcanos on hawai! |
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Where is Anon136? why he does not answer to PM?! @Anon136: Where are you? Can we send you now for 1st and 2nd stage? |
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As a c# programmer, I would like to help but although I'm familiar with java, lack the experience to be an efficient java programmer (best tools, practices, java ecosystem familiarity, etc. I also lack the proper free time to contribute in a proper way (aka core developer) anyways, I'm not writing this to whine but to suggest that the development team organize a list of tasks that can be handled to others people like me or freigeist (I wanna help).
Yes that would be really nice but the problems with the tasks could be that the developer could require more time to describe and delegate the task then to solve it by themself.  |
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UP did u check http://cowobo.org coders without borders? They seem to have the same values of NEM . Please look it up if you have time. Nice page! Thanks for the link. |
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Needs to be a big countdown clock on the site for when it launches.. Set up email alerts for the day before launch.. People see the timer sign up for alert check out the forum and get facinAted by the community then they eegerly await the luanch get the alert so they dont miss it and then buy on luanch! Job done.. You can market the luanch of nem rather then just nem.. Make the luanch a really big thing!
+1 This could be maybe done on the www.ournem.com webpage but not before when the precise development timeline is defined. i am not sure how to setup a timer there. NEM launch will be big anyway. But it may take quite sometimes for us to get there. At this point, I am still soliciting good coders to make other services around NEM, moreover if you can contribute to the core development, contact me or Jaguar. I'm not sure if i have enough qualification to contribute the the core development as I suppose a good understanding of cryptography is required and also the free time that i have is limited I'm afraid i would not be able to keep up with the deadlines :-/ Anyway can you tell more about the services around NEM? You already planned some services around NEM to be ready and launched when NEM goes online? Are you seeking someone to implement the "your" the dev team ideas? Related to timer i can check this days how to set up a timer on the page so in future when will be needed this can be done easily. |
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Needs to be a big countdown clock on the site for when it launches.. Set up email alerts for the day before launch.. People see the timer sign up for alert check out the forum and get facinAted by the community then they eegerly await the luanch get the alert so they dont miss it and then buy on luanch! Job done.. You can market the luanch of nem rather then just nem.. Make the luanch a really big thing!
+1 This could be maybe done on the www.ournem.com webpage but not before when the precise development timeline is defined. |
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Ma bih ja, ali morao bih i u to.uvjeriti pekaru, mehaničara i pedikera :-)
Do tada još uvijek trebam fiat.
Ako netko ima iskustva sa poreznom, moze i na pp, oduziti cu se za koristan savjet. Do sada imam proturječne informacije, zanima me da li netko ima iskustva iz prakse.
Istina! Dugotrajan je to proces. Što više ljudi bude osviješteno o porijeklu novca i kad shvate kako on funkcionira sve će više njih početi s vremenom prihvaćati bitcoin i ostale slične valute kao sredstvo plaćanja. Zato pričajte svakome i uputite svakoga u to što vi znate. Evo za svakog koga zanima više neka si tu pogleda: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=193376.0 |
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Dragi kolege,
imate li iskustva sa porezom na sepa withdrawale iz EU, par tisuća $ mjesečno?
čitam svašta i ne mogu doći do konačnog zaključka da li je to oporezivo ili ne?
Pozdrav!
Običnim građanima koji nemaju vezu u politici ili sa bandom na vlasti je sve oporezivo tako i to! Ukupno plaćamo 90% poreza na sva moguća sranja i budalaštine koje se netko iz vlasti sjeti naplatiti i tako se i na sva sredstva koja dolaze na devizni račun se sigurnoću mora platiti porez. Koliko poreza ovisi o kojoj se količini novca radi ili u kojoj se stranci ili upravi koje firme se nalaziš!  Ako si na pravom mjestu u pravo vrijeme moguce ja da ono što bi trabo platiti nećeš platiti tj da ćeš platiti manje ili ništa Ako ne želite plaćati poreze prestanite korisiti FIAT novac. |
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I also don't like to see people giving away their Nxt for nothing, which at this time, is what they have done. They have given it away for the promise of something in the future. When I posted "interested", I didn't know that Nem was going to start collecting Nxt and Btc. I think this collection is unethical, because I can't see anything worthy of a dev fund.
Hello. It seems you have double standards! This can also be translated to: I also don't like to see people giving away their BTC for nothing, which at this time, is what they have done. They have given it away for the promise of something in the future.
"they" = NXT investors at that time before end of Novmeber At that time there was only a promise from the developer aka "BCNext"! Do you consider NXT IPO at that time unethical too? Anyway thanks for you criticism is good to open a debate over technical issues like POI and coin security if you have any concerns abut his. I hope the developers will be more than happy to answer your questions and to open debate about this issues as in this way more ideas and solutions to the implementation will arise and possible points of weakness will be removed. |
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The way nxt marketed themselves as the first second generation coin was very effective. WE need something similar, we need to be the first something.
how about: NEM The Ultimate Cryptocurrency Revolution
or : NEM the final cryptocurrency evolution
I know its a bold claim but maybe we can pull it off.
I would not use the words "ultimate" neither "final" as we don't know what future will bring us. This words would suggest that there won't be any new or any better coin in the future. I thing that we are not at the end of cryptocurrency evolution i think this is just the beginning. As the name says "NEM" New Economy Movement this mens this is NEW concept of wider distribution 1st POI/PON/POS coin Beginning of new financial (re)volution Actually the words "New Economy Movement" summarizes all that already. Features of NEM, services built around NEM or on top of NEM and a wide fair distribution will be the best marketing. |
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The problem with guns is that they are easy to use and the same time dangerous as also kids can use them. And recently as you can see there were some slaughters made by kids i some schools in US and europe. It would be better for community to learn martial arts this way you will get community of physically healthy and physically stable mature non violent people. I would also tell that the biggest criminals are not this poor few mentally challenged that are waving with guns but the others that are wearing nice suites and ties You're a special kind of idiot if you give your kid a weapon or keep it in reach of a child. You don't give a child knifes and sharp scissors to play with either, I don't see why a responsible adult couldn't have a gun though. If you give me a gun, I'm pretty sure no accidents will happen and no child will come near it. How do you explain those slaughters in Europe by the way? Guns are banned in most European countries. And good luck with those martial arts when you need to fight against a bullet, unless your name is Neo, you'll probably lose it. We can agree on that last thing though. How you know I'm an idiot if you don't know even if i have kids or if i have guns in my house. All kids are the same are curious and likes to play and impersonate their parents or what they see on TV. If they find a gun they will play with it because they will not know the consequences. Is like it happens every end of year with the firecracker kids likes the sounds and color but then is not enough and usually the try to make a bigger explosion! At the end we read in newspapers how many of them suffered finger or fist mutilation because of their irresponsible game. But i don't blame the kids as they have learned a lesson from their personal experience and stupidity but this facts speaks more about their parents. If the guns are banned it does not mean that the are not available. Usually in EU there is a much more strict regulation about guns and is not easy to get one legally without all papers (permits). If i recall this slaughters in EU happened in countries where is legal to have a gun at home if you have all the papers permits and I doubt that the kids in Germany and Finland went to buy the guns on the black market. |
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Guns are banned where I live, they don't cost that much, any criminal can afford them.  If you ban guns, you only end up with criminals having them and citizens who can't defend themselves. And you are against guns but it is ok to electrocute someone or send a bunch of guard dogs after them? I have dogs but to be honest I wouldn't want them to risk their life if I catch an armed thief in the house. I would prefer to shoot him instead of my dogs attacking him and maybe get killed, their life is more precious to me than anything else. But that aside, immobilize someone with a shot in the leg is probably more human than electrocute someone or get him shredded by dogs, piranhas, alligators,... Is nice if the guns are banned but this should be done according of the environment. I'm against guns but if environment is hostile then guns are required. The problem with guns is that they are easy to use and the same time dangerous as also kids can use them. And recently as you can see there were some slaughters made by kids i some schools in US and europe. It would be better for community to learn martial arts this way you will get community of physically healthy and physically stable mature non violent people. I would also tell that the biggest criminals are not this poor few mentally challenged that are waving with guns but the others that are wearing nice suites and ties |
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